The Real Presence of Jesus in the Eucharist
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- Опубліковано 19 жов 2024
- In part 1 of this mini-series, Keith briefly examines what the Catholic Church teaches about the "real presence of Jesus" in the Eucharist. Keith shows that this was the belief of the early Church. Why have Protestants rejected it?
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Thank you for quoting the Church Fathers and not just referencing them indirectly as a source.
“Did Jesus look different than any other man?” 😭. Love this! Thank you!
I tend to believe that the Shroud of Turin is authentic. True, there are a few stumbling blocks against it such as the height of the person imprinted. But, it is hard brush aside all the other evidence.
The reconstruction of the person based upon the Shroud is very interesting. It shows a man that it somewhat handsome with a gentle disposition. The likeness of the Christ has no bearing on faith , of course.
Well he looked unique like any human, so yes, though we agree he was plain in appearance.
More importantly we're not claiming Jesus wasn't a man and diaphysite Christology(the orthodox position which Papists and Prot's agree on) doesn't claim that Jesus had the accidents of manhood and the essence of God but that he truly had two natures as one person. So it would seem that whatever the Church Father's were intending to teach it wasn't transubstantiation.
Thank you pastor Keith Nester for spreading the real presence of Jesus Christ in the Eucharist that was proclaimed by the Catholic Priests in every holy mass.❤
I'd like to add a poignant point about my conversion to Catholicism: So many people seem to have had the most trouble with the Catholic reverence of Mary, as Mother of God and worthy of honor. It was actually this high regard of the Virgin Mary that was central to my embracing of the church. Fr Donald Calloway, in his beautiful book, "Under the Mantle," was the basic turning point for my being drawn into the truth of Catholicism. May I suggest that anyone who loves Our Lady or wishes a deeper love for and understanding of her read this richly gracious work; an obviously inspired labor of love. Brought me into the fold of the true Church.
Have heard that becoming a parent makes us draw closer to Mary or The Almighty God our Heavenly Father, certainly in my case it drew me ever nearer towards the Blessed Mother Mary. To God be the Glory.
@heartofpuregold when I'm meditating on the joyful mysteries I feel connected to both Mary and Joseph and I feel like being a parent is really what drives that feeling. The thought if the struggles and the joys of parents and the trials, obedience and dedication that Mary and Joseph both model is so humbling and beautiful. The purity and love of the holy family gives me great hope and motivation towards holiness.
@@heartofpuregold Beautiful reflection. 💕
@@isaiahtuckern amen praise God an uplifting comment thank you God bless You
@@normbabbitt4325 amen to God be the glory God bless You
The Real Presence is HUGE!!! Consider how the consecrated Host is treated: a.) it reserved in the tabernacle with a red lamp adjacent which is always lit. b.) The faithful are encouraged to visit and adore the Blessed Sacrament. c.) When one enters the Church, he or she faces the tabernacle, and genuflects. Why such great reverence? Because the Eucharist is Our Lord! Thus, the Eucharist is the source and summit of Christian life, nourishing and sustaining believers on their journey of faith.
Every time I go to mass, I notice only 10% take the wine.
WOW! Thank you, Keith! I have known this for a long time now, but you state it all so clearly. By the way, when I first "converted" to the Catholic Church I was baptized in an extremely liberal church, (1991 - 1993) Saint Francis of Assisi in Portland, Oregon. I ended up leaving Catholicism for a number of years, but I married a Catholic woman and she (Eileen) brought me to a conservative Catholic Church, The Holy Rosary Catholic Church in Portland, that had a daily Latin Mass, and I re-converted more seriously. My primary shock, regarding Protestants (my brother and sister, included) was how they so readily, unconsciously, and reflexively dismissed the special sanctity and worthy of honor and reverence Our Lady, the Virgin Mary. They all seem to revere Paul especially, but almost offhandedly minimize Mary's supreme role in the Incarnation of God on Earth. Seems bizarre to me.
Thank you for saying Protestants seem to revere Paul so greatly. Yes, he is to be revered but I sometimes feel they read Jesus’ words in light of Paul instead of reading Paul’s words in light of Jesus.
I agree with you! I have a friend who keeps bringing up Paul to explain something in order to dismiss the Catholic Church!!
