We found an incredible LOST GUN CAMERA FILM showing air to air COMBAT in WWII !
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- In this episode of "Reel Discovery", join the Periscope Film team as they explore the fascinating story behind a "lost" reel of WWII gun camera footage.
This short was directed by Greg Tillman, shot by Greg Tillman and Rogelio Abraldes, and edited by John Squire.
Original gun camera film shown in the short: • WWII GUN CAMERA FILM U...
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This took my breath away. Olger is my Grandpa’s brother. He has always been remembered in our large extended family. My son wrote a report on his Great Great Uncle Olger a few years ago for school. Our last name is pronounced “all”, as in “all of us”. The Belgium Historical Society, where the memorial is located, contacted my Uncle regarding this video. He has been working with them for several years. My Uncle has since shared this footage with his siblings, and my Dad just shared with his kids. This is tremendously appreciated by “Aal of us”. In the most sincerest heartfelt gratitude, thank you so VERY much for the special work you are doing!
Wow! Wonderful! Thanks so much we are absolutely ecstatic that you've been able to share this with the Aal family. If you can share any other information please do via email to contact(at)PeriscopeFilm.com
Hi Jodie, This is Jon your brother Mikes brother. A Tom Kenevan just sent this clip to me. I second that- takes my breath away also. Not being a computer wiz, it's taken a lot of trail and error to get this far. Still trying to wrap my head around All this technology. U have to remember that grew up in the days when a Manuel typewriter and slide rule all we had. I would appreciate you sending a copy of the report your son made up. I have other reports on Olger that were sent to me having taken over Olger's memorial on Find a Grave. Sorry didn't get to the graduation party, we were all sick here.
Jon
I hope Aal the family is well! Sorry, I couldn’t help myself. From Rodney Davenport, 71, from 30 miles south of Atl, Ga. My dad was an MP in the fight against the Japanese. He made it home and passed at 65.
That’s amazing what a great story to pass down 👍
Your organization deserves a national endowment for helping to preserve history!
No, because they sell copies of public domain films. Those are free you know.
@PasleyAviationPhotography we've rescued over 20,000 films from destruction. How did we do it? By licensing footage to content creators. There's no crime in that and I think -- most sane people believe -- it's a worthwhile undertaking. See: ua-cam.com/video/yhJIIhxng_A/v-deo.html
@PasleyAviationPhotography yeah cause you know ppl like you fund organizations like this by the millions of dollars. Oh wait actually govt/public DOESNT fund things like this. Why? Humans are inheirently greedy selfish liars. So grow up you're on a rock going 64k mph through an infinite universe let these guys make some profit for the good work they do. And do u know where else u can get said "public domain" films? If no where damn right they should charge 4 labor and supplies to make and distribute these films
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@@PasleyAviationPhotographyYou are missing the point
I used to not like Periscope Films because I didn’t understand Periscope Films. Now I love Periscope Films.
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My late father passed when I was just 4 years old. A British national, he served in the South African army during WW2. I have his service record from enlistment to de-mob. Would loved to have spoken with him about his service in East and North Africa, but all that knowledge is gone forever. You guys do a great job!
Astounding that even after all these years, all these decades, we're STILL piecing together artifacts, unsung heros, and technology from WWII.
Too much history to handle.
@@mrvn000 not really. It's just things get lost to time or weren't well documented in the first place.
If you're here, I assume the study of history is a passion of yours. As such, I doubt the significance of this find is lost on you.
After nearly a century of documentation, how many more incredible relics like this are still out there?
I feel genuinely honoured to be one of the first people in decades, possibly ever to actually watch this treasure. Thank you and thanks to anyone who has supported this channel to enable events like this
Incredible the acetate film material lasted to this day.
That’s my grandpa’s brother! Thanks for uncovering this!
Wow that's amazing ! Can you get in touch with us and tell us more? contact(at)periscopefilm(dotcom)
Thank you so much for not only treating these pieces of history with the proper care and respect they deserve but also for finding the personal stories involved in these. History isn't just events or pictures, it's people and I think today you showed how important it is to remember who the people behind the cameras are.
I wish you the best in finding his family and hope that it reaches them someday. Heirlooms like that are precious to those with family who were in the War and it being treated with the respect it deserves is truly touching.
Thank you for loving and preserving history, not just the film footage but the people involved as well.
