That is the greatest entry to a video ever hahahaha Im literally laughing hysterically out loud to the point my roomie thinks im nuts....Im easily amused lol
I agree that both are OP, but: E25 has +1 -2 MM, while T67 has +2 -1 (tier 3 cant meet tier 5) E25 has +600 DPM which is a lot. E25 has unnerfed camo rating while firing, which is insane. E25 makes credits, so it gives players incentive to play. E25 has armor against tier 5s and some tier 6s All in all: in OP-ness E25 is still waaayy ahead of the T67 My ranking of OP tanks would be: Leauge A : E25 Leauge B: Defender, LT432, T44100, Leauge C: T67, M2Light, low tier statpadding tanks
Not really, it's not faster, and e25 can ram tank. When t67 was meeting tier 3, ram a pz 1c was never a good idea. And t67 has a mm -1/+2. The e25 has a -2/+1.
@@rontap7146 sure the E25's stats look better... *until you compare them TIER FOR TIER* 😉 . A T67 only needs 6 shots to kill a KV-1, while an E25 will need 11 shots to kill a KV-3 (that's almost twice as many). In other words, the T67 is the clear winner in firepower. Same goes for the other stats.
@@SupremeMasterr The 1C is such a ridiculous tank and if played right it's overpowered as hell. Though I like swatting them in my T 15, people tend to overestimate it's ability to do damage beyond point blank range and the T 15 has enough maneuvrability to keep it's front forward, usually.
Doesn't require great players...but if they're not great, they've got to be lucky or in a platoon. Those aren't super OP tanks, they're just popular among stet pedders :P
I think overall perofomace of t67 may be lower than we expect because of new players and wanna be seal clubers sucking in this low hp paper tank. And of course T67 in the hands of a good player is fucking amazing.
It is amazing AND expensive - LR lost 19K and 16.5K on these two games - and he wasn't shooting all prem ammo (some sealclubbers only load prem). So my bet is that THIS is the reason it didn't get nerfed - it is a cash cow - ;o)
The reason is him using food. Simple as that. On tier 5. That can not work out creditwise (and he knows) and shows that his intend simply is to fuck some new players.
I don't really feel threatened by the T67 anymore. I did when I first gotten my first Tier 5 tank, but then it was a good experience in learning about cover and how not to leave your ass sitting out in the open.
with my HE-Hetzer I always shoot these things first (blind fire on a suspect bush works regularly - although blind fire with a derp can be tricky) - usually they die if I hit them - ;o)
I came post nerf so I always thought maybe the hellcat was more in meta, I never did understand why people always compare the skorp g to this as the t67 has small alpha, unless of course the hellcat isn't really fast.
figot latenby for its tier the T67’s alpha is perfectly acceptable. 115 damage isn’t huge but you can kill a KV-1 in about 5-7 shots with it which isn’t bad.
I want to state this again, he never called the tiger a bad player and even recognized the same problems the Tiger wanted to share at 12:10, and he mentioned it sooner as well. His first priority was wanting to see if he could commit to the general strategy that seemed to be going on with everyone else, a counter push from north which he felt was stalled. He said the Tiger wouldn't be effective with 1000 hp left which is true, I wouldn't expect anyone to do what he did with that much HP which is why lemming went to help He was black listed for map spam pinging with doesn't bring the best out in people and no one has to tolerate it.
@@HritwRaje Okay okay sorry, got I really messed up my wording here. Not the only thing I rushed here... So! Basically I wanted to suggest that if you were saying the Tiger I shouldn't have been black listed, I disagree and for some reason assumed you may have meant that Lemming Rush was some how rude for doing so. Perhaps you just wanted to give what's deserved to the Tiger for doing well, which I agree with, but I ended up reading into your short comment way too much to elaborate that Lemming Rush also stated what you've said too
@@Metal_Tao what part of my comment suggests that LR was wrong at blacklisting a spamming player? What part of the comment calls him rude to do so? Dude, sometimes, you gotta stop searching for hidden meanings in text. Not all are from girls, you know....
Now imagine this tank on a sheriff account, with 13 skilled commander and 9 skilled crew members... saw it not too long ago on TRU's stream and its pretty disgusting ( TRU felt very dirty after playing it LOL )
WG hasn't nerfed it because it is already nerfed. The slot was originally held by the original T5 TD T49. It was ridiculously OP. So OP that WG didn't just nerf it, it was completely removed and replaced with the T67. Yes, it is still a bit OP in the hands of a better than average player. However the T49 at the slot was OP even in the hands of a below average player.
@@KSA-iwnl-, the original T49 went faster, had a bit more armor and health and the gun had enough penetration to play with T8 tanks if you spent gold. Add in that this was back before physics and the T49 could just run up, blap something in the face and often duck/dodge the return shot. You can try that with the T67, but are faaaaaar more likely to eat the return shot.
No. They changed the turret from closed to open and they increased view range to 370m. Then they nerfed it to 340 or 350m. In some patch when all TDs were nerfed they nerfed camo when firing. That's the only nerf. Hellcat and T40 were nerfed in many ways, but t49/t67 was not.
I won an e25 in a creative contest. I refused to play it for the longest time and then I pulled it out whenever I had an unbearable string of losses. I need a shower every time I play the thing.
@ChandSlam Hah! You would run into the horrible paradox of the e25. Everyone wants an e25 because they think the thing turns noobs into killing machines but the opposite is true: its savage camo values are only as good as your general TD skills make them. You've got the super-tank, but you still have to put a thousand games into it before you're even adequate, and those games are hard to play in a tank that makes everyone, including some on your own team, hate you for driving it. Basically, if you have mad TD skills and a map that's full of bushes, an e25 is pure evil. If you don't have them, an e25 just makes you smell bad
@ChandSlam Hah! You presume that I assume. :-) I was telling you about my experience with the thing-using it and seeing it. When I started out in the thing, I got blown up with *dEEEEpressing* regularty, and, just within the last eight hours, I was zipping toward the enemy arty in a won endgame when I feeding all my remaining HP to one of those nasty little things spamming heat from some place I never saw. An hour later, I was on Sand River when some poor bastard decided to take his e25 down the trench in the middle because he wanted to really nail down the meaning of terms like, "surrounded" and "fucked over." When I got the killing shot in, the chat lit up with what would have been applause. I know what you mean about using the thing for crew training: Compared to my obj 704 with the four-skilled crew, it's often more trouble than it's worth. I *must have* the new SU-130 PM. I must *possess* it... ;-)
@ChandSlam Heh. I started it late and I know I'm going to pay at least half of the full cost but one thing will make it all worthwhile-the thought of what is going to go on in the minds of people in that earliest games in it. "Hmmm... a new premium with no armor. He hasn't had time to train up a crew on it. He's going to be one of those noob-scrubs with more money than skills-easy to find hiding in the back in the bushes in the north. I'll just load HE and...(BOOM!!) AHHH!!!" Did I mention my four-skilled TD-crew? Thanks for being fun.
