Great review. The battery "sagged" under full throttle. Battery: 60V, 40Ah Removable Lithium Battery - Are the cells name brand? The website does not say. One good thing is that extra batteries are available, and in stock on the website. I would consider getting one
No electric vehicle will make the manufacturer’s claimed full range on top speed, even the Teslas can’t do that. You have to ask the manufacturer or refer to the manual to find out at what speed it can do 70miles. If the manufacturer told you this machine could do 70miles at full speed on a single charge then you have a point, if not then it’s probably a bad review.
ua-cam.com/video/beLqFC-pKgY/v-deo.html we agree this is a poor way to test range on an electric vehicle we tested ours at real-world speeds to get a fair number on the bike to be fair in our test I'm a larger rider and I know the bike would go even further with a lighter person
@@MistaSCARY not sure its a lie I think with a lighter rider riding on mode one it would make the advertised mileage but who is going to drive like that no one. but 40 miles is still pretty dang good we were pleased with the results
In California bikes need to be 50cc or more to be classified as a vehicle that will require Registration and plates with a tag, does not matter what sort of power generation is used.so if your going 43 mph you are under the radar.😉
30 real world miles kinda equates to 70 tester miles. I mean if you consider it's likely meant to be driven at 20 or 30 in residential neighborhoods with the ability to jump it up to 45 in an emergency it's possible in the right conditions. As long as you make the destinction that you're hammering it the entire time I think it's a fair review. As for the legality I'm guessing it really depends on the state. Some places are a bit more lenient than others so it pays to check local laws one power ratings and speeds for unlicensed vehicles, as well as Electric ones for that matter. Does it have a VIN?
It looks to be a pretty solidly built moped and I like the beefiness of it. I think I'd get one, even though stylistically it's kinda' not really cool looking. But I think with some modding it could resemble Shotaro Kaneda's bike from Akira. I really love your videos, I appreciate all the hard work that goes into them. You are a good egg, I think you are the only REAL AND HONEST ebike reviewer around. I hope you have a very happy, safe, and blessed Thanksgiving!
I found this video because I was searching for an Eahora Etwister M2 scooter… I’ve gotta say, looks extremely similar (tho I think the battery comes out the side, not under the seat). And if Eahora has a “low rider chopper” style scooter (they do), then Koppa probably does too (or, if not, and you want that style, you could always look at Eahora). Personally, I prefer this style. Feels like it’s not pretending to be something it’s not. Plus the step-through design is easier to sit on (especially if you strap luggage onto the back, otherwise you would have to swing your leg up and over groceries) and it just seems practical. With that said, Kaneda’s bike is iconic and totally awesome, and it would be sweet to see an eBike/moped that looks like that! If you put a lightweight shroud like that over the more low-rider style moped, you might even reduce drag! GL HF
2 years ago there were throngs of these in Malaysia on a Webb app similar to Amazon called Lazada. Yeah they sold for 3,800.... RINGGITS! - 4 ringgits to the dollar! So yeah... you go ahead and pay $3,800 for that. The price of tea in China.
If a Moped is under 50cc then it does not need a plate. That is why you see people that have had DUIs riding them. Since what you are riding has 0cc I don't think they can legally do anything yet.
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Just a quick pause: I don't fix valves as a full time job neither but damn, man... I ride a bike - I better be able to, at least, screw a valve in...
When it comes to the range they are probably doing the same crap most ebike company's do, and that is advertise it as a max 40mph but they do the max range at like 15mph or some crap close. A respectable company will rate the max range at the max speed they are selling the bike at, that way the buyer knows that if they run it at the max speed sold as they will get X range but if they run slower then they will get more. They need to take a page from Zero as in the say my zero S can goo 100miles per charge but the clearly specify that that is at 30 to 40 mph and not the 90 mph max the bike can do
well if you suggest mods for speed, you would have to change up to arrow handle bar styles like triathalon bicycles,,, but then you would lose the upright comfort posture of the arm chair ride.
Apparently, it’s not worth $4000 is worth $380 need the range they don’t think about the range. Say I need to travel from my place to work into my Second job on the weekends.
Well u legally need. Insurance and must be lisenced you must be 16 and older and have class D. Plus it's a helmet law bike in most states. Not worth 3500$. 2000 at best build is well but not if range is bad.
