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@@okipullup.. Perhaps, but I don't see the point in putting myself in a absolutely foul mood and spending around an hour on a mission that I can't stand. I can probably do this, but I will hate every second of it. If that's a skill issue, then sure
Just ran this for the first time through lfg! I’m a solo player and have pretty bad anxiety so I didn’t plan on actually completing this mission, but I watched this guide a few times and eventually got up the nerve to create an lfg post. I found a super chill dude who had run it multiple times and helped me a ton with the callouts and at any part I didn’t remember. Finally unlocked my exotic class item and I feel great honestly! Moral of the story, don’t be afraid to ask for help. 9/10 times the other player has had a similar experience with lfg in the past and genuinely wants to help others in their journey. (Just do your research before so you can complete it without a lot of issues, hopefully on the first try)! I’m going to take this small lesson and apply it to my daily life, hopefully if you’re still reading this it will help you out as well. Good luck!
Even with this comment, my anxiety is such that I haven't even opened Fireteam Finder. I have a friend who plays occasionally, but not reliably enough to help me with most things. I don't have much hope for completing this mission. I never use mic with strangers.
@@Daiarthaine65 trust me bro I know how you feel, sometimes it can be hard to even reply to comments like this so that says some about how tough you really are! I’m a firm believer that our comfort zones, while secure, can be the most dangerous things to us. Many people in history didn’t reach groundbreaking achievements while staying in their comfort zones. I believe that outside of that zone is where we learn and grow the most! I’m learning that if there’s something I want to do or achieve, not to let that little voice inside talk me out of it. Anxiety can be useful in some stressful situations and for that we are blessed, but I’ve found that most of the time it just holds us back from better things. Only by practicing stepping out of that comfort zone can we make those things that seem too difficult become less difficult and things that seem impossible now become possible in the future! “The man who moves a mountain begins by carrying away small stones.” -Confucius
34:30 - for anyone curious - he means in order to get a chance at farming chests for a particular character, you need to complete the mission on that respective character in order to unlock the ability to do so ON THAT CHARACTER - NOT that you need to complete the mission on all 3 characters in order to start farming chests on ONE of them. Hopefully that makes sense (for anyone who might misinterpret what he said at the end)
@@ben-64 little bit harsh, what cross said wasn't wrong, it was just worded confusingly. you do have to do it on all characters if you want to farm it on all characters.
Ah, so this is a horror story everyone has from that dungeon. I had one where we were stuck for almost an hour cos the guy couldnt tell ACW from CW and then went to make food after after about 15 minutes 😳
@@eklof2757 for me my play time is 1-8am I work from 4-12pm. I can't really be on mic in the middle of the night without it being obnoxious. Headset usually makes me talk too loud cuz I can't hear myself and people complain at me if I use the ps5 built in controller mic. So I just play alone.
Around 18:40, the 3 common lit ones are what you shoot. If you both call out the 3 totems NOT lit for you, then the 3 unmentioned will be the 3 to shoot. Found it a little easier that way.
I totally understand the fact that end game stuff should be hard to get. But that doesn't mean it should be a done only via teamplay. Bungie should have given the opportunity to anyone who wants a solo challenge. Besides that sense of accomplishment you get by finally getting it done solo will always be the ones to remember in a game like Destiny.
Nah the feeling and experience u have with a partner on your side is far superior. I am a returning player i havent played since 4 or 5 years. I came back with final shape and i did this mission with my old friend. Man we had a blast doing this blind together. Figuring everything out and mastering it was insane. Things like this u wont forget so fast. Its hard, its rewarding, its just a great coop ecperience. The light and dark theme...it just had to be a duo only mission. I loved it 👍
Idk how you people even exist, it’s a video game it’s not hard to talk to someone you don’t even have to see 😭 I get social anxiety if you’re like a waiter irl but come on lmfao
To all the people laughing about solo players not being able to do the content. I've spent the last couple days trying to find people for the convelance budding quest in several different places and no reply.... So it's not always a case of not willing to play with other's... So rather than laughing or mocking the solo players offer help... Do good for the community not belittle it. All seriousness tho i know this is the Internet and trolls going to troll so is what it is just wanted to put the first part out there.
Also some peoples wifi is so bad theyd rather play alone then try and struggle to keep a game together just because they need someone to help, thats my case anyways
you don't, once you've done it once you can farm pale heart chests for it and since your vendor upgrades are shared between characters i'm assuming dual destiny progress is too
@@dankerbell I don't think that's how it works. For example, just because you get an Expansion only Exotic for one character, doesn't mean you can get other expansion exotics for other classes to drop via random drops. You have to unlock the Exotics per character, meaning we will have to run thsi activety at least once per character.
Once you've beaten the level 4 bosses and killed the witch in each area, the exotic mission appears on your map ant stays there, its also available for all 3 characters straight away, whole thing takes about 30 mins each run ! Farmable.
This whole ass dlc is tedious AF. Prolly the most wasted time out of any one of them before it. It's not hard but boring and waaaaaay too long as far as unlocking the armor an weapons. I mean legendary weapons too, not even the good shit. Smh. I GOTTA stop falling for this shit. AND I PLAY SOLO! TF?! Would refund but conveniently enough they time gates this bs...wonder why....
@@Name-zd2nbI think you just don’t enjoy destiny. This has been the greatest expansion ever and this mission is great. Grinding for the legendaries is super easy.
They literally had a chance to get some expansions either free or 85% off not long ago. Making games isn't a charity. Any hobby costs money. Plenty of options for a temporary extra side hustle to make an extra $100 to get a new expansion if they want it on release.
@@synthetik_soul I remember when they said they’ll be making Dungeon free content because eververse pays for it, now look at us, double dipping with separate dungeons unlike Forsaken and Shadowkeep which came with dungeons
@@synthetik_soul The price point is hard to justify, with $100 you can buy an entire game or two. On another note, D2 is the embodiment of the sunk-cost fallacy lol
I helped a guy for over two hours on this mission, on the 4th attempt we finally got to the boss room, only to realize at the end of the encounter that the clock changes too fast for the other guy to see which they were, type them in, me see which was the one in common and type that one in. Sadly he didn't have a mic so we had to quit trying and I felt so bad for him. Thankfully, I have friends that are currently playing I can get in vc with to do it. If you mess up any on the clock it resets any progress you made so a brute force is near impossible. Let it be known that a mic is absolutely required to beat the final encounter.
As a solo player I was anxious about actually having to coordinate with a stranger but I just first time cleared it and got a Warlock class item with Apotheosis and Verity first try. Seems insane for a grenade build, appreciate the guide!
Same here. I never expected it to be easy, but I at least expected something fun and matchmade. This thing is just a joke. THANK GOD you only have to run this once per character but even that is gonna be painful AF
This whole quest is complete garbage and I don’t have a issue with LFG I’ve done everything they discussed all the overthrows and I can never get this damn witch to spawn this game truly is a joke and will not be involved in this franchise again after I get what I paid for in TFS
I stopped playing the game some time just before lightfall came out but every now and again I see some gameplay & I’m like holy **** a lot changed in just over a year lol
Yeh I’m tempted to hop back in at some point, the problem is I’m kinda enjoying playing a few different things atm & I know if I start playing again it will consume all my time entirely lol 😆 I think the problems I’ve had in the past is that they’ll make some good content but then shortly after there’ll be just a season where its just like “farm this lost sector x number of times” and it became such a chore that I first stopped playing during the osiris sundial stuff, played again for a while and caught up then ended up stopping again.
Final shape is a good DLC...for Destiny. But you compare it to other AAA games DLC's and you'd know how friggin much you'd be getting ripped off by Bungie in terms of actual content that you receive. Elden Ring's DLC is gonna completely overshadow Final shape, and you know what? GOOD
Before you do this you must have done all 3 areas and then do them again to spawn wizards if you haven’t done all 3 already (nobody says this in videos for some reason)
@@mckaysera4529 Ay I appreciate the offer but I've been burned far too many times interacting with the community so I'll just skip this exotic class item quest and bank on them adding an alternative way to get it
Yep, I quit the game and many other people who "don't want to socialize" will too. Doesn't matter if some think it's a simple barrier to step over, for others they just want to play a game on their terms, on their time. Sometimes the kid had an accident, or they got hurt and need a bandaid, or the wife needs my help with something. It isn't about socializing. It's about how absolutely inconvenient it would be to other people to play with my interruptions, which is the reason why socializing is hard in these games to begin with. It's literally to make sure I don't ruin YOUR experience with my immediate needs. This is why challenging solo content is perfect. If I need to run, I just quit the activity and help out. I suppose I can do that in LFG too and just make 5-10 peoples day worse in the process but wouldn't that be selfish? Instead of that, I'll take this as a sign that people like me aren't welcome and i'll take my leave here. I got to see L&D saga wrap up. Now's a good time to head out.