Any loss of history feels like a personal tragedy to me so I can only emphasize how much your project gives me some positive hope that the future regains the context of the past.
Godspeed guys, your work and passion is inspiring
Very cool! As a Norwegian, I recognized that surname immediately (Aal). It's pronounced "Ohh-l" (Like in the word "oh", but without the "H"). Lot's of Norwegians who emigrated to USA settled in North/South Dakota, Minnesota etc. In Norway, we'd write his first name "Holger". His last name basically means "chute" (as a chute in a river).
Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for your comment. We absolutely are convinced we're going to get this to Aal's family -- with help from people like you! Please share the video with friends in the Norweigian-American community if you can.
Not that it is important, but in Norwegian, Danish, Dutch and German 'aal' is also the name of the fish eel.
Hi! Thanks for adding this info about the pronunciation of our name and the meaning of Holger. "Holger" was my grandfather's brother ❤Last year I visited Norway for the first time. It's SO beautiful!
@@kimvibk9242 I've always loved that my last name, "Aal," means eel. Thanks for confirming that I got that right 😁
@@taraaal Takk for besøket , hope you had a good time here. 👍
Legends, you guys are true legends. We must preserve and share this history on film with the youth. Maybe just maybe seeing our past can save our future as a species
YES!
Olger is my Grandmother's 1st cousin. Our relatives shared this with us through e-mail. When I was 14 I was fortunate to visit his grave in Belgium with my family. Thank you for sharing. Olger has not been forgotten by many branches of his family tree and we appreciate you sharing a piece of his story with the world to acknowledge his sacrifice.
This should be a TV show! Excellent production and a fantastically rare and expansive inventory of real history
That's amazing. Digging that old crate out of the archives was like a scene from Indiana Jones.
I shared this with my friends in North Dakota.
Grandpa flew in WWI and WWII. He had some reels of file that he came home with. One reel that I really enjoyed was fill with P51 camera clips. So I took the 16 mm projector, the real of film and a few more and the World War III Belle, and Howell screen to science class in high school back in the 70’s. Well, I left all the equipment and that reel there overnight for a second showing, and the real went missing. I was devastated and my parents were really really ticked off at me.
There were more than a few ME 262 shoot downs, along with impossible explosions that the aircraft went through and obviously made it because they got the film back. Those young men went through treetops shrapnel, gunfire, and pieces of ME 109’s to get the job done.
22 years later when my classmate and thief grew up and came to his senses, he/she anonymously, sent the real back to where I was living in the same town. However, the World War II 16 mm type was destroyed as it did almost turned to dust. The rest of the rules we had sent to the Smithsonian still in the 70s to make sure that the footage was preserved.
Another famous reel that I really liked was some footage that my grandfather took in 1945 when he was flying around Mount Fuji after the armistice was signed. (he and his team are on the Missouri to film the signing by the way.) 41 years later, I found myself looking at the cockpit window at Mount Fuji and realized I was in the exact same spot. My grandfather had been.
Assholes who stole that from you…I hope they are reading this ..Low conniving thief!!
You guys are doing a great service in preserving history. Thanks for all your hard work🙏
Thats why I watch anything on the 8th air force from WW 2 ,IN HOPES OF SEEING MY GRANDFATHER,thanks guys
Wow imagine being a relative of this fellow. Didn't expect this to be so affecting
I'm a relative and definitely more affected than I thought I would be... really cool
Words fail me, this is brilliant as well as tragic! Great work everybody involved in this amazing work!
Lt. Quentin Aanenson flew the P-47 Thunderbolt for the U.S. Army Air Force in Europe after the invasion. He was profiled in Ken Burns's documentary of WW II. Many years later, he and his family produced a DVD of his war experience titled "A Fighter Pilot's Story." I purchased a copy. While I haven't watched it recently, I recall him saying during the documentary that much of his gun camera footage had been lost. Perhaps you have found some of his film. The DVD was produced in association with WETA-TV, Wasington D.C. The jacket states that it was produced and written by Quentin C. Aanenson, P.O. Box 30402, Bethesda, MD 20824. I think he passed away some years ago, but his family was still offering the DVD for purchase.
Thank you for all this terrific info. I watched "A Fighter Pilot's Story" back when it came out and was blown away by the stories he told. I think his documentary captured what that era was like more than anything else I've watched. In particular, I remember him talking about the feeling of strafing troops and horses with the 8 x 50cals and with the touch of his rudder pedals he decided who was going to be on the receiving end. He said it make him sick to see the results, but he knew it was his duty.