For this price I expected way more in my honest opinion from where I'm from for this price I can get u custom build scooters with more range and faster speed
Hey, I was wondering if driving that thing is legal where you live. Here in Italy we would definitely get fined a few thousand € (and it would get taken and destroyed by the police). We can't have scooters or bikes more powerful than 500w and 25kmph... So this is considered a moped that you are driving without plates, insurance and (often) proper gear
The right to mobility is vital for a individual's well being. In Canada, we are allowed to drive at a speed upto 40km per hour max. Where I live, I see giant farm tractors on sideroads traveling for many miles around to get to and from their farm fields and back home again. A orange triangle slow moving vehicle sign can be placed on the back of the vehicle even as is what those farmers do with their tractors when they drive on the sideroads that most people drive 80-90km per hour on. The one thing to consider is to not hold up traffic, by pulling over to the very edge of the side of the road to allow other vehicles to pass by. Also, there are people who use horse drawn carts that travel side roads around these farming zone locations, and according to what I read online, they are exempt from even requiring to have any visible slow moving vehicle signage attached to their vehicles, which I wonder why they don't want to show concerns for the safety and wellbeing of other people on public roads including themselves. Ya a helmet is typically used for 2 wheel vehicles. I just ordered that is going to be shipped on the 31st of this month after a 3 month waiting period, a J2 from Runhorse micro slow moving electric car that has only 1 seat upfront, though also able to put groceries behind that seat where there's apparently a tiny smidgen of a bench seat that appears to also have a seat belt. I was told by the seller that they are prohibited from shipping the vehicle to me with batteries, so I had to order it without batteries and will order some batteries locally upon arrival. Must be some sort of safety shipping regulation that Runhorse has to abide by when shipping to Ontario Canada. I have a Parkinsons MS painful condition that if I used a bike instead of a fully heated cabin type of vehicle, then it would cause my muscles to lock up and shake like a leaf as if in the rock video for Matt Mays - Tall Trees and that's so uncool when that happens. The Right To Mobility is a human right, and so is The Right To Freedom Of Speech, it's also worth noting. All the best to you, including those around you too. Please be safe, please be tomorrow. 🗽 #TheDigitalLifeguardProject-_-
@@ComputermanAM13 who makes up these stupid rules anyhow, smiley people who refuse to talk about the fact that accidents and homelessness frostbite and starvation and pandemics and pollution never produces afterlives and refuses to talk about that? Food for thought, incase your kitchen cupboards are full of empty plates and traditionally encouraged willful ignorance. Please be safe, please be tomorrow, vote very carefully, if and when allowed that i$, during The Farewell To King$. 🗽 Winter is coming. 👁️👁️ #MeToo #TheDigitalLifeguardProject-_-
wow 500w mines 1200 only just get up a hill by me at 15mph if was on a 500w i would be at 5mph what a joke i would never follow that white law it gets people killed
Yes, given that this is designed to be driven mostly around town(residential areas), you will probably only drive it at around 20-30 mph. This would increase the range quite a bit. But it is good that it has some headroom to go faster and you are not constantly pinning the throttle like on a 50cc scooter or equivalent electric scooter.
so that is a motorbike in europe. since scooters are limited to 45kmh and are 50cc often nowdays 4 stroke, i have seen one electric quad Hytrack MP4 that also fell into the 45kmh category. i also see sur-ron for sale but nobody knows what those are listed as they are not road legal for sure, but they dont classify as a bycycle but i would guy more like a dirt bike? sometimes americans are lucky that they can drive anything anywhere (depending on the state afcors)
@@reggiexp69 There is a road legal version of Su Rons for Europe that is limited to 45 km/h. It just uses a different software so it is easy to change it to unrestricted mode(for off-road use only of course 😉). But there are also other road legal electric motorcycles that can be registered in the 125cc class(A1 license).
@@marcelpursche5339 ah didnt know that afcors its easy to change the software or even the hole controller like them americans do amdn make it go 70MPH lol. ah also 125 cc licence bikes didnt know, im waiting for a good Electric quad, someday might be fun. not that i see that happening anytime soon...
We all EV users pretty much know that in the most of EVs specially this small ones you get about half to 60% of the range when hammering all the time so I think this one is pretty good
@@TheInja my delfast 3.0 goes way faster than that and go twice as long in the range. I got 150 miles with just the throttle. Do a another review about the delfast because you left out of alot of stuff about this ebike.
unless you look at lacroix boards, every one that i know that has one has gotten the advertised range or better surprisingly, and yes i own one myself and get advertised range and i mostly smash it full throttle.
Yep, as already stated, 50-60% of advertised range is common practice if you're floorin' it all the time. Even in a Tesla this is normal. So I'd say that their 70 mile advertised range is pretty normal for what they're selling people. It sorta grew on me since the last video also. I'm sorta diggin' it. Not enough to fork out that much dough on one, but hey, maybe if that's your thing, then who am I to judge.
If you go full throttle all the time, the max milage will be cut to around 60% of its maximum due to the efficiency of the battery and engine. Next time you can try 30mph. One other thing needs to be taken into consideration, lithium battery doesn't discharge well when the environment temperature is low.
not retally correct, at full speed the motor is drawing more current from the battery NOTHING TO DO WITH IN-EFFICIENCIES, its purely the faster you go the more current you draw, and lithium ion batterys have more issues charging when cold than discharging when cold, and drawing 1200-1400 Whr from the battery that battery WONT be cold!
Good video, but please show another range test using the same bike and same rider, driving with less aggressive acceleration at 15 mph max and see how much further you go. You might be surprised.
I have an electric scooter for about a year now. On the way home, the train became stuck. I had my scooter but it only made it about 5 or 6 miles before it melted to one bar of battery and reduced me to 6mph and eventually died. Making me think twice about electric. 25 mile range means I can only really go 10 or 12 miles so I have enough juice to get back home.
@@evshrug I had the hurdle motorgear scooter 🛴 350 watts. It was an “ok” scooter. Since then, I upgraded to the evercross scooter. Much better. If I had the evercross on the day the train crapped out, I probably would’ve made it all the way home.