Bungie is afraid of W's. The Final Shape campaign was AMAZING but this mission is a nightmare. if they at least took away the timer I would be fine with that or add rally points. However, this being a timed, long ass complex puzzle, that MUST be done co-op is just madness. I am exhausted just watch the tutorial. 🤣🤣
@@dylanholm9995really not that powerful though. There effects are so specific on the majority of the rolls that it’s barely worth the effort to get them in the first place.
@@dylanholm9995 I've seen the perks on the class items. Unless you get an absolute god roll like Star Eaters with Apotheosis or something similar, they really aren't that valuable. And remember that some of the basic exotics are stronger than their versions of it on the class item (i.e. normal Swarmers is infinitely better than the one on the class item just because of the unravel. The class item version is so much weaker because of no unravel that Swarmers on the class item is actually a no-go). "One of the most powerful items in the game" my left nut. I'd rather run around with Celestial Golden Gun and the sniper than use the class item, especially after they nerfed Assassin's Cowl's effect (which was one of the only things I would've wanted the class item for on my hunter).
This 'live' quest guide is a really good way of explaining/showing what to do rather than the scripted guides imo. Would love to see more like this. Also enjoy the random discord chat from Jamie 😂
The hell u mean a lot of work? Do overthrow, kill some dudes, repeat twice. Go to a place kill some dudes. Carry what they drop to an objective marker. Then do the mission that unlocks with a friend or lfg. Profit? I got this done in an hour with a random chill ass lfg guy who spoke english as a second language while we were both running unoptimal loadouts. You can sure as hell do it too.
@@saeber6630 "I got this done in an hour" that's the lot of work part. most players don't want to spend upwards of an hour to farm for 1 single item. even 30 minutes is already a bit much.
@@acoustic_. if you want to spend a ton of time mindlessly opening up chests in the pale heart(the drop rate is rather low so you are going to spend about the same amount of time either way) then go for it but this mission is the intended way that bungie wants us to farm.
I literally just finished my first run through LFG and was lucky enough to get an awesome tm8 who actually knew the rune callouts. The mission was actually so much fun even if the final door puzzle tripped us up lol
"You have to do the mission on all three characters to unlock it." ... the mission? The class item? Do I really gotta trudge through the campaign two more times to get a single class item? What do you get if you DONT do it on all three characters, two tokens and a blue?
I think he meant that in order to get the class item on each character, you have to do the mission on that character. If was hella confusing tho, I went to the comments to check too.
Idk but I do know you don’t unlock fast travel points without completing campaign per. With that said, do campaign on normal since power level is account wide now. Easy run through especially if you can get another character.
A step that many of us were missing and isn't being included in ALL of the instruction videos, is that the secret keepers won't start spawning until you've completed and overthrow in each area at least once and that includes fire team members. I've been trying for hrs in landing, found that bit of information and tried it, spawned right up.
@@person9346 I think he means the mission is pointless after one run (or 3 i guess to get them to drop from chests) which i'snt great but i'm glad there's farmable chests
@@MarluxiaKH0014 Whereas the exotic swords are farmable every 20 minutes or so solo (matchmade) or by completing Pathfinder in the Pale Heart. I think I got three swords in an hour last week.
It's a cool mission I can't deny that but it's definitely a slap in the face to the solos and casual players, bungie pushing the class exotics in the advertising was 100% misleading. This is coming from someome who has 2 class exotics and carried a couple of people through it.
I appreciate when the game got something to aspire to, I don't care much for loot but I feel like it's great to have better loot behind harder challenges
@@eklof2757 I hear you, but this kind of stuff makes people not want to buy expansions. The only reason I have it is because my son bought it and we have a account sharing if it was up to me I would not have bought it because I know I will never interact with this content. That is why I stop playing this game three years ago, amongst many other reasons
@@Bill-e-Goat then I feel like you already clearly know the game isn't for you. And if ur son enjoys it that's great, no? Maybe a few fewer ppl will buy it because if a co-op mission but to me the more engaging and interesting content the better, and to me this is the most interesting stuff I've played in a long time
I just got done doing a bunch of Overthrow to get the exotic Khvostov for the past few days, and finally finished getting it today after they fixed the floating meatball being bugged. Was really hoping I would never have to touch this activity again because it's sucks and it's boring lol. Well, shit.
Well doing it 3 times wasn't that bad now that I've done it. The TRUE suffering is this Dual Destiny mission. Having to redo it from the *beginning if you fail is the most annoying shit on planet Earth lol.
yeah i got khovostov from the meatball today as well and it's pretty nice to use also pretty good for getting transcendence since it's kinetic and made for add clear
@@kaldrnidafjollum8312I just did it and got the mote of light no problem, granted I had not finished getting all the traveler orbs so maybe that could be why it worked
Rip solo people like me who have bare minimal to get by while still having fun. The last raid iv done was Kings Fall. Never touched any other raid aside from the leviathan stuff and probably won't do this either. I still have much to do in the game, so hopefully, something is done for solo players, but that's highly unlikely. I love that they made the game more challenging, but gotta keep the solo players in mind. I will gladly pull my hair out for hrs trying to do this myself if they made a solo friendly version with lower drop chances so we have to farm it. This is the one game out of many i love just playing with myself not talking to anyone.
Thanks for this video, I feel for you on another level, I love this game and have resigned myself to the reality that I will not get as much out of the game as I could, I've been playing solo for a long time and that is purely because of the issues you mention throughout this video. The grim reality is that there are a lot of toxic players, groups even that go out of their way to make others feel bad about themselves. Thanks for opening up too, you are a diamond, 🙏
Bungie really said “we hate solo players, and this requirement for the item we hyped up in Vidocs & TWIDs came out days after you could ask for refunds, gotcha suckers” ALOT of players are pissed on the forums. This is a disaster.
Ok don't get the class item. Plenty of solo players already have it including myself. If you can't suck up talking to someone for 20 minutes than you shouldn't be on an MMO. That stands for MASSIVELY MULTIPLAYER ONLINE. Thats not very solo friendly if you ask me.
@@ZombieBacon13 lol 3 or 6 man teams ain't a mmo 😂🤦♂️ quite a large amount of the player base likes to jump on after a day of work talking to ppl they don't want to and forced socialising to not do those things and get immursed in a game or ar just bad at talking to ppl that don't actually know.
@@fiddlestyxVR bro, destiny is a looter shooter with multiplayer elements, 95% of the game is solo friendly, stop acting like this is some kind of comms-requiering mmo
You have to beat the campaign fully and you have to complete overthrow in each area one time before they will spawn. I hadn't did the blooming overthrow yet and was getting so frustrated they weren't spawing. Once I beat that once I was allowed to progress
Like, why are so many people in the comment saying:” is a multiplayer game, so you HAVE to play with someone else.” like, us solo player are not saying this mission should ONLY be done as solo, if you wanna do it with someone else, go ahead if that’s what you enjoy, but at least make solo as a option, after a long day of work, I just wanna play something by myself, chilling in my room.
Someone at Bungie had a singular idea they just wouldn’t give up on. 2 perks on the class item so therefore you HAVE to be 2 people doing it and we’ll call it Dual Destiny and somehow tie it to Destiny lore. Thanks Bungle.
You don't need a contest mode clear on Salvations edge to clear this mission. You just need a Mic, someone you can trust, or even a sherpa, the ability to read a clock, and patience
Its a completely different world and game for these guys. Streamer god Destiny players be asking for harder modes, but they live in a different reality. Saw Gladd stream this last night, he went in “blind” with Vendetta. They beat the raid boss 2 man the other day. They go in and casually beat it 1st try. Supposedly they didn’t know any mechanics or have heads up. Meanwhile me and friend tried 4 times couldn’t make it past 1st clock room. Yeah skill issues. Thanks toxic Destiny community. So helpful. This game is gonna lose so many players IF the Bungie leadership keeps forcing this and the community keeps responding with toxic “get gud, use in game Lfg you POS, im gonna yell at you online to prove how great randos online are”. SMH
@@EchoDoctrine i’m not toxic because y’all went in blind and failed because you didn’t understand it or because you chose not to watch a guide THIS IS AN ONLINE GAME where the community has said time and time again that playing d2 alone sucks and almost feels required to play with friend(s) don’t have any? Make some or leave the game, you won’t tho you’ll just keep struggling because you can’t quit until you get more and more unhappy and alternatively, toxic Don’t get me wrong I don’t like bungie…i knew d2 sucked from the moment i saw the vanilla game if only i gave up then but i got friends that make d2 fun
Aztecross is a completely average player skill wise. The reason he could do the day ones is that he has a steady group to play with and the time to actually play for 30 hours straight. They don't design destiny activities to be uncompletable by the average player, even if it takes them a bit longer. And for this mission your time commitment is maybe 30 minutes.