OP or not, T67 is one of my go-to tanks when I need to have fun. LOVE IT! Lemmingrush, thank you for doing such a great job breaking down your thought process. Whether it's in one of my favorite tanks, or anything else, I think hearing the thought process of great players as a game unfolds is so crucial to learning to play better. THANKS!!!
Hah, there are people who would't mount those on a tier 5 vehicle anyway cuz it is a waste of credits. This tank can be one-shoted by a HE from a durp gun. I did this to many fast paper tanks. Beeing fast i is useless in wot, you will never be faster than the speed of a bullet shot by a sharpshooter.
@@johnryan6658 Hah, have you ever seen a Heavy Tank Pro Player? Next time, when you see a heavy tank caught in the open, that is not a pro heavy tank player. That would be the dumbest shit ever.
@@Extrasailor there are several maps where, depending on the situation, a heavy can get caught in the open. Maps like Malinovka, Murovanka, Prokhorovka, or Steppes to name a few.
You did great in both games, but you got Mastery badges 1st & 2nd class-- implying that you did significantly better than most people do in that tank. That, I propose, is why it hasn't been nerfed more: a great player can play it to great effect, but most of us can't. I'm a basically dead-middle average player and my best T67 games so far out of 127 starts was Mastery 2. It has quirks or trade-offs that you have the skill to work around, and I (and half of all players) don't. Great games. Thanks.
The T67 was the second tank I ever fell in love in, and ultimately is my most played tank. It wasn't until I had played her about three thousand times I discovered her reputation as a sealclubber, but she taught me a lot about vision control and flexing. These days I go to my Charioteer for similar gameplay. But when the RNG or MM is being bad...well, she gets her tarp taken off and yet more seals added to her monstrous kill tally.
When I was new, lots of people recommended the T-67. Thing is, it's not a great choice for a new player- to get the really great performance out of it you need experience with game mechanics and a decent crew.
Love the T67, it's my most played tank. Two marks (I'm *not* spending on premium ammo to go for 3 ;-), 5-skill crew, and I use fuel instead of food (turret turns faster!). Great scout/TD mix, as you mentioned. And I am as surprised as you that it hasn't been nerfed.
Wow, you played your T67! It's rare and I enjoy it. Being a bad free-to-play player I stick to tier 5. I enjoy T67, KV1, KV1S, T34, etc. videos as they are representative of the vehicles I play as well as the vehicles I face (including the tier 6 and 7 enemy vehicles). It would have been nice if you encountered an E25 or tanks you can't penetrate. Seeing what you do about that might teach me something. In a T67 I'm sure it's run away. A knife fight between you in a T67 and an E25 would be something. Can a T67 beat the traverse of an E25? I've only killed one E25 in my T67 and it was at least half luck. Someone else softened him up, was killed doing so, and I got the kill because I had all my hit points and was able to take a hit from him (being a potato I missed the first shot). QB is doing videos and streams where he started a free-to-play account. I suspect it will go on to be as much or even more popular than content based on his regular account because it appeals to a wider audience. I've heard estimates that 75% of the player base is free-to-play with many of them, like me, who mostly play and see enemy vehicles in the tier 4 to 7 range. Any content you produce that appeals to that segment of the player base will be well received and useful. For example, Circon recommends new and/or average (read: bad) players alternate between the KV1 and the KV1S until they get better. Content from you on how to play those would be fantastic. The T67 has mobility, stealth, reasonable view range and fast reload. What do you do when you don't have those things? Add to that a 75% crew and no premium stuff. I don't feel right playing a KV1 or KV1S like a TD, but I guess that's how it has to be in the world of free-to-play. Maybe you can show us a play style for that situation that is better. Positioning, when to push, when to hold, etc. Maybe sometimes it's a good idea to wait 30 seconds or even a minute before leaving the spawn and choosing a flank as you won't be able to change flanks in a KV1 once you've committed. With tier 5 I find that I'm very often mid or bottom tier. How do you play a bottom tier heavy tank without a lot of premium rounds and without hanging around in the back like a pussy? In any case, thank you for the T67 video.
@@TheDragonRider6422 There ya go. I'd agree except this is a fantasy game and it cherry picks what attributes they want to use. Otherwise, no need for Japanese Heavy Tanks, no need for 95 mph clown cars that carry to big an engine, too big a gun, and can't roll over every time the make a 90 degree turn at top speed or their suspension doesn't break when the leap over a railroad embankment, their suspension must be made from Adamantium. Fantasy....have fun with it and don't get too technical.
I have a Jumbo, it slow to turn and the turret is even slower so they are almost like Arty. Run around, get behind and Bam. That slow 105 round makes the T-67 hard to hit if they are moving full speed across your front at any range, you have to give them considerable lead. I know, I have one of those as well. It used to be a great gun, now it's the only thing an M4 has that can maybe damage the tanks two tiers above you. Plus I cause a lot of module and crew damage with it.
Its balanced because only skilled players can do well in it because it punishes you very hard for every mistake. Litterally one mistake and youre dead in it.
OP? I blatted a platoon of three T67s as they tried a train rush around around a flank. Best reaper ribbon with my M4 Sherman durp ever! And that was today. XD
It is a tier V vehicle that in the hands of skilled player, it becomes an op seal clubber. In the hands of a new player, in which tier V has a high population of new players, they are an easy kill.
Three things. First: The T67 has a slow turret traverse speed - it is hard to handle someone who tries to jolo you. Second: the AP Shell velocity makes it hard to snipe at a driving target. Third: WG noticed exactly if you are playing better as the average player. The result is that you end more than everyone else as a bottom tier in nearly every match. The question is now why is this automatically a sealclubber tank? I have no answer. I do not drive this tank often - I drive something else but I noticed that WG's RNG is nearly blind for some statistically bad tanks if "you manage to handle them". I named them as "forgotten" - or completely underrated tanks. And I enjoy to surprise as a underrated bottomtier my opponents. The point is that everyone grind through the techtree until they reach the Hightier area. But do they really enjoy this? Is it worth to grind this without having any fun? I peronally think no. But it is only my Opinion.