I mean first you call it a motorcycle then you call it a moped which it’s very clearly NOT cause it has no pedals and now you’re calling it a scooter I mean great video but I’m pretty sure you’re getting all of us pretty confused here but it does look like a bit of a wowed motorcycle and is probably a little bit bit to out there to be called a scooter
My wife I both own two different models. The 3000 watt and the 2000 watt. Both bikes do well on sandy roads blacktop roads and concrete roads. I have over 200 miles on both bikes. Had no issues other than regular maintenance with keeping the bolts tight. Mine the 3000 watt is pretty fast and keeps up with city traffic. Battery last a long time and does not slow the bike down as you use up the power cell, steady flow of power. Mine rides two people just fine. I am 200 pound my with is 125 pounds. Bike still cruises along at 38 to 41 mph. The 3000 watt with my body weight will cruises at 38mph without taxing all the power 🔋 41 to 45 with open throttle. Climbs small hills with no effort. Great bike for small trips to the store or to work. But I like cruising the local state parks. Fits in a bike lane even with the luggage compartments I added
‘I am not a valve guy, i am not a valve specialist, I don’t fix valves full time.’ Did he say all of that? Goodness me! I don’t know with how much cringe people heard those lines.
Looking good (for a step thru e-scooter) Pretty prime geography for test reviews. FLAT... Where are you, Florida? 33mi @ 45mph makes this a good in town commuter, for sure! I'm guessing, slower starts and 35/40 speeds this would get more like 40mi, maybe?
The scooter will not be legal to ride on public street in Ohio, it exceeds the 20 mile speed limit and the motor exceed 1 horse power. Will you be find yes, but under Ohio law the can seize the scooter and they do. Why because the number of dirt bikes, mopids ATVs,and speeding "E bikes and scooters" are caught illegally using public roads.
Still seems like a nice commuter for around town in nice weather, but it's expensive. Replaceable battery packs are a big plus too. If you keep it might be fun to see if you can upgrade the pack for more range and speed like you do. 30 miles pushing it hard isn't that bad and it's fast enough to keep up with city traffic easily. If the price drops with time I bet they'll sell a bunch of them.
Street legality is an issue commonly ignored by people reviewing these evehicles. The majority of theses things (over 15mph) require full insurance, licence, lights, etc.
You were probably having such a good ride that you forgot how machines work. You don't get the same miles per gallon of gas on the drag track as on the highway. Your phone battery won't hold a charge for the same time off in your pocket as while in constant use. there's more than one way to use a watt. looks like a ginning’ ear to ear fun time! I‘d ride one.
I mention that in my videos all the time. But when will I be cruising at 15mph in the city on this thing? It tops out at normal city speeds and you have to use it to keep up.
I always liked that kind of e-scooters that are like a cruiser and I'm really digging that design. Ever since I saw these scooters in my vacation in Vietnam 5 years ago I kinda wanted one. If it was 3k it would be a more appealing offer.
I love the design but the battery life concerns me. I have an NIU UQI GT Pro. Got it a year ago. It's an electric moped, Chinese brand. I have to say I love mines. It is the equivalent of a 50cc moped so only does a max 30 mph, and 40 miles on 1 charge. It gets me to work and back and is true to it's claims. Also my EV was around the same price but here in the UK I got a massive discount by the government for going green. So in the end I paid just over 2k.
No offense to the person doing this video because I've heard a bunch of people (including law enforcement and even some state DMV's) call scooters "mopeds". A moped is a motorized vehicle that also has pedals which can propel it without the engine/electric motor. If there are no pedals that you can crank with your feet, it's NOT a moped. I realize that languages change over time, but the definition of a word shouldn't just be completely wrong...🤷♂️ Just my 2 cents...
Nice looking scooter except that seat, I’m sure they probably have different color options. I’m always curious about how these electric bikes do on long hill inclines. Anyways, that was a fair review. Happy thanksgiving 🍽
It's a 3kw motor on a 2kw(40ah) battery. Driving at 23 mph would draw 750w per hour for 3 hours(2kw usage) equals 70 miles range. It's easy to figure out range of electric vehicles by speed. 750w per hour gets you 23mph.... 1500 watts per hour gets you 32 mph..... 3000w per hour gets you 45 mph etc as long as vehicle weighs between 100-200lbs. every 2x of power draw gets you 35 percent faster speed. Anyone interested in a cheap and capable electric bike should wait for next year's Metacycle for 5k. it can get 80 miles range at 45mph with a top speed of 70-75mph. If you got money to burn you can achieve same basic specs as Metacycle 4kw(200 lbs) with Zero FXS 7.2kw(300lbs) for 12k. Except Zero can hit between 85-100 mph top speed with custom settings.
Having owned 2 ebikes, I've learned that mfr claims about max range are based on people who would be thin for China, traveling on perfectly smooth roads with no wind and no stop lights/signs (anorexic teen on a treadmill). Claimed 70 miles on a charge? Take your 30 miles real world and shaddap. It is what it is. Thanks for your always unbiased reviews.
I'm looking at importing some from China to Australia and the rated range is 70km per battery but when I visited the factory they looked at me (6" 90kg) and were like yeah 40km tops haha
That price is def too high, even for a year ago. I was about to buy one for $2k locally in socal around the same time. I ended up with the older model for $1,400 (looks like a mini chopper). The biggest difference is the battery size.
Wow it’s so funny how some guys don’t know which end of a hammer to hold, air valve specialist? If something is leaking try tightening it up with anything I use a pair of tweezers when I can’t find my air valve specialty tool, well he gave me a good laugh which makes it all good
If the UK snowflakes stfu we could get these here but that’s never gonna happen 😕 i would buy one for the US price but when tech companies sell items in both the US & UK we end up paying the same in £s as the US pays in $s
Currently costs £2,211.27 GBP for the UK, but it is not been defined what it is as what it is legally, whether it is classified as an Ebike or moped will make a hell of a difference in its up take.