Yep, I quit the game and many other people who "don't want to socialize" will too. Doesn't matter if some think it's a simple barrier to step over, for others they just want to play a game on their terms, on their time. Sometimes the kid had an accident, or they got hurt and need a bandaid, or the wife needs my help with something. It isn't about socializing. It's about how absolutely inconvenient it would be to other people to play with my interruptions, which is the reason why socializing is hard in these games to begin with. It's literally to make sure I don't ruin YOUR experience with my immediate needs. This is why challenging solo content is perfect. If I need to run, I just quit the activity and help out. I suppose I can do that in LFG too and just make 5-10 peoples day worse in the process but wouldn't that be selfish? Instead of that, I'll take this as a sign that people like me aren't welcome and i'll take my leave here. I got to see L&D saga wrap up. Now's a good time to head out. To the ~25,000 total players in a year. I hope you still enjoy the game and they continue to make it in a way you like.
I feel you bud. I'm a live in for my father so I'm basically always on call, so trying to do something like this there could be multiple interruptions/just having to bail for quite awhile. I really thought this was going to be a six man activity or something. I'm bummed.
Exactly this. Well said. You perfectly state the issues. I too am upset and will take my time AND WALLET elsewhere. I wish this had been communicated to players in all the hype up vidocs and TWID posts BEFORE the DLC came out. Now we find out this requirement after a week and refund window is over. Bungie burned ALOT of people and bridges today. IMO
As good as this expansion is, I’m noticing it’s actually quite unfriendly towards solo players, AKA the VAST majority of Destiny players. No public patrol? Forcing coms on coop focus mode? And probably the most nightmarish raid to LFG since Garden of Salvation? Now another activity for 2 players only? I’ve enjoyed my time in game so far, but really only because I haven’t bothered to get microcosm yet, or submitted myself to endless monotonous overthrow. I don’t know if I’m interested in this mission.
i'll probably run this at least cause I have one friend who plays d2 but I dont see myself ever doing microcosm, not interested in the weapon and having to do 3 missions where I HAVE to communicate the whole way through sounds like so much work for a weapon I probably wont even use. at least farming dungeons and some raid weapons can be done with minimal talking if you know the mechanics enough
You can match make for the public patrol space, I mean that’s what I did tho. And for the raid, I just joined Sherpas lmao. It’s not that hard tbh, and this game is meaning to be a MMO, a multiplayer, not a single player experience. If you want to play solo and play by your rules, then yeah that’s alright play it that way, but if some content is locked behind having a fireteam, well that’s too bad. And you crying about the raid being too hard is too crazy of an opinion. The raid MUST be hard as it’s literally the raid ENDING the light and dark sage, the game I have been playing for 10 years.
Everybody complains about no LFG in the game, then they put LFG in the game, and then people switch to "oh but other people are toxic and I don't want to play with other people anyway" This game has had TEN YEARS of team-based activities, Even though Bungie has made many attempts to make the game more solo friendly because of all the complaints, and y'all still getting mad because of a single mission that requires one teammate...wow You guys are only mad because it's the exotic class item and you really want it. If this mission rewarded you some kind of other exotic weapon or piece of armor y'all wouldn't care... But because it's the exotic class item went to exotic perks, everybody gets mad because it's challenging😂😂😂 I also try to solo nearly everything I can in this game, But if it requires a team I just bite the bullet if I want it bad enough. I don't understand why people find that so difficult. And honestly, The team-based activities are way more fun than the ones you can solo anyway... At least IMO 🤷♂️
if you think they control how their lfg community works youre insane. all of these things are good in a way because 1. raids have been too easy. 2. public patrol has been causing them to lose a lot of money because servers were wasted. 3. comms were never forced, youre just bad. and 4. yes it is weird that its a 2 player activity but a simple exotic mission for the most op armor piece in the game?
I agree as a warlock main no point and sacrificing my getaway artist I thought at first i thought it was gonna be one exotic armor piece and a exotic class item at the same time but if I got to pick between one or the other I m say the same
@@PapaG-cg4os that’s great for specific builds but the damage reduction I get from amplify along with my buffed arc soul that generates my grenade and melee cooldown along with damage is to much of a trade off for the few exotic perks they offer it would be different if it had the spirit of every exotic as a option so I can have multiple combinations sure but that’s not the case for me right now is all
Most content takes 25+ mins to complete! Unless you just run vanguard strikes all day lol So you must don’t do any exotic missions or GMs! Or raids and dungeons bc you not guaranteed to get good rolls or good stats!
Nah this, the coop campaign, the catch up mechanic, the boosting your friends light level is all just a vision bungie has that you will someday try to get your friends to buy and play destiny with you. People are praising and defending a marketing ploy like they won a gold medal and it’s honestly pathetic.
i hope each and everyone of you quit the game #1 because this is not a solo friendly game nor is this solo leveling the game And #2 because then bungie might actually do something but it’s unfortunately one of their greatest missions so it’s hard to side with you weirdos on this one ⚖️ quite the conundrum by the way i have anxiety possibly somehow worse on call than in person (but thankfully i have friends 😋)
@@hardluckmk.52 You are part of the reason why people dont like LFGs or interacting with the community. I have played this game solo except for the raids I've done. Solo Legend on LF and TFS. Dungeons you dont need comms if you know what you're doing. PVP maybe comms in Trials or Comp. GMs is like Dungeons. The problem with this is advertising "you can farm this item" but left out how you'll get to the farm. They did this on purpose. Another problem is how the mission is set up. 1 person can be fully capable of doing the mission but you can fail because of the other player. That isnt fun or engaging its tedious and unnecessary. Mix in how toxic this game is and you have people willing to give it a shot just to get into a game with someone who judges every single move they make and name calls. Why would that person go back for more? You hoping everyone leaves that is mad Bungie PURPOSELY mislead people is part of the problem with the community. Since this is a multiplayer game you do know we still need people to play the multiplayer game right? People dont want to go into LFGs or FTF because they avoid people like you.
@@wurp.alwaysit’s not crying to say one of Bungies selling points of the DLC was this exotic class item. For Bungie not to mention that in order to get it you must be in a duo team AND have a mic to do the mission. While I can find an LFG to do this, it would have been in Bungies best interests to be upfront on this. The forum is getting crushed with backlash for not allowing solo players to get the exotic class item.
Honestly just doing stuff in the patrol pale heart is sm fun, I get caught like everyday atleast for an hour or two just exploring and running overthrow it’s the best destination imo
Yay I got tricked into buying the dlc before I knew basic stuff like the exotic class item is not available for solo play. I honestly just want my money back at this point.
@@nem0meimpunel8cessit whiners and complainers when it can easily be solved don’t have my respect 🫡. legit just have to do the mission once and it drops from pale heart ppl fr doin way too much complaining
for any duos struggling due to the time constraints, a div cenotaph warlock, and a celestial still hunt hunter, is really good. getting really consistent 35 mins at a very casual pace. just killing what we need and playing it hella safe. the tormentors and subjugators get melted from still hunt when div is on them. bring a machine gun for add clear and some boss dps to hit the precision shots on the bosses :) it’s a really fun mission
With the episodes time trialed mission and the exotic class item mission being a time trial as well this feels like it’s just: Season of the Hurry Your Ass Up If You Want To Get Loot ft. Lmao Get Fucked Solo Players.
iv been a solo player since D1 iv only done 2-3 raids and never used my mic this stupid quest got me on discord with some random guy from LFG and we did it blind took us 2 hours and it was actually really fun we added each other after it was well worth it for that experience alone i got the titan belt with Hoil + Syntho and it is nasty
Yeap solo here and took FOREVER to finally get another person to do this sense again LFG does not have a listing for things in the pale heart! But this was kinda brutal- I need more of this kinda content!
My entire guild and every friend quit the game in Lightfall. I hate being forced to do content that could easily be adjusted solo with someone I don't know
I’m a solo player on warframe, why? Because the game allows it…how tf ppl still expect to play destiny 2 solo….even the crazy people who solo dungeons and raids have friends to play with destiny 2 is a very friend required game, you’re not gonna have fun otherwise believe me (or don’t) it’s just that d2 sucks but sucks less with friends around…most of the time
As a returning casual seeing this just hurts. I don't have that kind of time to be able to grind to the appropriate light level. Much less get a second person to try and learn these mechanics with. Yet here's a crucial exotic armor piece that is a game changer locked behind high light and forced co-op timed mission. Again.
So a few things 1. For those complaining AT solo players. There are people literally with social anxiety. Literally a mental health condition. Your mother brought you up wrong if you are not open minded enough to understand that part. For the solo players w/o a mental condition. Grow a pair and LFG it. 2. For those saying this is not a good guide. He does explain by showing you and verbally confirming what to do in order. If you can’t understand, that’s literally on you. 3. This mission becomes incredibly easy after the first few runs and you LEARN what you’re doing. I did it with my clanmate and we clear this now in 30 mins or less, stop expecting everything to be given to you on a silver plater. Play the game, stop whinning. Literally if something’s too easy wahh. They make the game more difficult, wahhh. On top of pointing the finger at anyone else except self accountability. Lame af. Skill issue check? 4. As for farming. It truly is rng. I just spent a hour in the daily overthrow area and received 0. My clanmate however scored 1. This farm method is truthfully if you don’t ever want to do the mission again(which is nuts because it is the most fun and best exotic mission in a while) So farm from chest at your own risk because it can get boring
I went in blind with my friend tonight. We went to the first clock in 2 attempt. We got tired of guessing and i am watching this video. Lol Its a really cool mission.