@@GrandmaLynn Protestants say that Catholics basically worship the pope and hang on every word by this simple human being, but aren’t they also doing the same with Paul? I also feel they always tend to dismiss Peter and just mock him
This is so true.
@@EJ-gx9hl That is an excellent point! I never thought of that, but it is so true!
You rock bro. Setting it straight. Glad you are home. God bless.
Keith's channel is growing. I honestly put him in my prayers upon knowing what he left for the Catholic Church. Now his ministry is continuously growing! Godbless you Keith and may you continue what you are doing. All the way from Manila, Philippines
Watching from Cebu, Philippines.
Thank you so much!
Amen, to the real presence of Christ!!! Eucharist the bread of Life!!!!
“But what your faith obliges you to accept is the bread is the Body of Christ and the chalice the Blood of a Christ. St. TA
Amen, dude! God Bless you and your ministry, brother! Reading John 6 radically changed my life 3 years ago… today I’m discerning the Catholic priesthood and preparing to enter seminary next year! Veritas Vos Liberabit!
This is my body which will be given up for you. This is the cup of my blood which will be given for all for the forgiveness of sins. Do this in memory of me. “If you do not eat my body and drink my blood you have no life in you." I don't need much more proof than that. And the fact that the entire early church believed that very thing.
The entire purpose of Christ's life, death, and Resurrection was to leave us the perfect Sacrifice perpetuated throughout time and space that we may offer it to the Father for the propitiation of our sins. He established the sacramental life for the sake of our salvation. Thank you, Lord, for the Gifts beyond our understanding that You have given to the Faithful.
"He established the sacramental life for the sake of our salvation"---Sacramental life? Having faith in Christ saves you. Having faith in the papacy condemns you as you placed your trust and faith in mortal men and not Jesus.
@@timothyj52371 Timothy 3:15!
The Holy Spirit dwells in the Catholic Church since the year 33AD.
He guides her to all truth!!! She will never be destroyed, Acts 5:38-39! 2000 years have passed since then!
Deal with it!!
@@timothyj5237to parse out what you claim, all Catholics are condemned because they place their faith in a man and not in Christ.
It sounds as if you are the one making this judgment. Who has the authority to judge the heart of any man? Perhaps you feel in your self righteousness that you have this authority to decide who goes to hell. In doing so, you place yourself in the position of God. Now is that not placing one’s faith in a man?
Catholics don’t place their trust in Christ because they accept the headship of a pope, is also a part of that claim.
There is headship in our homes, namely, the man as the head of the household. His wife is to submit to his authority. The home is the domestic church where the children will first learn the ways of God and how to live according to His precepts.
God is all about order and structure, just look at creation. Why then would one suppose that God would abandon an ordered structure for His church? If God gives the Pope headship, it doesn’t take away from our trust in God. It actually enhances it. It takes a lot of faith to trust God to preserve His Church, through sacred tradition. We trust that God provided us the scriptures by the work of the Holy Spirit through the same Church whose members persevered in preserving it with their very lives. Some spending their lives hand copying the scriptures to reproduce them. You trust God to have worked through the Church to provide the scriptures by the power of the Holy Spirit. But you don’t trust that God preserved the Church. Yet you claim we don’t put our faith in Christ.
Perhaps you could consider your charge more carefully. The measure in which you measure shall be measured unto you. Come Holy Spirit, fill the hearts of thy faithful and kindle in them the fire of thy love.
Blessed to be in presence of Almighty Lord in Most Holy Eucharist. Nothing is more valuable than this Gift of Gifts.
Thanks Keith for this beautiful podcast on the Eucharist with references & biblical backup.✝🙏
Thank you for reinforcing the most important Truth About The Catholic Church. It is a Wonderful Experience to Each of Us when We receive The Holy Communion with Most Reverenc. May Our Lord Bless Everyone to get this EXPERIENCE Everytime We Receive THE MOST SACRED HOLY COMMUNION ❤
Blessing lgbt and staying christian?it is shame
Thank you Keith for your teachings. You're such a blessing to our Catholic faith 🙏! It is so needed!
Congratulations for spreading the real present of Jesus ❤❤❤
The first ark contained the word of God in Stone,the Manna that fed God's people. Mary's Body contained the Word of God Infleshed,the Bread of Life,Take and Eat 🙏
Mary is the new ark of the covenant!!!