You are right. A Turret is a advantage. But a TD with 0.39 Dispersion has no snapshot potential. If you try to use the mobility and the good concealment values for your team you need to know that you want to avoid every direct confrontation. The biggest advantage in WOT is "mobility", hp/t-ratio and concealment. And I think thats the reason why players love the T67, the e-25 and other tanks like that.
well, the T67 is horrible for snapshots but not really because of the base static 0.39 dispersion, I mean the M46 Patton has around the same accuracy value but is literally known for being able to snapshot things 100m away. but yeah regardless, T67 is fucking shit at snapshotting and should not be used as such.
I think the reason it hasn't been nerfed is because a 9 year old can't get 65% wins in the vehicle. A 9 year old such as a Wargaming super tester, for example. I only think the 268 V4 was nerfed because one of the super testers reached their 10th birthday and immediately got a Raseiniai's heroes medal.
I use the 105 on my M4 and that sounds like it was a hell of a shot. A great big noise, a round you can count the seconds to as it goes downrange, and a dispersal that makes hitting a Japanese heavy at 300 meters a truly great shot. What I really love is leading a tank moving laterally to me and hitting it . You really have to instinctively know how long the round will take to get to the target. You can't point and shoot because it ain't instantaneous I can tell you that.
Cola consumable on a Tier 5 seems like puppy kicking. :P. Then again i have "Experimental Optics" improved equipment on my SU100 and with BIA it has 402m view range on the move >.>
The reason it’s still not nerfed is because any arty and actual derp gun at tier 5 and maybe even 4 can one shot it or at least leave it on about 40 health
I would have to argue the OP. It's certainly not in the gun which a standard 76mm gun used on the M4 and E8, certainly nothing special about it. It fires relatively quickly but as quickly as Luchs or similar tank. It's penetration is so-so and it only does about 100 points of damage. It quick but not as fast as a clown car or even some light tanks so I'm not seeing the OP. Explain please.
For Empire go to H3 (behind that kidney formed stone), if people get on cap, you can poke them and you can snipe down the K/J Line very far. K0 is way too far in (and you wont be able to reset, so you forfeit having a definitive influence on win/loss).
well, it HAS been nerfed a couple times. once with the TD nerf and once on its own with the hellcat. I do like you blocking the tiger 1 for pinging the map to defend south, ignoring him, and later on being surprised that nobody went south.
TBH any tank is OP in Lemmingrush's hands! I suspect a lot of guys who played the unnerfed Hellcat moved their crews down to the T67 'cos the Hellcat became boring. If the T67 is nerfed and sucks, where are those crews goind? tier 4? high tier US tds are slow and....
Hi LR, great play in one of my favourite TD's (along with the E25) I feel that both are balanced and fun to play. I love these live commentary games and this was as salty as ever. Can you give your E25 a run out sometime please.
I'm T67 user.. has 2K battles in it and still counting.. I'm fuckin hate derp gun.. and this tank is shit in close encounter (when you got YOLO'ed).. But don't get me wrong,I'm not using it as a brawler or scout as so many player does. You only use this tank as scout if you have no other choice and even it rarely happens.. sometimes I even let the arty spot for me.. The rest of it just find a good spot, sit and hold your balls tight and always aware of the movement in the map.. Peoples usually say "you're fast, go scout!".. damn it i have no armor and limited view range on the move.. moreover the turret rotate like his grandma pedal it over..
Most people who play the t67 suck at it, so that balances out the few good players who have mastered it. WoT is founded on the idea that match-ups are unequal and unfair, hence +/- 2 MM. You are a good player, so you could ROFLStomp playing a M3 Lee (which most people suck at, but has a good gun for its tier).
The T67 was nerfed. Its view range was killed and they did something to its handling soft stats. I 2-marked it a couple of years ago but it's not the same these days.
Dan Channer gun handling was never an issue with the T67, the T67’s issue is disgusting camo and its 76mm machine gun. view range is not too much of an issue because using binocs will basically fix all VR issues.
DUDE.... The fact that most people don't know how to play that tank lowers their stats regarding WR and DPG. That doesn't mean the tank isn't overpowered. I got you were being sarcastic later in the video.
11:00 So... as south you have to give up all map and fight in the tunnels. But because you are in the tunnels the enemy has to push into all campers. Ergo loosing all HP. All playing in just 10% of the map. I'm glad I have this mode deactivated >.> WG pls never change...
there are only a few people who can drive this tank - sad that they nerfed him so badly when he lost his closed turret and the ability to snipe on long range... you can get one-shot from lvl 3 tanks and up... there was no need to be so mean to this tank :(
I guess this is proof of why I'll never manage higher than a 2k WN8. I just don't have the mental capacity to handle thinking like this in a game outside of a set couple that I REALLY enjoy. Just never considered thinking about literally everything that goes on in a WoT match. This is crazy. I now know why there aren't any guides from many Unis teaching players.
There's one mistake: you should not waste ammo by blindfiring everything. I three marked this tank and running out of ammo is a real problem with this tank. What's weird is that as far I remember these games are quite average for my standard. But you are somehow way better player at high tiers.
Funny, in the second game the guy in the Tiger I did better than you expected, but he is on your blacklist so at some point he did something to piss you off LOL Cheers!
Damn.. Always when I watch your videos I feel like playing some WoT cos you make it look like a fun game. But in the end, for me WoT is a cool game to watch but not to play.
