RED WINGS FALL SHORT - DETROIT'S PLAYOFF DREAMS DASHED - Winged Wheel Podcast - Apr. 14th, 2024
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- Опубліковано 26 чер 2024
- Heartbreak for Hockeytown. The Detroit Red Wings came so, so close to making the playoffs.
Tune in as we start by lamenting the past few nights (0:00) before giving our thoughts on how the Red Wings just barely missed the playoffs due to the Philadelphia Flyers pulling the goalie against the Washington Capitals, and also give an overview of the final standings in the Eastern Conference Wild Card postseason race (6:05).
We then cover Detroit's first dramatic win over the Montreal Canadiens, including J.T. Compher keeping them in it on another off night for Alex Lyon, Alex DeBrincat finally scoring from distance, Shayne Gostisbehere's insane leap to save the game, leading to Perron's great pass for Lucas Raymond's tying goal that set Detroit alight. Then, Lucas Raymond working with Dylan Larkin to finish the job, celebrating Patrick Kane style as Detroit's newest star saved the season again (15:00).
After that, Lalonde's squad's next game against Montreal, including Reimer's highs and lows, Moritz Seider, Daniel Sprong. and Joe Veleno scoring, drama as David Perron scored a miraculous late goal and John Tortorella pulling the goalie still afterwards, Kane's shootout winner for naught, and feelings on how the barely missed playoffs played out (27:45).
Next, we discuss Patrick Kane's comments and whether he's likely to be signed by Steve Yzerman for another stint with the Red Wings (51:00), and updates on Shai Buium, Simon Edvinsson, Sebastian Cossa, and the Grand Rapids Griffins (58:30).
Also, the NHL Draft Lottery (59:35), a look at the NHL playoff series (1:01:10), and lots more before we take your questions and comments during our Overtime segment (1:09:20) - enjoy!
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I've been a Wings fan for 39 years now. I feel zero hurt about this season. I'm so excited for next season. Detroit almost accidentally made the playoffs this season, we didn't trade away anything trying to make it. The sky is the freaking limit for Detroit. You guys feeling hurt or bad about this season are crazy people.🤣🤣🍻🍻
They just don't remember the pain of the 80s and 95 like we do😂
It's funny how the fans like us that have been fans for 30+ years are the ones calling it how it is - a success. While the casual hockey/ just started watching hockey 1-3 years ago fans are the ones complaining lol. They have no idea how good we are looking right now. Glad to see sensible fans out here.
Last time I went as nuts for a goal as I did for Raymond tying it against Montreal was Helm sending the Wings to the Finals in '09. That lasted about 24 hours lol. Sucks how the Wings went out but this was easily the most exciting season we're seen in at least a decade. A lot of moves to be made but without a doubt the ship is moving forward. This was my first full season listening to you guys, thanks for the great content LGRW!
That's right. Only moving forward. This season was a great success full of extremely fun story lines and moments. Can't wait until next season.
as a caps fan who wanted the wings to make the playoffs, I really can't decide how I feel about this whole situation
I am a proud Red Wings fan. I can finally watch meaningful hockey again. Next year will be a blast
We need a poll for who had the best celly this year.
-Rockstar Raymond with the air guitar
-Kane's showtime in Chicago
-Edvinsson's praise for the hockey gods pose
-Any last minute comeback Larkin celly
Can't forget the Griddy man! Come on!
It's Walmans Griddy
This season was wild!! You guys are the best. As much as this hurts, I'm here for all the off-season episodes and it won't be long until all of us as fans see this team back where they belong. LGRW
First time in 10 years or more that I felt this way.
ryan's pure white hoodie and brads pure black t-shirt is hilarious. no detail just pure void of white and black pixels
sad way to go out but man am I proud of this team, missing the playoffs gives the boys hunger for next year and we ARE making the playoffs next year. book it
The sweep by the Devils - The loss at the Joe to the Pens for the CUP - Sid no Nick hand shake …. was the worst of all time. This year was exactly where we are at. Progress but no where near ready . The future is bright. The WWP the best and getting better every year. Cup in 2028-29 🎉
I think with Kane it might come down to what he wants for his legacy. He has won multiple Cups. Maybe mentoring Raymond and helping him develop into a star to semi superstar wing might be a part of his legacy and being a part of getting the team to Cup hunt and contender status might satisfy his competitive side while maintaining those relationships with the DeBrincats. Purely hypothetical, but that might be at play too.
I think if we can nab a 2c quickly he'll be all in.
@@bartsanders1553man, if Compher becomes a 3c, to me, that signifies we are truly ready. Compher did well enough as a 2c with 20 goals and a huge part of the penalty kill this season. Give him better match ups on the third line and we're chillin
Gave up 274 goals for this season.
Gave up 279 goals in 2023
Gave up 314 goals in 2022
.........so we ARE improving!
Hahahaha, . . . . Good One 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Getting more standings points each year
314…
@@nickfury8973.. in 2022..
Haha. 11 more points than last season aswell. And even more wins than the season before that.. and before that!