Thankyou Keith for this explanation
So true
So many followers of Jezus left him because they refused the concept of receiving the body& blood of Jesus
I believe
Keith, great explanation and I know it will touch so many of our brothers and sisters and bring about understanding and conversion. God bless you and your Catholic ministry and proclamation.
Oh my God, thank you so much for this amazing video, I have been saying the exact thing not only to protesters but to Catholics and it truly heartbreaking 💔 knowing people don’t believe in this amazing miracle during the consecration in mass. I enjoy every single moment in mass specifically the consecration because Jesus Christ himself gives himself to us in every mass. I wish people can see and feel what I do specifically receiving the Body and Blood of my lord with humility and love. Thank you brother in Christ for making this awaking video I really appreciate it. I embarrassed and learned to love, cherish, believe, and defend my faith by coming across a holy priest from Venezuela about 4 years ago and I have been firm in my faith more and more. People please open your eyes not only physically but most importantly from the soul and true miracles will happen when you do, God bless you all.
Jesus had the most polite, earnest, and succinct way of saying "did I stutter?".
Wonderful explanation Keith God bless you … from Ireland ☘️🕊️🙏🏾
I have nothing to say other than thank you! ❤
AMAZING! God bless you abundantly, Keith!
🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻✋🏽✋🏽✋🏽✝️✝️✝️
Amazing to see so many views & comments in a 10 hour period! Reminder to give a thumbs up! 👍👍👍👍👍
Thank you, Keith, for a brief and powerful exposition on the Eucharist. If any viewers be in doubt, let them take heart and be convinced. Besides, we need our separated brethren and lukewarm Catholics to come to fullness.
I struggled with many battles on my way to Catholicism and this was one of the hardest for me to have full faith in. That was until like you said “study the early Church”, I could no longer deny the trail leading me to the one true Apostolic Catholic Church. I believe Protestantism runs quite heavy in the west bc it’s a lot easier to digest for a liberal society, that consume media and motivational speaking as the Truth. To be a Christian is to be obligated to searching for the Truth (Jesus Christ). I am so happy our Great God lead me to Pints with Aquinas. Your testimony has strengthened and redirected me to the Church Jesus Christ built here on Earth. I have shared your video with many of those I care for and I see the seeds have been planted. I pray God continues to Bless and keep you Keith! Thank you so much for the work that you do! Love from New Zealand ❤
Sirach 4:28 - Stand up for what is right, even if it costs you your life; the Lord God will be fighting on your side.
Thank you so much as a person who group Catholic, and has a long line of Catholicism and her family line with so many who have left it now. I’m going to use this every one of your videos to help people come back because they are more interested in fighting, then finding the truth, so I’m gonna lead them back to your videos. You know the Bible so well and I know that Jesus Christ is using you. Keep on going brother, you were doing gods work and Jesus Christ is King.
It is not nearly as satisfying, but prayer via holy hours would be my start in the process. But, you may do that already. In that case...
Ahem, I'm protestant and I preached the Real Pesence this morning! Great video, Keith, thank you.
Many Protestants know very little if anything about the church fathers. Lets pray for them and each other rather than feel the need to bash and criticize them. We actually have much in common (Jesus!) and should unite best that we can as believers in The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
Who’s with me? (Probably not many I’m going to guess)
@@MoonTyphoon-j4u Thank you for responding 🙏
He is trying to convert Protestants to the true religion. What’s wrong with that? They live in lies… based on a constant rebellion against Catholicism… how can that be a good thing?
@@MaryJo18 ….more adventures of missing the point. God Bless🙏
Your videos lately have been pure fire, man.
Thanks boss
Great and to the point !!!!
The Real Presence is definitely core to Catholicism. Awesome video Keith!
Can't wait to watch the series!
Man, you should become a Deacon. Deacon Keith! 😁
I can definitely vouch for this many years ago, I was invited to attend overnight adoration, which was led by a man who is known for his great holiness and reverence forGod
During the adoration, this young man had brought each individual who are attended adoration to stand before the blessed Sacrament now keep in mind. He is a man who is extremely holy, and therefore our Lord Jesus Christ has revealed himself to him and his face to him, even though I had been called to stand before Jesus, Christ in the sacrament , I could not see him, but I had a sense that he was truly present in there.
