Netflix The Witcher Critique | A Mediocre Disappointment
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- Netflix , The Witcher had tons of potential to be great, instead it squanders most of it, to be a safe product. Its many problems are analysed in this video.
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"Mediocre disappointment" is far too generous for this absolute garbage fire of a show.
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The witcher 3 all the way, if focusing on the Books gets you THAT fucking disgrace, i'd rather stick to the games.
@@APathToTravel They claimed to focus on the books. But, if you have read the books then you know they one hundred and ten percent lied about accurately reflecting the books.
The show-runner actually had a quote where she claimed Geralt doesn't actually look at Dandelion as a close friend.
If the SHOW-RUNNER can get a basic fact about The Witcher that colossally wrong, then there was no hope for this fucking disgrace from the beginning.
@@silverformonsters5250 the show runner is so fucking cringe, she is adapting a series of books she probably hasn't even finished reading, and is willing to change character's looks only for inclusion
They should have just adapted the Last Wish book. Scrap the unnecessary Yennefer backstory. Don't make the timeline impossible to understand. There was no need to condense 2 books into one season given the high demand for Witcher content.
Want to know a joke? The show is 8 hours long and the entire Last Wish Audio book is only two hours longer... and now imagine how much faster you can show a story than someone reading it to you... that gives you an idea of how big of a screwup this show is.
I'm interested to know why you called the law of surprise, "stupid".
I know the show has used the idea of destiny to skip meaningful writing (which is unacceptable), however, if the idea is unique to this world, and sticks this reasonable definitions, i don't see a problem (that's part of writing stories).
Your critique is acceptable but it seems like a 1st draft because you make a good number of referencing errors.
And you also seem to not know much about the characters. For example, being a mother doesn't mean your compassionate and generous to everyone. Just your family (e.g. Cersei).
Wasn't Cersei such a possessive and manipulative mother for what i know?
@@julianapiresluciano9482 I think you're superimposing her interaction with others, with her children.
@@leone41ll well, i know she only loved ver children but for sure she was manipulative.
I actually really hate how they portrayed Geralt and Jaskier's relationship. I loved their friendship in the books, how close they were. Like c'mon, in "Last wish" Geralt says (in an english translation that I found) : "I'd sit on a scorpion with my bare backside if I knew it would help him". Plus, when he said it, it was mostly a matter of Jaskier possibly losing his voice, not (like in the show) his life. In netflix's show Geralt is just abusing Jaskier >:( Sorry for the rant, I just really enjoy how Sapkowski wrote their relationship, so it really bugs me that Geralt is being such an asshole here.
Try the polish show. They totally get their friendship right. It's on youtube with English subtitles.
Geralt... a proffessional monster slayer... looking for a monster that grant wishes where he is supposed to know that such a monster is dangerous and deadly and using its wishes only lead to woe. the point of geralt is that he supposed to know not to mess with things like that. its the reason witcher hate mages cause they are to reckless and witcher usually needs to work to clean up their shit.
Which is why in the book it's dandelion/Jaskier who finds it and totally by accident. And Geralt doesn't even believe in Djinns in that story because they're so incredibly rare and powerful. Yennefer and a Priest need to explain what a Djinn even is and that they come from the elemental planes. It shows that despite Geralt being well trained, he doesn't know everything and sometimes seeks advice from more knowledgable people. Book Geralt even listened to a few lectures at Oxenfurt from what I remember.
Once he realizes what Dandelion is doing, he warns the bard vehemently against getting anywhere near the monster, let alone try and find it himself...
Even the casting was terrible they made Triss look like Geralts grandma
The only great casting was Gerald, Jaskier, and maybe Ciri and Yennefer, otherwise they all look a bit off
TL;DR: It's a dumb show for people with no taste.
Here, have a sub ;)
The first Witcher game is more accurate to the books than the goddamn show. That first episode is what hooked people and ironically i think that was the most accurate one to the books.
They ruined my favorite books with some Woke female showrunner with no appreciation of the source material.
No way this is a mediocre show. It's the worst show I've ever watched, I can't think of anything good about it. Acting, dialog, CGI, costumes... just everything was horrendous. When I saw the rotten tomatoes user ratings I coundn't believe it. I thought it's some 4-chan trolling or something.
agree tbh I feel bad for Henry Cavill...
lmao in the books geralt never shouts at jaskier like they showed and they are good friends, both having saved each other's asses multiple times
Perfectly said mate! Btw where are you from I can't manage to pinpoint your accent but I'm guetting vaguely Scandinavian vibes. I agree completely with your complaints, and can tell you have just as many more as I do that you couldn't include in the video.