I find it funny when they said “this is easy” while they are equipped with some of the best weapons, all maxed out, and some of the best adept armor. Like bro it’s easy when you have the right tools. For the average is not as easy
and they're at light level a week after the season started. Me and a couple dudes from my clan have been making runs and we're all around 1970. That shit hits like a GM. Got all the way to the final clock on the boss at the very end and ran out of time. i was pretty upset, no lie.
One of the best things I’ve done this mission is great. And I love the idea of adding some 2 player activities. Not sure why people are complaining about 2 player activities when it’s easier to get 1 other than 2 other people for a challenging activity. It’s so much fun and not hard at all
Kinda feels like they advertised a raid exotic 😂. I'm sure most casual and returning players aren't gonna ever see this exotic. Kinda wish it was tied to the legendary campaign instead of those mid exotics we got to choose from. 🤷♂️
This mission has both of my gripes with Bungie mission design lol. They think timers equal difficulty. And, they pad out missions by making you do the same mechanic 3, 4 times. This is why Warlord’s Ruin was so great. It just was what it is. Can you imagine having to do Warlord’s Ruin with repeating the Winter mechanic present in every single encounter + a 30 min timer? 😂 It’s not hard, it’s Tedious. Just stretched out for no reason. No reason to reuse the same mechanic more than twice. Lol Also, at this point… Dunking Orbs and Symbols is played out. If they never used those mechanics again, I wouldn’t miss them lol
Warlord Ruin’s final boss had a mix of the two previous encounters. Additionally, try to think of new ideas with a 10 year old game. Difficult isn’t it?
I have to play with someone even tho i love solo play its fine but the fact that its so long to complete for a ugly ass shower curtain i cant transmog is crazy 🤣
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Thanks, but I'm not sure if this is going to be a quest I will ever finish
Why is my equipment locked for this but yours isn’t?
I'm going to win so many eggplants with all the failed runs
@@Johnston212skill issue
@@okipullup.. Perhaps, but I don't see the point in putting myself in a absolutely foul mood and spending around an hour on a mission that I can't stand. I can probably do this, but I will hate every second of it. If that's a skill issue, then sure
Just ran this for the first time through lfg! I’m a solo player and have pretty bad anxiety so I didn’t plan on actually completing this mission, but I watched this guide a few times and eventually got up the nerve to create an lfg post. I found a super chill dude who had run it multiple times and helped me a ton with the callouts and at any part I didn’t remember. Finally unlocked my exotic class item and I feel great honestly! Moral of the story, don’t be afraid to ask for help. 9/10 times the other player has had a similar experience with lfg in the past and genuinely wants to help others in their journey. (Just do your research before so you can complete it without a lot of issues, hopefully on the first try)!
I’m going to take this small lesson and apply it to my daily life, hopefully if you’re still reading this it will help you out as well. Good luck!
Even with this comment, my anxiety is such that I haven't even opened Fireteam Finder. I have a friend who plays occasionally, but not reliably enough to help me with most things. I don't have much hope for completing this mission. I never use mic with strangers.
@@Daiarthaine65 trust me bro I know how you feel, sometimes it can be hard to even reply to comments like this so that says some about how tough you really are! I’m a firm believer that our comfort zones, while secure, can be the most dangerous things to us. Many people in history didn’t reach groundbreaking achievements while staying in their comfort zones. I believe that outside of that zone is where we learn and grow the most! I’m learning that if there’s something I want to do or achieve, not to let that little voice inside talk me out of it. Anxiety can be useful in some stressful situations and for that we are blessed, but I’ve found that most of the time it just holds us back from better things. Only by practicing stepping out of that comfort zone can we make those things that seem too difficult become less difficult and things that seem impossible now become possible in the future!
“The man who moves a mountain begins by carrying away small stones.”
-Confucius
34:30 - for anyone curious - he means in order to get a chance at farming chests for a particular character, you need to complete the mission on that respective character in order to unlock the ability to do so ON THAT CHARACTER - NOT that you need to complete the mission on all 3 characters in order to start farming chests on ONE of them. Hopefully that makes sense (for anyone who might misinterpret what he said at the end)
I was a bit concerned there for a second. Thanks.
W comment. Streamer too torqued to get a video out to give decent info.
my heart sank bro.
Dude thank you I was looking for this exact comment
@@ben-64 little bit harsh, what cross said wasn't wrong, it was just worded confusingly. you do have to do it on all characters if you want to farm it on all characters.
As a solo player, my experience trying to escape the jail in LFG Warlord's Ruin last season has put me off even attempting to do this.
Ah, so this is a horror story everyone has from that dungeon. I had one where we were stuck for almost an hour cos the guy couldnt tell ACW from CW and then went to make food after after about 15 minutes 😳
How come you can't/don't want to get on call with ppl? I'd be happy to help if/when you wanna try the quest
This is why I solo dungeons. Wish I could solo some raids but I have brain damage and I cant keep that complex of mechanics straight in my head.
@@eklof2757 for me my play time is 1-8am I work from 4-12pm. I can't really be on mic in the middle of the night without it being obnoxious. Headset usually makes me talk too loud cuz I can't hear myself and people complain at me if I use the ps5 built in controller mic. So I just play alone.
play with people with coms
Solo players got catfished into thinking they can farm for these.
You can get them from normal chests after completing the activity once, its not that bad
They can. After doing the mission once they become a rare drop from any pale heart chest.
@@jahinhaLike any chest in the pale heart?
Do you really have to do it on all 3 characters for it to be able to drop from chests?
Yes @@marvelousmarshadow9478
Around 18:40, the 3 common lit ones are what you shoot. If you both call out the 3 totems NOT lit for you, then the 3 unmentioned will be the 3 to shoot. Found it a little easier that way.
thank you i could not understand how cross was explaining it lol
none of them glow for either of me and my partner
Still doesn't make sense but yea he explained things horribly
Thank you bro!
After 2 months, this is how I did it for the first time yesterday with my friend. I swear rewatching this part had me confused.
I totally understand the fact that end game stuff should be hard to get. But that doesn't mean it should be a done only via teamplay. Bungie should have given the opportunity to anyone who wants a solo challenge. Besides that sense of accomplishment you get by finally getting it done solo will always be the ones to remember in a game like Destiny.
Nah the feeling and experience u have with a partner on your side is far superior.
I am a returning player i havent played since 4 or 5 years. I came back with final shape and i did this mission with my old friend. Man we had a blast doing this blind together. Figuring everything out and mastering it was insane. Things like this u wont forget so fast. Its hard, its rewarding, its just a great coop ecperience. The light and dark theme...it just had to be a duo only mission. I loved it 👍
Alright, go solo vow of the disciple.
You got this!
The mission is literally designed for 2 people...how can you change that?
@@laughingatnothing4642 thats upto bungie afterall
Go solo a raid then.
R.I.P solo players
Fr 😞
You think it was gonna be easy to get the most powerful armor in the game lol
you mean rip to the players that want to get the best stuff in the game easy
@@JDxxxxxx it doesnt have to be easy, but the fact that you cant do this solo is stupid
@@justin-iq2odyou can tho u just have to farm chests
Trying to decide what’s more OP the exotic or my anxiety.
You got this
I’m wondering the same thing :(
you got it brother. get a feel for your duo then go for it
Idk how you people even exist, it’s a video game it’s not hard to talk to someone you don’t even have to see 😭 I get social anxiety if you’re like a waiter irl but come on lmfao
@@jebalitabb8228 How to say you don't understand social anxiety without saying you don't understand social anxiety.
I appreciate how youve shown this mission off actually, to the point at the start and running us through 'live', thanks cross
JEEEZ… talk about a long ass mission for two people.
i did it in 12 minutes
@@jcpenny6310stop lying it’s not nice
@@weaboojones2178 Bro def lying because some part alone just the transversing take 8 mins
@@weaboojones2178 just use eager edge and grapple lol
It's ez took me 15 minutes
“Les were on a timer” that was the moment they both knew they weren’t choosing peace at the end.
To all the people laughing about solo players not being able to do the content. I've spent the last couple days trying to find people for the convelance budding quest in several different places and no reply.... So it's not always a case of not willing to play with other's... So rather than laughing or mocking the solo players offer help... Do good for the community not belittle it. All seriousness tho i know this is the Internet and trolls going to troll so is what it is just wanted to put the first part out there.
I gave LFG 2 tries for this mission. Both times someone came in, insulted me and left.
@@Gunther69420 if you want I'll run it with ya ... Still haven't found a group for it yet myself
I’m with you bro, I think solo players need more love from bungie.
I just have to unlock the mission but I
down to help as long as I can 😂 (Reply back for my bungie guardian name)
Also some peoples wifi is so bad theyd rather play alone then try and struggle to keep a game together just because they need someone to help, thats my case anyways
bold of you to assume bungie that people want to do this more than once.
you don't, once you've done it once you can farm pale heart chests for it and since your vendor upgrades are shared between characters i'm assuming dual destiny progress is too
@@dankerbell I don't think that's how it works. For example, just because you get an Expansion only Exotic for one character, doesn't mean you can get other expansion exotics for other classes to drop via random drops. You have to unlock the Exotics per character, meaning we will have to run thsi activety at least once per character.