Wonderful presentation of the facts, regarding this miracle that is made available to us each and every day. Blessed be God forever. 🩸✝️🩸
Thank you, Keith¹
AMEN and AMEN! Thank you!
Outstanding 🕊❤️🕊
Amen brother! Well said! ❤
Praise the Lord Jesus Christ! ❤❤❤❤
Killed it again. Thx brother 🤝
Bless you Keith.
I'm an Anglo Catholic (protestant).
I've accepted this for years.
Praise His Holy Name
Not ashamed of lgbt blessing also?
@stassdanielsons4850
In the Anglican Church?
Because no Catholic priest is allowed to bless homosexual unions, only homosexual couples/individuals (just like any other sinner).
The major problem with Anglicanism is the lack of Apostolic succession aka invalid priesthood. Therefore they believe in the real presence, but don't actually have it.
You do not have the real presence!!! Sorry! Anglicans are not catholics!!!
Fantastic video. Good job, brother!
Many thanks Keith.
Those who left disgusted were the first protestants
Notice the verse number Jn 6:66! There are no coincidences with God!
Awesome and True. I agree 100% with Keith Nester. Amen! ❤
Another great video, my friend
Excellent- thank you! You smashed it. I love your absolute sincerity.
Excellent, Keith!! You really put the “dot on the i” in your description of the Eucharist!! Thank you!!
Thank you for all your work Keith . God bless ❤
One holy catholic church
Thank you brother! God bless u!
*Hey Keith :)*
Here's what you say to those who claim John 6 is "metaphorical".
If you look at the *Greek* whenever He talked about them "eating" His flesh, His choice of verbs became more and more "visual". "Phago" literally means "to eat" or "physically consume". The disciples take issue with Jesus' literal usage of "eat." So what does Jesus do? *In 54-58,* He uses an even more literal verb, translated as "trogo," which means to gnaw or chew or crunch.
Someone who speaks metaphorically doesn't use words like this. No, He truly was speaking literally, and was making it very clear to His disciples. And this is exactly why they left : They just couldn't believe it, just like the protestants do today.
If it was metaphorical he would not repeat the teaching 3 times. In the bible when something is repeated three times it is to highlight the certainty of the message. Truely I say to you... Can you think of some other triadic repetitions in the bible...I sure can but don't take my word for it ;-) 🙏
I had a Prot try to make exactly the point you describe. I had no knowledge of the words used in the Septuagint, and had no recourse. Very happy to see this explained, will try and find a copy of the Septuagint I can get for the original Greek
lol why wouldn’t someone who speaks metaphorically not speak like this?
@@redrkstonebecause every time Christ speaks metaphorically he says he is. In this instance he did not even when challenged if he was being literal or not … Jesus actually doubled down by repeating it.
@@enderwiggen3638 that’s obviously untrue. For example, in Mt 7:3-5 Jesus says “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.”
He repeats it three times, and never says he is speaking metaphorically. Do you think he is talking about a literal plank?
Love your ministry, thank you brother! You have strengthened my faith
Thanks!
Keith, thanks for this it blessed me. I came into Full Communion with the Church in 2022 and read your book “The Convert’s Guide to Catholicism.” Thanks for your story and passion about the Catholic faith 🙏🏾🙌🏾
My heart - the one thing right now in this moment has me walking away from Protestantism is the Eucharist.
Welcome home! 🙏🌹
Dear friend in Christ, keep walking away and toward the fullness of truth, which is only found in the Church Christ Himself founded.
Why on early would you walk toward people who don’t know if they’re going to heaven? That’s Catholicism. You earn your own salvation. Think you can do that?
@@tylerlee549 Another of a multitude of Protestant lies about the Church. The Church has never taught that. The Church teaches that we are saved by grace. Look it up in the Catechism of the Catholic Church, paragraphs 1987 - 2005.
@@tylerlee549 Your erroneous belief that you're saved by reciting the sinner's prayer and then can never lose your salvation is not biblical.
Keith, you are a very gifted speaker and teacher. Thank you for all you do, and may God bless you.
Jesus told us the bread is His body. Literally. The Wine He said is His blood. He told us. If you do not believe what He said you deny Jesus.