As to the story being fixed with better writing in the future seasons I think it might be near impossible, as they've painted themselves into a corner with the changes to some important characters and worldbuilding. That also implies a complete overhaul in the writing team or atleast the level and tone of the writing to begin with ( and one doesn't just turn into a competent writer overnight but who knows maybe they get three wishes from some Djinn), and it's already announced that they will add two writers to the team without dropping anyone.
Btw the like - dislike ratio should answer your question about Netflix possibly astroturfing all reviews and discussions to control the general perception of the show.
@@j-mr8343 yup, and even if it's not them, this video was posted to the netflix witcher subreddit and that's FULL of people who can't take any criticism of the "best show ever made" and continuously circlejerk any positive post/video/comment and down-vote everything else -_-
The good reviews are not from fans but people who heard that the original fans of the books and games were mad at the casting choices from SJW pieces and they (the people writing the reviews) decided to support the show because it was deemed "woke."
True nowadays people are afraid of being called racist if the decision not to put black people in a story based on 12th and 13th century European times... like cmon we all know there was not a single African or Person of color in Europe.
It was set in medieval Poland. You are 100% correct. Casting white characters as black/ arab is offensive. GMAFB!
@@pavlothekozak827 That's because when people say representation they only mean people in California. When people say feminism is about making lives for women better it's about women from California, not from the actually poor world. Nobody in California gives a shit about European folklore, let alone Eastern European or Slavic representation.
Even the claim that some people made that Witcher 3 is too white is insulting, considering that implies the entiretly of europe, which serves as the basis for the Witcher with rich folklore from Portugal to Russia, from Skandinavia to Egypt are all defined as "white" and nothing more. That in itself shows how arrogant these people are and how dismissive of any culture that isn't their own.
Representative my ass.
they tried to pack way too much into a season. it's like if they tried to turn game of thrones seasons 1-3 into one season of EIGHT episodes lol. literally every character feels like an extra, even geralt himself. if they were gonna pull this shit they should have just made it a movie, honestly.
The Witcher Season 1: an 8 hour prologue.
I'm so sick of fanboys drooling over Henry Cavill and refusing any criticism towards his performance. Cavill was trying way too hard to do a Doug Cockle impression, it was so terrible and ruined his lines. Really wish they went with someone else for Geralt.
I agree. It's insane how overrated his performance is, when even by clips here one can see his overacting and complete lack of any subtelty. And it's funny, because it usually boils down to "He is awesome because he is a nerd and a Witcher fan, he said it himself!" - as if this traits somehow make his acting skills better. This is so tiresome.
@@leeroyjenkins5962 yep, you can literally see how hard he's trying to deepen his voice/sound like Cockle, it's actually ridiculous. What's worse than the fanboys relating the idea of him playing games to his acting, is that Cavill and his agent are clearly pushing more of this "I'm a gamer" talk for PR... and the fanboys keep falling for it. It's working tho, considering how blind they are to any flaws in his performance. So sick of it honestly.
Joshington Agreed. I’m sure Cavill is a great guy, but his acting is just too monotone and forced. Geralt might be monotone, but he does it with style. Plus Cavill is just too clean for Geralt. I think they should’ve gotten someone like Nikolaj Coster-Waldau or Anson Mount to play Geralt.
@blinké Put the two right beside each other, and they’re near identical to each other. The voice is a different story.
@blinké All’s opinion to their own.
15:20 😂 and they wanna act like the games have nothing to do with it's existence.
aren't the games placed after the books?
Yet the games is what caused the show to be made in the first place because of its huge popularity.
Yes, the people behind this show deluded themselves in believing the games' popularity had nothing to do with its creation.
@@abdoul5176 yet even the books they claimed to be based on, the show didn't even stick to the books....lol
@@jesseomollo9405 Fail.
Great points all around. Especially when you talked about how hard it is to get a high profile writing job, considering how many good unknown writers there are.
For me, the most intriguing things about the world of the Witcher were that it was grounded and full of subtlety. Lauren misses that completely and so what we got looks, essentially like a wish fulfillment mediocre fanfiction written by a teenage girl.
The show often feels like a soap opera.
Coming back to the previous point. Maybe the industry is just doomed at this point. There's masses of passionate, skilled, talented people who would love to work on this production and seems that none of them were able to access it.
Almost everything feels out of place and how Lauren Hissrich was allowed to write this is completely beyond my simple mind.
And now in 2022, it's become worse. Thank you for this detailed critique.
