Important Nature Hike Tent Update : Wild Camping
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- A quick update in the Naturehike tent,
Issues in high winds solved, take care,
Issues with poles solved keep and eye on these,
New Cord for Tie Out Cub Cord
Turning out to be a great tent.
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I keep looking at this tent and wondered if it was good enough quality to hold up for a year or so. Nice to see that it's actually not too bad. The price is great and I've seen it in a lot of colors. Thanks for the updated video.
Hi Tac, Love the idea of the mid-panel pull out. Could you make a short video about how to make one of these please :-) Thank you very much.
Not at the moment too many projects on the go, cuban fiber shelters at the moment.
Oh yes please ! That would be great !
I was going to ask the same thing as I found myself in strong wind in this tent and it wasn't pretty
Hi..Thanks for the review. I checked and they now add side guy lines like the ones you added yourself. They must've seen your review!!! They also have different pole connections. All the best.
It's true! :) But that model with the added side guy lines are only for the 20d (grey) version. I hope there's also for the yellow and green ones.
im behind the times a bit on this one, but just wanted to say how brilliant your channel is, so informative and helpful...thank you
Dale Lad Daz many thanks for watching hope it helps :)
Looks like Naturehike copied some of your upgrades on the latest model. They also made it free standing with another hub at the back so it has 4 pole legs, not 3.
Thanks for the great videos.
I got one of these tents on the strength of your recommendation and I am really pleased with it.
I am not sure how much resistance whipped cord will offer to sideways forces, so I have slipped 50 mm lengths of 12.7 mm x 1.6 mm (1/2" od x 16swg) aluminium over the poles up by the junction. I bevelled the ends to protect the fabric and lightly crimped them with a hammer to keep them in place.
I am loathe to add the tie-outs as it looks like a really fiddly job, so I'll see how it fares in wind first.
Thanks for watching, tent has done me proud so far :)
***** hmm not sure there is some pretty big panels with out any tieouts, its an interesting design tho.
You have a couple of really useful videos on this tent, thanks for sharing your thoughts and knowledge. ATB
Cheers thanks for watching
Gary. I have camped almost on the exact same spot where your tent is now pitched. You filmed this at "Mendip Camp" LOL
Wiltshire Man yes awesome, I really like the woodland behind :)
Nice to know I recommended this one to my brother as a starter tent i'd never here the end of it if it fell over while he was inside lol still pretty funny
unusual to get good customer service your right. I got free poles from go-out-doors from damaged stock they had and they gave me the good ones which was really good and from fish-tec got some free stuff for damaged goods they sent me so maybe customer service is changing.
always handy to have a lot of spare poles :)
I know it's an old video but is still as very useful one.
Can you rember what you lashed your tent poles with?
Like Nature hike, 2 upgrades since this model. Even with the side pull I struggle in high winds. It now seems like they have added an extra pole supporting the side panel. Mine has lasted daily use for 6 months in the Scottish Highlands, going to see if it will last through winter. Slightly anxious, but I ain't got loadsa money to just swap it out. Atm very pleased with it for £96 but if we're to swap would now but one of the upgrades.
I think its good value for money, but if i am expecting weather i go with the hilleberg its saved my life more than once.
@@TacBlades thank you, researching Hilleberg now as aware of the cloud 2's pitfalls and will probably have to swap out this winter. Just bought new boots so waiting till end of Nov, payday :)
@@TacBlades Just looked, winter would be over before I have that kind of money :( My top budget would be about £300. During winter I stay in Bothy areas as am a member of the MBA, this way I can get by, spending Dec,Jan,Feb etc in the Highlands. If you have any cheaper suggestions.please let me know, been looking a while but my budget is a problem. Afraid to swap right now as sometimes better the devil U know. Thank you for your reply, wishing you a mighty fine day :)
@@jackj6361 have a look around i picked mine up second hand for £170 locally and it was like new.
@@TacBlades thank you for taking the time to reply. I was worried about 2nd hand but now you say that I will do just that. More worried about my nature hike failing as it can get pretty ruff out here and sometimes I am not able to pick a perfect pitching spot due to getting from A to B and the environment etc, thanks again.