Is that feeling due to the fun-to-frustration ratio? Wot is like an arcady FPS...not at all realistic. But it's fun as heck!!! Except for when it's not. Then it causes me to rage and break things....I could have broken kb and mouse marks on the side of my turret as kill-counters for the number of kb and mice this games has cost me :p
@@sirpudd3554 I play on high tiers, 9 and 10 where the real tanks are. sure it is frustrating when you play arty, end up in city map, or your team has 10 basecamping heavies.. Or you face type 5 heavy that just spam HE, no skill needed. Back when obj 268 v4 was not yet nerfed, those were pretty big source of frustration too. now the game is just.. Meh. The lack of variety in content, maps and friends to play with tends to do that. And by content I mean there's no long co-op missions or campaing, frontline is missing.. There is nothing but random battles. I only have about 8k battles, and the game is just straight out boring.
hepho wot is all about random battles in one way or another, I find that part the most boring. War thunder would probably be an upgrade from that, but meh. I found some other kind of interesting games. For the past 1,5 years I've been playing warframe mostly. I tried my hand at destiny 2 cos I got it for free, but it wasn't fun for longer than 2 weeks.
hepho i have a few years old laptop so I can't play the latest and coolest new games, so I'm just playing older games. Fallout 4 still works, and I did enjoy that game for about 1500 hours, same as skyrim. The only good games from russian devs I really enjoy still today are S.T.A.L.K.E.R franchise. Then I enjoy assassins creed games too, and as you might have noticed, all of these are huge open world single player campaing games :D
Okay 1 minute into the video and i already have to say something: just because wg has the statistics of a tank, doesnt mean that they change or not change thing. Take the Is3a: solid 53% global wr, wg buffed it into oblivion bc it sold like the defender or the skorpion did
About 12 Tier 5 TDs. AT2, 60G FT, M10 and Ikv all have higher win rates. S35CA has highest dmg per game but T67 is second. Both the S35CA and SU-85i have better Frag numbers. T67 is head and shoulders above all other TDs for spotting. The T67 also has almost 600 million games played in it. The next closest is the StuG 40 Ausf G at 195 million games. The problem with the T67, and it is a HUGE problem is that it has no armor. NONE. It is vulnerable to even Tier 1 guns and HE shells absolutely wreck it. Just about any Tier 4 or higher with a howitzer will 1 shot it if they hit it. The gun accuracy is also a problem and the turret is slow. Give the tank to a new WoT player with a 75% crew and it will get destroyed. Still, it does very will when unicums take it out and club the baby seals. ;)
I have been playing WoT since 2011, but have played just one (1) game in the T67. In my first game I got 2700 dmg, 7 kills, 2365 exp. It was clear to me from that single game how wonderfully balanced machine that is.
Just stumbled across your channel and I noticed that you play on the EU server. Is there any reason for that? It seems like it would be better to play on server with better ping. Just an honest question. Also great video :)
Hey! Yeah I used to play on NA as I live in Canada, but I like gridding and the NA server has a peak of 27K players during prime time. EU will last longer
"Hey guys it's lemmingrush and today we're gonna piss a lot of people off" - that was a godlike intro lol
That is the greatest entry to a video ever hahahaha Im literally laughing hysterically out loud to the point my roomie thinks im nuts....Im easily amused lol
no idea why you have to resort to using food and so many prem ammo, guess you just have tons of credits/gold/$ to burn through.
*E25:* an E25.
*T67:* an E25 but faster, with a turret and almost the exact same gun and camo rating but two tiers lower
And I love them both...
I agree that both are OP, but:
E25 has +1 -2 MM, while T67 has +2 -1 (tier 3 cant meet tier 5)
E25 has +600 DPM which is a lot.
E25 has unnerfed camo rating while firing, which is insane.
E25 makes credits, so it gives players incentive to play.
E25 has armor against tier 5s and some tier 6s
All in all: in OP-ness E25 is still waaayy ahead of the T67
My ranking of OP tanks would be:
Leauge A : E25
Leauge B: Defender, LT432, T44100,
Leauge C: T67, M2Light, low tier statpadding tanks
Not really, it's not faster, and e25 can ram tank. When t67 was meeting tier 3, ram a pz 1c was never a good idea. And t67 has a mm -1/+2. The e25 has a -2/+1.
@@rontap7146 - Yep I have all those tanks and love playing them all.
@@rontap7146 sure the E25's stats look better... *until you compare them TIER FOR TIER* 😉 .
A T67 only needs 6 shots to kill a KV-1, while an E25 will need 11 shots to kill a KV-3 (that's almost twice as many). In other words, the T67 is the clear winner in firepower.
Same goes for the other stats.
*video starts*
>T67
*triggered*
Play the AMX 40. Best tank at tier 4. :p
Quack
Yeah, that thing is epic, ducktank :D
Your e gonna get quacked😂😂
The armor can actually be pretty good sometimes. Lol
@@saltysteel3996 I've been trying to get an ace tanker. It's driving me quackers. 15/70 of my games are first class.
Sealclubbers hate him for this one simple Trick! Click before this gets removed from internet for ever!!!
Pls nerf Lemming
Hahaha
Pz 1C is balanced.
Luchs is balanced.
Because Wargaming :D
But they are.... Bruh
They balanced t4 and t5 german lights by decreasing some bullet in a clip but pz1 c stayed same...
@@SupremeMasterr The 1C is such a ridiculous tank and if played right it's overpowered as hell. Though I like swatting them in my T 15, people tend to overestimate it's ability to do damage beyond point blank range and the T 15 has enough maneuvrability to keep it's front forward, usually.
Doesn't require great players...but if they're not great, they've got to be lucky or in a platoon. Those aren't super OP tanks, they're just popular among stet pedders :P
@@auturgicflosculator2183 Luchs can kill so many things in 1 clip... :3
Omg t67 gut tonk!
*gets two shotted 1 minute in every game*
Wargaming HQ: Yeah, average winrate seems balanced
Its a really good sniper. iYou die the first minute because your a bad T67 driver.
I think overall perofomace of t67 may be lower than we expect because of new players and wanna be seal clubers sucking in this low hp paper tank. And of course T67 in the hands of a good player is fucking amazing.
It is amazing AND expensive - LR lost 19K and 16.5K on these two games - and he wasn't shooting all prem ammo (some sealclubbers only load prem). So my bet is that THIS is the reason it didn't get nerfed - it is a cash cow - ;o)
The reason is him using food. Simple as that. On tier 5. That can not work out creditwise (and he knows) and shows that his intend simply is to fuck some new players.
I don't really feel threatened by the T67 anymore. I did when I first gotten my first Tier 5 tank, but then it was a good experience in learning about cover and how not to leave your ass sitting out in the open.
I don't feel threatened by the tank, I feel threatened by the wolf-pack platoons running the tank :P
with my HE-Hetzer I always shoot these things first (blind fire on a suspect bush works regularly - although blind fire with a derp can be tricky) - usually they die if I hit them - ;o)
I came post nerf so I always thought maybe the hellcat was more in meta, I never did understand why people always compare the skorp g to this as the t67 has small alpha, unless of course the hellcat isn't really fast.
figot latenby
for its tier the T67’s alpha is perfectly acceptable.