Periscope Films is doing a outstanding job bringing history like this back
Good work thanks guys.. from New Zealand. Both my grandfather's served in ww1 . Never forget! Peace bro 😊
Remember if you don't know history you will repeat history
With film, it can be an endless loop.
That statement is SO relevant in 2024!
Unfortunately, too many people are ignorant to history......
That means , repeat in not a good way!
@@bobbysnow5478 a fact and truth my friend that is what we are seeing in the Democrats party and friends and media and Hollywood
I have a relative that flew the P-47 for the 362nd FG. I have their unit history book.
This is so important. Thank you. Thank you all for helping them.
Amazing work men! Thank you for keeping these treasures alive and never forgotten!
Hey you guys, thanks so much.
I'm ex RAF and been following you for a while now.
I'm fascinated br the whole WW11 era, having family living in London and Serving at the time.
Not everyone made it.
You are doing something special...🙂
Thanks for your service in the RAF. Glad you enjoyed this and appreciate it. Take a deep dive on our submarine of filmic preservation at Patreon.com/Periscopefilm
Thanks!
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Channel format is like a 1990's reality show, without the drama.
What a great service to History...! Well done you guys...! Cheers.
Thank you for the SERVICES you do, keeping these records and experiences alive for families. My dad, whom I mentioned in another comment with out naming him, was James Donald "Pug" March. After serving on the Hornet CV-8, he was trained and joined the crew of a Consolidated "CORONADO" PB2Y four-engine long-rang flying boat as the bombardier.
For some time in 1943 they flew a number of long-distance overnight bombing missions, to attack ships of the Imperial Japanese Navy where they had been reported at anchor in island river mouths, inlets, and bays around the Pacific. They used Celestial navigation, and tried to time their arrival for first light so as to attack before the crew were all at their stations.
He didn't talk much about his combat experience; What he liked to recall were his pals and buds, exploring the recently-liberated islands, or cobbling together a makeshift sailboat from abandoned used drop tanks and parachute cloth, then tooling around the lagoon among the anchored ships and flying boats moored to buoys.
I don't know if there are any surviving gun camera films from those missions by the Coronados, But it would be mighty. interesting to find and view some.
One of his friends was a PB2Y pilot name Stan Mahoney, who self-published his autobiography *"I'm in Aviation Now!"* Stan was featured and interviewed in one episode of the History Channel series: *_The War Boats - the Flying Boats._* (episode 3)
The picture in that book shelf to the left of the gentleman that is seated is General Chuck Yeager and Jackie Cochran. During that time she was attempting to break some speed records. And when that particular photo was taken, she was bitching about the heat, and Yeager was telling her to suck it up! That footage you found, that is priceless now. What a find, thanks!
Wow good eyes! BTW it’s a signed photo - love the back story.
@@PeriscopeFilm Wow awesome thanks!
You guys do a GREAT job! Thank you so much! Keep 'em coming!
Cheers periscope films from the philippines!...old films are gold compared to todays pretty low quality contents. Appreciate your digitizing those treasures.
WE LOVE YOUR FILMS! Thank you so much!
Truely amazing what you gentlemen are doing. I’m an Australian (living in Sydney, Australia) and I’ve been a fan of yours for a longtime…
Didn’t realise how far you went with your ‘duty’..
Awe inspiring…
Congratulations
Christopher
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You folks are doing outstanding work!
Hopefully his family will be located and you can share this with them.
Well done!
Good save. My coworker’s dad flew p-47’s. I don’t know which theatre. He found a box of gun camera footage, in the attic, fused together by forty years of 140° heat. He recalled viewing them, as a child.
Sad story -- yes it does happen a lot. The Kennedys lost their entire 1930s/40s home movie collection when Joseph P. Kennedy's basement flooded!
You guys deserve to have a show on the history channel !
thanks for what you do!
Wow, thank you! We are happy to have fans like you !!
Thank you so much for preservation of these films.
What great work you guys do.
Seeing the tech mount up the film reel took me back to my projectionist days.
You people are doing great work!
Just want to say that what you guys are doing(especially with this particular film) is not only Awesome, but extremely pertinent here between Memorial day & the 4th.
Thank you for making the time to do/share this!!