I think it looks really cool and could always upgrade it to get 50+mph. It's a lot better looking than some of the E-Mopeds currently on sale here in the UK
A lot of valve stems caps actually have a core tool built into the back side of them. I'm surprised this doesnt. My CSC Monterey (~$2100 or so when I bought it) has one on each valve. Though those are tubes. Also I'm surprised it's not capable of being registered -- the CSC Monterey is though in my state it's considered a full electric motorcycle and not a motor-driven cycle... LOL I guess it doesn't have a VIN?
That’s respectful all of a sudden I can’t say what I want UA-cam you are an American company not Chinese remembered that UA-cam. Post it anyway,don’t tell me what’s respectful I know what’s respectful I’m probably three Times your age.
You must get them Titled and Registered. I'm dealing with mine as we speak. The first step is to get what's called an Enhanced inspection. Pre-Titled inspection, reason. "(Road worthiness)". If passed. The vehicle can then be Titled. Further, the certificate these vehicles come with can be lacking important data. I had to email Eahora and have them update the certificate to display Make, Model, Hp, Color, Style, date of manufacturer. All that data should be added to the certificate that has the Vin number on it. Technically, in most states a MCO is required, or Manufacturer Certificate of Origin.... This is why these vehicles are so hard to title. Cheers, hope this helps.
Pennsylvania -illegal over 742w - needs pedals as well to be considered and electrically assisted bicycle .. I hate my state but I found the loop hole 8years ago
Thank you for your video. I had the money stacked up and ready to call them Monday 3 days from now. But if it only gets 30 miles that would leave me at the grocery store with no way to get home. Just isn't going to work for me I'll need to wait for the technology to get a little better. Thank you again.
To be honest man, all EV bikes are Chinese EV bike, just say EV bikes with their names seems very reasonable. Will u say a Japanese car whenever deal with one? A German car? A South Korea Samsung phone? Adidas German shoes? There are many similar EV bikes review channels on YT, you are probably among the ones put Chinese in your title that often.
@@Steve-wo9uy Frame, yes. Probably components from China, I can't remember the name of the company. I do remember they could not get close to the prices of the imported bikes.
Been a while since I watched one of your videos, last time made me laugh when you did a piss-take (which made me laugh) out of British electric, to which we all replied we were inventing electric and electrical motors (Faraday) whilst you yanks were still "playing" with the Indians and you haven't had a come-back since.
I have had & still own a zhuma mothu e bike better known as a navagator its a 2018 model. Now after owning it for 4 years now the true spects of it all Price when new $2'80.80. I have done the full tillt throtle on this beast ( 888 lbs) on any vehicles if done so the range isnt that much . Using sealed lead acid batteries x6 of them 72 volts @ 20 amps . Top speed is 52 K.P.H. So 32 M.P.H for you . Any hoo it has replaced my gas hogging money grabing air pollution generous motors P.O.S. we do and go just about everywhere on it . hears the down side. Batteries are not easy removed Taking 1/3 of it apart to get to them. Heavy machine it is. Has hydrolic disk brakes . any hoo good luck be save couse its a crazy world out there.
Compared to my 1985 Honda gyroS gas powered scooter.(considered a motorized bicycle / no plate required) .as old as my scooter is,,,now a antique at only 30 mph. Now 42 mph with bigger rear tires. Your e scooter is useless. (A parking lot or race track pit bike at best).....I can travel 75mile on one gallon of gas with 10miles of reserve. And no need for hours of recharging on side of road..... the only thing great about your bike is, its longer for a more stable ride & seat is well made. The price for your scooter is way too high for distance availability only...2022 gas scooters of less quality start at $700. but your scooter is absolutely a great quality build otherwise. But I travel 100 mile trips at a time... that's one way. Your bike is fast but dies quickly... the adventure ends at 15 miles out.. to get safely back home.... I've driven my scooter from Denver Capitol to peublo royal gorge bridge in Colorado (way over200 miles one way at 33 mph pulling a small bike trailer, also Louisville Kentucky to Cincinnati Ohio and back...your scooter won't make it out of to your city limits at 25 mph and maybe 1.5 hours run time.. a power wheels toy car has same run time...I'd challenge the maker to do better... not because I'm a die hard scooter rider with a lot of different types of scooters. And would love to really test the true limits of a E-scooter. but because the consumer deserves a way better product for the money wanted. A brand new 2022 -49cc gas scooter (Chinese or not) is still a be better buy at $1400 ...with unlimited distance range at basically 30mph at $5.00 a gallon of gas. You get a A+ for your video...the scooter gets a D+ ... everything about the build quality is great. But who cares if about a well built bike can only go 20 miles away from home before the fun is over... you still have to find a charge outlet if the battery dies on the way home...
I think you did a great review on the Gator. And it had to be a pain in the butt dealing with the rear tire stem. I originally wanted the Harley Version of the scooter but got talked into Gator. I ordered it to use in campgrounds back in June but did not receive it until October. (Stuck on a ship in the Harbor). They want me to do a review but all the campgrounds are closed for the winter. I was able to register it as a moped because the Vin number is compliant with DOT. My total range has been around 50 miles and my top speed has averaged around 46 MPH. I like the Gator but I'm not a fan of the over weight steering and turning can be a little tricky.It also weights alot so transporting has to be done much like a motorcycle and not a EBike. I will try and do a review as soon as the campgrounds reopen but for now it's in storage until our temps in PA comes out of the 30's. Thanks for sharing. I would like to see a follow up and how it's holding up and maybe by then Koppla will change their minds about Green only as I have seen other colors.
