XFactor is no cheap, it actually balance the game pretty well. Even if you lose 2 characters, you still have a chance to win if you got XFactor. If MvC3 was like MvC2, your chances on winning with low tier characters would almost disappear.
We need more "Phoenix is cheap" comments. I got this whole crate of cheese and it goes perfectly with the whine. And some people seem to have an endless supply when it comes to Phoenix. Go Jean! Show them how you serve a can of whoop ass with extra salt!
I like to think of the XFactor like the full Ultra meter on SSFIV. When you opponent has the ultra meter filled, you know every single mistake you make, might cause you to lose the game.
Phoenix isn't cheap. Not since vanilla. A lot of effort to make her go dark, a lot of unused damage potential in the form of saving bar and a lot of tech against her. The only difference between her and so many other characters (Oh say... Zero?) is that Dark Phoenix gets the job done faster. There's no difference in a 1 combo KO except for how long it takes.
Of course not. Wesker and Vergil needs balance, but that doesn't make it cheap. Phoenix is cheap: she has teleports that are extremely fast, Some dirty entrance mixups, and etc. Wesker is a great battery character, but that doesn't make it cheap. Skrull on Lv3 XFactor is extremely overpowered, and people don't whine about it. I think Capcom should remove the glasses thing, and we're alright.
For those who bitch about Phoenix still being OP, just learn ways to avoid her getting dark i.e. teleport mix-ups, command/air throws, constant pressure etc. Try using snapbacks at the start of the match too, i mean I've fought only a few Phoenix teams off/online, and yes i too get annoyed but compared to vanilla, still isn't that all now. Respect though to FilipinoChamp for his team and combos, I've learnt a fair bit from watching him but i prefer his Dormammu instead
anyone who doesnt believe phoenix is he most broken thing the series has ever seen needs to watch that first fight over and over. i dont care how strong mag or sent was in MVC2, that is rediculous
X-Factor is not "cheap". Cheap is when a character has massive, unbalanced advantages over other characters. Every character has an X-Factor; it's just how you use it. However, they should never have made Wesker, Magneto and Vergil so powerful in Level 3 X-Factor. Hsien-Ko, Chris, Rocket Raccoon and other low-tier characters should have received much better speed and damage boosts in Level 3 X-Factor. As for Dark Phoenix, she's toast without X-Factor.
All four of them are cheap and should'nt even be in the game but pheonix. I mean c'mon she basically almost has two life's,she can teleport all over the place and easily mix you up the dark mode is just insane,her burn into flame's super beat's everyone's,she can fly,when in dark mode her standing jab is INSANELY good,and when you have 5 bar's and she is not dark yet any damage she get's is pretty much extra and free.
Suboptimal? Looks at his team. Phoenix on point protected by those (cheap) missiles will be almost impossible to guard against. Phoenix is cheap when shes dark and when shes regular. I didn't realize it till i playyed a good mag and phoenix that the teams champ uses are so overpowered and easy . Especially with dorm. Usually when your team is as top tier as champs it doesnt matter which way you organize them.
not really, since her main tool of cheapness was nerfed (being able to throw a ot of projectiles in the air) and when you do a team aerial combo you have the possibility of taking a meter away from your oponent it takes a lot of skill to actually use phoenix like champ does and if you wanna look at it like a comback bitch, wesker level 4 xfactor or even strider ouroboros are more cheap than her porve that shes no longer that cheap, there are not than many phoenix players out there
Hate for people like fchamp to use phoenix. Unlike viscant he has a knowledge of both his other characters y be known as cheap with phoenix when u can win without her? Also fanatiqs one of my favorite players but once u see phoenix u pick vergil he iis undoubtedly cheaper, that coming from me and i hate vergil so much.
Umvc3 is lousy. I trid to conform and like it from mvc2. It ain't happening. Mvc2 is way better made. Trying to conform to a lazy-made game is a bitch. Just burnt the disc with leftover lawnmower fuel.
XFactor is no cheap, it actually balance the game pretty well. Even if you lose 2 characters, you still have a chance to win if you got XFactor. If MvC3 was like MvC2, your chances on winning with low tier characters would almost disappear.
Holy crap. FChamp's Pheonix is really good. I mean, it's cheap how she does a lot of damage but his mixups are crazy. Really Unique.
@Demoniq no, it's on the web, look for it
it just helps you block out the tournament distractions and makes you feel in the zone.
We need more "Phoenix is cheap" comments. I got this whole crate of cheese and it goes perfectly with the whine. And some people seem to have an endless supply when it comes to Phoenix. Go Jean! Show them how you serve a can of whoop ass with extra salt!
I like to think of the XFactor like the full Ultra meter on SSFIV. When you opponent has the ultra meter filled, you know every single mistake you make, might cause you to lose the game.
But what happens when the highest tiers use it? Is it still balanced?
I think so. That forces your enemy to try his best not to do any mistakes.
i used to not like filippino champ back in vanilla but now that phoenix is not that cheap i´ve started to like how he plays and hes dorm team is sick
So your ok with being dark vergiled and weskered?
