How To Lay Floor Tiles | RONA
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- Tile can be installed over various types of subfloor. The most suitable materials for the subfloor are concrete, plywood and cement board. A plywood subfloor needs to be 1¼ in thick, which is the thickness of two 5/8 in panels. Another option is to lay a thin synthetic lath (about 3/16 in thick) if you don't want to raise the floor level too much.
Tools and materials you'll need:
- Bucket
- Chalk line
- Electric screwdriver
- Grout float
- Hammer
- Knee pads
- Measuring tape
- Notched trowel
- Level
- Pencil
- Pry bar
- Rubber mallet
- Ruler
- Small paintbrush
- Sponge
- Squarre
- Tile cutter
- 3 ½ in Floor screws
- Floor tiles
- Grout
- Grout sealer
- Joint sealer
- Plastic tile spacers
- Rags
- Thinset mortar
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To all the cry babies saying this is wrong.... How did they install tile before all of this cement board crap? Yeah, I thought so. Theres houses with 50 year old tile still in great shape. I have many apartments that Ive installed directly over plywood. Only one failed do to the tenant not reporting failed calking (no calking) and water rotted out the plywood. Only the 3 tiles in that area were affected, the rest of the floor was perfect and it was installed 15 years ago. You can do it but you have to know what your doing. I would say that in this video they didn't use enough thinset. There are some situations (like my aparments) where adding cement board, ditra, or whatever, would raise the floor way to high. Especially after adding tile on top of that. So you have no other option and lay on plywood.
I agree with you, I think the whole cement board is a scam, not only is it a job in itself applying, the floor is way too high.
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Couple of things you should note from this video.
- If working on plywood you should always dampen the wood with a sponge before applying thinset. This will prevent the wood from absorbing the moisture from the thinset and not adhering properly to the surfaces.
- A good habit to get into is to always "backbutter" your tiles meaning apply a thin layer of thinset across the back of the tiles before laying them. This will ensure complete adhesion and prevent future cracking.
i once put tiles down on plywood using silicone thinking "temporary" for a wood stove hearth, needed it for just one winter, i had to replace my plywood
because it wouldn't come apart. tried sledge hammer, pry bars, electric jack hammer, only thing i didn't try was dynamite.
One of the best videos thanks
Caulk the expansion joints?... You didn't mention any expansion joint until that last couple of seconds... What are you considering an expansion joint...
Nice job. I suggest to apply quartz primer first to the wood panels.
Don't you need to lay "Backer Board" down first, on top of the wood ?
Do the best you can with the resources available. Sometimes this includes messing up. Try to have lots of extra tiles for adventures like this. Some may break and others might lift up. Even when you do everything right. Stuff happens.
did you not seal wood with a wood adesive coat
Great video! thanks
Thanks, good video, the super expensive sub-floor folks won't like the secret getting out though, the cheap plastic orange sub floor is costing more than the tile! What scam of fear these guys have going. I should have bought shares in their company!LOL.
thank you.
I've always been told that due to expansion/contraction of plywood, one should never install tile directly to plywood subfloor; cement backerboard is always recommended. Thoughts?
Jim you were told wrong! It’s a big misconception!
As long as you leave expansion gap along the boarders of walls.
Your gonna come back once tiles crack and more than one, due to the plywood expanding and contracting, which it always dose, no bull, sorry
The issue here is wicking of the subfloor. They should have stapled felt paper to subfloor prior to tile installation.
If you use a thinset that can expand and contract like mapei ultra flex 2 it works well with exterier grade ply.I actually prefer it..
the ending should of been. now pick up the pay check and cash as soon as possible because tiles might start popping loose within a couple of days
Yes I agree you should have installed a backer board or wonder board which is practically a cement base and then lay the tile
Backer board isn't needed for a wood floor?
Thank you
Also what about backbutteribg tiles?
short and sweet...
waw very nice
Thanks bro
34 years in the tile business and I would NEVER guarantee a tile floor on plywood.
Richard Harris I wish u was in my area to come do a apartment unit for me
I have been doing tile for 20 years and yes you can do it, just make sure the plywood is solid, add some screws if necessary, then apply redgard , use thinset that is flexible and you are good.