Worse than that! "He who hears you (Apostles) hears Me. He who rejects you rejects Me. And he who rejects Me rejects the one who sent Me" Luke 10:16
Thank you very much respectfully ❤🙏.
Holy Body and Blood of Lord. 😊
You always have thought provoking podcasts!
Keep doing the will of God my brother in Christ, you have a lot on your shoulder but it’s ok because the hand of God is with you so you can be this lamp to lighten lots of ❤ who unfortunately they’re still indifferent with the power of our lord Jesus Christ, gods ways are way different from men, and the way God thinks is way different from men , learn feeble men from the one who died for you and I, so you too can be saved, believe the one who is truth, the way to the fathers house and the eternal life, don’t be a fool with your own human opinions and your own believes that contradicts the truth of our lord and savior who clearly says that he is the true bread that came from heaven unless you eat my flesh you’ll not have life in you, my lord Jesus I believe I adore you and I love thee and I ask pardon for those who do not believe in your presence in this piece of host who do not adore you and do not love thee. 🙏😊🙌❤️🇺🇸🇵🇹✌️
Thank you for teaching these things . I love how you don't sugar coat things and just give it to us straight . Keep up the good work my brother!
One Baptism for the remission of sins
Thanks so much for this great video Keith, those quotes from the Church Fathers are incredible. God bless.
*Excelente Tema presencia real de Cristo *CUERPO, SANGRE, ALMA Y DIVINIDAD RECIBIMOS UN CRISTO RESUCITADO LUCAS **24:30*
Amazing explanation brother.
Im listening from the philippines ❤
Jesus told us we MUST eat his flesh and drink his blood. How are we to do this. The Eucharist. This IS my body. IS IS IS. PROTESTANTS don't know the meaning of the word IS.
Did Jesus take His own flesh and blood and give it to the apostles? Since He was present with them, such a thing is not plausible. His very presence makes it both improbable and impossible. So, the elements (the bread and fruit of the vine) of the memorial supper are the same now as they were then.
Sounds more like a Cain sacrifice/ritual than just simple believing in the lamb that was slain for us.
@jaypritchard7122 so interesting. The people of his day knew exactly what he meant. They deserted in droves. They couldn't "stomach" what he was saying.
@@rukidding-y2c and continue to read and Jesus calms everyone down and ends the sermon with.
“It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh is no help at all. The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life.”
John 6:63 ESV
@@rukidding-y2c “It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh is no help at all. The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life.”
John 6:63 ESV
An awesome ending
@@jaypritchard7122 Given that those who were there with Jesus, which was certainly not yourself, understood it to be his flesh and blood, might suggest you are mistaken. There are few things in scripture less ambiguous than the Eucharist, and Jesus' creation of that sacrament. It is certainly amusing observing the scriptural gymnastics some perform to refute its truth. Gymnastics born out of necessity because, let's face it, the majority of denominations that exist today began solely to contradict and destroy the Catholic Church. Such could never be accomplished by sharing the Catholic Church's teachings.
The very fact that you would apply your own plausibility test to God himself, may cause you to exercise some intellectual caution. None of the works that Jesus performed on earth were plausible then, just as they are not plausible now. That's sort of the point. If you're offering your take from a scientific viewpoint, then that its own discussion. If you're offering your take as a Christian, you might not want to consider the issue settled. There are certainly some things you're ignoring, purposefully, or out of ignorance. At a minimum, as this video teaches us, you are simply providing your own interpretation of Jesus' words as a replacement for the beliefs of those who actually walked this earth with Jesus. Which sounds kind of silly when you think of it like that.
You always have thought provoking explanations!
Eating His flesh and drinking His blood to be raised up on the Last Day cannot be symbolic, for this is essential to the core. Symbolic words would not have caused His disciples to turn and walk away or be a "hard saying" for the 12 to understand and accept.