@@evshrug Hello, Yes, I like the scooter and I have had people stop me to talk about it.. So far, so good.. I have taken it to a few parks and it preformed well. Good Luck it you are getting one, They are nice to ride but has one down fall.. You have no place to put item that you may pick up from the store.. It needs some sort of storage..
going max speed on any electric vehicle drains the battery super fast, just like my E-Bike if I got max speed it only gets maybe 7 miles but if I do like pedaling most of the way I can get like 50 miles or more
Thing is they were going 25mhp get 70 miles range and you were going 45mhp wholes time got 35 miles almost 40 Pull battery out bike n chager it overnight and test it aging im sure u will get over 35 to 40 miles range And that prices without us titles road tag not worth it unless it 1500 that about all unless u can get tag for it be 2k dollar unless have 120 miles range it worth 3400 with tag I could have got electric car for 5500 have 200 miles range 60mhp max with 4 seat plus ac n heat n tag petty much better I could try side vs side like Electric bike moped $4000 Vs Gas power 2 stroke moped 60cc $1200 Gas power going to win because 60mhp plus tag n 340 miles range
I never purchase anything over $50 bucks without watching as many reviews that I have time to watch. Why not? Your reviews on Nireeka helped me pull the trigger. It's almost pointless to advertise on cable anymore. It's awsome watching this market open up to ppl doing this kinda stuff. Whether it stays UA-cam or not this is the future of marketing. I'm dying to figure out my niche or partner with someone else for sure
Let me get this straight. You paid $3800 for that made in China thing, that topped out at 45 mph, and only has a range of 33 miles. That's crazy. I recently bought a new 2021 Genuine Buddy 125 for $3200, which was NOT made in China (it was made in Taiwan by PGO, and is easily comparable to any Japanese brand as far as quality goes) and tops out at 55+ mph and get 80+ mpg. Obviously since it is powered by an internal combustion engine, it has unlimited range. It also has a 2 year unlimited mileage on both parts and labor, and comes with a 1 year roadside assistance plan. Why anyone would choose a $3800 Chinese battery powered scooter with a 45 mph top speed and a 33 mile range over a $3200 Taiwan made high quality scooter that tops out at 55+ mph, gets 80+ mpg, has unlimited range, and has a 2 year parts and labor warranty blows my mind. Oh, and the Buddy has a large underseat storage compartment, and you can get a matching rear mounted color matched top box as an accessory.
my Taiwan days, I learned to ride on a Sanyang 125, classic style wire spoke motorcycle (international transmission) great to just leave it in gear for the mountain descents),,, only words on surviving Taiwan driving culture "follow old riders not young ones", great days 1990-1993. Great Quality in Taiwan, I had a China 150cc scooter 2008-2010 put 4000 miles on it, certainly some build quality issues, but drivetrain was ok. I think it was made around Shanghai.
One flat tire made me a specialist. Nice scooter, little steep tho. I had a Schwinn 1000 and it was useless.Dont say "Spot on" Yer not English. 33 mi at max speed?? I could live with it. Within 5 miles of my house, the speed limit is around 25-35 anyway.
Love the uncut unboxing approach,,,,sad that you aren’t DIY enough to have a $3 air valve tool,,,,,I know, I know,,,,,OK Boomer,,,,btw always keep my tires 10% over suggested,,,,makes a bit harsher ride though
Honestly, it doesn't seem like a bad bike but for four grand you can absolutely do better and there are $2,000 equivalents. And the way that the company acted... they killed it for me by being petty like that. Also police don't usually care about what they consider "mopeds", they're small and unassuming and really just can't do much in their eyes. I've had cops ignore me on my 250 with no tags but I've also been ticketed on my 50cc for the same reason so it's a gamble there not to mention it being only a matter of time before EV scooters are more regulated and if this isn't DOT certified than it simply can't be registered in the U.S. which makes it a glorified toy and also illegal to have on any public roads including your own neighborhood *Got stopped one time when I was learning on my first scooter in my neighborhood because they received a complaint of a suspicious vehicle and the officer told me he didn't give a crap but that it was still considered a public roadway and without registration I wasn't allowed on it.*
Great review. The battery "sagged" under full throttle. Battery: 60V, 40Ah Removable Lithium Battery - Are the cells name brand? The website does not say. One good thing is that extra batteries are available, and in stock on the website. I would consider getting one
that is what we did but the range test we did was more real world ua-cam.com/video/beLqFC-pKgY/v-deo.html
No electric vehicle will make the manufacturer’s claimed full range on top speed, even the Teslas can’t do that. You have to ask the manufacturer or refer to the manual to find out at what speed it can do 70miles. If the manufacturer told you this machine could do 70miles at full speed on a single charge then you have a point, if not then it’s probably a bad review.
Actually alot of the high end scooters do. These cheap ones are tested in eco mode.
@@PassiveLearner365 $3800 is a cheap scooter?
ua-cam.com/video/beLqFC-pKgY/v-deo.html we agree this is a poor way to test range on an electric vehicle we tested ours at real-world speeds to get a fair number on the bike to be fair in our test I'm a larger rider and I know the bike would go even further with a lighter person
They lie to get you to buy.
@@MistaSCARY not sure its a lie I think with a lighter rider riding on mode one it would make the advertised mileage but who is going to drive like that no one. but 40 miles is still pretty dang good we were pleased with the results
Your the only one who'd pay $4000 for that thing.