This is a great analysis and an accurate summary of the many flaws of the show. Only is the statement that the aspects other than writing are bad. Sure writing is the most important part or why the show doesn't work, but shows can be saved at least to some extent by other aspects being great, like casting, directing, acting, costumes, set design and so on (GoT S4-7 and Mandalorian S1 are good examples of this). Basically all of these are mediocre at best and out right bad at worst. I mean look at the CGI of the ghouls or the dragon. Look at the practical effects of the stryga or the goat man. The costumes are obviously work of someone okish artists who couldn't make it in the modeling industry and so they handfist their ideas into medieval clothing.
The writing is definitely the worst part of the show...
Wow. So much stuff I didn't know about. I have only watched the show on Netflix and I didn't know half of all this, and things made no sense at all.
This is not even close to explaining how bad the show is...
1:59 wait what? XD how does he recoil back from that? you've been shot with an ARROW sticking in your BRAIN. you ever fire off an arrow from a bow? those things pack a punch! you're not getting up or moving any other way then to the ground after being hit by one in the focking head.. i tell you! we used to impale plush toys by shooting them into the air and then impaling them with a well timed arrow for practise. they'd continue atleast for 5/10 meters in the air by the sheer force.
Adapting a videogame is not a fair statement despite which was more succesfull. They may have (and they did) picked it based on the popularity of the games, but they aren't adapting a game (despite any inspirations for certain elements) and have no pitfalls associated with adapting games and shared with such adaptations.
Nevermind the finished product makes one question wtf they are actually adapting. 90% of your fair complaints would be erased had they followed the book narrative more. It feels like they didn't want to adapt the first two books and avoided doing so so much. Their inventions and additions are mess and the necessary cuts to allow for them made mess of the source too.
Hey. Great review. I see you're very new as a channel so I want to encourage you and say I think you have a good style.
The djinn part bothered me because djinn and genies come from the same root words but they are two different things
geralt would not end his friendship with dendilion... its a point that has come up over and over again in the books geralt get him out of trouble. geralts like dendilion very much for very complex reason. and now i realize why they didn't put dendilion in the Netflix show. they didn't want to upset fans about geralt "ending" his friendship with him.
I have to say this is probably the best video I've seen in months. I really like your approach in this review: how you decided to distance your critics from the books and looked at it from a more objective standpoint. If I had to point out a small gripe I would say your delivery seems kinda weird to me(probably because of your accent) but it didn't really detract from the overall review.
It's complete crap from an objective standpoint as well. Its special effects are incredibly bad, so are costume design and most of the cinematography. There's needless borderline pornographic nudity all over the place where it ads absolutely nothing. Same with blood and gore. It's just there for pure shock effect, it ads nothing whatsoever. Most of the monster fights are absolutely hilariously bad, the monster designs are insanely bad. The strigga was a joke, the golden dragon could be done better by any hobby modeler on a weekend (and happens to be wyvern instead of a dragon but hey, details). Ciri's entire backstory of her relationship to Geralt is broken and replaced by something that makes no sense and is boring as hell. Almost every side character's story and personality is badly written, badly told and often badly performed.
This show is bad on every level, ESPECIALLY considering the budget. It's ludicrous that anybody considers this good. But hey.. flush tits and gore at people every 5 minutes nowadays and they'll consider it great and edgy. I consider that trash.
irish? im catching some general non-locale urbanisms in your accent as well. makes it hard to place exactly.
possibly a transplant.
Dude where the fuck are you from and are there dragons there?
It’s mediocre as a programme, it’s veritably disappointing as a Witcher TV show if you have read the books, or played the games.
I thought it be better but no
I tried to watch it. Gave it the best chance- a marathon with a good friend, both of us Witcher fans. Ready to chomp down.
And it was... eh. The acting was like listening to carboard. The sets were bland, empty, and utterly uninspired. We struggled through a few episodes but it didn't get particularly better...
you got some valid points, but deliver is kinda strange
Books weren't that good, but the serie is far worse because they kept the bad sides but destroyed good sides
dude, im more than 2 minutes in and you arent giving a critique, you are giving a summary....
i only watched the first 3 episodes and thought they were insufferable. and you said they were the best ones, so i have no hope for the rest....
A yennifer se sacrifica no final com aquele mar de fogo.
Eu sei da infância sofrida e humilde dela
Mas quando q estabeleceram q ela faria um sacrifício altruísta?
Eu sei q ela vai voltar
Mas essa subversão da expextativa não tem uma carga emocional grande
Eu não vi ela em conflito para fazer algo altruísta
Não, ela só pensa nela
Ok, ela quer poder ter filhos, mas em qual parte ela pensa sobre o bem maior??? Pra se "sacrificar" no monte sodden
E tipo, eu entendo que ela tem uma personalidade forte e é poderosa, mas confiança não quer dizer que você tenque andar com cara de bunda e tratar todo mundo com ignorância.
