For those trying to figure it out on the last part to get to the chao, I saw someone else's comment and it worked like a charm. When you get to the last rail, face Sonic torwards the camera (Sonics back against the rail) jump, then bounce, and he will go up the rail.
What is this sadistic sorcery!!???? 😲 HOW!?!? I simply can NOT clear this level, so far..hence, why I'm here. It took me months (of 'meh, stuff it!') after getting too frustrated to continue to keep dying, on the 1st ramp after mystic melody, until today. FINALLY got it, just to bouncy-bouncy, boing-boing around for over 1/2 an hr.. (so far!). I'm absolutely unable to get up the very last 'jump'. Mine just will NOT let me jump up (& CATCH the edge) like this does. AND, to make matters worse, I have to do it all again, just to get back here ~ 1 *_'succesful'_* jump/bounce away from the lost Chao. As if it's not hard enough already, some cruel, CRUEL person made this level ..gleefully leaving out a checkpoint between the first ramp after mystic melody & the last jump to get up to the lost Chao. Could they not just have allowed a 'normal' height for the last bounce jump!??!?? SO close, yet so very, VERY far............ WHHHYYYYYYYYYYYY!?!????!? 🤬😠😭😭😭😥🥺😞
4:08 Guys don't waste your with bouncing on the wall , just do homing attack on Chaos 0 prototype from the right or left , then press X to jump above . Don't attack from the middle because you might touch the glitchy rail and lose your chance of saving time .
At the end of the lost chao mission if you bounce then air dash into the rail you will go up it. By the way, it took me 12 minutes and something seconds.
You’re supposed to spindash towards the interior on the balcony and jump before you hit the wall. That way you bounce high enough to reach the second floor.
@@AkameGaKillfan777I really try to avoid getting an electric shield before the ring dash. It scares me if I do not get the time, screw up and have to start over again.
I say get the checkpoint next to the ruins before using the mystic melody, in case you fall off. For the first rail you'll have to jump dash off of it (remember you can't be holding any directions to jump off in a state where you can jump dash) once or twice to get up. For the final part I would honestly just suggest getting Super Bounce timing down to get up instead of the intended way.
I literally learned a speedrun technique while trying to get through that final room. when i reached that final room i decided it wasn't worth it to try and bounce or go up the rail. i had recently watched a SA2 without mystic melody challenge. in that video they used a technique where you spindash toward a wall and just before hitting the wall you would jump and then bounce. this move used the momentum from the spindash to make you bounce insanly high. i decided to give it a try and did it easier than i could have ever got up that rail. it only took me two tries.
For the love of me I cannot get up that first rail when you activate the ruin, I kept falling off and only tried searching when I was confused on how tf you get up... Still can't.
When you're on the rail, jump straight up (no directions pressed or else you'll just fall), then Jump Dash (jump again in air) in the direction the rail goes - that'll give you speed to scale it. You'll probably have to do it more than once, it's pretty steep.
@@TwoGamesJoined the bad thing that there isn't enough space to do a spindash on the platform to gain some speed but I've managed to jump and do air dashes until I finally did it
I'm playing on PS3 and got less than 4:30 and still got B. 4:08 did the trick for A. My advice for the final rail is try to bounce onto it, it's super janky and idk how it works, another comment says bounce than airdash into it but that didn't work for me, I think maybe if you hit the rail with the upwards momentum of a bounce you'll be able to ride it up?
Teo Cahoreau The only places you would absolutely need the Mystic Melody for finding the lost chao would be the Iron Gate (because the chao is so high) and Egg Quarters (because the chao is in a room only accessible via teleportation).
@@anexistingperson8540 Yes, but that doesn’t necessarily mean you can’t find the lost chao without Mystic Melody there. I don’t think you get taken to a hidden room via Mystic Melody at the Dry Lagoon. That other comment I made is rather old now because possibilities of finding the lost chao at the Iron Gate and Egg Quarters were eventually discovered.
did the 360 ports screw up the physics? I had this on the GC, played the hell out of it, and I remember being able to grind UP the last rail so why is it only sending me down?