Well said! Thanks so much
It`s time to pay tribute to all staff of Periscope Films, such a great, magnificent Organisation because their unvaluable and priceless job, bringing back all those footages coming from on board fighter planes in World War II, amog many other topics in the modern development of society since mid 20th Century, as well. A true commitment of labor and love for the history. Cheers, guys!!!. a salute and thank you, from Bogota, Colombia, South America.
My grandfather passed on to me when I was in my 20's his 16mm WWII war films Battle of Berlin in French and several other WWII films he collected and I have found them fun to view along with a old Victor 16mm optical sound projector and cameras he had that still work.
Amazing work you do
Thank you! I’m another member of the Aal family. Olger was my grandfather’s brother. We’re excited to see this. You guys are amazing 🙏💫
Wow -- it's just awesome. Thank you so much. Sharing with the entire team here.
My father armed and fueled P-51 Mustangs in Italy in WWII. He was in the 307th Squadron of the 31st Fighter Group. They would watch gun camera footage in a big tent at night. He recounted many dogfights to me with graphic detail. During this time, my dad was 19 and 20 years old, and most of the pilots were 21 to 25. They were indeed the greatest American generation up to this point.
Thanks much for this behind-the-scenes of how you guys do your work. I really appreciate it and it's nice to put faces to the channel.
Great work! Thank you. Hopefully you can locate the family.
Your channel has some amazing historical videos, but seeing this adds context to what you guys actually do to obtain and publish these videos on your channel.
I am so glad to have come across this particular video. I have been a fan of Periscope Film for many years now but I did not know what the organization was all about. I now have a much better understanding of how these historically significant visual tales have come to be. I started out by watching many of Periscope Film's postings of 1940's and 50's Indianapolis 500 videos. I was of the impression that Periscope Film was an archive of the United States Government. But, now I've an even better appreciation of your company knowing that, instead this is a private enterprise. I am very impressed with the work you guys do. Thank You! Tim DOB 8-6-1952
I really appreciate what you folks are doing in trying to preserve the history from these films. I hope you're able to connect with the family of Lt. Aal.
They did!
Wow !!! can’t wait to see
Awesome stuff you guys are doing...
I hope you find the NASA tapes too!!
With trajectory data on included
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Still looking for those lol -- although in theory they are videotapes so would escape our mandate!
Very cool you guys, keep up the good work!
My great uncle was 8AF, 94 BG , 332 SQUADRON ❤
thank you for doing what you do...Gods Blessings upon you...
🙏🇺🇸RIP, Hero and I most respectfully Salute you🇺🇸🙏
Thanks for all your work and videos guys love it
I have always enjoyed your films. Thanks for preserving all of this valuable footage.
Thanks for what you guys do.
Nice job guys. I have about 30 still photos from my fathers gun camera that cover I believe 3 missions in the spring of 45. He flew in the 27th FG, squadron 524. I only wish I had some movie footage. That is really rare.
The Aal family is probably in Fargo and West Fargo, ND. The family used to be in Williston. Go on lien. The current surnamed ones would be grandchildren.
Washington State actually 😉
Hi -- we're all over now (spread over different states), but my father (Olger was his Uncle) was born in Williston.
I passed this on to a friend who is from Williston.
Thanks for preserving these historical films,.
My autistic son absolutely loves your video on the big boy steam engine. Thanks for saving these videos.
I watch your videos as often as I can and I am subscribed to your Channel
Wow! What an honor to see this
I'd like to say thank you guys for what you have done..
Nice job guys!!
What a wonderful concept and idea. This is great. So much recorded history has been lost in time... Totally makes sense how people have always kept detailed written records of events, birthdays, gifts given, daily diaries describing daily life etc...before anything that captured images or videos came along.
Nothing escapes the grip of reality tv capitalization of"dramatic moment" and scripted questions I see lol. But then again, perhaps it would be hypocrisy NOT to record this :)
Thank you gentlemen. A wonderful thing you are doing here. I cannot imagine the feeling a family feels upon receiving video of a family member they never knew was out there. Blessings to you all!❤
Glad you "get" it! Take a deep dive with us on Patreon.com/PeriscopeFilm
Your organization deserves to run the films backwards.
Hey his grandparents came over from my country Norway back in the 1870's. Aal or Ål is a common name here. Very interesting story.