Dude, i think they updated the 2018 version with the recommendations you made in this video! Kudos
Ron Olivar yes i think they have :)
yeah but only for the 20d grey version. I hope they'd do same thing with the yellow and green version too for these two are tougher I believe
They updated the latest Cloud Up 2 even more, adopted your additional wind rope connector and changed the pole to double Y shape (hence it's completely free standing) as well as a new ventilation on the smaller Y (leg side/rear of the tent). They obviously have watched your video. Good job mate. Too bad I bought 2017 version :D
Agung Nugroho its all good that they are updating better products for people :)
Yeah, it is nice that even they make "inexpensive" tent (and in this case a knock-off :-) ), they still listen to their customers' input such as your input. I put double quotes there, because it's still relatively expensive for me, but I got one. Do you still have this tent?
Agung Nugroho yes still have it and love it no problems with it :)
I hope you'd make a video review of the updated version too! Not about the new features but about your actual experience :D
Hi Tacblades (I've forgotten your actual name) I've commented before on how much I enjoy your videos and how much I've learned from them. I just had a question for you, I've recently bought the Cloud UP 2 but the 210T one, Being someone who understands fabrics better than me, in terms of waterproof/resistance, do you think there is a big difference between the 20D and the 210T fabrics?
I hope you're well and thanks in advance.
John James well t is tex and d is denier and 1D = 1T x 9 so 210T = 23D roughly.
Tac Blades That's great, I didn't know that, thanks. It's interesting that Amazon are saying the 20D is 5000 MM HH and the 210T is 3000. I might just give the 210T a coating of Fabsil gold to be sure.
John James it might be beacuse the 20D is silicone and the 210T i think is pu coated.
Tac Blades I think you're right, at least that's what I've heard one other person say. I just want be sure I've got a waterproof tent and I really like the Cloud Up 2, plus I couldn't really afford the extra £40. it's very well made. What's your thoughts on adding a vent to the Fly sheet? I'm considering maybe a flap style that gets pegged out independently.
John James check the latest models i did see one with a vent at the back.
crackin good tent ,to think the money i paid for the hilli akto i could have bough 4 of the hike lite.dont have the akto sold it few years back .love to know how u sewed those side panels on .great video thanks.
Thanks they are great but not 4 season :) i might do a vid on mid panel tie outs sometime.
Good stuff bet im not the only one who would like to know.for the amount of camping i do that tent would do me fine,i will never pay big money for a tent again especially when theres tents like the Nature Hike about,thanks for the reply much appreciated .
Hey, thanks for the review.Can you elaborate on what you used to build the side tie outs (fabric, thread etc)?All the best!
Any waterproof fabric is good 1.9oz ripstop nylon PU coated is fine. Thread i use guttermans Tera 60 thread, but gutermanns sew all would work fine. Grossgrain ribbon for the loop. Seam sealant to glue the patch on the inner side to seal it.
as you said this is a rip off of the big agnes fly creek 2, the BigAgnes has a large panel tie out, but it costs $549.99 dollars whereas this Chinese knock off is £60 or £80 for the 15d sil nylon one which ways 1.3kg
Hello,
Great review as always, and I absolutely loved the first video about the tent, but I must ask, have you had any condensation issues? I am in the market for a great tent that doesn't break the bank, and I am really looking forward to buying this one. I would greatly appreciate a reply, but I do understand that this video is quite old and that you may not reply.
In any case, I will most likely buy the tent, but I am just curious for future reference.
Thanks again.
I watched both your videos on this tent. They are both very informative and extremely helpful. THANK YOU! Have you seen any photos of the new hub design? Do you think it will solve the problem of the poles breaking, or do you think they will still need to be reinforced? Also, do you have any thoughts on the lighter gray version? Do you think it would hold up, or do you think it would be best to stick with the thicker orange or green models?
Thanks for thr comments. The new hub and curved top pole think will sort out most of the issues.
The grey is sil nylon and the others are PU coated nylon bith are good i think. Maybe the coloured ones are a bit tougher at the expense of weight.
thanks for the update video
umdmrlbro no worries :)
Excellent video, thanks....really enticed by material quality an weight.
question is how do you know which pole system you'll get? old one, (which snapped on you) curved one, or new rubber version? other than that....sold
I dont think there is anyway to tell unfortunately. Mine hasnt broken since has have been fine so far.