Couldn't agree more. Even in UMvC3 she received such very few buff, she has very little use and strong point, compare to the others in the cast.
LOOOL FILLIPINO CHAMP IS ON A MAD 1!!! LOOL
may i have an example of why you feel this way?
Phoenix isn't cheap. Not since vanilla. A lot of effort to make her go dark, a lot of unused damage potential in the form of saving bar and a lot of tech against her. The only difference between her and so many other characters (Oh say... Zero?) is that Dark Phoenix gets the job done faster. There's no difference in a 1 combo KO except for how long it takes.
7:37 " I AM THE DARK PHOENIX "
Of course not. Wesker and Vergil needs balance, but that doesn't make it cheap. Phoenix is cheap: she has teleports that are extremely fast, Some dirty entrance mixups, and etc. Wesker is a great battery character, but that doesn't make it cheap. Skrull on Lv3 XFactor is extremely overpowered, and people don't whine about it. I think Capcom should remove the glasses thing, and we're alright.
Man came so close.
6:34-7:37 PHOENIX TOOK AN ENTIRE TEAM BY HERSELF AND THATS WHY @ 7:37 " I AM THE DARK PHOENIX "
For those who bitch about Phoenix still being OP, just learn ways to avoid her getting dark i.e. teleport mix-ups, command/air throws, constant pressure etc. Try using snapbacks at the start of the match too, i mean I've fought only a few Phoenix teams off/online, and yes i too get annoyed but compared to vanilla, still isn't that all now.
Respect though to FilipinoChamp for his team and combos, I've learnt a fair bit from watching him but i prefer his Dormammu instead
anyone who doesnt believe phoenix is he most broken thing the series has ever seen needs to watch that first fight over and over. i dont care how strong mag or sent was in MVC2, that is rediculous
nice
4:55 got hit with the SHAM-WOW...lmfao
you do know the x factor time is diffrent for every characters depending on who did it right
I know, but they are both balancing features. Of course you can't compare MvC3 with SSFIV, because they are too different.
Damn, champs dark phoenix isn't scary. His phoenix in general is
Currently i think its cheap but it wouldnt be if they just reduced the time of lvl 2 and 3
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X-Factor is not "cheap". Cheap is when a character has massive, unbalanced advantages over other characters. Every character has an X-Factor; it's just how you use it. However, they should never have made Wesker, Magneto and Vergil so powerful in Level 3 X-Factor. Hsien-Ko, Chris, Rocket Raccoon and other low-tier characters should have received much better speed and damage boosts in Level 3 X-Factor. As for Dark Phoenix, she's toast without X-Factor.
All four of them are cheap and should'nt even be in the game but pheonix. I mean c'mon she basically almost has two life's,she can teleport all over the place and easily mix you up the dark mode is just insane,her burn into flame's super beat's everyone's,she can fly,when in dark mode her standing jab is INSANELY good,and when you have 5 bar's and she is not dark yet any damage she get's is pretty much extra and free.
i never understood the whole shades indoors things especially while playing
Suboptimal? Looks at his team. Phoenix on point protected by those (cheap) missiles will be almost impossible to guard against. Phoenix is cheap when shes dark and when shes regular. I didn't realize it till i playyed a good mag and phoenix that the teams champ uses are so overpowered and easy . Especially with dorm. Usually when your team is as top tier as champs it doesnt matter which way you organize them.
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i like seeing phoenix winning people bitching about her now is just stupid when characters like zero exist
You mean like fishhook-less Dormammu?
Hsien-Ko needs much better speed and damage in her ordinary form.
Also bathsalts
Why thank you lad.
You're correct. I'm just saying yipes is giving him to much credit, Phoenix is very very cheap and even more so with xfactor. He's not so good
Gets hit with the shamwow
not really, since her main tool of cheapness was nerfed (being able to throw a ot of projectiles in the air) and when you do a team aerial combo you have the possibility of taking a meter away from your oponent it takes a lot of skill to actually use phoenix like champ does and if you wanna look at it like a comback bitch, wesker level 4 xfactor or even strider ouroboros are more cheap than her porve that shes no longer that cheap, there are not than many phoenix players out there
Dat raw jean grey though
Zero, Wesker, and Vergil are still cheaper.
this! @emocelot
That was free
Hate for people like fchamp to use phoenix. Unlike viscant he has a knowledge of both his other characters y be known as cheap with phoenix when u can win without her? Also fanatiqs one of my favorite players but once u see phoenix u pick vergil he iis undoubtedly cheaper, that coming from me and i hate vergil so much.
k phoenix player.
Phoenix is ridiculously cheap.
phoenix is still cheap
黑人快要打人了
Umvc3 is lousy. I trid to conform and like it from mvc2. It ain't happening. Mvc2 is way better made. Trying to conform to a lazy-made game is a bitch. Just burnt the disc with leftover lawnmower fuel.
And to yipes there no such thing as a good phoenix if these players are so good with her y not use her on point?
lies
@AhKillez No one cares