Jesus calls the bread the manna that came down from heaven so it should taste like bread and the blood of God should taste as sweet as wine. Do people have a hard time accepting the Transubstantiation of water to wine? Yes, because the words Jesus spoke sounded a lot like cannibalism to those hearing them. That is why they "walked away" or it was hard to accept. But if one does not eat and drink as the Lord told us to then they have no life within them. They are dead to Him. Similar to the man who wanted to bury his dad then follow Jesus. He was told to "let the dead bury the dead"
Thank you and God Bless you, Keith! Very well put together video - and very needed for both Catholics and all non-Catholic Christians
The Catholic Church is 'Christ Focused' ...each Mass loves and adores our Lord Jesus Christ. We stand up; give witness; receive the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ - 100% for Real. God created the universe - its pretty small potatoes for the The Real Presence of Jesus in the Eucharist. We hear the Word of God - four Bible readings : normally one Old Testament; a Psalm, then a reading form the New Testament - and finally a reading form a Gospel and song. Oh, this reminds me of the very early church... ie the ones who knew the apostles and Jesus.
Well stated Keith! Thank you so much!!
After you said, ".. you need to go to confession," you got my sub! lol
Thank you so much Brother Keith
Rejection of the Real Presence is a sure sign of fake Christianity.
The truth body and blood of our Lord Jesus Christ is for ever Amen 🌹🕊🙏✝️🙏🕊🌹
Paul Confirms This
Paul wrote to the Corinthians: “The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not a participation in the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ?” (1 Cor. 10:16). So when we receive Communion, we actually participate in the body and blood of Christ, not just eat symbols of them. Paul also said, “Therefore whoever eats the bread and drinks the cup of the Lord unworthily will have to answer for the body and blood of the Lord. . . . For any one who eats and drinks without discerning the body, eats and drinks judgment on himself” (1 Cor. 11:27, 29). “To answer for the body and blood” of someone meant to be guilty of a crime as serious as homicide. How could eating mere bread and wine “unworthily” be so serious? Paul’s comment makes sense only if the bread and wine became the real body and blood of Christ.
What Did the First Christians Say?
Anti-Catholics also claim the early Church took this chapter symbolically. Is that so? Let’s see what some early Christians thought, keeping in mind that we can learn much about how Scripture should be interpreted by examining the writings of early Christians.
Ignatius of Antioch, who had been a disciple of the apostle John and who wrote a letter to the Smyrnaeans about A.D. 110, said, referring to “those who hold heterodox opinions,” that “they abstain from the Eucharist and from prayer, because they do not confess that the Eucharist is the flesh of our Savior Jesus Christ, flesh which suffered for our sins and which the Father, in his goodness, raised up again” (6:2, 7:1).
Forty years later, Justin Martyr, wrote, “Not as common bread or common drink do we receive these; but since Jesus Christ our Savior was made incarnate by the word of God and had both flesh and blood for our salvation, so too, as we have been taught, the food which has been made into the Eucharist by the Eucharistic prayer set down by him, and by the change of which our blood and flesh is nourished, . . . is both the flesh and the blood of that incarnated Jesus” (First Apology 66:1-20).
Origen, in a homily written about A.D. 244, attested to belief in the Real Presence. “You are accustomed to take part in the divine mysteries, so you know how, when you have received the Body of the Lord, you reverently exercise every care lest a particle of it fall and lest anything of the consecrated gift perish” (Homilies on Exodus 13:3).
Cyril of Jerusalem, in a catechetical lecture presented in the mid-300s, said, “Do not, therefore, regard the bread and wine as simply that, for they are, according to the Master’s declaration, the body and blood of Christ. Even though the senses suggest to you the other, let faith make you firm” (Catechetical Discourses: Mystagogic 4:22:9).
🤢🤢🤢🤢In a fifth-century homily, Theodore of Mopsuestia seemed to be speaking to today’s Evangelicals and Fundamentalists: “When [Christ] gave the bread he did not say, ‘This is the symbol of my body,’ but, ‘This is my body.’ In the same way, when he gave the cup of his blood he did not say, ‘This is the symbol of my blood,’ but, ‘This is my blood,’ for he wanted us to look upon the [Eucharistic elements], after their reception of grace and the coming of the Holy Spirit, not according to their nature, but to receive them as they are, the body and blood of our Lord” (Catechetical Homilies 5:1).
Unanimous Testimony
Whatever else might be said, the early Church took John 6 literally. In fact, there is no record from the early centuries in which the literal interpretation is opposed and only the metaphorical accepted.
