THE RACE WON TWO WEEKS LATER! The Story of the 2003 Brazilian Grand Prix
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- This guy is leading! No- That guy is leading! This guy won! No- THAT guy won!
A glitch in the timing screens meant the wrong man won the race. But it was all resolved later on and nobody seemed upset the win had been moved to who it should have been on the top step. But had the red flag come just a few miles earlier...
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2003 is an underrated season and would be held in much higher regard had JPM/ Kimi won the Title
@@_CJ JPM also lost the Title in 2003 by spinning off in Brazil and poor Williams reliability in Austria and Japan (while leading the race)
@@_CJ JPM + 2003 BMW Williams was a fast but fragile combination. Juan was one of the few drivers to have the nerve to go toe-to-toe with Schumi at his best, but neither he nor his team could hold the challenge together. They should have won the constructors title but choked in the last race when they could have walked it.
yep the tyre prob killed it like in 2013
I wish I was old enough to have watched those epic battles
@@ProjectRaijin I was 8 years old. It was the first full season I watched
Finally! Someone covered the first ever Grand Prix I watched back in 2003 as a four year old And still to this very day nearly 20 years later
2003 was the first season I watched as a 6 year old, we picked a good year to get into F1 lol
**feels old for starting watching in 1998** 😅
@@ashmillermotorsport *same old as also started watching in 1998... on black&white TV for 3 full season*
You’ve been watching this race for 20 years non-stop?
My condolences. 😝
You’ve been watching this race for 20 years non-stop?
My condolences. 😝
Anytime someone talks about Justin Wilson it makes me a little sad. His death coming so soon after Jules Bianchi was so unfair.
I said this on the Monaco 1996 video, but Panis did have a fuel stop when he picked up slick tyres. He didn't need much as he had a full tank when he started and just topped up the tank. You can see it on the race if you have a copy
There was a literal car graveyard at turn 3. Long gone are the days of leaving cars on a track.
Thankfully! Had the wreck been moved, Alonso wouldn't have had anything to hit.
@@y_fam_goeglyd had Alonso been paying attention he wouldn’t have had anything to hit. 😅
@@AidanMillward he was lucky it never hit his head. Was very ugly
Outtake being cut out. Still funny tho.
There’s actually a couple of glitches in this one. Fml. Consider it behind the scenes.
Any time I hear that smooth piano opening, I know it's gonna be good
That and Schumi binning it mid Ted Kravitz piece is still hilarious to me and I dunno why. Those Marlboro Ferraris were just beautiful, and Rubens looked set to win but...
How can you be as unlucky as Rubinho at home... 9 or 11 DNF in Brazil with most being in a competitive position...
CART also mandated the hans device for ovals for the 2001 season and then for the entire schedule the next year. The madation was most likely accelerated by Oriol Servias Laguna Seca lawn dart crash. He was lucky in that one
Some oval crashes are freaking terrifying! Sadly I saw Greg Moore's crash, and I innocently clicked on a link to a more recent Indy car race which unfortunately was Robert Wickens' crash. I'd been a fan of his since his A1GP and F3.5 days. Glad to see him racing again in an adapted car!
The HANS device would have probably saved Gonzalo Rodriguez at Laguna Seca.
Lawn Darts are my favorite sport. I find all other competition simply diversion or activities.
Not really. When your category's biggest star at the time (Dale Earnhardt, Sr.) dies on the last lap of your category's most prestigious race (2001 Daytona 500) and the HANS device was something folks believed could have saved his life, that would explain why the American categories (NASCAR and CART) moved quicker to mandate it than F1.
@@ericbryant8196 The irony is that HANS would likely have been implemented later than F1 if Earnhardt had his seat belt properly set up.
I think it was the race where Eddie Jordan flipped the bird at the stewards. Classic stuff.
Canada 99 was Scumacher's last race error retirement before then (Silverstone was car failure), unless you count Germany 2000 at the start where he left Fisi with nowhere to go.
Brazil 03 was one of my favourite races and why we need to race in the heavy rain again.
Minardi had also fuelled Verstappen to the end. According to Paul "Gift of the Gab" Stoddart, it was the only time Minardi had set out with the target of winning a Grand Prix.
true story, also according to THE Minardi book "Forza Minardi" by Simon Vigar. Unfortunately the anti stall didn't kick in when both Minardi left the track...