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Infelizmente, o problema é que as pessoas lêm a Yen errado. Não conseguem ver o que tem por baixo do que ela aparenta ser. E a série está totalmente perdida também. Não fazem nenhuma ideia.
A Yen dos livros é muito complexa. É uma mulher que sofreu imenso em criança e que tem um trauma enorme. Ao ponto que ela matou a própria família. Isso faz com que ela seja uma mulher com uma tremenda falta de amor, de alguém que goste dela sinceramente. E como ela é muito emotiva, ela se transforma em alguém que parece muito fria e distante, quando tudo isso é apenas fachada. Serve para esconder todas as dúvidas e emoções internas.
Isso explica a relação dela com a Tissaia. A Yen dos livros tem uma lealdade cega para com a Tissaia. Porquê? Porque a Tissaia foi a pessoa que deu valor a ela! A única pessoa que sempre acreditou e sempre viu algo positivo nela. E é daí que a Yen tenta imitar a Tissaia, seguir as mesmas ideias.
Se você entender isso, entende também a história com o Istredd no livro, bem como o problema da Yen com o Geralt. É tudo a mesma coisa ;)
A Yen fica super na dúvida sobre quem ama ela realmente. O Istredd parece que gosta mesmo dela e isso é algo que ela precisa desesperadamente. O Geralt ela não sabe se é uma questão de atração física (porque feiticeiras e Witchers tem uma química mágica), se é apenas porque o Geralt vai com todas. Ao longo dos livros a Yen demonstra quase desespero em conseguir que o Geralt fale que ama ela. E quando ele finalmente fala que ama ela....a Yen entra em mudança. Ela deixa cair a fachada fria e distante e mostra mais da verdadeira personalidade.
Com a Ciri acontece algo parecido também e é bem interessante. A Yen no início quer treinar a Ciri mas exige que a Ciri confie e se entregue a ela. E no início a Ciri não gosta da Yen o que com certeza atinge bem mais a Yen do que ela admite ;) Então a gente vê no início uma Yen fria, distante, profissional, meio bruta. Mas quando a Ciri começa a revelar que pode acreditar e confiar na Yen.....tudo muda!!! Então a Ciri encontra uma Yen sincera, de coração aberto, de entrega total.
Tudo isso é super coerente se quem lê entender o passado dela e o trauma enorme que tem de infância. Existe até passagens do livro em que outras personagens falam que ela precisa da estrela mágica para ter estabilidade emocional.
Então, não é que ela seja egoísta ou má. Muito pelo contrário. Toda a frieza e distância dela é muito mais uma defesa emocional.
Há outras pistas no livro para a real generosidade da Yen. Tem a história do banqueiro que é leal a ela porque ela salvou ele ou a família no passado. Tem a parte que ela tenta colocar prémios melhores para os contratos do Geralt sem ele saber ;) Tem a parte de ela falar ao Jaskier / Dandelion que gosta dele por ser amigo do Geralt e por fazer companhia ao Geralt.
Tudo isso está nos livros só que as pessoas ficam todas presas na aparência e não lêm a história da personagem.
As aparências enganam!!!!
O próprio Geralt, um monte de gente fala que ele não tem emoções e tal......no entanto, todas as ações dele nos livros indicam o contrário :) Toda a história de ele não ter emoções, é uma defesa também. É uma forma de ele se colocar frio e distante para poder lidar com a morte e a destruição. E nisso, ele e a Yen tem imenso em comum. Ambos são personagens com fortes traumas de infância, que construiram uma personalidade que parece fria, distante, brutal. Mas no fundo eles não são nada disso. Nem um, nem outro :)
Eu acho que a série até teve uma boa intenção em construir um pouco mais da história da personagem. O problema é que eles também não compreendem a personagem. Então o que eles criaram de história....não bate certo com o que ela faz. E o problema é não entender a personagem. Por isso ela parece quase não fazer sentido.
@@Ruimas28 bem, eu conheci ela pela série, então devo ter entendido ela errado mesmo, porque a da série parece não ter um propósito e teve uma história contada logo no início então isso atrapalhou o mistério e a complexidade como você diz
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A série destruiu muitas das relações e personagens em relação aos livros.
No que respeita à Yen...é quase tudo errado.
A relação da Yen com a Tissaia é muito melhor nos livros. Nunca na vida a Tissaia dos livros é aquela bruxa assustadora que a série mostrou. A relação delas é mesmo muito próxima nos livros.