In California bikes need to be 50cc or more to be classified as a vehicle that will require Registration and plates with a tag, does not matter what sort of power generation is used.so if your going 43 mph you are under the radar.😉
I like the design of this scooter. Thank you for sharing.
Love your honest reviews bro ❤ 👌
much appreciated!
@@TheInja review the Soversky M8 Chopper Electric Scooter
30 real world miles kinda equates to 70 tester miles. I mean if you consider it's likely meant to be driven at 20 or 30 in residential neighborhoods with the ability to jump it up to 45 in an emergency it's possible in the right conditions. As long as you make the destinction that you're hammering it the entire time I think it's a fair review. As for the legality I'm guessing it really depends on the state. Some places are a bit more lenient than others so it pays to check local laws one power ratings and speeds for unlicensed vehicles, as well as Electric ones for that matter. Does it have a VIN?
Future reference, bottles of smaller tire fix a flat has that tool in the cap.
if you drove it conservatively and tried not to stop and limited the top speed you could have made the range. User error
It looks to be a pretty solidly built moped and I like the beefiness of it. I think I'd get one, even though stylistically it's kinda' not really cool looking. But I think with some modding it could resemble Shotaro Kaneda's bike from Akira. I really love your videos, I appreciate all the hard work that goes into them. You are a good egg, I think you are the only REAL AND HONEST ebike reviewer around. I hope you have a very happy, safe, and blessed Thanksgiving!
I found this video because I was searching for an Eahora Etwister M2 scooter… I’ve gotta say, looks extremely similar (tho I think the battery comes out the side, not under the seat). And if Eahora has a “low rider chopper” style scooter (they do), then Koppa probably does too (or, if not, and you want that style, you could always look at Eahora).
Personally, I prefer this style. Feels like it’s not pretending to be something it’s not. Plus the step-through design is easier to sit on (especially if you strap luggage onto the back, otherwise you would have to swing your leg up and over groceries) and it just seems practical.
With that said, Kaneda’s bike is iconic and totally awesome, and it would be sweet to see an eBike/moped that looks like that! If you put a lightweight shroud like that over the more low-rider style moped, you might even reduce drag! GL HF
What a strange bike, I like the color . Great video Inja.
Thanks dude!
seems about right for full throttle riding. half the specified range. 70km in lowest setting is how its usually rated.
2 years ago there were throngs of these in Malaysia on a Webb app similar to Amazon called Lazada. Yeah they sold for 3,800.... RINGGITS! - 4 ringgits to the dollar! So yeah... you go ahead and pay $3,800 for that. The price of tea in China.
Looks cool, I want one for an daily driver to and back from work
If a Moped is under 50cc then it does not need a plate. That is why you see people that have had DUIs riding them. Since what you are riding has 0cc I don't think they can legally do anything yet.
Just a quick pause: I don't fix valves as a full time job neither but damn, man... I ride a bike - I better be able to, at least, screw a valve in...
If you didn't get my point that's fine.
When it comes to the range they are probably doing the same crap most ebike company's do, and that is advertise it as a max 40mph but they do the max range at like 15mph or some crap close. A respectable company will rate the max range at the max speed they are selling the bike at, that way the buyer knows that if they run it at the max speed sold as they will get X range but if they run slower then they will get more. They need to take a page from Zero as in the say my zero S can goo 100miles per charge but the clearly specify that that is at 30 to 40 mph and not the 90 mph max the bike can do
That psi is way to low and on their website they say big tires won’t lose range but it will a lot and with that low psi it would just suck
That thing cost about 500 $ over here in Asia
Naked speed run! Or get Captain Kurt to do it! You know you wants too.
well if you suggest mods for speed, you would have to change up to arrow handle bar styles like triathalon bicycles,,, but then you would lose the upright comfort posture of the arm chair ride.
Other than the ridiculous looking handlebars I'd ride that scooter! hell, it beats what I have right now, lol.
Wow that car in the background look so dangerous.
Apparently, it’s not worth $4000 is worth $380 need the range they don’t think about the range. Say I need to travel from my place to work into my Second job on the weekends.
Not bad there showing 2899. On there site but they don't have any green left catch you later
It looks like the handlebars are bending slightly am I wrong
Well u legally need. Insurance and must be lisenced you must be 16 and older and have class D. Plus it's a helmet law bike in most states. Not worth 3500$. 2000 at best build is well but not if range is bad.
Cool video but honestly at 3800 u said right u could of gotten a really nice real motorcycle
Magnificent !
massive acceleration and high speed killed your max distance
For this price I expected way more in my honest opinion from where I'm from for this price I can get u custom build scooters with more range and faster speed
The display shows you how much you are drawing based on throttle…
Yep, the battery is sagging under full throttle, website does not say if the battery is premium cells or generic cells.
@@davidsonshine9678 They may not see the difference. All battery companies say they have premium cells. Lol
i cant see how this thing can cost 3.8 grand.
You'd probably get further if you were light on the throttle
I also probably get honked at more haha
You can make them faster whit a lil hack 😊
Pls do a review of ather 450xscooter.....pls pls
Is there anyway you could modify your e bikes to ride inside Walmart or in a hospital?
Hey, I was wondering if driving that thing is legal where you live. Here in Italy we would definitely get fined a few thousand € (and it would get taken and destroyed by the police). We can't have scooters or bikes more powerful than 500w and 25kmph... So this is considered a moped that you are driving without plates, insurance and (often) proper gear
The right to mobility is vital for a individual's well being.
In Canada, we are allowed to drive at a speed upto 40km per hour max.