115 damage isn’t huge but you can kill a KV-1 in about 5-7 shots with it which isn’t bad.
@@figotlatenby588 used to be. RIP
"they are more likely to make an informed decision...." lmao
The Tiger I that he blacklisted actually carried the team.
I want to state this again, he never called the tiger a bad player and even recognized the same problems the Tiger wanted to share at 12:10, and he mentioned it sooner as well.
His first priority was wanting to see if he could commit to the general strategy that seemed to be going on with everyone else, a counter push from north which he felt was stalled.
He said the Tiger wouldn't be effective with 1000 hp left which is true, I wouldn't expect anyone to do what he did with that much HP which is why lemming went to help
He was black listed for map spam pinging with doesn't bring the best out in people and no one has to tolerate it.
He also stated the Tiger carried and did he was knee of the reasons why we won the match at the end
@@Metal_Tao could you please rephrase that?
@@HritwRaje Okay okay sorry, got I really messed up my wording here.
Not the only thing I rushed here...
So! Basically I wanted to suggest that if you were saying the Tiger I shouldn't have been black listed, I disagree and for some reason assumed you may have meant that Lemming Rush was some how rude for doing so. Perhaps you just wanted to give what's deserved to the Tiger for doing well, which I agree with, but I ended up reading into your short comment way too much to elaborate that Lemming Rush also stated what you've said too
@@Metal_Tao what part of my comment suggests that LR was wrong at blacklisting a spamming player? What part of the comment calls him rude to do so?
Dude, sometimes, you gotta stop searching for hidden meanings in text. Not all are from girls, you know....
if wargaming hasn't nerfed it, it's balanced - LemmingRush after ignoring the fact it took wargaming three years to nerf the Kv-1s
Now imagine this tank on a sheriff account, with 13 skilled commander and 9 skilled crew members... saw it not too long ago on TRU's stream and its pretty disgusting ( TRU felt very dirty after playing it LOL )
That should be grounds for an instant ban TBH.
WG hasn't nerfed it because it is already nerfed. The slot was originally held by the original T5 TD T49. It was ridiculously OP. So OP that WG didn't just nerf it, it was completely removed and replaced with the T67. Yes, it is still a bit OP in the hands of a better than average player. However the T49 at the slot was OP even in the hands of a below average player.
I played it as T49 but I cant remember
why was it more OP?
I remember it the same as the current T67
@@KSA-iwnl-, the original T49 went faster, had a bit more armor and health and the gun had enough penetration to play with T8 tanks if you spent gold. Add in that this was back before physics and the T49 could just run up, blap something in the face and often duck/dodge the return shot. You can try that with the T67, but are faaaaaar more likely to eat the return shot.
I got screenshots from 2014.
I dont know what are you talking about.
gyazo.com/1a24d7515fe420394b667f705f2d1375
I never saw better version of it.
it's the same tank, they've just changed the turret
No. They changed the turret from closed to open and they increased view range to 370m. Then they nerfed it to 340 or 350m. In some patch when all TDs were nerfed they nerfed camo when firing. That's the only nerf. Hellcat and T40 were nerfed in many ways, but t49/t67 was not.
It's actually pretty rare to find someone playing the t67 who is any good
I haven’t played this game in 2 years, I’ve been watching all your videos from newest release to this one, and I realize how much I miss playing it.
I won an e25 in a creative contest. I refused to play it for the longest time and then I pulled it out whenever I had an unbearable string of losses.
I need a shower every time I play the thing.
@ChandSlam
Hah! You would run into the horrible paradox of the e25.
Everyone wants an e25 because they think the thing turns noobs into killing machines but the opposite is true: its savage camo values are only as good as your general TD skills make them. You've got the super-tank, but you still have to put a thousand games into it before you're even adequate, and those games are hard to play in a tank that makes everyone, including some on your own team, hate you for driving it.
Basically, if you have mad TD skills and a map that's full of bushes, an e25 is pure evil. If you don't have them, an e25 just makes you smell bad
E25 gud tenk
got ~2000 avg dmg in it
got bored of it after 200 matches
@ChandSlam
Hah! You presume that I assume. :-)
I was telling you about my experience with the thing-using it and seeing it.
When I started out in the thing, I got blown up with *dEEEEpressing* regularty, and, just within the last eight hours, I was zipping toward the enemy arty in a won endgame when I feeding all my remaining HP to one of those nasty little things spamming heat from some place I never saw.
An hour later, I was on Sand River when some poor bastard decided to take his e25 down the trench in the middle because he wanted to really nail down the meaning of terms like, "surrounded" and "fucked over."
When I got the killing shot in, the chat lit up with what would have been applause.
I know what you mean about using the thing for crew training: Compared to my obj 704 with the four-skilled crew, it's often more trouble than it's worth.
I *must have* the new SU-130 PM. I must *possess* it...
;-)
@ChandSlam
Heh.
I started it late and I know I'm going to pay at least half of the full cost but one thing will make it all worthwhile-the thought of what is going to go on in the minds of people in that earliest games in it.
"Hmmm... a new premium with no armor. He hasn't had time to train up a crew on it. He's going to be one of those noob-scrubs with more money than skills-easy to find hiding in the back in the bushes in the north. I'll just load HE and...(BOOM!!) AHHH!!!"
Did I mention my four-skilled TD-crew?
Thanks for being fun.
OP or not, T67 is one of my go-to tanks when I need to have fun. LOVE IT!
Lemmingrush, thank you for doing such a great job breaking down your thought process. Whether it's in one of my favorite tanks, or anything else, I think hearing the thought process of great players as a game unfolds is so crucial to learning to play better. THANKS!!!
I play on console, the T67 is a TD on console. Haven't unlocked it but after seeing your vid now I want to. Always enjoy your videos, thanks
Your commentary, gameplay, skills, ideas are so good. You explain everything super good and it's entertaining to watch your videos.
It's perfectly balanced Lemmingrush!
It can't mount vents!
Hah, there are people who would't mount those on a tier 5 vehicle anyway cuz it is a waste of credits. This tank can be one-shoted by a HE from a durp gun. I did this to many fast paper tanks. Beeing fast i is useless in wot, you will never be faster than the speed of a bullet shot by a sharpshooter.