Who's bright idea was it to give you an electric shield right before you need to light dash over a bottomless pit?
I hate when that happens.
@@finalhazard883 after clearing it, it's not too bad, you just gotta jump over the checkpoint.
@@DanielAyy I take damage on purpose to get rid of it
Like magnetic shield has so caused so many unfair deaths because having to light dash so i take a hit on purpose
A useful trick is to homing attack before pressing B so you can't do anything else until you hit the ground.
Also Yuji Naka
One thing I love about these Lost Chao missions is that you get to explore places you wouldn't normally on Mission 1's.
I agree!
Yeah it also makes a majority of your upgrades useful
For those trying to figure it out on the last part to get to the chao, I saw someone else's comment and it worked like a charm. When you get to the last rail, face Sonic torwards the camera (Sonics back against the rail) jump, then bounce, and he will go up the rail.
When the camera looses track of the player has also caused unfair deaths
*loses
im glad dying on these chao missions doesnt inhibit your score otherwise id never be able to do this one
Got it in a time of 3:56. Randomly managed to get the bounce high enough. They for sure did not test this section
If you continue pressing your bounce button after the second bounce you do it higher, just like pressing jump to do it higher
So time needed is 4:30, got 4:28 as a time after 36 tries, B rank..
That fucking camera
The timing of the last bounce needed to get to the chao is so hard. Sonic is always just below the ledge and won't grab on.
I know you probably already got it by now but I just Super Bounced to get up there, I find it a lot easier
@@anexistingperson8540 Yeah, I learned of that technique a while ago. I need to play this level again once I have the chance.
What is this sadistic sorcery!!???? 😲 HOW!?!?
I simply can NOT clear this level, so far..hence, why I'm here.
It took me months (of 'meh, stuff it!') after getting too frustrated to continue to keep dying, on the 1st ramp after mystic melody, until today. FINALLY got it, just to bouncy-bouncy, boing-boing around for over 1/2 an hr.. (so far!). I'm absolutely unable to get up the very last 'jump'. Mine just will NOT let me jump up (& CATCH the edge) like this does. AND, to make matters worse, I have to do it all again, just to get back here ~ 1 *_'succesful'_* jump/bounce away from the lost Chao.
As if it's not hard enough already, some cruel, CRUEL person made this level ..gleefully leaving out a checkpoint between the first ramp after mystic melody & the last jump to get up to the lost Chao. Could they not just have allowed a 'normal' height for the last bounce jump!??!??
SO close, yet so very, VERY far............ WHHHYYYYYYYYYYYY!?!????!? 🤬😠😭😭😭😥🥺😞
4:08
Guys don't waste your with bouncing on the wall , just do homing attack on Chaos 0 prototype from the right or left , then press X to jump above . Don't attack from the middle because you might touch the glitchy rail and lose your chance of saving time .
this helped a LOT
OMG THANK YOU SO MUCH GOT IT IN 3:47
This wasted almost all my god damn 20 lives and i still didnt find it
I think the time needed is 4:15 not 4:30
At the end of the lost chao mission if you bounce then air dash into the rail you will go up it. By the way, it took me 12 minutes and something seconds.
You’re supposed to spindash towards the interior on the balcony and jump before you hit the wall. That way you bounce high enough to reach the second floor.
Awesome video! Thank you! I seriously wish the Light Dash and Bounce Attack had SEPARATE buttons.
That's why I homing attack before doing it in midair
@@AkameGaKillfan777I really try to avoid getting an electric shield before the ring dash. It scares me if I do not get the time, screw up and have to start over again.
Just use the light speed remap mod on the PC version
1:39 sums it up pretty well
Why is it that my game only spawned a 1x life instead of a chao?
@@JM-kv2kn it only spawns a 1x life if you are not on mission 3
@@Blackpige0n so I gotta start looking for them on mission 3?