In the late 1970's I lived in New York City. There was a below-ground "jumble" shop in SoHo which was FILLED with hundreds of films. They were in ancient looking metal and fiber reel boxes, many with straps and buckles, stacked on the floor and walls, all the way to the ceiling. Some were huge... large diameter, and obviously 35mm. But there were many 16mm films, too. I don't recall what any of the labels were that I could see.
I always wondered what happened to these. I imagine that they probably got trashed somewhere after the shop closed.
More likely: Nitrate film is a type of film that was made from cellulose nitrate, a chemical also used in military explosives, and was used in movies from the 1890s to the 1950s. Nitrate film is highly flammable and can ignite spontaneously at temperatures as low as 120°F (49°C). It can also burn underwater and will continue to burn even if doused with water. When nitrate film burns, it releases toxic fumes that can quickly damage film that isn't stored properly.
National Science and Media Museum blog
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Nitrate film is also unstable and can decompose over time, becoming toxic. Signs of decomposition include yellowing or amber coloring, brittleness, and soft gelatin. If nitrate film decomposes, it can ruin the images it contains. To prevent this, nitrate film should be stored in temperature-controlled vaults away from the public, and any devices that could ignite the film should be kept at a safe distance.
My bday. August 3, 1944. Gotta love all those guy!!!
So many heroes,so little recognition.
INCREDIBLE STUFF!! Excellent work, Peri, as usual !!!!!!!
Thanks again! Please share it!!
Keep doing what you are doing guys, you are the best !
1:19 For those unfamiliar with WW2 gun camera footage, those cameras are pointing fore and aft in this cockpit of a P47 Thunderbolt. These were not the normal camera setup. This was specifically done to get footage for a documentary shot in 1944 called of all things, THUNDERBOLT. You can watch it right here on Periscope Films: ua-cam.com/video/kR6lWSIWUOA/v-deo.htmlsi=zEACL4mikCci1wMX
This is awesome!
After many years, I love this particular video. Please branch off to making these kinds of videos. You all did a terrific job.
If we can actually make these videos viable, we will ! Please share with friends -- thanks.
@PeriscopeFilm Oh I will. My grandfather would live on this channel.
Watched the other two behind-the-scenes videos. I could literally binge-watch this television show. Fantastic!
Thanks. ✌🏻👊🏼
Truly the coolest !!!!
Thank you Guys👍👌
Excellent, thanks for posting this!
I understand. Thank you for your answer. Good luck with your channel. Kind regards Newt
New history loving subscriber here from Melbourne, Australia 🇦🇺
Amazing.I CANT FIND THE WORDS GUYS.😊😊😊
Thank you!❤
You are doing some wonderful stuff.
I have only started watching this , and had to stop at the point where one of your guys showed the camera .
It has been some years now , but I used to help out with the Museum of Communication , here in Scotland , and we had a Vinten ( best known for making tripods and heads ) 16mm machine gun camera , which would have been fitted in the wing of a Spitfire , or other aircraft , in place of one of the machine guns , and activated by the same linkage that fired the other machine guns .
We never had any footage from any of these cameras , but it is my understanding they were activated along with the machine guns .
The camera will still , most likely , be in the museum's collection , but I moved house and have not been connected with them in some 25 years or so .
I sincerely hope you manage to get the footage to Pilot officer AAl's family , and if you have found the memorial , you have perhaps found a grave where he now lies ?
We don't have any Spitfire or RAF gun camera footage that we're aware of! We've seen R.A.F. gun cameras -- the British units were similar to those used by the USAAF but of a different make altogether.
It's neat to see the people doing the work!
Thanks and thanks for being a sub!
Really cool guys I hope you find his relatives carrying on 😀🇨🇦
I'm looking forward to this rare find.🙂👍
Incredible task. Well Done Gentlemen.
Several years ago someone in the Imperial War Museum, London, found some gun camera footage linked to a then surviving ex-RAF pilot. He was presented with a copy of the film which he later showed at the Sailing Club. Along with his Log books it was a most interesting evening. Apparently he was trained at a flying school in the neutral USA, before coming back to England to fly with a front line squadron, firstly in Spitfires and later in Mustangs.
The films showed how he messed up many parked aircraft, trains and vehicles.
As he said he was lucky to survive, so many of his flying school class did not.
Wow, what incredible footage, I never knew there were gun cameras back then.
You guys are the real deal
Love and light from Liverpool 👏📚☘️🇺🇸🤝🇬🇧⚽️🗞️