@@CephalonAxiiidk if this applies but the legendary armor for this expansion only requires you to unlock it on one character to unlock on all 3
@@Cryptic211 It does not I think. Considering the Exotic Marks are Exotic, and likely fall under Exotic rules.
Once you've beaten the level 4 bosses and killed the witch in each area, the exotic mission appears on your map ant stays there, its also available for all 3 characters straight away, whole thing takes about 30 mins each run ! Farmable.
I was really hoping exotic class items would be part of a 6 man activity like wellspring, dares etc or something somewhat fun. Lol
This whole ass dlc is tedious AF. Prolly the most wasted time out of any one of them before it. It's not hard but boring and waaaaaay too long as far as unlocking the armor an weapons. I mean legendary weapons too, not even the good shit. Smh. I GOTTA stop falling for this shit. AND I PLAY SOLO! TF?! Would refund but conveniently enough they time gates this bs...wonder why....
@@Name-zd2nbI think you just don’t enjoy destiny. This has been the greatest expansion ever and this mission is great. Grinding for the legendaries is super easy.
@@Name-zd2nb this is the least tedious dlc we have gotten for loot, tf you on about
@@Name-zd2nb how about hear Nimbus yap for hours for the most dogshit lmg
Ok shill@@dylanholm9995
How is it that trials accommodates for solos better that PvE missions now?
As a mostly solo player cause all my friends hate "Debit Card 2" this kinda blows...
They literally had a chance to get some expansions either free or 85% off not long ago. Making games isn't a charity. Any hobby costs money. Plenty of options for a temporary extra side hustle to make an extra $100 to get a new expansion if they want it on release.
@@synthetik_souli love this game but this is an awful take. warframes expansions are free
@@navi0760 warframe is also forever in beta
@@synthetik_soul I remember when they said they’ll be making Dungeon free content because eververse pays for it, now look at us, double dipping with separate dungeons unlike Forsaken and Shadowkeep which came with dungeons
@@synthetik_soul The price point is hard to justify, with $100 you can buy an entire game or two. On another note, D2 is the embodiment of the sunk-cost fallacy lol
I just got my warlock a Spirit of Necrotic/Spirit of the Claw. Poisonous electric slide with 4 charges
Dang that's nice man. Sounds nasty.
SHIETTTT I NEED TO HOP ONNN 😭😭😭🙄
Assassins cowl and synthoceps w/ felwinters helm is what I’m gunning for
Niccee
@@JUIIICED. You can't use it with a regular exotic as well
thank you for not doing crazy cuts like everyone else and assume i know where they are
I helped a guy for over two hours on this mission, on the 4th attempt we finally got to the boss room, only to realize at the end of the encounter that the clock changes too fast for the other guy to see which they were, type them in, me see which was the one in common and type that one in. Sadly he didn't have a mic so we had to quit trying and I felt so bad for him. Thankfully, I have friends that are currently playing I can get in vc with to do it. If you mess up any on the clock it resets any progress you made so a brute force is near impossible. Let it be known that a mic is absolutely required to beat the final encounter.
As a solo player I was anxious about actually having to coordinate with a stranger but I just first time cleared it and got a Warlock class item with Apotheosis and Verity first try. Seems insane for a grenade build, appreciate the guide!
When they said we'd have a way to farm them, I imagined a fun activity
Same here. I never expected it to be easy, but I at least expected something fun and matchmade. This thing is just a joke. THANK GOD you only have to run this once per character but even that is gonna be painful AF
this is the best exotic mission theyve ever done
@@GhostMan407it's up there for me too
This whole quest is complete garbage and I don’t have a issue with LFG I’ve done everything they discussed all the overthrows and I can never get this damn witch to spawn this game truly is a joke and will not be involved in this franchise again after I get what I paid for in TFS
@@imLeyt0n that's ok
I stopped playing the game some time just before lightfall came out but every now and again I see some gameplay & I’m like holy **** a lot changed in just over a year lol
Onlaught is awesome and this DLC is sooo good! It is better than it has ever been😊
It’s basically Destiny 2.5 now
Yeh I’m tempted to hop back in at some point, the problem is I’m kinda enjoying playing a few different things atm & I know if I start playing again it will consume all my time entirely lol 😆 I think the problems I’ve had in the past is that they’ll make some good content but then shortly after there’ll be just a season where its just like “farm this lost sector x number of times” and it became such a chore that I first stopped playing during the osiris sundial stuff, played again for a while and caught up then ended up stopping again.
I didn't believe Elden Ring's DLC could look more enticing until now.
Yeah, glad Deep Rock Galactic Season 5 comes out thursday cause I ain't farming this mission lol.
FAX
@@kassaken6521 you need to do this mission only one time , after that you find the exotic class items in patrol chests
D4 still has its event
Final shape is a good DLC...for Destiny. But you compare it to other AAA games DLC's and you'd know how friggin much you'd be getting ripped off by Bungie in terms of actual content that you receive. Elden Ring's DLC is gonna completely overshadow Final shape, and you know what? GOOD
I managed to solo the Shattered Thorne and I'm proud of that, considering my skillset. But this, no way...
A couple of runs and we had it down with 15 mins remaining. Retrofit escapade absolute wrecks in this id highly recommend
And I was looking forward to the Esoterick solo flawless vid, RIP.
he'll find a way
@@SpaceElvisInchow? The mechanics are designed for Duo...
I so wanna see him do it using two PC’s playing with himself as a duo
Maybe if you are extremely lucky geussing all the things to shoot. Or there will be some glitch to solo it.
@@sean_marsz oh my god yes!!! We need that so bad.
Before you do this you must have done all 3 areas and then do them again to spawn wizards if you haven’t done all 3 already (nobody says this in videos for some reason)
With how toxic the d2 player base can be I was hoping to be able to do this solo, ah well time to take an L ig
I recently made a discord server for more chill people so we can avoid the toxicity of lfg if you wanna join haha
@@mckaysera4529 Ay I appreciate the offer but I've been burned far too many times interacting with the community so I'll just skip this exotic class item quest and bank on them adding an alternative way to get it
@@dammitthatguy3107Same bro. Turns out a lot of the time people advertising a chill environment are toxic in different, more dangerous ways.
Yep, I quit the game and many other people who "don't want to socialize" will too.
Doesn't matter if some think it's a simple barrier to step over, for others they just want to play a game on their terms, on their time.
Sometimes the kid had an accident, or they got hurt and need a bandaid, or the wife needs my help with something.
It isn't about socializing. It's about how absolutely inconvenient it would be to other people to play with my interruptions, which is the reason why socializing is hard in these games to begin with. It's literally to make sure I don't ruin YOUR experience with my immediate needs.
This is why challenging solo content is perfect. If I need to run, I just quit the activity and help out. I suppose I can do that in LFG too and just make 5-10 peoples day worse in the process but wouldn't that be selfish?
Instead of that, I'll take this as a sign that people like me aren't welcome and i'll take my leave here. I got to see L&D saga wrap up. Now's a good time to head out.
@@wdh199821 Real, just can't take risk anymore
We should’ve gotten it for beating the witness in that 12 player activity. Instead of locking it behind a mandatory 2 player raid.
Finally I’ve done it! I finished a new exotic quest before all the UA-camrs posted a guide! I AM A GOD NOW
Can confirm. You have to do all 3 zones' overthrows. Sav will talk and that unlocks the wizard spawn. Then you have to go back and do each zone again.
Nah you can just do 1 zone at a time, spawn the wizard then kill it then do the next zone.
@derka4754 that did not work for me. I did 2 zones and it wasn't until I did the 3rd one that it spawned
This is one of the most annoying ways to start a fucking quest.
@@Glimpse_SiCit worked for me like derka, just finished the overthrows then found the dudes
Bungie is afraid of W's. The Final Shape campaign was AMAZING but this mission is a nightmare. if they at least took away the timer I would be fine with that or add rally points. However, this being a timed, long ass complex puzzle, that MUST be done co-op is just madness. I am exhausted just watch the tutorial. 🤣🤣
I went through blind with a random lfg, it's not that bad, and there are rally points throughout
Seriously dude. Why is everything fucking timed? God forbid I wanna play the game at my own pace.
@@ashketchum8431wah wah wah the activity for the one of the most powerful items in the game is HARD! HOW COULD THEY!!!!?
@@dylanholm9995really not that powerful though. There effects are so specific on the majority of the rolls that it’s barely worth the effort to get them in the first place.
@@dylanholm9995 I've seen the perks on the class items. Unless you get an absolute god roll like Star Eaters with Apotheosis or something similar, they really aren't that valuable. And remember that some of the basic exotics are stronger than their versions of it on the class item (i.e. normal Swarmers is infinitely better than the one on the class item just because of the unravel. The class item version is so much weaker because of no unravel that Swarmers on the class item is actually a no-go).