Não tem nada daquela intriga com o Istredd nos livros. Nos livros o Istredd é um feiticeiro que parece gostar realmente da Yen e ele anda atrás da Yen até o Geralt entrar na jogada. E mesmo depois do Geralt entrar, a Yen ainda demora um pouco para arrumar as coisas com o Istredd. O Istredd dos livros queria pedir a Yen em casamento :)
A Yen dos livros tem relações bem melhores com as colegas feiticeiras. Aliás, ela é uma das feiticeiras mais conceituadas e mais alto na hierarquia.
A relação da Yen com o Geralt dura anos antes do massacre de Cintra. É verdade que eles separam várias vezes e eles estão separados quando acontece o massacre de Cintra e a batalha de Soden. Mas eles tem muito passado em comum. Muito mais do que os 2 episódios que a série mostrou. Só para exemplo, nos livros eles vivem juntos na mesma casa por um período de tempo. E isso acontece mais de 1 vez. Sempre em casas da Yen porque ela é rica e o Geralt não tem onde cair morto :) A diferença social é um dos problemas no relacionamento deles :)
I agree with most, disagree with some, but the Games made it famous is an idiotic statement. Does all of eastern europe, russia, parts of central europe mean nothing to you? I know Muricans are like that but this is a very negative stereotype.
Plus, over 60 percent of witcher 1 sales came from countries where the books were popular. Over 50 percent for Witcher 2. The only reason Witcher 3 exists for you people is us readers buying these games when it mattered. I would not have invested in W1 were it not for the original works.
Alexander Yordanov I think there might be a misunderstanding here. I assume we can all agree this show only got made, because of the success of the Witcher 3 wild hunt. Regardless of the books success. Maybe, it wasn’t the only reason, the fact that GOT ended, could be another. What I meant by that statement was that one good thing to come from this show success and popularity , was that networks like Netflix, might delve into more diverse media, such as video games . “Might” is the key word there. That’s was all, it was meant to be a silver lining for the show success. It was not a slight against the books or the books popularity. You’re completely taken it the wrong way. I hope this clarifies. Thanks for watching and commenting
@@tbcoop This clarifies it. Thank you.
@@CharcharoExplorer I think you are overestimating the popularity of the books before games came out. I'm russian and I've never heard anything about the books before the first game came out nor have anybody in my surroundings. And it's not like we didn't read books. So it's probably fair to say that the games gave a pretty big boost to the books popularity.
@@NecroxProduction 60% of the Witcher 1's sales come from regions where the books were already out. This includes Poland, Bulgaria, Russia, Czech, Spanish, German etc. The only reason the buggy, lets be real, not impressive in 2007 game got a sequel is book nerds or word of mouth.
Witcher 2 had 40% of its sales from the same regions. The Anglosphere Western World still did not amount to much here.
I mean, I understand you didnt hear of the books first, but the only reason I gave CDPR money back then and even got other friends into the series in their darkest hour... was the books.
@@CharcharoExplorer and majority of the witcher games fan base never new about the books before the game. Most played it first then read the books. Especially from the witcher 3. Holywood could clearly see that. Not everyone who reads books would have been interested in video games. The witcher 1 by then was a small franchise, but by the time the second and 3rd one came out, especially the 3rd one, it's popularity rocketed to the moon.
i was fine with the show because i hadn't read the books or played the 2nd and 3rd game rofl. i was also not as mad as many others about the end of game of thrones. because my fav series is yet to be adapted :) the wheel of time. now if that sucks? then il'l probably jump off a cliff xD hopefully it'll be awesome when it comes out next year.
I hope they turn it around with season 2. I like to look at season 1 as a glorified prologue
A bit late but to be fair borch three jack daws was the dragon in the books to
19:25 ! Exactly, wtf were they thinking?
Geralt really sucks at his job
i wouldnt even say its mediocre its outright bad
They should have made Peter Kenny the showrunner. He understands more than her.
As a person who'd never known of the world of the Witcher - game or books - I watched the show completely naïve of it all ... and LOVED IT!
It made sense to me, it was easy to follow, and it gave me the ability to connect with the characters. Best of all it enticed me to seek out more! More about it, the books, and the game (No haven't played it but found out my son was an avid player and so he showed me it) So ok, I can understand that expectations of pre-show Witcher fans may have been thwarted, it is a pretty good introduction into the world!
However, that opinion may change when I've finished reading the books! 😉
That's great! I'm happy you like it, and that it pulled you into the Witcher world. Hope the books and games are just as fun.
I couldn't get into the Netflix series at all, but I guess it's just not for me.
Cw's the witcher.
Can't wait until they find out about berserk and ruin that too.