@@JM-kv2kn yes
@@Blackpige0n were you just trolling me? :( mission 3 doesn't have any lost chaos. I'm so sad I can't do those missions.
I say get the checkpoint next to the ruins before using the mystic melody, in case you fall off. For the first rail you'll have to jump dash off of it (remember you can't be holding any directions to jump off in a state where you can jump dash) once or twice to get up. For the final part I would honestly just suggest getting Super Bounce timing down to get up instead of the intended way.
IKR...Same! It's SO time consuming & frustrating if you don't clear the checkpoint!!
You'd have to actively try to miss the checkpoint anyway
I literally learned a speedrun technique while trying to get through that final room. when i reached that final room i decided it wasn't worth it to try and bounce or go up the rail. i had recently watched a SA2 without mystic melody challenge. in that video they used a technique where you spindash toward a wall and just before hitting the wall you would jump and then bounce. this move used the momentum from the spindash to make you bounce insanly high. i decided to give it a try and did it easier than i could have ever got up that rail. it only took me two tries.
Arguably the most stressful lost chao mission
Ok as hard as the space levels you make it easy
I got a rank B but had a time of 4:18??
I'm a year late but the minimum requirement for an a rank in this mission is 4:15
this mission is so hard!
This stage is so hard especially if ur trying to get an a rank on normal mode
For the love of me I cannot get up that first rail when you activate the ruin, I kept falling off and only tried searching when I was confused on how tf you get up... Still can't.
When you're on the rail, jump straight up (no directions pressed or else you'll just fall), then Jump Dash (jump again in air) in the direction the rail goes - that'll give you speed to scale it. You'll probably have to do it more than once, it's pretty steep.
@@TwoGamesJoined the bad thing that there isn't enough space to do a spindash on the platform to gain some speed but I've managed to jump and do air dashes until I finally did it
I'm playing on PS3 and got less than 4:30 and still got B. 4:08 did the trick for A. My advice for the final rail is try to bounce onto it, it's super janky and idk how it works, another comment says bounce than airdash into it but that didn't work for me, I think maybe if you hit the rail with the upwards momentum of a bounce you'll be able to ride it up?
Same thing happened to me on Xbox
Thank you, bro! You helped me!! 👊
thank you
That mission was hard because I forgot where the Mystic Melody was.
But I still got a A Rank. :)
Teo Cahoreau The only places you would absolutely need the Mystic Melody for finding the lost chao would be the Iron Gate (because the chao is so high) and Egg Quarters (because the chao is in a room only accessible via teleportation).
Aw arrogance is cute
@@cbsteffen Dry Lagoon is also teleportation isn't it?
@@anexistingperson8540 Yes, but that doesn’t necessarily mean you can’t find the lost chao without Mystic Melody there. I don’t think you get taken to a hidden room via Mystic Melody at the Dry Lagoon. That other comment I made is rather old now because possibilities of finding the lost chao at the Iron Gate and Egg Quarters were eventually discovered.
did the 360 ports screw up the physics? I had this on the GC, played the hell out of it, and I remember being able to grind UP the last rail so why is it only sending me down?
Could well be, I've been playing on Xbone and that rail just doesn't work.
Did anyone else cheat and use the Super Bounce glitch at the very end to get to the Chao? 😅
I lost 30 lives doing this mission. I hope the dev who added that awful section develops severe hemorrhoids
You're just awful at the level
Because hunters cant grind, i wasant able to reach the chao place with rouge. during the chao key glitch. but thanks anyway.
I got 4:29:62 and a b rank
Doesn't matter anyway because the next run i got sub 4 mins
@KIAN just get it under 4 mins
FUCK, IT GAVE ME A B RANK AND I BEAT IT IN 4:29.
Fuccc yah got it thanks
You actually had to lead the camera into the tunnel because it wouldn’t actually follow you the first time it went in. This game is a legit mess lol.
Theres a way to do this without mystic melody, and you dont have grind as many rails