"One of the most powerful items in the game" my left nut. I'd rather run around with Celestial Golden Gun and the sniper than use the class item, especially after they nerfed Assassin's Cowl's effect (which was one of the only things I would've wanted the class item for on my hunter).
This 'live' quest guide is a really good way of explaining/showing what to do rather than the scripted guides imo. Would love to see more like this.
Also enjoy the random discord chat from Jamie 😂
Ooof that looks like ALOT of work. I think i might wait this one out and see if they simplify this next season.
That's what I'm hoping .... cuz F that I'm cool.
The hell u mean a lot of work?
Do overthrow, kill some dudes, repeat twice.
Go to a place kill some dudes. Carry what they drop to an objective marker.
Then do the mission that unlocks with a friend or lfg.
Profit?
I got this done in an hour with a random chill ass lfg guy who spoke english as a second language while we were both running unoptimal loadouts. You can sure as hell do it too.
@@saeber6630 "I got this done in an hour" that's the lot of work part. most players don't want to spend upwards of an hour to farm for 1 single item. even 30 minutes is already a bit much.
@@h13n12I thought you only had to do this mission once
@@acoustic_. if you want to spend a ton of time mindlessly opening up chests in the pale heart(the drop rate is rather low so you are going to spend about the same amount of time either way) then go for it but this mission is the intended way that bungie wants us to farm.
What did Maverick do 😂
We need the tea!
what doesn't maverick do?
I was thinking this 🤣
I whatched a lil bit of his stream of this think he cut it out
He was writing checks his ego couldn't cash.
Thank you for explaing it like a normal human. Some guides from other unnamed destiny youtubers are hard to follow and or snooze fests.
That feeling when you need to do homework just to play a game and have fun
How do people know how to do this if the company itself doesn't give one clue on how to even start it?
lots of time experimenting
It's a secret quest just like whisper and other exotic missions in the past.
I'm a sick lil freak for secrets
I literally just finished my first run through LFG and was lucky enough to get an awesome tm8 who actually knew the rune callouts. The mission was actually so much fun even if the final door puzzle tripped us up lol
"You have to do the mission on all three characters to unlock it."
... the mission? The class item? Do I really gotta trudge through the campaign two more times to get a single class item? What do you get if you DONT do it on all three characters, two tokens and a blue?
I think he meant that in order to get the class item on each character, you have to do the mission on that character. If was hella confusing tho, I went to the comments to check too.
@@scirrhia_kruden is that even true? because the ability for them to drop is a ghost unlock and should therefore theoretically be account wide
@@pandacrafty Please tell me this is true
Idk but I do know you don’t unlock fast travel points without completing campaign per.
With that said, do campaign on normal since power level is account wide now.
Easy run through especially if you can get another character.
Are you okay???? Obviously he meant each character needs to do it to unlock their class item
Confirmed! Bungie hates solo players.
have to play with people in my mmorpg
facts i like playing solo
Do you really have to do it on all 3 characters for it to be able to drop from chests?
Womp womp, learn to socialize
shut up man go get some friends stop being a loser
I just watched a couple other videos to help me with the last puzzle and the way you explained it, perfect!
i have to rely on someone else to complete a timed mission? hard fuckin pass dude. ill stick with the normal exotics
most normal solo player in the comments
@@bonzi4446yea it's for a reason cause the toxic cesspool of a lfg community wi people like you
The timers are VERY lenient, me and my teammate did one part for 10 minutes before looking up a guide, and still had 10 minutes to spare
Just throwing it out there, understandable if it's not for you
Sounds like a skill issue, maybe you should get good. The mission is easy as fuck if the two players have even three braincells.
Remember to equip a sniper and ads with wombo combo to see chests further away!
YESSS. Its such a silly thing. Sniper zoom shows chests from far away.
What?
A step that many of us were missing and isn't being included in ALL of the instruction videos, is that the secret keepers won't start spawning until you've completed and overthrow in each area at least once and that includes fire team members. I've been trying for hrs in landing, found that bit of information and tried it, spawned right up.
Reading the coment responses to the people talking about how this sucks as a solo player was a good reminder of WHY I'm a solo player.
Ain’t no way they think we want to farm this long ass mission for one item.
You only have to do the mission once and then any pale heart chest can drop them
@@person9346 I think he means the mission is pointless after one run (or 3 i guess to get them to drop from chests) which i'snt great but i'm glad there's farmable chests
@@KurtReynolds0?
It’s an exotic what did you expect
@@MarluxiaKH0014 Whereas the exotic swords are farmable every 20 minutes or so solo (matchmade) or by completing Pathfinder in the Pale Heart. I think I got three swords in an hour last week.
Wow. Didn't expect this to be easy. But didn't expect it to be locked for two players.
It's a cool mission I can't deny that but it's definitely a slap in the face to the solos and casual players, bungie pushing the class exotics in the advertising was 100% misleading.
This is coming from someome who has 2 class exotics and carried a couple of people through it.
I appreciate when the game got something to aspire to, I don't care much for loot but I feel like it's great to have better loot behind harder challenges
@@eklof2757 I hear you, but this kind of stuff makes people not want to buy expansions. The only reason I have it is because my son bought it and we have a account sharing if it was up to me I would not have bought it because I know I will never interact with this content. That is why I stop playing this game three years ago, amongst many other reasons
@@Bill-e-Goat then I feel like you already clearly know the game isn't for you. And if ur son enjoys it that's great, no? Maybe a few fewer ppl will buy it because if a co-op mission but to me the more engaging and interesting content the better, and to me this is the most interesting stuff I've played in a long time
Stupid question but im assuming you need to do the exotic mission first in order to unlock the class item then you can farm it through the chests?
Yep.
You have to do it once on each character to unlock the item for each respective character. Once you done that you can farm it threw chests.
You and Les fight like brothers. Cracks me up.
I just got done doing a bunch of Overthrow to get the exotic Khvostov for the past few days, and finally finished getting it today after they fixed the floating meatball being bugged. Was really hoping I would never have to touch this activity again because it's sucks and it's boring lol. Well, shit.
Well doing it 3 times wasn't that bad now that I've done it. The TRUE suffering is this Dual Destiny mission. Having to redo it from the *beginning if you fail is the most annoying shit on planet Earth lol.
yeah i got khovostov from the meatball today as well and it's pretty nice to use
also pretty good for getting transcendence since it's kinetic and made for add clear
Its still bugged for me I think? I cant get the exotic last drop from meatball
WAIT THE QUESTS IS FIXED?
@@kaldrnidafjollum8312I just did it and got the mote of light no problem, granted I had not finished getting all the traveler orbs so maybe that could be why it worked
Rip solo people like me who have bare minimal to get by while still having fun. The last raid iv done was Kings Fall. Never touched any other raid aside from the leviathan stuff and probably won't do this either. I still have much to do in the game, so hopefully, something is done for solo players, but that's highly unlikely. I love that they made the game more challenging, but gotta keep the solo players in mind. I will gladly pull my hair out for hrs trying to do this myself if they made a solo friendly version with lower drop chances so we have to farm it. This is the one game out of many i love just playing with myself not talking to anyone.
Thanks for this video, I feel for you on another level, I love this game and have resigned myself to the reality that I will not get as much out of the game as I could, I've been playing solo for a long time and that is purely because of the issues you mention throughout this video. The grim reality is that there are a lot of toxic players, groups even that go out of their way to make others feel bad about themselves. Thanks for opening up too, you are a diamond, 🙏
Bungie really said “we hate solo players, and this requirement for the item we hyped up in Vidocs & TWIDs came out days after you could ask for refunds, gotcha suckers”
ALOT of players are pissed on the forums. This is a disaster.
Ok don't get the class item. Plenty of solo players already have it including myself. If you can't suck up talking to someone for 20 minutes than you shouldn't be on an MMO. That stands for MASSIVELY MULTIPLAYER ONLINE. Thats not very solo friendly if you ask me.
@@ZombieBacon13 destiny is a looter shooter with multiplayer elements, not an mmo
@@ZombieBacon13 lol 3 or 6 man teams ain't a mmo 😂🤦♂️ quite a large amount of the player base likes to jump on after a day of work talking to ppl they don't want to and forced socialising to not do those things and get immursed in a game or ar just bad at talking to ppl that don't actually know.
Maybe destiny ain't the game for you, g.
@@fiddlestyxVR bro, destiny is a looter shooter with multiplayer elements, 95% of the game is solo friendly, stop acting like this is some kind of comms-requiering mmo
So I beat overthrow but the text for the wizard didn’t show up are there any prerequisites other than beating the campaign
Same done it multiple times, are you suppose to do it with 2 people even from the overthrow ?
You have to beat the campaign fully and you have to complete overthrow in each area one time before they will spawn. I hadn't did the blooming overthrow yet and was getting so frustrated they weren't spawing. Once I beat that once I was allowed to progress
Like, why are so many people in the comment saying:” is a multiplayer game, so you HAVE to play with someone else.” like, us solo player are not saying this mission should ONLY be done as solo, if you wanna do it with someone else, go ahead if that’s what you enjoy, but at least make solo as a option, after a long day of work, I just wanna play something by myself, chilling in my room.