“Drinking judgement on himself” isn’t even what the Greek says- it’s even more serious. It’s “guilty of the body and blood,” and the Greek word is associated with “murder.”
Great explanation 🙏
Good exposition, Keith.
Why have Protestants rejected it?
Response: Because they do not believe in and do not possess the sacrament of orders (bishop, priest and deacon) that is common to the hierarchical structure of the four ancient churches which claim apostolic succession, i.e., the Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox and Assyrian Church of the East. However, there are some Anglicans and Lutherans who do approximate the ancient understanding of the church's hierarchical structure, but there is no unified belief within their ranks.
St. Ignatius of Antioch, Letter to the Smyrnaeans, Chapter Eight (c. 110 AD):
"See that you all follow the bishop, even as Jesus Christ does the Father, and the presbytery as you would the apostles; and reverence the deacons, as being the institution of God. Let no man do anything connected with the Church without the bishop. Let that be deemed a proper Eucharist, which is administered either by the bishop, or by one to whom he has entrusted it. Wherever the bishop shall appear, there let the multitude of the people also be; even as wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church."
[Catholic Com /magazine/online-edition/apologetics-with-st-ignatius-of-antioch#:~:text=Let no man do anything connected with the,Jesus Christ is%2C there is the Catholic Church.]
Lack of faith. They don’t see how this is possible. I tell them it’s the exact same faith that tells you Jesus was resurrected from the dead and also ascended to heaven.
It’s the same lack of belief that many do not have faith in baptismal regeneration. Accepting Protestantism is easier than accepting Catholicism because there are far fewer claims. I am not saying everyone who is a Protestant has shallow faith, what I mean is what they are expected to believe and have faith in when it comes to doctrine. Also people naturally want to defend their own camp and never real question their worldview. That takes times there’s no good argument that just turns someone so to speak.
No, the early church also understood the Eucharist as symbolic, Clement of Alexandria states that, “The Scripture, accordingly, has named wine the symbol of the sacred blood”. He also says of Jn 6, “the Lord, in the Gospel according to John, brought this out by symbols, when He said: ‘Eat ye my flesh, and drink my blood,’ describing distinctly by metaphor the drinkable properties of faith and the promise”
@@redrkstone It’s symbolic AND real presence. Protestants only pay attention to the symbolism that’s it.
You’re ignoring all the other writings like what Keith put up on the screen in the video. Perhaps address that.
@@catholicguy1073 if it’s symbolically the blood and body then by definition it cannot also be literally the body and blood.
Keith is simply lying, there was a variety of beliefs amongst the early church fathers. Some said it was symbolic some that it was literal. Just like there is disagreement today
@@redrkstone ah so those written statements are lies? Is that your assertion lol
I could give you dozens
It’s symbolic because it’s a ritual. 🤦 it’s also true because we receive his body blood soul and divinity as Jesus said.
Besides bad reading comprehension you lack faith
No there was the faith that was taught as actual doctrine and it wasn’t various at all. In fact it wasn’t controversial in the early church. Everyone held to the real presence
Thanks Keith nice job!
Even Jesus himself stated this is my body eat it....then he said my flesh is true food. How many times does Jesus have to say we must eat his flesh and drink his blood to get it through their thick skulls.
He says it 3 times 🙏
Why is Jesus repeating a phrase proof it’s not a metaphor or symbolic? Is there a rule in Ancient Greek that says that?
@@redrkstone three repetitions in the bible highlights the certainty of the message. Can you think of some other examples of triadic repetition in the bible? 🙏
@@GirloftheValley- in Mt 7:3-5 Jesus says, “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye” Jesus repeats the phrase plank three times. Do you think he is referring to a literal plank?
The truth is Jesus may have been speaking metaphorically, which is why some church fathers said he was, Clement says that, “The Scripture, accordingly, has named wine the symbol of the sacred blood”. He also says of Jn 6, “the Lord, in the Gospel according to John, brought this out by symbols, when He said: ‘Eat ye my flesh, and drink my blood,’ describing distinctly by metaphor the drinkable properties of faith and the promise” (The instructor).
Keith is simply not telling the truth
@@redrkstone no Jesus does not repeat that teaching three times. Can you think of some other examples??