@@Extrasailor That may be the dumbest comment ever. Tell that to a heavy or td or spg caught out in the open by a light.
@@johnryan6658 Hah, have you ever seen a Heavy Tank Pro Player? Next time, when you see a heavy tank caught in the open, that is not a pro heavy tank player. That would be the dumbest shit ever.
@@Extrasailor there are several maps where, depending on the situation, a heavy can get caught in the open. Maps like Malinovka, Murovanka, Prokhorovka, or Steppes to name a few.
@@Extrasailor k
You did great in both games, but you got Mastery badges 1st & 2nd class-- implying that you did significantly better than most people do in that tank. That, I propose, is why it hasn't been nerfed more: a great player can play it to great effect, but most of us can't. I'm a basically dead-middle average player and my best T67 games so far out of 127 starts was Mastery 2. It has quirks or trade-offs that you have the skill to work around, and I (and half of all players) don't.
Great games. Thanks.
A6 bush: now the most popular blind shot target in the game. Lol
The T67 was the second tank I ever fell in love in, and ultimately is my most played tank. It wasn't until I had played her about three thousand times I discovered her reputation as a sealclubber, but she taught me a lot about vision control and flexing. These days I go to my Charioteer for similar gameplay. But when the RNG or MM is being bad...well, she gets her tarp taken off and yet more seals added to her monstrous kill tally.
Sealclubbing the sealclubbers.
Aye, that's the way I look at it brother.
Thank you for defending WG and the diligent work they do to make sure there are no OP tanks in this very fair game.
"We'll bounce off the rear of the t-28". I cri evry tim 😭
When I was new, lots of people recommended the T-67. Thing is, it's not a great choice for a new player- to get the really great performance out of it you need experience with game mechanics and a decent crew.
Love the T67, it's my most played tank. Two marks (I'm *not* spending on premium ammo to go for 3 ;-), 5-skill crew, and I use fuel instead of food (turret turns faster!). Great scout/TD mix, as you mentioned. And I am as surprised as you that it hasn't been nerfed.
My favorite thing about this tank is the open turret - so my crew can get sun tans between battles.
I have an all girl crew, so....yeah.
Wow, you played your T67! It's rare and I enjoy it. Being a bad free-to-play player I stick to tier 5. I enjoy T67, KV1, KV1S, T34, etc. videos as they are representative of the vehicles I play as well as the vehicles I face (including the tier 6 and 7 enemy vehicles). It would have been nice if you encountered an E25 or tanks you can't penetrate. Seeing what you do about that might teach me something. In a T67 I'm sure it's run away. A knife fight between you in a T67 and an E25 would be something. Can a T67 beat the traverse of an E25? I've only killed one E25 in my T67 and it was at least half luck. Someone else softened him up, was killed doing so, and I got the kill because I had all my hit points and was able to take a hit from him (being a potato I missed the first shot). QB is doing videos and streams where he started a free-to-play account. I suspect it will go on to be as much or even more popular than content based on his regular account because it appeals to a wider audience. I've heard estimates that 75% of the player base is free-to-play with many of them, like me, who mostly play and see enemy vehicles in the tier 4 to 7 range. Any content you produce that appeals to that segment of the player base will be well received and useful. For example, Circon recommends new and/or average (read: bad) players alternate between the KV1 and the KV1S until they get better. Content from you on how to play those would be fantastic. The T67 has mobility, stealth, reasonable view range and fast reload. What do you do when you don't have those things? Add to that a 75% crew and no premium stuff. I don't feel right playing a KV1 or KV1S like a TD, but I guess that's how it has to be in the world of free-to-play. Maybe you can show us a play style for that situation that is better. Positioning, when to push, when to hold, etc. Maybe sometimes it's a good idea to wait 30 seconds or even a minute before leaving the spawn and choosing a flank as you won't be able to change flanks in a KV1 once you've committed. With tier 5 I find that I'm very often mid or bottom tier. How do you play a bottom tier heavy tank without a lot of premium rounds and without hanging around in the back like a pussy? In any case, thank you for the T67 video.
T67 needs turret traverse buff!
And a fv4005 needs and autoloader
@ChandSlam i would give the speed buff to the borsig like can we give it a 40km/h speed
american tds all had hand cranked turrets so they gonna be slow
@@NotADuncon you mean WT auf.E100?
@@TheDragonRider6422 There ya go. I'd agree except this is a fantasy game and it cherry picks what attributes they want to use. Otherwise, no need for Japanese Heavy Tanks, no need for 95 mph clown cars that carry to big an engine, too big a gun, and can't roll over every time the make a 90 degree turn at top speed or their suspension doesn't break when the leap over a railroad embankment, their suspension must be made from Adamantium. Fantasy....have fun with it and don't get too technical.
Perfectly balanced, as all things should be
The ultimate seal clubber and stat padding tank
I smile when I see these while in my Sherman Jumbo, because I can always count on full pens with the 105. =)
I have a Jumbo, it slow to turn and the turret is even slower so they are almost like Arty. Run around, get behind and Bam. That slow 105 round makes the T-67 hard to hit if they are moving full speed across your front at any range, you have to give them considerable lead. I know, I have one of those as well. It used to be a great gun, now it's the only thing an M4 has that can maybe damage the tanks two tiers above you. Plus I cause a lot of module and crew damage with it.
The tank is not OP, simply put, you played those two games well. The tank is what it is, the player is responsible for using it properly.
Never thought I'd see a Cromwell alive last, they normally YOLO into the enemy half of map in the 1st 30 seconds and die.
Its balanced because only skilled players can do well in it because it punishes you very hard for every mistake. Litterally one mistake and youre dead in it.
Especially when you can be onehsot boy t4 td's. *Stares accusingly at hetzer*
OP for experienced players, very weak for new players.
The T-67s' weak armor makes you fight smart, especially as your low tier most of the time. That should be a plus for WoT. We'll see.
I've learned so much from watching your videos man. I wish there were more I hadn't seen!
Its balance, it's not open... Whoever says this tank is OP IS CRAZY and knows nothing about this tank
Loved our crazy T67 platooning. Thanks!!
Next -R tank WoT could offer: T67-R premium tier V, with BiA crew, special 8% camo, maaaaybe autoloder? Guys what do you think? 100$ bundle?
i love how you tell everything youre doing and why, super helpful! =)
OP? I blatted a platoon of three T67s as they tried a train rush around around a flank. Best reaper ribbon with my M4 Sherman durp ever! And that was today. XD
It is a tier V vehicle that in the hands of skilled player, it becomes an op seal clubber. In the hands of a new player, in which tier V has a high population of new players, they are an easy kill.