Do I need to use backerboards on plywood subfloor?
perfect!!
Never install ceramic tile directly on a plywood subfloor. It will fail. Always use a CBU/Hardi/Schluter backer on top of at least 1 1/4 inch plywood.
He's trolling in this video... No backer board, tiling along the plywood line... Lol
This is purposely set to induce a control-joint line to be sealed as an example only, clearly waterproofing membrane is used as best trade practice in true wet area applications.
I'm no expert, but I thought you had to put something between the tile and plywood, cement board, coupling membrane. I'm i misding something?
You forgot Shluter DITRA to water proof and expansion .
Thanks for the video! About how thick do you spread the mortar, and do you hold the trowel at a 45 degree angle as some people on other videos I watched suggested? Thanks!
worst way to tile and grout always use bb or cement or shluter when you grout you press the grout in the grout lines and try not to spread it threw your tiles and making it easier to clean and avoiding grout discoloring amature
You started tiling where two tiles meet right over the seam of the two pieces of plywood that run down the length of the room. Should I even bother mentioning that the grout line right over that seam will crack all the way down the length of the plywood?!?!?!
Also didn't explain how he figures out where the chalk lines are supposed to be placed on the plywood.
You shouldn't lay tile directly on plywood either. There should be a fiberboard over the plywood.
Marine ply..
Marine ply is a nono I’m afraid. It contains oils and sap that discolour grout in time. Always put 12mm hardiebacker down over adhesive and mechanically fix down with plasterboard self tapping screws.
could you please tell me what kind of cement are you using?
3:38 fail
lay a what how thick if you don't want to raise it too much?
Where is the cement backing on the floor? Tile directly on plywood? Bad idea!
Is it necessary to prep the plywood floor for the tile?
Awesome video. Thanks so much.
Hm i was taught to never lay tile on wood, to always use the backer board?
where do i get a pair of those boots
I've never installed tile from the center of the room
yup, by doing it like that, you have to cut tiles for four sides of the room instead of two lol
You have to pay long level
full tile off the door though?
Max King there's a possibility for a tiny piece of tile on the opposite end of the room if you use this method. You want both tiles on the doorway and the other side of the room on the wall to be the same size. Looks a whole lot better trust me.
This wouldn't work on floorboards.
Hey y'all, don't lay tile on wood...use backer board or ditra mat
No hardiebacker no bueno... that floor cracked ...
That will pop tiles don’t stick to that wood without a matting
Never have I seen tile set on wood sub floor. Very bad idea.
No back butter, no keying in the thinset, no CBU, WHAT A FAIL
I did it too. This is what I used Woodglut designs for
great. Now you don't have to pay a guy a thousand dollars to put tiles for you. You can do it yourself save lots of money.
tonebeatz24 unfortunately he's doing everything wrong
Stodoys scripts contain most of the woodworking plans you can find.
That's one of the worst grout jobs I've ever seen, don't believe me, look at 3:38
Loool jeeze seriously incorrect... Should be using at minimum lath and scratch coat, better yet concrete board
Who made this video ???
I do not suggest ever laying tile on a wooden subfloor. It really doesn't cost that much to buy some hardiboard and will save you a major headache in the future when that wood expands and contracts and then breaks your mortar bed. I also don't suggest using a caulk instead of grout. To be honest I don't recommend this video at all
YOU DIDN'T EVEN PRIME THE FLOOR
wrong way to do this
Doing it wrong
Please don't tile straight on plywood, the movement in the wood will cause the tiles/grout to crack/come loose. You should pour concrete on the floor and then tile on top of it. Americans always have to do their jobs the cheapest and easiest way possible, but it won't pay of in the long run.
-concerned european tiler
Hi Mats .. Do you suggest making a concrete subfloor? what thickness? Thank you
Tile on plywood? Not acceptable at all. That job will only last few months
it will last realisticly years. but certainly not the lifetime of the house
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Stupid, dumb, just not right, or maybe its Russian dis-information, tile can not be installed over wood.........investigate their are many reasons why it is going to fail .. I have been laying tile for 34 years
NEVER let joints in the tile line up with joints in the substrate and don't mortar tile straight to plywood. WORST TILE VIDEO EVER!
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