@Minardimaniac you could argue Minardi have won Grand Prix... albeit under different names. Red Bull took over the small Italian team and called it Toro Rosso in 2006.
Vettel won in a Toro Rosso in 2008. Then under the current name AlphaTauri Pierre Gasly won in 2020. Both Vettel & Gasly won their respective races at Monza funnily enuf.
@@kevinprior3549 didn't gasly win in hungary?
Hello Aidan: I find these stories incredibly interesting. Thank you.
Fisicoooooo 😍 My favorite driver ever. I was 13 back in 2003 and I was so happy and yet disappointed like never after that race.
Completely forgot about that mess. I just remember Alonso getting decimated by that wheel. That's what sticks in my mind from that race.
Hi Aiden. Love these trips down memory lane. Im 43 and the first race I remember was Suzuka 1990 at the age of 10. Started watching again for Germany 2000 so you can see which driver I followed after that. Nostalgia sells it seems so keep up the good work. Cheers from Australia.
As a NASCAR fan in addition to F1, this race reminds me of the very first Daytona 500 in 1959 in terms of how the race was decided days after the event took place. In that event Johnny Beauchamp was initially declared the winner by NASCAR officials in a photo finish. Then 2nd placed Lee Petty (the father of NASCAR legend Richard) protested that & was given the win 3 days later after Bill France looked at the photo of the finish.
I had to record this race on VHS because I couldn't watch it live for some reason. When I watched it later, I was left speechless. Absolute classic race, as well as season!
I was seven, mom told me to go to bed as it started at 9pm. I watched it the next day on VHS and after that many times over the years. So happy that Kimi won and really sad when he lost it
@@Heksu99 imagine if Kimi had actually won this race, and hadn't got that penalty in Melbourne. Oh well, I'm over it.
But as I said, banger race, banger season!
Another oddity. Jos Verstappen, driving a Minardi, was trying a similar strategy to Fisi, again with the full tanks and Bridgestone inters. Only he spun off before he could make it work, and missed a chance for Minardi's best ever result, and was therefore set for a life of living-through-his-kid.
Oh _damn,_ that's a Butterfly Effect and a half!
@@legoferrari14 I'll just add....Jos's last team was Max's first, since Minardi became Toro Rosso. And Red Bull is just Stewart-renamed-twice, which Jos also drove for. Verstappen Sr. might not have got the results, but he certainly checked out the territory.
Aidan I wouldn’t normally ask and beg like this but since you’re now story-ing races can you do France 1999, which is the single most underrated race of all time?
Off to check it out on F1 tv, cheers 👍🏻
Thank you for mentioning Coulthard I remember thinking he got a bit shafted at the time.
Also, on red flags. I get the feeling that these days we’d be like alright clear up the mess and let’s get racing again? Even rather late in the race.
I remember reading somewhere that Minardi was allegedly gambling on a similar strategy with Verstappen's car, topping up with fuel & no-stopping on the off-chance the race would be cut short at the right moment. Apparently it could well have worked & resulted in Minardi's best ever finish, had Verstappen not spun off. If only.
I love that Pizzonia's picture has T3 on it as you're talking about him going off at turn 3
Great video as always and think you might have an interesting albeit tricky video to make - longest streaks without making an unforced error in a race - Schumacher 6/7 years simultaneously does not surprise me and blows my mind.
That was my first F1 race ever. Fell in love with the sport right away
Love you’re video’s man keep up the good work 👍
(in Lenny voice): early lunch and an Aidan Millward video-it’s a winning combination!
One of the best races I've ever seen (I was 13 and had to beg my parents to let me keep watching, because the race ended about 11pm CET), I'd definitely recommend to everyone who's interested to watch a replay ;)
Barrichello's bad luck at his home GP was really awful.
awesome video, remeber this well
I cannot be the only one vibing to the intro music every time 😂
I'm sure Ron having to give Eddie the trophy made him laugh for a long time
IIRC, there was much discussion in the commentary box regarding who had been in the lead and at what point. I seem to have a memory of them getting it right and being surprised by the initial result given. Having said that, I've watched so many races, only partly F1, that could have happened in a little known touring car race somewhere out of the way 🤷🏻♀️. Some things I remember like I'm watching a video, others... Some days I forget why I went in the bathroom FCOL! 🤣
I definitely remember thinking that a) Fisi should have won (probably because it was a Jordan and a Jordan winning, regardless of the opposition, was always going to override my more rational thoughts. You should have seen me when a Minardi got a point! 😂) and b) the whole going back 2 laps was a shitty idea which needed changing.