Three things. First: The T67 has a slow turret traverse speed - it is hard to handle someone who tries to jolo you. Second: the AP Shell velocity makes it hard to snipe at a driving target. Third: WG noticed exactly if you are playing better as the average player. The result is that you end more than everyone else as a bottom tier in nearly every match. The question is now why is this automatically a sealclubber tank? I have no answer. I do not drive this tank often - I drive something else but I noticed that WG's RNG is nearly blind for some statistically bad tanks if "you manage to handle them". I named them as "forgotten" - or completely underrated tanks. And I enjoy to surprise as a underrated bottomtier my opponents. The point is that everyone grind through the techtree until they reach the Hightier area. But do they really enjoy this? Is it worth to grind this without having any fun? I peronally think no. But it is only my Opinion.
You are right. A Turret is a advantage. But a TD with 0.39 Dispersion has no snapshot potential. If you try to use the mobility and the good concealment values for your team you need to know that you want to avoid every direct confrontation.
The biggest advantage in WOT is "mobility", hp/t-ratio and concealment. And I think thats the reason why players love the T67, the e-25 and other tanks like that.
well, the T67 is horrible for snapshots but not really because of the base static 0.39 dispersion, I mean the M46 Patton has around the same accuracy value but is literally known for being able to snapshot things 100m away.
but yeah regardless, T67 is fucking shit at snapshotting and should not be used as such.
I think the reason it hasn't been nerfed is because a 9 year old can't get 65% wins in the vehicle. A 9 year old such as a Wargaming super tester, for example. I only think the 268 V4 was nerfed because one of the super testers reached their 10th birthday and immediately got a Raseiniai's heroes medal.
Man, I love to watch you play Type64
Who's cross hairs are you running? Love the look! T67 sealclubbing! Gotta love it!!
oh I learned a useful trick tho to shut the pingers the hell up. Thanks Lemming!
That will bring back alot of sanity to my live streams
I once snipped the top 1 inch of a T67 from 300 meters (or so) with my M4 105, that was so awesome.
I use the 105 on my M4 and that sounds like it was a hell of a shot. A great big noise, a round you can count the seconds to as it goes downrange, and a dispersal that makes hitting a Japanese heavy at 300 meters a truly great shot. What I really love is leading a tank moving laterally to me and hitting it . You really have to instinctively know how long the round will take to get to the target. You can't point and shoot because it ain't instantaneous I can tell you that.
B-but it WAS nerfed. Back when it was called T49, it used to have A FULLY COVERED TURRET. It's actually pretty bad nowadays
Cola consumable on a Tier 5 seems like puppy kicking. :P. Then again i have "Experimental Optics" improved equipment on my SU100 and with BIA it has 402m view range on the move >.>
What's wrong with a few epic free tanks in the game?
Great game LR! When I'm having a bad day I always go to my T67!!
The reason it’s still not nerfed is because any arty and actual derp gun at tier 5 and maybe even 4 can one shot it or at least leave it on about 40 health
The T67 is overpowered if you play it correctly, most don't.
Love your videos.
Cheers from Tokyo!
I would have to argue the OP. It's certainly not in the gun which a standard 76mm gun used on the M4 and E8, certainly nothing special about it. It fires relatively quickly but as quickly as Luchs or similar tank. It's penetration is so-so and it only does about 100 points of damage. It quick but not as fast as a clown car or even some light tanks so I'm not seeing the OP. Explain please.
Keep your dirty hands of my beloved T67!
AYE!!!!
For Empire go to H3 (behind that kidney formed stone), if people get on cap, you can poke them and you can snipe down the K/J Line very far. K0 is way too far in (and you wont be able to reset, so you forfeit having a definitive influence on win/loss).
The difference between me and LR is I play to make credits, not lose them trying to buy my way to the top score.
I have never liked playing the T67, but I have never played with a crew at 100%
Man I fucking love my T67. Still need to 3 mark it though, that'll be tough seeing as i'm shit with anything that isn't a Cromwell LOL
It might not be that the vehicle is OP. It might be that you're very skilled.
Naah it's op. It's just that it becomes good in the hands of green or better players while tomatoes fail in it
@@NotADuncon you can't fail in it. Camp spawn and you gonna be ok outspotting everything and making ton of dmg even if you lose.
Bad players will find a way to fail. Also there a few tanks that can still outspot you.
well, it HAS been nerfed a couple times. once with the TD nerf and once on its own with the hellcat.
I do like you blocking the tiger 1 for pinging the map to defend south, ignoring him, and later on being surprised that nobody went south.
And then dissing the Tiger as not being able to hold the south by himself. 5 kills suggest the Tiger did more than ok.
@@MicktheRock I think I'll be sticking to some of the more humble players from now on.
@@-tr0n that's why I like watching Claus!
@@-tr0n humility doesnt win games, if your here you want to win games. pick your priorities.
@@gashnal stopped playing again about 8 months ago. watching purely for entertainment and just getting tired of the cocky attitude.
TBH any tank is OP in Lemmingrush's hands! I suspect a lot of guys who played the unnerfed Hellcat moved their crews down to the T67 'cos the Hellcat became boring. If the T67 is nerfed and sucks, where are those crews goind? tier 4? high tier US tds are slow and....
Hi LR, great play in one of my favourite TD's (along with the E25) I feel that both are balanced and fun to play. I love these live commentary games and this was as salty as ever. Can you give your E25 a run out sometime please.
I'm T67 user.. has 2K battles in it and still counting.. I'm fuckin hate derp gun.. and this tank is shit in close encounter (when you got YOLO'ed).. But don't get me wrong,I'm not using it as a brawler or scout as so many player does.
You only use this tank as scout if you have no other choice and even it rarely happens.. sometimes I even let the arty spot for me..
The rest of it just find a good spot, sit and hold your balls tight and always aware of the movement in the map..
Peoples usually say "you're fast, go scout!".. damn it i have no armor and limited view range on the move.. moreover the turret rotate like his grandma pedal it over..
I thought at first the audio was running at x1.5, but I think too much coffee this morning?
i rember playing t67 with my 5 skill crew its really common to have very very good game
At the time im watching this the number of views is exactly 1/10th of your sub count
I just find that really cool
"Wargaming hasn't nerfed it so it's fair"
Laughs in E25.