+Tac Blades Thanks, I'll re-post when it comes through...let everyone know which gets sent
hello,can you explain how you did the side panels? what strings ive used to attach the patch to fly and also can it be done with a normal sewing machine,thanks in advance
alexander neshev normal sewing machine is fine, its hard to explain, i take and piece of ripstop nylon, sew on a grossgrain loop, then fold all the edges in so no raw edges exposed, sew that to the panel then glue a patch with seamsealer on the inner to reinforce and seal any holes.
I was afraid I would damage the fly if I use a normal sewing machine.thanks and be well
hi tac u was actually wondering how the tent is doing now and if you have used it a lot.
Going really well, used it quite a lot, it makes a great lightweight tent with just the outer and no inner as well. No problems so far.
I have two naturehike cloud-up tents and I was thinking of replacing the guy lines with 275 paracord the 2.3.4 do you think that would be a good idea judging by your video I think it would be an
So i would say no to paracord because it stretches a lot when wet and also degrades in the uv of the sun. But if you can find polyester cord its ideal like throwline cord, also check out cub cord.
You can use paracord thin but you will have to adjust a lot when wet.
@@TacBlades many thanks
Great review. When you say you have lashed the ends, have you strengthened the pole tips, and with what? Or have you done something else that I'm not seeing inside the join? Thanks!
Just at the pole ends used micro paracord 0.5mm to whip the end, wrapping cord around the end to support it and prevent a catastrophic failure of the pole.
See vid at 1m 28s
Thanks for the review man, I have just finished a 4500 mile journey on my XR400 and my tent was great, but I was not happy as the packed size was about 5cm too long (about 48cm) and this was putting a strain on my small lightweight luggage (So I can ride off-road), it also meant that I could only roll the top of the bag once and although the bag stayed waterproof I would rather be able to roll it 3 times or so. Reckon this would be a good tent for my next trip? Thanks!
Cheers, if its the poles that is a bit of an issue but other things can be repackaged :)
The peg bag on this one is 39cm long
hi, good videos... would've never considered a Chinese tent, but saw your review and I think it will solve my tent problems for an upcoming trip. I was wondering in case the tent pole breaks while I am on a bike tour in some foreign country (maybe Japan) ... what is the best thing for me to do? should I head to some blacksmith or someone who can weld the break back or something? what do you suggest.
I will also lash the pole up as you have done... or at least what ever I understood from the vid. :)
Thanks for watching. After discussion with the supplier they have now changed the hub design and curved the top pole so this might be ok now, lash the ends. If i was travelling a distance i would find some aluminium hollow tube from diy store and take mabe two lengths of 8 inches, that can slide over the existing poles. So if one dies go just slide the tube over and duck tape the ends to hold it. Its bit more tricky if its at the very ends.
+Tac Blades cool, it is a bit tricky because here in India we dont have DIY stores but we do have stores where carpenters buy their stuff....so, that is where I will head. :) Thanks.
Very good vid!
many thanks :)
Great video!
Are there any instructions on to how to put up the tent properly?
The inner tent floor feels to short.
When I fasten the the sides connecting the hook in the inner tent with the outer tent the floor lifts. Is there a construction failure or am I doing it all wrong? Also I noticed that the first pole section on the long pole part got bent. Is this normal?
No setup video. The bent pole is the newer ones it reduces the stress on the hub, its a good thing. Not sure if you are setting it up wrong? Are all the straps open and loose before you start?
+Tac Blades Perhaps they weren't. I started out with the tent mat and then went on to the inner tent strapping the corners to the pegs. Should I perhaps wait with that?
Open all the straps and pitch with the footprint and outer only. Then when its good take off the outer loosen the straps and add the inner then outer again. It is a tight fit as there is tension on the poles, but it should lay flat on the ground, you can also stake the foot print to the ground.
Alright, Ill try doing that next time. Thanks for the tip ;)
Great review thanks for sharing. The tent comes with a 20d fly, what's your opinion compared to the one you purchased?
The 20d grey sil nylon one or the 40d pu coated one is about the same performance both good. I have done mods on both types.
+Tac Blades record speed reply! Thank you. I live in Tasmania where the weather is often compared to the UK so your reviews are quite relevant.