Where I live, I see giant farm tractors on sideroads traveling for many miles around to get to and from their farm fields and back home again.
A orange triangle slow moving vehicle sign can be placed on the back of the vehicle even as is what those farmers do with their tractors when they drive on the sideroads that most people drive 80-90km per hour on. The one thing to consider is to not hold up traffic, by pulling over to the very edge of the side of the road to allow other vehicles to pass by.
Also, there are people who use horse drawn carts that travel side roads around these farming zone locations, and according to what I read online, they are exempt from even requiring to have any visible slow moving vehicle signage attached to their vehicles, which I wonder why they don't want to show concerns for the safety and wellbeing of other people on public roads including themselves.
Ya a helmet is typically used for 2 wheel vehicles. I just ordered that is going to be shipped on the 31st of this month after a 3 month waiting period, a J2 from Runhorse micro slow moving electric car that has only 1 seat upfront, though also able to put groceries behind that seat where there's apparently a tiny smidgen of a bench seat that appears to also have a seat belt. I was told by the seller that they are prohibited from shipping the vehicle to me with batteries, so I had to order it without batteries and will order some batteries locally upon arrival. Must be some sort of safety shipping regulation that Runhorse has to abide by when shipping to Ontario Canada.
I have a Parkinsons MS painful condition that if I used a bike instead of a fully heated cabin type of vehicle, then it would cause my muscles to lock up and shake like a leaf as if in the rock video for Matt Mays - Tall Trees and that's so uncool when that happens.
The Right To Mobility is a human right, and so is The Right To Freedom Of Speech, it's also worth noting.
All the best to you, including those around you too. Please be safe, please be tomorrow. 🗽
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500w you say......wow!..here in UK it's only 250w....so your better off than here.
@@Bodneyblue yeah 500 w for scooters but 250 for e-bikes, I think it's the same in all europe and england
@@ComputermanAM13 who makes up these stupid rules anyhow, smiley people who refuse to talk about the fact that accidents and homelessness frostbite and starvation and pandemics and pollution never produces afterlives and refuses to talk about that?
Food for thought, incase your kitchen cupboards are full of empty plates and traditionally encouraged willful ignorance.
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wow 500w mines 1200 only just get up a hill by me at 15mph if was on a 500w i would be at 5mph what a joke i would never follow that white law it gets people killed
70 Kmh converted is 43 miles, you got 33 because you floored it on highest settings. This is average for a 3000-5000w peak.
Yes, given that this is designed to be driven mostly around town(residential areas), you will probably only drive it at around 20-30 mph. This would increase the range quite a bit. But it is good that it has some headroom to go faster and you are not constantly pinning the throttle like on a 50cc scooter or equivalent electric scooter.
so that is a motorbike in europe.
since scooters are limited to 45kmh and are 50cc often nowdays 4 stroke, i have seen one electric quad Hytrack MP4 that also fell into the 45kmh category.
i also see sur-ron for sale but nobody knows what those are listed as they are not road legal for sure, but they dont classify as a bycycle but i would guy more like a dirt bike?
sometimes americans are lucky that they can drive anything anywhere (depending on the state afcors)
@@reggiexp69 There is a road legal version of Su Rons for Europe that is limited to 45 km/h. It just uses a different software so it is easy to change it to unrestricted mode(for off-road use only of course 😉).
But there are also other road legal electric motorcycles that can be registered in the 125cc class(A1 license).
@@marcelpursche5339 ah didnt know that afcors its easy to change the software or even the hole controller like them americans do amdn make it go 70MPH lol. ah also 125 cc licence bikes didnt know, im waiting for a good Electric quad, someday might be fun. not that i see that happening anytime soon...
We all EV users pretty much know that in the most of EVs specially this small ones you get about half to 60% of the range when hammering all the time so I think this one is pretty good
True! But as a commuter you kinda have to max it for street use if you want to keep up with traffic!
damn, so ill never make it to your mom's house on this thing? lol jk
@@TheInja my delfast 3.0 goes way faster than that and go twice as long in the range. I got 150 miles with just the throttle. Do a another review about the delfast because you left out of alot of stuff about this ebike.
unless you look at lacroix boards, every one that i know that has one has gotten the advertised range or better surprisingly, and yes i own one myself and get advertised range and i mostly smash it full throttle.
They seem to be worth less than half what they cost.
Yep, as already stated, 50-60% of advertised range is common practice if you're floorin' it all the time. Even in a Tesla this is normal. So I'd say that their 70 mile advertised range is pretty normal for what they're selling people.
It sorta grew on me since the last video also. I'm sorta diggin' it. Not enough to fork out that much dough on one, but hey, maybe if that's your thing, then who am I to judge.
If you go full throttle all the time, the max milage will be cut to around 60% of its maximum due to the efficiency of the battery and engine. Next time you can try 30mph. One other thing needs to be taken into consideration, lithium battery doesn't discharge well when the environment temperature is low.
not retally correct, at full speed the motor is drawing more current from the battery NOTHING TO DO WITH IN-EFFICIENCIES, its purely the faster you go the more current you draw, and lithium ion batterys have more issues charging when cold than discharging when cold, and drawing 1200-1400 Whr from the battery that battery WONT be cold!
Makes 0 sense you expect that (or any) bike go full range on full throttle. come on dude!!!!!