It seems that I was not alone because I have vague memories of it being changed to whoever crossed the line in first place at the end of the previous lap to the red flag, no matter where they were. That is unless they had crashed or broken down between the line and the red flag going out. I had thought that was unfair, but at the time it happened, there were a few drivers who would have willingly "broken" their car in a red-flag-inducing position after the required distance, particularly in the rain. So excluding those drivers was a good idea, if harsh for the most part.
I'm not sure when they changed it to the last sector, except for remembering that I was really surprised by it because I hadn't heard anything about the change. It's probably the fairest system, because - _I think_ - they still exclude those who go out between leader going past the last sector "mark" and the reason for the flag. Then again, I might have missed the point about today's rules... 🤷🏻♀️
Kind of fitting: the last Jordan win and the first win for the successor Silverstone team were both during batshit insane, storyline-laden races won by a popular veteran long overdue for his first win, thanks in part to clever pit strategy
Slight correction, you said the '03 quali system ..."was the best time over two sessions." Friday qualifying only set the order for Saturday qualifying, Saturday qualifying set the grid for Sunday's race. So really, only Sat quali counted.
He got it muddled up with the old pre 1996 quali system
Can you make a video about the Malaysian GP from 2001?
I remember that race clearly, don't why!, but I totally forgot the follow up, Cheers👍. god they make the rules more difficult than need to be!!
oh yes this race....i was still too young for this one but having watching it later i immediately thought of it after the Singapore investigation
9:42
"No."
Yeah, that’s getting cut out.
@@AidanMillward Nah, leave it in pls. 🤣👍
Great video as always!
The irony of this race was that Interlagos' Turn 3 is named "Curva do Sol" - the Portuguese for "Corner of Sun," and it was the single wettest part of the track in that fateful race, as well as collecting the most retirements from that race as a result. I'm surprised that that corner wasn't renamed to "Curva do Chuva" or "Corner of Rain" for some ironic banter.
one of my favourite races of all time
Good video Aiden
As someone who was in São Paulo last week the rain is no joke and the elevator is also no joke also I’m sure it’s the only one but you can access it by metro
Was this Fords last win? Phenomenal that they are still third in the all time engine manufacturers winners list, shows how dominant their engines used to be.
Their last so far until their potential return in 2026.
That engineer definitely got a raise
Off topic, you should do a video of nascar racing at Suzuka
Regarding Ferrari's slow start, they actually ran the F2002 at the first 4 races as the F2003GA wasn't ready yet, the F2002 taking its final win at San Marino. For Schumacher's first retirement due to driver error, I suspect you were being a bit sarcastic / humorous about his relentless consistency at this point but you weren't far off the mark, Canada 1999 is the only one I can think of when he hit the wall of champions. He had a couple of incidents in 2000 and 2001 where arguably collisions were predominantly his fault but the last instance of him just dropping it was Canada. Brasil 03 was indeed a mad race, it makes me laugh now with all the people complaining about the FIA and not being able to run a bath let alone a Grand Prix, this is nothing new, there have been controversies, dodgy penalties and inconsistent rulings since the dawn of racing. Embrace it, its part of the fun.
Last time a Cosseh engine won, too!
Given the rest of the story of the race; How very... Ford... that it wasn't a boring win
Until the next one if the rumours are true and Ford are returning in 2026.
I often wonder what would've happened if Webber hadn't have crashed and the race ran its full 71 laps. Fisi might've had to make a splash and dash as he said afterwards that his fuel strategy was "on the limit." I thought Raikkonen would've gone to the end on fuel as his car was tanked during his pitstop, but his much older tyres meant that Coulthard would've probably passed him for the lead. 3rd place is an interesting one and I reckon it would've gone to Villeneuve as like Raikkonen, he was also fuelled to the end, unlike Alonso and Frentzen. Incidentally, Frentzen went through the whole race without making a single stop.
2003 Williams is my favourite screaming banshe...er F1 car.
Fisi was my guy at the time, and I was absolutely gutted on the day.
8:08 There's a giant woman behind Rob Smedley.