Hi mate so after you added the tie outs do you think it a good tent for the money i got a cheap tent from ebay tail burrow for £16 its like the vango blade i need to add tie outs to that tent same spot
Yes all good so far, love the tent now, the latest ones after some feedback now have a bit of a curve to the top pole which relieved the stress on the joint, and with the pull outs its a pretty good tent. Wish they added the tieouts as standard.
could i add a pebble on the inside of the fly and add cord on the outside or do you think that would weaken the fabric of the fly thanks for the help
+SCOTTISH WANDERER i tend not to use that type as it get wet it stretches and the its always an issue.
Did you ever figure out what the extra reflective loops with cord lock are for?
Ric Komarek nope lol :)
Hello, any chance of making a review for the Star-River 2? I find a lot of reviews for this Cloud Up, but none for Star-River.
Hi, i am also interest in that model, but i dont have one. Maybe in the future.
if the cord is 270 lbs . shouldn't it be ok for hammock hanging? especially if its doubled up on both ends?
No you need at least 5:1 or more common 10:1 strength for dynamic loads. Amsteel blue is best.
Where can I buy things to update this tent? (to strong wind protector - extra lines etc) and how do it correct?
Depends where you live in the world. In UK this is the cord i use. The other items you just have to find it online and make it yourself.
goo.gl/BF5Rw1
hi tac... i have had some issues with alloy poles cracking... as this is an old vid, have you had any issues with your repair since?
Tony Rimmington no they sent me new ones and they have been fine since about a year now :)
Just wondering if I really need to seam-proof or fabsil the whole tent?
Seam seal no as it has taped seams.
Fabsil i would recommend it as the fabric can wet out quite fast and hold water without it.
nice mods, how did you do the mid leashes mod? can you write step by step?
I dont have any plans to do that at the moment, but its basically sew on a patch then sew on a pull out, then seam seal.
3:58 the setup with the prussik looking strange. how do you tie that?
Its a farrimond hitch, one of the best friction quick release knots :)
How did the mid-panel tie-out work? Any leaks?
Gary Noftall nope the whole thing has been great since, especially in high winds :)
I'll have to make the same modification to my tent. I have a newer model with the slightly bent poles so I don't expect the same issue with the poles breaking. Nevertheless, I'll use some tubing to reinforce the ends at the hub. With a couple of simple modifications you get a Big Agnes Fly Creek UL2at 1/4 the price. If the 300g ounce weight difference isn't an issue (few people really care) , I think the Naturehike is a better tent..
What's the weight on this tent?
About 1.5kg :)
what did you lash it with? you don't actually say in the video!
mondo just some thin polyester cord, i think its called micro cord.
Tac Blades cheers for the swift reply mate, just wasn't sure what you used and was curious as I'm thinking of buying one of these tents myself.
hope it can deal with the torrential storms hear in tropical Q.L.D. Australia 😉
mondo no worries, i know others have put duck tape around the ends, the poles have been upgraded now with a curve in the top pole so relives the pressure at the junction.
What kind of sleeping bag is that?
Blakaveli its a rab ascent 700 :)
Tac Blades thank you
es las de 2 personas si?
I think it would be small for 2 people it is good for 1 persons. There is a 3 man version which is good for 2 people.
pero esta es la version para 1? o la version apra 2
This is the 2 man version. But with all tents if you want a 2 man buy a 3 man
Esta es la versión 2 del hombre . Sin embargo, con todas las tiendas de campaña si quiere un hombre 2 comprar un hombre 3
thnk you
just wondering Sir, are you still using it ?
Yes using it a lot, its my goto summer tent at the moment.
ok . was just wondering... i got mine few months ago and im really excited to try it out the two guidelines on the side are really needed ? thanks a lot for all your videos. i've watched a lot of them. you are making amazing descriptions of the gears you own. really good reviews. thanks for fast answer Sir
No problem, the side guy lines are only needed if you are camping in strong winds. Thanks for watching the vids :)
:)
Buy vango !!! 15yrs travel by motorbike !!! you cant go wrong with vango tent !!!
Vango make some good tents but not at this weight :( i would love to see them make sone ultra light ones.
It's a Chinese knockoff .
Yes big agnes.
Buy vango !!! 15yrs travel by motorbike !!! you cant go wrong with vango tent !!!
i prefer a lot lighter weight tents for hiking. Vango are fine but a 2 man for under 1.5kg or under 1kg need to look elsewhere.