This is a beautiful page...grateful that I stumbled on this channel. I know that just even by just sharing....hurts will be healed, souls will be saved.
Thank you for this discussion. I’m a time where we assume that we owe no one anything, especially when we think we haven’t been treated the way we think we should- this lesson on the 4th commandment reminds me why I am called to understand my faith deeply.
In some ways my parents were very perfect, and some ways very imperfect Catholics. I pray with deep gratitude for them, and pray my life here can make their joy in Heaven even better knowing their struggles with me turned out to be worth it. Your videos are Fantastic!
Forgiveness although we all desire it and as Christians should freely give it, is not a requirement to be received in order to be in right relationship with God. We are called to forgive one another as Christ has forgiven us. The fact that I don’t receive it, although likely very painful is not a requirement. The onus of responsibility falls on the individual and as the Our Father prayer states- forgive us our trespass as we forgive those who trespass against us.- we cannot expect to receive forgiveness from God if we are unwilling to forgive others. I hope this is helpful.
@@jenniferkyere8904 read the Bible verse though, it says if forgiveness is asked seven times, forgive seven times. It doesn’t say to forgive the unrepentant.
Yes, meaning that every time we are asked to forgive, we must forgive, but you cannot control the unrepentant person to seek forgiveness- they have free will. So we the ones who have been hurt have a choice to make- Jesus says forgive your enemies- forgive those who torment you. This is the most challenging because it goes against our human logic- Jesus tells us to deny yourself, pick up your cross and follow me. Some of Jesus' disciples grumbled saying these teachings are hard and stopped following him. Again, the Christian life is not an easy one. But if we believe that all things work out good for those who love Him, we just have defer all things to God.
Good question, Hidden, and good responses, Jennifer! It might help to make a distinction between forgiveness and reconciliation. To be reconciled takes two - both parties have to own up to any wrongdoing and agree to apologize and forgive. Forgiveness only takes one. I can - and must - forgive those who hurt me, even if they are unrepentant, even if reconciliation is impossible, even if they refuse to admit they did anything wrong. In those cases forgiveness is as much for me, as it is for them. There is an old saying, "To forgive someone is to set a prisoner free, and to realize the prisoner was you." I go into more detail in this video on precisely this topic: ua-cam.com/video/zuMH6lVfBPI/v-deo.html
I have worked with a lot of people who didn't have bad parents...they had monsters. Mothers that pimped out their preteen daughters for money or drugs. Dads burning and beating sons. Abandoning these children to the chaos and coldness of life with no guidance. These people are seriously damaged...and there are MILLIONS of them. They are dealing with addictions, self-harm, and su¡cide. The gift of life? They were given the "gift" of pain... horrible pain. Pain, you obviously don't understand. How do we "honor" people like that? You can be greatful for your life, but how do we as Catholics "honor" Evil? Again, the people who have experienced this are now the norm... not the exception. What is the Church's guidance for those who had Evil as their birth parent?
Excellent question, Holey. And thanks for watching. You are 100% right, I can't begin to imagine the horror of having monsters like that for parents. I have also known a number of people who have, including some who have fought their way to the point of being able to forgive their parents and move on, although of course they are still affected, and of course they still carry the wounds. In those cases honoring your parents amounts to no more than forgiving them and acknowledging that they gave you life. That's enough. They don't have to condone, or excuse, or rationalize the evil their parents did to them, or pretend it wasn't evil. No matter how messed up their lives are as a result, while there is life there is hope. I pray there is a time coming for them that will be better than what they are going through now. I go into this topic a little more in the video I did on forgiveness. Here's the link, if you're interested: ua-cam.com/video/zuMH6lVfBPI/v-deo.html
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This is a beautiful page...grateful that I stumbled on this channel. I know that just even by just sharing....hurts will be healed, souls will be saved.
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Thank you for this discussion. I’m a time where we assume that we owe no one anything, especially when we think we haven’t been treated the way we think we should- this lesson on the 4th commandment reminds me why I am called to understand my faith deeply.
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In some ways my parents were very perfect, and some ways very imperfect Catholics. I pray with deep gratitude for them, and pray my life here can make their joy in Heaven even better knowing their struggles with me turned out to be worth it. Your videos are Fantastic!
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Your help please. Where is the command to forgive those parents who are not sorry? We must be sorry for our sins to be forgiven in confession.
Forgiveness although we all desire it and as Christians should freely give it, is not a requirement to be received in order to be in right relationship with God. We are called to forgive one another as Christ has forgiven us. The fact that I don’t receive it, although likely very painful is not a requirement. The onus of responsibility falls on the individual and as the Our Father prayer states- forgive us our trespass as we forgive those who trespass against us.- we cannot expect to receive forgiveness from God if we are unwilling to forgive others. I hope this is helpful.
@@jenniferkyere8904 read the Bible verse though, it says if forgiveness is asked seven times, forgive seven times. It doesn’t say to forgive the unrepentant.
Yes, meaning that every time we are asked to forgive, we must forgive, but you cannot control the unrepentant person to seek forgiveness- they have free will. So we the ones who have been hurt have a choice to make- Jesus says forgive your enemies- forgive those who torment you. This is the most challenging because it goes against our human logic- Jesus tells us to deny yourself, pick up your cross and follow me. Some of Jesus' disciples grumbled saying these teachings are hard and stopped following him. Again, the Christian life is not an easy one. But if we believe that all things work out good for those who love Him, we just have defer all things to God.
Good question, Hidden, and good responses, Jennifer! It might help to make a distinction between forgiveness and reconciliation. To be reconciled takes two - both parties have to own up to any wrongdoing and agree to apologize and forgive. Forgiveness only takes one. I can - and must - forgive those who hurt me, even if they are unrepentant, even if reconciliation is impossible, even if they refuse to admit they did anything wrong. In those cases forgiveness is as much for me, as it is for them. There is an old saying, "To forgive someone is to set a prisoner free, and to realize the prisoner was you." I go into more detail in this video on precisely this topic: ua-cam.com/video/zuMH6lVfBPI/v-deo.html
I have worked with a lot of people who didn't have bad parents...they had monsters. Mothers that pimped out their preteen daughters for money or drugs. Dads burning and beating sons. Abandoning these children to the chaos and coldness of life with no guidance. These people are seriously damaged...and there are MILLIONS of them. They are dealing with addictions, self-harm, and su¡cide.
The gift of life? They were given the "gift" of pain... horrible pain. Pain, you obviously don't understand.
How do we "honor" people like that? You can be greatful for your life, but how do we as Catholics "honor" Evil?
Again, the people who have experienced this are now the norm... not the exception. What is the Church's guidance for those who had Evil as their birth parent?
Excellent question, Holey. And thanks for watching. You are 100% right, I can't begin to imagine the horror of having monsters like that for parents. I have also known a number of people who have, including some who have fought their way to the point of being able to forgive their parents and move on, although of course they are still affected, and of course they still carry the wounds. In those cases honoring your parents amounts to no more than forgiving them and acknowledging that they gave you life. That's enough. They don't have to condone, or excuse, or rationalize the evil their parents did to them, or pretend it wasn't evil. No matter how messed up their lives are as a result, while there is life there is hope. I pray there is a time coming for them that will be better than what they are going through now. I go into this topic a little more in the video I did on forgiveness. Here's the link, if you're interested: ua-cam.com/video/zuMH6lVfBPI/v-deo.html