Someone at Bungie had a singular idea they just wouldn’t give up on. 2 perks on the class item so therefore you HAVE to be 2 people doing it and we’ll call it Dual Destiny and somehow tie it to Destiny lore. Thanks Bungle.
I really appreciate when they focus on teamwork
"It's not to bad" says the guy with contest clear on the hardest day 1 raid..😏
You don't need a contest mode clear on Salvations edge to clear this mission. You just need a Mic, someone you can trust, or even a sherpa, the ability to read a clock, and patience
Its a completely different world and game for these guys. Streamer god Destiny players be asking for harder modes, but they live in a different reality.
Saw Gladd stream this last night, he went in “blind” with Vendetta. They beat the raid boss 2 man the other day. They go in and casually beat it 1st try. Supposedly they didn’t know any mechanics or have heads up. Meanwhile me and friend tried 4 times couldn’t make it past 1st clock room. Yeah skill issues. Thanks toxic Destiny community. So helpful.
This game is gonna lose so many players IF the Bungie leadership keeps forcing this and the community keeps responding with toxic “get gud, use in game Lfg you POS, im gonna yell at you online to prove how great randos online are”. SMH
@@EchoDoctrine i’m not toxic because y’all went in blind and failed because you didn’t understand it or because you chose not to watch a guide
THIS IS AN ONLINE GAME where the community has said time and time again that playing d2 alone sucks and almost feels required to play with friend(s)
don’t have any? Make some or leave the game, you won’t tho you’ll just keep struggling because you can’t quit until you get more and more unhappy and alternatively, toxic
Don’t get me wrong I don’t like bungie…i knew d2 sucked from the moment i saw the vanilla game if only i gave up then but i got friends that make d2 fun
Aztecross is a completely average player skill wise. The reason he could do the day ones is that he has a steady group to play with and the time to actually play for 30 hours straight. They don't design destiny activities to be uncompletable by the average player, even if it takes them a bit longer. And for this mission your time commitment is maybe 30 minutes.
@@ZombieBacon13 yes “completely average player” …. He was 1 of only 3 Titan players in the WORLD to beat day one raid….
Yes. Very rational take
I know it's not always possible but it's nice to get a "live" guide on a second run of an encounter
Yep, I quit the game and many other people who "don't want to socialize" will too.
Doesn't matter if some think it's a simple barrier to step over, for others they just want to play a game on their terms, on their time.
Sometimes the kid had an accident, or they got hurt and need a bandaid, or the wife needs my help with something.
It isn't about socializing. It's about how absolutely inconvenient it would be to other people to play with my interruptions, which is the reason why socializing is hard in these games to begin with. It's literally to make sure I don't ruin YOUR experience with my immediate needs.
This is why challenging solo content is perfect. If I need to run, I just quit the activity and help out. I suppose I can do that in LFG too and just make 5-10 peoples day worse in the process but wouldn't that be selfish?
Instead of that, I'll take this as a sign that people like me aren't welcome and i'll take my leave here. I got to see L&D saga wrap up. Now's a good time to head out.
To the ~25,000 total players in a year. I hope you still enjoy the game and they continue to make it in a way you like.
Aww....I'm...sorry tha it's this way for you TnT
@@Yumiaia-26 Yah, avg destiny player here(stunning recommendation of the game btw)
I feel you bud. I'm a live in for my father so I'm basically always on call, so trying to do something like this there could be multiple interruptions/just having to bail for quite awhile. I really thought this was going to be a six man activity or something. I'm bummed.
cry
Exactly this. Well said.
You perfectly state the issues. I too am upset and will take my time AND WALLET elsewhere.
I wish this had been communicated to players in all the hype up vidocs and TWID posts BEFORE the DLC came out. Now we find out this requirement after a week and refund window is over.
Bungie burned ALOT of people and bridges today. IMO
As good as this expansion is, I’m noticing it’s actually quite unfriendly towards solo players, AKA the VAST majority of Destiny players. No public patrol? Forcing coms on coop focus mode? And probably the most nightmarish raid to LFG since Garden of Salvation? Now another activity for 2 players only? I’ve enjoyed my time in game so far, but really only because I haven’t bothered to get microcosm yet, or submitted myself to endless monotonous overthrow. I don’t know if I’m interested in this mission.
i'll probably run this at least cause I have one friend who plays d2 but I dont see myself ever doing microcosm, not interested in the weapon and having to do 3 missions where I HAVE to communicate the whole way through sounds like so much work for a weapon I probably wont even use. at least farming dungeons and some raid weapons can be done with minimal talking if you know the mechanics enough
Bungie have been slowly moving the game from an MMO lite to be closer to an MMO so it makes sense how they have more and more team activities.
You can match make for the public patrol space, I mean that’s what I did tho. And for the raid, I just joined Sherpas lmao. It’s not that hard tbh, and this game is meaning to be a MMO, a multiplayer, not a single player experience. If you want to play solo and play by your rules, then yeah that’s alright play it that way, but if some content is locked behind having a fireteam, well that’s too bad. And you crying about the raid being too hard is too crazy of an opinion. The raid MUST be hard as it’s literally the raid ENDING the light and dark sage, the game I have been playing for 10 years.
Everybody complains about no LFG in the game, then they put LFG in the game, and then people switch to "oh but other people are toxic and I don't want to play with other people anyway"
This game has had TEN YEARS of team-based activities, Even though Bungie has made many attempts to make the game more solo friendly because of all the complaints, and y'all still getting mad because of a single mission that requires one teammate...wow
You guys are only mad because it's the exotic class item and you really want it. If this mission rewarded you some kind of other exotic weapon or piece of armor y'all wouldn't care... But because it's the exotic class item went to exotic perks, everybody gets mad because it's challenging😂😂😂
I also try to solo nearly everything I can in this game, But if it requires a team I just bite the bullet if I want it bad enough. I don't understand why people find that so difficult. And honestly, The team-based activities are way more fun than the ones you can solo anyway... At least IMO 🤷♂️
if you think they control how their lfg community works youre insane. all of these things are good in a way because 1. raids have been too easy. 2. public patrol has been causing them to lose a lot of money because servers were wasted. 3. comms were never forced, youre just bad. and 4. yes it is weird that its a 2 player activity but a simple exotic mission for the most op armor piece in the game?
Good job I preprepared for bungie to pull a bungie by buying the Elden ring dlc
My first one was with spirit of the assassin and spirit of the liar 😍 so good and fun
Yo nice profile pick polyphia is nuts.
I'm looking for Spirit of galanor, Spirit of Star eaters.
on what class
@@randomroIIs hunter
nice to see Bungie doing content for youtubers day 1 raiders, truly the majority of their player base...
I'll just use a single exotic. Doesnt seem worth it imo.
I agree as a warlock main no point and sacrificing my getaway artist I thought at first i thought it was gonna be one exotic armor piece and a exotic class item at the same time but if I got to pick between one or the other I m say the same
@@TheprophetDJ yea, but have you seen the exotics we can pair as warlocks? we get the apotheosis + star eater combo for song of flame
@@PapaG-cg4os that’s great for specific builds but the damage reduction I get from amplify along with my buffed arc soul that generates my grenade and melee cooldown along with damage is to much of a trade off for the few exotic perks they offer it would be different if it had the spirit of every exotic as a option so I can have multiple combinations sure but that’s not the case for me right now is all
It is definitely worth it. man up, find a random and get an exotic it’s not hard.
Most content takes 25+ mins to complete! Unless you just run vanguard strikes all day lol
So you must don’t do any exotic missions or GMs! Or raids and dungeons bc you not guaranteed to get good rolls or good stats!
So basically, the exotic mission to unlock them is a "Hope you and your homie have good coordination"
My brother in christ no hope involved. Literally just do it
Yupp! It makes you communicate
Nah this, the coop campaign, the catch up mechanic, the boosting your friends light level is all just a vision bungie has that you will someday try to get your friends to buy and play destiny with you. People are praising and defending a marketing ploy like they won a gold medal and it’s honestly pathetic.
Thanks for the guide Aztec, me and a bud were throwing our heads against the wall with the crux balancing
This DLC gonna face backlash for anti solo
for an exotic like this, you cant be crying
i hope each and everyone of you quit the game
#1 because this is not a solo friendly game nor is this solo leveling the game
And
#2 because then bungie might actually do something
but it’s unfortunately one of their greatest missions so it’s hard to side with you weirdos on this one ⚖️ quite the conundrum by the way i have anxiety possibly somehow worse on call than in person (but thankfully i have friends 😋)
@@hardluckmk.52 You are part of the reason why people dont like LFGs or interacting with the community.
I have played this game solo except for the raids I've done. Solo Legend on LF and TFS. Dungeons you dont need comms if you know what you're doing. PVP maybe comms in Trials or Comp. GMs is like Dungeons.