Also: It may just be the way Aidan tells the story but Gary Anderson sounds like an arse to work for.
I remember watching live. Amd knew fishchella won. it was kind of obvious really didn't understand how the stewards fucked it up
@06:00 correction. His first driver error retirement since Canada 99.
Was this also the race that Rubens had a "fuel pick-up problem"?
Jos Verstappen could've won that race as well, he was on the same strategy that Fisichella was on but the electronics packed up because of the rain
Interestingly Jordan won 4 GP but the Irish Anthem was only played twice (Frentzens wins) in Spa they didn't have it so played gstq for Damon and of course this one had the wrong winner
the 2003 season is probably my favourite of all time ( m y o p i n i o n)
Didn't realise it was your opinion until you said, thanks
@@sergeantsupreme4395 yes, but you know how people are with opinions these days
@@MotoGPJournal fair
I would say Belgium 1998 would have been Schumacher’s last driver mistake before 2003
i would say canada 1999
@@tomcharlton586 oh damn forgot about that 🤣
Interestingly, McLaren had more wins at the end of that Brazilian Grand Prix than at the end of the season...
By the way, wasn't the first qualifying in championship order? The slowest cars would usually come at the end of the first session and at the beginning of the second.
Wait that dude raced with paralyzed arms?
It's the only Jordan win I don't have on video tape. I was going to press record but I decided not to because I never expected them to win.
Why no indepth discussion on alleged cost cap breech ? As a top F1 youtube channel I can't understand this, has F1 silenced the channels?
Had Kimi won that race he would have been the 2003 World Champion.
No, kimi lost by 2 points. Had Kimi been gifted the win, it have been 93 points for both Kimi & Schumi- but Michael would've won on countback (6 wins to 1 win)
It was a shame Fisichella didn't get the win on the day because that was his first win
schumacher crash mistake ha 2000 Germany, Austria, Monaco practice. 1999 Canada, Australia. 1998 Belgium, Monaco, Austria although he finished he was toe to toe with Hakkinen costing him at least 2 points. 1997 luxembourg, argentina. few of these might not be his fault but 1999 Canada was definitely his fault hence the wall of champions. if hill and villeneuve just crashed there the wall wouldnt be named as such. 1998 Canada he forced a car off track. you have a short memory. Also Coulthard led lap 52, Raikkonen lap 53 and Fisichella lap 54 red flags generally have 2 laps deducted the lap there are on and the previous 1 56-2=54 this has happened throughout f1 history imola 94 1st part. 7 laps were done only 5 counted
All the Fisichella content recently..... 😄
All two videos?
@@AidanMillward Hey, I'm not saying it's a bad thing 😅
He's a cult hero. King of the midfield
@@crystalracing4794 For me, personally, that title has always been given to the likes of Nick Heidfeld, maybe Hulkenberg until 2018. The Germans have always been okay at the B-Tier driver in F1. Your Glock's, your Frentzen's, your Ralf Schumachers.... etc.
I remember this as the one I thought for a moment Verstappen had a chance to win
You are not confusing with Jos Verstappen battling with the top guys in Austria 2001 are you? Was driving the orange Arrows.
In the year I was born the season started in Argentina! How old do you think your average audience is?
Or maybe you know, then please let me, too!
Yeah, I'm ok with Jerez '97 being classed as a driver error retirement. Michael did hit the wrong part of the car, after all.
People say Fisichella won a race in the worst ever car that won a race. Don't matter to me... a win in F1 is a win no matter what car you drive.
#JusticeForKimi
it was shit to have it changed then and we shouldn't ever repeat it
WEC went to brazil??
From 2012 to 2014
@@antoniopossidoniocamposnet1324 oh thank you
didnt Webber crash at the same place in WEC?
@@bjarulez he did.
@@AidanMillward I think he has a disliking of that track in wet weather, I seem to remember a few more incidents in the wet, Korea 2010 or 11 springs to mind
You got a right sense of humor with this video with the winner of the race being declared only officially after the race was done.
Sounds a lot like what happened on Sunday lol
this when only had inters
I quite liked the Jordan team. They struck me a being plucky and punching well above their weight. I'd like to think that Aston Martin could continue that, but Lawrence Stroll is no Eddie Jordan!
your eyes are so green millward
Wonder if we'll get the 2021 Championship handed over to Ham