That was superb, full of love for Our Lord. Thank you for this. I pray this makes people of all Faiths look at the biblical teaching. To get you to understand this Jesus doesn't argue it, he doesn't. He wants you to have a deep faith, more than you can imagine. Check out all the Eucharistic miracles, so so many. Talk to other Protestants that became Catholic. God bless you
John Nelson darby invented the rapture!!!in the 1800s!!!
Thanks brother 👏 AMEN 🙏
Would love a video about how Protestants interpret elders, bishops, priests, pastors, deacons differently!
Thank you. God bless 🙏
ST. AUGUSTINE OF HIPPO
Christ was carried in his own hands when, referring to his own body, he said, “This is my body” [Mt 26:26]. For he carried that body in his hands [Explanations of the Psalms 33:1 (c. A.D. 405)].
I promised you [new Christians], who have now been baptized, a sermon in which I would explain the sacrament of the Lord’s table. . . . The bread you see on the altar, having been sanctified by the word of God, is the body of Christ. The chalice, or rather, what is in the chalice, having been sanctified by the word of God, is the blood of Christ [Sermons 227 (c. A.D. 411)].
What you see is the bread and the chalice; that is what your own eyes report to you. But your faith obliges you to accept that the bread is the body of Christ and the chalice is the blood of Christ. This has been said very briefly, which may perhaps be sufficient for faith; yet faith does not desire instruction [ibid., 272].
@KeithNester - this is a desperately needed synthesis and a terrific apologist tool! Thank you; It will be great to share (respectfully, using the Douay-Rheims Bible for the pull quotes would be an enhancement!). Pax Christi.
A Catholic church holds 2 services a day. There are millions of Catholic churches globally. Hundreds of millions of Catholics participated in sin by crucifying Jesus Christ.
Reading Catholic doctrine about the sacrament of the Eucharist gives me goosebumps.
They are not ashamed but are also very proud to participate in the crucifixion of Jesus Christ. Still talking loudly in carnal ways.
Hahahaha
@@God_my_Savior Jesus Christ spoke figuratively, which they understood literally, "eating flesh and drinking blood". It's so creepy and disgusting.
@@God_my_Savior Jesus Christ spoke figuratively, which they understood literally, "eating fl3sh and drinking bl0od". It's so creepy and disgusting.
@@sidasida4299 thank you for affirming all the Roman senators like Tacitus that judged the early Christian as cannibals.
@@kenbitph That's what Catholic doctrine teaches.
So don't drag Christians into it. You guys are not Christians :)
Beautiful
As a protestant, totally agree. Eucharist is absolutely the body and blood. But both the bread and wine MUST be given. As it is written: "Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day." That's why I'm more sympathetic to the Orthodox, Lutheran, and Anglican view over the Catholic one. Important quote at 9:40 and 10:05 - the Eucharist is to be received BY FAITH. Nice video.
Lutheran and Anglican don’t have the body or blood, so it doesn’t matter.
Lutheran and Anglican don’t have the body or blood, so it doesn’t matter. Also Eastern Catholics do take the blood.
The Council of Trent taught that when we receive either the host or from the chalice we are receiving the fullness of Jesus’ body, blood, soul, and divinity. Receiving both species is not required to receive the fullness of the sacrament.
So taking into account that the Catholic Church is the True Church founded by Christ, she also has the authority to declare that it is so.
@@MystoRobot Trent contradicts the Scriptures - and by extension the very words of God Himself - therefore voiding its teachings. For further evidence, reference the patristic quotes in the video. It is clear that the early church taught that both the wine and bread are needed for the sacrament. The Roman Catholic Church is one of the many institutions that are contained within Christ's church.
@@Thatoneguy-pu8ty Matthew 16:18 "Upon this rock I will build what I must call my church and the gates of hell will not prevail against it. “ Matthew 18:18 Truly I tell you, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven. By this Jesus gave the Authority to Peter the first Pope to speak for and to His Church to Discern and to Declair what IS. And we were ONE Church for 1,500 years before Luthers reformation.
Love this❤
Yes all of John 6 explains it all. Awesome talk.
Love this
Nice content, Keith!
100%❗Keith, this comment thread makes it obvious that you're right over the 🎯, so to speak. Keep preaching the truth, bro❗
I came into the church as a revert, after being a Protestant in my twenties. By 31 I returned.
Well explained.