:D
Most people who play the t67 suck at it, so that balances out the few good players who have mastered it. WoT is founded on the idea that match-ups are unequal and unfair, hence +/- 2 MM. You are a good player, so you could ROFLStomp playing a M3 Lee (which most people suck at, but has a good gun for its tier).
The T67 was nerfed. Its view range was killed and they did something to its handling soft stats. I 2-marked it a couple of years ago but it's not the same these days.
Dan Channer
gun handling was never an issue with the T67, the T67’s issue is disgusting camo and its 76mm machine gun.
view range is not too much of an issue because using binocs will basically fix all VR issues.
Even low tiers are entitled to their OP machine. Don't take it away from them.
DUDE.... The fact that most people don't know how to play that tank lowers their stats regarding WR and DPG. That doesn't mean the tank isn't overpowered.
I got you were being sarcastic later in the video.
"Now if you look at the south... Fuck"
11:00 So... as south you have to give up all map and fight in the tunnels. But because you are in the tunnels the enemy has to push into all campers. Ergo loosing all HP.
All playing in just 10% of the map. I'm glad I have this mode deactivated >.>
WG pls never change...
Wargaing XD
Lemming has counting skills, but his spelling...
That's another story. Great video as usual, though.
Christopher Wu i miss the old T49 turret on what is now the T67.
Also, WG should give the m5 stuart its derp back.
there are only a few people who can drive this tank - sad that they nerfed him so badly when he lost his closed turret and the ability to snipe on long range... you can get one-shot from lvl 3 tanks and up... there was no need to be so mean to this tank :(
I guess this is proof of why I'll never manage higher than a 2k WN8. I just don't have the mental capacity to handle thinking like this in a game outside of a set couple that I REALLY enjoy. Just never considered thinking about literally everything that goes on in a WoT match. This is crazy. I now know why there aren't any guides from many Unis teaching players.
I only just got the t67 and I absolutely love it
There's one mistake: you should not waste ammo by blindfiring everything. I three marked this tank and running out of ammo is a real problem with this tank.
What's weird is that as far I remember these games are quite average for my standard. But you are somehow way better player at high tiers.
Funny, in the second game the guy in the Tiger I did better than you expected, but he is on your blacklist so at some point he did something to piss you off LOL
Cheers!
Dude your sarcasm is spot on.
It has a good speed and has a turret and also has a good gun but the armor is made if paper
WarGaming also thinks BC 25t has too much ammo...
Please continue the list
It's a good TD but its knowing what to do with it that makes it OP.
Hey Lemming, did you ever play the T67 when it was the T49 with a closed turret? It was half as good again :D
This little bastard gets me every time lol big gun no armor
Not a big gun though. A mere 76mm, same gun standard on the M4 and E8 but yet no one complains about their guns do they.
it is overpowered until its spotted😂😂😂😂
Damn.. Always when I watch your videos I feel like playing some WoT cos you make it look like a fun game. But in the end, for me WoT is a cool game to watch but not to play.
You're smart you haven't been sucked into the suffering......
Is that feeling due to the fun-to-frustration ratio? Wot is like an arcady FPS...not at all realistic. But it's fun as heck!!! Except for when it's not. Then it causes me to rage and break things....I could have broken kb and mouse marks on the side of my turret as kill-counters for the number of kb and mice this games has cost me :p
@@sirpudd3554 I play on high tiers, 9 and 10 where the real tanks are. sure it is frustrating when you play arty, end up in city map, or your team has 10 basecamping heavies.. Or you face type 5 heavy that just spam HE, no skill needed. Back when obj 268 v4 was not yet nerfed, those were pretty big source of frustration too. now the game is just.. Meh. The lack of variety in content, maps and friends to play with tends to do that.
And by content I mean there's no long co-op missions or campaing, frontline is missing.. There is nothing but random battles. I only have about 8k battles, and the game is just straight out boring.
hepho wot is all about random battles in one way or another, I find that part the most boring. War thunder would probably be an upgrade from that, but meh. I found some other kind of interesting games. For the past 1,5 years I've been playing warframe mostly. I tried my hand at destiny 2 cos I got it for free, but it wasn't fun for longer than 2 weeks.
hepho i have a few years old laptop so I can't play the latest and coolest new games, so I'm just playing older games. Fallout 4 still works, and I did enjoy that game for about 1500 hours, same as skyrim.
The only good games from russian devs I really enjoy still today are S.T.A.L.K.E.R franchise.
Then I enjoy assassins creed games too, and as you might have noticed, all of these are huge open world single player campaing games :D
Most times with a T67 in the game I go AFK.
Btw lemming what keyboard ar u ysing ? The thing has a voice of its own.
I absolutely love T67, if WG nerf it I'm goign over to War Thunder.
Okay 1 minute into the video and i already have to say something: just because wg has the statistics of a tank, doesnt mean that they change or not change thing. Take the Is3a: solid 53% global wr, wg buffed it into oblivion bc it sold like the defender or the skorpion did
Hey lemming what server do you play on?
About 12 Tier 5 TDs. AT2, 60G FT, M10 and Ikv all have higher win rates. S35CA has highest dmg per game but T67 is second. Both the S35CA and SU-85i have better Frag numbers. T67 is head and shoulders above all other TDs for spotting. The T67 also has almost 600 million games played in it. The next closest is the StuG 40 Ausf G at 195 million games. The problem with the T67, and it is a HUGE problem is that it has no armor. NONE. It is vulnerable to even Tier 1 guns and HE shells absolutely wreck it. Just about any Tier 4 or higher with a howitzer will 1 shot it if they hit it. The gun accuracy is also a problem and the turret is slow. Give the tank to a new WoT player with a 75% crew and it will get destroyed. Still, it does very will when unicums take it out and club the baby seals. ;)
I have been playing WoT since 2011, but have played just one (1) game in the T67. In my first game I got 2700 dmg, 7 kills, 2365 exp. It was clear to me from that single game how wonderfully balanced machine that is.
Just stumbled across your channel and I noticed that you play on the EU server. Is there any reason for that? It seems like it would be better to play on server with better ping. Just an honest question. Also great video :)
Hey! Yeah I used to play on NA as I live in Canada, but I like gridding and the NA server has a peak of 27K players during prime time.
EU will last longer