.. maybe we are improving 😎
Thank you Boston, Tampa Bay, Philly, and Detroit for giving Washington the wins they needed to make the playoffs after having a -40 goal diff. We made the bed, now it's time to lay in it.
Ehh they'll at best play 5-6 games, get knocked out in the first round, spend the next 10 years trying to rebuild their team to compete again because they did everything possible to keep Ovi, it is what it is. Meanwhile the wings will be far in the playoffs in the next 2-3 thanks to having the genius of Yzerman as a GM. Id take the wings position over the caps current one 100 out of 100 times. Washington is playing with a Holland mindset as GM, you pay for that in the long run. Caps fans will be crying even harder than wings fans for the next decade plus.
Well done all year fellas
it still hurts with all the emotions I went through the last few few games I can only imagine how the guys feel. We got some good pieces in place and some good pieces on the way. It's hard keeping patience but, :"just a little bit longer."
The Islanders getting in with 15 OTL and less wins than Washington and Detroit just amplifies the need for a 3-2-1 system or just a straight up 1 point per win... no more points for losing.
There is always next year! LGRW!
How forgotten in kucherov? Austin Mathews got mentioned for potentially getting 70 goals, which he didn't, but kuch isn't mentioned could get 100 assists to match mcdavid, which he did do
You are absolutely right about the points system! The NHL should adopt "the three point system" (the IIHF and Europe already play that way and they will do it that way in the Four Nation Games in 2025) and in the OT/SO the winner gets two points and the loser one point. It would also be fairer in the overall calculation of the points and then you go by the goal difference.
Or, as in soccor/football (Europe), the winner gets three points, the loser gets zero points. In the event of a draw, each team receives one point, without an OT.
A regular win is therefore more rewarded.
Seriously ?? So your thinking is messed up with the point system rather than, oh I don’t know, PLAY BETTER ? Huge Wings fan, but they finished right where they deserved.
@@stevenlitkey9354 I don't know why you're upset! Your statement actually confirms the three-point system! Play better and harder, then your team will get the points. This points system can't be that bad if many sports in the world practice it.
@@user-tw3uc1iv9d Or, how about we hand out participation trophies and call it a day 🙄🙄. The current point system is fine. It’s the Redwing’s play that is sketchy and needs improvement !
How about a win is a win and a loss is a loss? Why reward teams for losing in overtime?
@@europason2293 I agree with you on the one hand and disagree with you on the other! Because the regular playing time is 3x20 min and not 3x20 +5 min and therefore both teams that followed the normal process are rewarded with at least one point before there is an OT game. I'm no expert, but for me it's fairer.
Or, an OT would be unnecessary and you could then follow the soccer system.
OHHH WHOAAA OHHH OHHH OHH 😔
It's the reverse 2022 Lions. Basically a .500 team that missed the playoffs on a tiebreaker but instead of a weak start and strong finish.. it was a strong start and a melt down
Proud of this team. Proud of the season. Moving in the right direction, despite a gut punch ending, we have continued improvement. Proud of this podcast as well, you guys crush it for another fantastic year. Thank you. Griffins Playoffs begin soon, head to GR and support! LGRW 🐙 🏒 🤘
Since it wasnt mentioned I will give a shout out to walmart version brad marchand(Brendan Gallagher) for being a villian and thorn in the sides of redwings fans the last two games. Gotta love villians(even if they are dollar tree knock offs) a tip of the cap to you sir.
Going into that final faceoff, i had my remote in my hand ready to turn my tv off in disgust. Then...4 seconds later...i had my heart attack. And then about 45 seconds later i had my 2nd heart attack when philly said "you know what? Fuck detroit"
Kept racking my brain over the many situations where 1 point could have been salvaged throughout the season, coupled with the lack of motivation the team had at times and it struck me; I wonder if a silver lining to this kind of loss, whereas Even if you managed to win the last 3 games of a season when you were close, EVERY SITUATION IN EVERY GAMES MATTER. This trauma will no doubt effect players to get (or be given) flashbacks to conjure that extra sense of urgency during games that don't seemingly seem to matter as much early and mid-season. This is a Great lesson, not a tragic failure.
Hope we get a couple nice wingers for JT to play with next year. Probably would have to be through trade. Something keeps telling me Calgary and or Utah
Think back to 2009. Up 3-0 in the Finals and losing at the end of game 7. Missing the playoffs in 2024 is not the worst feeling. Missing the playoffs this year isn't even worse than 1995 and getting swept. I will not watch any footage of 2009 at all. Not even regular season games. Having the 12 Stanley Cup taken away is still sickening.
Next year we’re going to the playoffs 100 points
When the season started, I predicted the cat lark ray combo would get 100+ goals. Had lark played 82 games I think their total would have hit that
You guys are great. Sucks the season is over. I’m not as excited for the future as others seem to be. This year was fluky with the low point totals, and Kane will be gone, so Wings are still a long way away from contending. I see a scenario where drought extends another 3 years and Larkin gets old, meaning the third rebuild is required because Wings don’t have 1C or 2C in system.
Title should have been "Red Wings Fall Brad"
😂
Santeria worked, but forgot making it against the Capitals.