The problem with this is advertising "you can farm this item" but left out how you'll get to the farm. They did this on purpose. Another problem is how the mission is set up.
1 person can be fully capable of doing the mission but you can fail because of the other player. That isnt fun or engaging its tedious and unnecessary.
Mix in how toxic this game is and you have people willing to give it a shot just to get into a game with someone who judges every single move they make and name calls. Why would that person go back for more?
You hoping everyone leaves that is mad Bungie PURPOSELY mislead people is part of the problem with the community. Since this is a multiplayer game you do know we still need people to play the multiplayer game right? People dont want to go into LFGs or FTF because they avoid people like you.
@@negan2714so don’t get the exotic and keep crying
@@wurp.alwaysit’s not crying to say one of Bungies selling points of the DLC was this exotic class item. For Bungie not to mention that in order to get it you must be in a duo team AND have a mic to do the mission. While I can find an LFG to do this, it would have been in Bungies best interests to be upfront on this. The forum is getting crushed with backlash for not allowing solo players to get the exotic class item.
As a solo player and had bad experience with fireteam finder guess I’m never getting this kinda sucks shit .
Honestly just doing stuff in the patrol pale heart is sm fun, I get caught like everyday atleast for an hour or two just exploring and running overthrow it’s the best destination imo
u can see his screen at 2:38 and theres literally 3 whole LFG post across the like half a million players. super accessible /s
so make one?? why do y’all act like that function is locked or something
@@samuelgregory4876 Oh wow, y didnt i and the literally hundreds of thousands of other people think that. oh wait.... ur so clueless its painful
@@nem0meimpunel8cessit Like, make one though??? Get out there and look for someone willing to run it with you???
Yay I got tricked into buying the dlc before I knew basic stuff like the exotic class item is not available for solo play. I honestly just want my money back at this point.
you should request a refund but you probably won''t do that either might trigger your social anxiety
@@s1mplyyuvi871 haha
@@s1mplyyuvi871 way to prove the issue isnt with the community...
I'd be happy to do the quest with you! Hit me up if you don't find anyone else c:
@@nem0meimpunel8cessit whiners and complainers when it can easily be solved don’t have my respect 🫡. legit just have to do the mission once and it drops from pale heart ppl fr doin way too much complaining
for any duos struggling due to the time constraints, a div cenotaph warlock, and a celestial still hunt hunter, is really good. getting really consistent 35 mins at a very casual pace. just killing what we need and playing it hella safe. the tormentors and subjugators get melted from still hunt when div is on them. bring a machine gun for add clear and some boss dps to hit the precision shots on the bosses :) it’s a really fun mission
With the episodes time trialed mission and the exotic class item mission being a time trial as well this feels like it’s just: Season of the Hurry Your Ass Up If You Want To Get Loot ft. Lmao Get Fucked Solo Players.
iv been a solo player since D1 iv only done 2-3 raids and never used my mic this stupid quest got me on discord with some random guy from LFG and we did it blind took us 2 hours and it was actually really fun we added each other after it was well worth it for that experience alone i got the titan belt with Hoil + Syntho and it is nasty
Yeap solo here and took FOREVER to finally get another person to do this sense again LFG does not have a listing for things in the pale heart! But this was kinda brutal- I need more of this kinda content!
Bungie really told solo players to make friends or you'll never get gear that was advertised.
Yeah that and the Heavy Trace I thinks need can't be done solo it looks like
My entire guild and every friend quit the game in Lightfall. I hate being forced to do content that could easily be adjusted solo with someone I don't know
Yep. And I love them for it.
I’m a solo player on warframe, why? Because the game allows it…how tf ppl still expect to play destiny 2 solo….even the crazy people who solo dungeons and raids have friends to play with destiny 2 is a very friend required game, you’re not gonna have fun otherwise believe me (or don’t)
it’s just that d2 sucks but sucks less with friends around…most of the time
@@moontreecollective6718you love being on your knees a lot, it shows
Did Bungie basically call us solo players bad so we need a partner? 😂
Ill be your partner...
@@SvenLorenz1975yes do that, if all the people moaning about it being unsoloable ran it together we wouldn’t have this problem
@@jubberdunkus2374 75% of player base is solo lol. You idiots won't have a game to play if they all leave.
As a returning casual seeing this just hurts. I don't have that kind of time to be able to grind to the appropriate light level. Much less get a second person to try and learn these mechanics with. Yet here's a crucial exotic armor piece that is a game changer locked behind high light and forced co-op timed mission. Again.
So a few things
1. For those complaining AT solo players. There are people literally with social anxiety. Literally a mental health condition. Your mother brought you up wrong if you are not open minded enough to understand that part. For the solo players w/o a mental condition. Grow a pair and LFG it.
2. For those saying this is not a good guide. He does explain by showing you and verbally confirming what to do in order. If you can’t understand, that’s literally on you.
3. This mission becomes incredibly easy after the first few runs and you LEARN what you’re doing. I did it with my clanmate and we clear this now in 30 mins or less, stop expecting everything to be given to you on a silver plater. Play the game, stop whinning. Literally if something’s too easy wahh. They make the game more difficult, wahhh. On top of pointing the finger at anyone else except self accountability. Lame af. Skill issue check?
4. As for farming. It truly is rng. I just spent a hour in the daily overthrow area and received 0. My clanmate however scored 1. This farm method is truthfully if you don’t ever want to do the mission again(which is nuts because it is the most fun and best exotic mission in a while)
So farm from chest at your own risk because it can get boring
THE WIZARDS ARE NOT SPAWNING FOR ME
its bugged or random chance my friend is having problems the same as u
I bet it's bugged 🤦🏻♀️😒 SMH
have you done the 12 man yet?
you have to have beaten the campaign on that character fully
Bungie releasing half baked content that most of the player base won’t do cuz it’s not solo friendly
I went in blind with my friend tonight. We went to the first clock in 2 attempt. We got tired of guessing and i am watching this video. Lol
Its a really cool mission.
New favorite exotic mission, very satisfying
I find it funny when they said “this is easy” while they are equipped with some of the best weapons, all maxed out, and some of the best adept armor. Like bro it’s easy when you have the right tools. For the average is not as easy
and they're at light level a week after the season started. Me and a couple dudes from my clan have been making runs and we're all around 1970. That shit hits like a GM. Got all the way to the final clock on the boss at the very end and ran out of time. i was pretty upset, no lie.
It was nothing but pain for me and my friend. That final part with the clock is so unforgiving with the amount of weavers that pull you. 😭😭
So it cant be done solo
Nope 😕
Eso will find a way 😂
@@tambuleeI don't think so without a ton of lucky guesses but some mechanics require two people to progress
@@tambuleeyou can’t even start the mission unless you have someone in the fireteam
Nope, happy to help if anyone wants it! Just hit me up
Ya, not doing all this for a jack of all trades random roll exotic when I've already got stronger builds than what's possible from that.
People who can’t read a hand clock punching air rn
Is it bugged for anyone else the wizard literally didn’t spawn at all for me
I can't get them to spawn in either
Make sure you’ve done all the locations first. That worked for me
One of the best things I’ve done this mission is great. And I love the idea of adding some 2 player activities. Not sure why people are complaining about 2 player activities when it’s easier to get 1 other than 2 other people for a challenging activity. It’s so much fun and not hard at all
Kinda feels like they advertised a raid exotic 😂. I'm sure most casual and returning players aren't gonna ever see this exotic. Kinda wish it was tied to the legendary campaign instead of those mid exotics we got to choose from. 🤷♂️
Hazardous propulsion is lowkey fire and the warlock helmet is legit bro wym
@@EldenPack I have the helm it's mid
@EldenPack compared to exotics we got from other legendary campaigns I mean
@EldenPack no matter if they are good or not still wish I could have gotten the class exotic from the legendary campaign
This mission has both of my gripes with Bungie mission design lol. They think timers equal difficulty. And, they pad out missions by making you do the same mechanic 3, 4 times. This is why Warlord’s Ruin was so great. It just was what it is. Can you imagine having to do Warlord’s Ruin with repeating the Winter mechanic present in every single encounter + a 30 min timer? 😂 It’s not hard, it’s Tedious. Just stretched out for no reason. No reason to reuse the same mechanic more than twice. Lol
Also, at this point… Dunking Orbs and Symbols is played out. If they never used those mechanics again, I wouldn’t miss them lol
Warlord Ruin’s final boss had a mix of the two previous encounters. Additionally, try to think of new ideas with a 10 year old game. Difficult isn’t it?
I had a lot of fun with this mission!
I wish alpha lupi was when your class ability is activated so you can get healing from thruster
Dammmn I thought that's what it was going to be
I have to play with someone even tho i love solo play its fine but the fact that its so long to complete for a ugly ass shower curtain i cant transmog is crazy 🤣
Les been actin really confident lately 😂
Guess this is the point where I go play other games. Well it was fun
Dramatic lol
welp... add one more thing to the list I won't be getting.. microcosm, the exotic class items, and any raid exotics..