Wait you guys live streamed the games?
No loser point is way better than the 3-2-1 point system
This was as close as it gets
Gotta sign Kane!!! 🙏
If they would have shown up in Nashville a few weeks ago, you wouldn't be having this conversation. If you don't come to play every night, this will potentially be your year.
There are 41 games with a "if they woukd have" tag attached to it.
I know this wasn't really a what's going to happen with the roster episode but I'm curious what are the chances of Bertuzzi back to Detroit and do we think he would improve the team and fit?
Id rather have bertuzzi than Fischer
@@patrickgaughan1199 100% I think he has much better skill, yet still has the gritty side that honestly the Wings have been missing since he got dealt
Bertuzzi can't stay on the ice, will hurt the cap if he has too many goals. Steve knows what he's doing, bertuzzi won't be back, and I'm fine with that. There's a dozen bertuzzis in each draft, have patience and trust yzerman who drafted- seider, Raymond, edvinson, and has #1 ranked prospect pool in the league- knows what he's doing, compared to Holland whose only worthwhile pick was a no brainier hometown kid in Larkin, and draft picks made by haakan Anderson in pav and z, aside from that he was garbage and a joke of a GM who benefitted from his predecessors.
@@bradmaguire9611 that's 3 picks dude. None of his others have amounted to anything special. I have faith but I also understand that this team is still ages away from being in serious contention for the cup
@@patrickgaughan1199 that's 2 soon to be 3 when cossa comes up more top picks than Holland had in his entire tenure, and as far as ages go, nah unless 3 years for you is ages. They won't wait much longer than that to put the last pieces in place, Larkin will be in his 30's then, he has earned a lot of say in how this team should be going, he won't want to wait much longer. Kasper Johansen and mazur will be up at some point next year, full time the year after and Axel sandin might be up by then as well. That's not exactly ages, by that time Boston, Florida, and Toronto will start to have drop offs due to bloated caps and aging players. The Sens and Ottawa will continue to be a disappointment, New Jersey will be pushing but who knows if Hughes can play half a season, Philly will self destruct with overrated torts, Tampa will be long done, Washington done, Pittsburgh done, so name me which teams in the East have more promise than Detroit when the league at large recognizes that the wings have the deepest prospect pool and all of these other teams are aging and running out of cap space? And if you're going to say a team like Montreal than you gotta be smoking some crack bud.
As soon as I saw the Caps hit an open netter in a tie game all I thought was why did Tortarella fuck us.
I always thought the tie breaker was the ROW. When did that change?
They should play every game like season is on the line
Where was this intensity when they played Coyotes?
Hey guys 👋🏼 I’m depressed 👍🏼
I’m thinking a little outside the box on this. His girl and his kid probably doesn’t want to move all that much. Moving sucks, I say this as someone who has moved with a kid. I think he stays, personally. Maybe he takes a pay cut or keeps the same money. 2 years 4.5, take it or leave it. Otherwise sign Sprong and bring up some young guys.
Sitting Sprong during the losing streak wasn't smart
compared to players like Pavelski, Lundqvist, or whoever doesn't have a cup idk why you or people act like patty kane is desperate to chase a cup, he has 3.. ofcourse he wants to play for in the playoffs and for the cup hes one of the best players in the world but he loves playing for the red wings and many reasons to believe he is gonna stay. Him leaving just doesn't make sense, he would probably rather stay a few years with the wings and help with their playoff success and hopefully cap his career off with a cup win with the wings but I don't see him chasing a bunch of stanley cup teams trying to get another ring like he's desperate at the end of his career.
Most sad I've been since 2009 season ending.
Larkin def. MVP over Raymond because our season tanked entirely both times he got hurt ... if he plays a healthy 82 we wouldn't have been in the dumps for Raymond to need to step up.
Funny thing is that if you did 1 v 8 the matchups would be exactly the same. At least in the east. Haha weird.
I’m getting my revenge on Xbox
Ryan, as a fellow dumb watch fan I am genuinely interested in what is your 1 good watch. And then you follow it up with admitting you wear an Apple Watch of all things most days 😒
😅 it's a Frederique Constant Heartbeat Moon Phase Date! I try to wear it as much as I can - thankfully remembered it for the TV20 appearances.
@@WingedWheelPodcast sweet watch 👍
Refs, as usual, are consistently garbage. At this point, i think its time to get rid of whoever is reviewing these guys reffing.
No more Perron, he is too slow and takes stupid penalties, screw keeping him around to be a cheerleader, that had 0 impact when Larkin was injured and they went on that losing streak
If Lyon has started the last game,they would be up 2 goals and Philly wouldn‘t pull the goalie
Judging by Lyon's performances in his previous two starts, I don't think that was in any way a guaranteed outcome.
@@europason2293 have you seen the goals against him? Witch one was his fault? You tell me, that he could change position in a tens of a second? Try it by yourself and come back later…
@@Hellboydrw Obviously there were goals where the defense left him out to dry, but there was a definitely a goal or two in the Penguins game specifically that he should have made. The first goal specifically comes to mind.