$3800 for that?? You could get a good used Kawasaki Meanstreak for that. Insane. 🤪🤣
30miles range sounds about right considering always going full-throttle,
will likely do 30-40miles if used in slower speed zones/city areas.
ua-cam.com/video/beLqFC-pKgY/v-deo.html we did a real world range test it did very well in my opinion
@@ParkHopTillWeDrop Don't spam your trash on another channel.
Good video, but please show another range test using the same bike and same rider, driving with less aggressive acceleration at 15 mph max and see how much further you go. You might be surprised.
Yea he could but no one’s gonna be going 15 mph for the whole 70 miles u may aswel get the bus
ua-cam.com/video/beLqFC-pKgY/v-deo.html thats how we did our range test
Who the hell wants to go 15 miles an hour I can run that fast
@@fraomedinaii2095 no you can’t
At 15 mph, you just need a bike then, not an electric one ! 😲
I have an electric scooter for about a year now. On the way home, the train became stuck. I had my scooter but it only made it about 5 or 6 miles before it melted to one bar of battery and reduced me to 6mph and eventually died. Making me think twice about electric. 25 mile range means I can only really go 10 or 12 miles so I have enough juice to get back home.
Yea, that's basic math my son is in grade school and his test questions look just like that
@@16driver16 boy, what a tough school
@@grazz7865 you did it the tough way you had to walk home he just did math on a paper
Wait, the train got stuck? Like… a part on the scooter, or the local mass transit train?
Which scooter do you have?
@@evshrug I had the hurdle motorgear scooter 🛴 350 watts. It was an “ok” scooter. Since then, I upgraded to the evercross scooter. Much better. If I had the evercross on the day the train crapped out, I probably would’ve made it all the way home.
I mean first you call it a motorcycle then you call it a moped which it’s very clearly NOT cause it has no pedals and now you’re calling it a scooter I mean great video but I’m pretty sure you’re getting all of us pretty confused here but it does look like a bit of a wowed motorcycle and is probably a little bit bit to out there to be called a scooter
Wow that is one cool looking machine ! ❤
Happy Thanksgiving Inja...🦃🦃
My wife I both own two different models. The 3000 watt and the 2000 watt.
Both bikes do well on sandy roads blacktop roads and concrete roads.
I have over 200 miles on both bikes. Had no issues other than regular maintenance with keeping the bolts tight. Mine the 3000 watt is pretty fast and keeps up with city traffic. Battery last a long time and does not slow the bike down as you use up the power cell, steady flow of power. Mine rides two people just fine. I am 200 pound my with is 125 pounds. Bike still cruises along at 38 to 41 mph. The 3000 watt with my body weight will cruises at 38mph without taxing all the power 🔋 41 to 45 with open throttle. Climbs small hills with no effort.
Great bike for small trips to the store or to work. But I like cruising the local state parks. Fits in a bike lane even with the luggage compartments I added
‘I am not a valve guy, i am not a valve specialist, I don’t fix valves full time.’ Did he say all of that? Goodness me! I don’t know with how much cringe people heard those lines.
They work out the "max range" by testing it on a flat surface in eco mode, never trust the max range.
Looking good (for a step thru e-scooter) Pretty prime geography for test reviews. FLAT... Where are you, Florida? 33mi @ 45mph makes this a good in town commuter, for sure! I'm guessing, slower starts and 35/40 speeds this would get more like 40mi, maybe?
The scooter will not be legal to ride on public street in Ohio, it exceeds the 20 mile speed limit and the motor exceed 1 horse power. Will you be find yes, but under Ohio law the can seize the scooter and they do. Why because the number of dirt bikes, mopids ATVs,and speeding "E bikes and scooters" are caught illegally using public roads.
Still seems like a nice commuter for around town in nice weather, but it's expensive. Replaceable battery packs are a big plus too. If you keep it might be fun to see if you can upgrade the pack for more range and speed like you do. 30 miles pushing it hard isn't that bad and it's fast enough to keep up with city traffic easily.
If the price drops with time I bet they'll sell a bunch of them.
yeah at 3k this one would be a nice offer.
@@NineDiamontA year later and I've found it for 2,999$. Am buying but not until summer 2024. Perhaps even a few more 100$ less by then
Street legality is an issue commonly ignored by people reviewing these evehicles. The majority of theses things (over 15mph) require full insurance, licence, lights, etc.
You were probably having such a good ride that you forgot how machines work.
You don't get the same miles per gallon of gas on the drag track as on the highway. Your phone battery won't hold a charge for the same time off in your pocket as while in constant use. there's more than one way to use a watt.
looks like a ginning’ ear to ear fun time! I‘d ride one.
I mention that in my videos all the time. But when will I be cruising at 15mph in the city on this thing? It tops out at normal city speeds and you have to use it to keep up.
I always liked that kind of e-scooters that are like a cruiser and I'm really digging that design.
Ever since I saw these scooters in my vacation in Vietnam 5 years ago I kinda wanted one.
If it was 3k it would be a more appealing offer.
They're on sale for $2700 sometimes
Legally I don't think you can call that a moped. That's moPED which is MOtorcycle w/ PEDals.
Well hell, if the cops dont give you no shit im buying one for drunk beer runs!
You can't be trusted in anything you say. That is not a moped! It can NOT BE A MOPED because there are no peddles.
Lol okay dude
Exactly!
I love the design but the battery life concerns me. I have an NIU UQI GT Pro. Got it a year ago. It's an electric moped, Chinese brand. I have to say I love mines. It is the equivalent of a 50cc moped so only does a max 30 mph, and 40 miles on 1 charge. It gets me to work and back and is true to it's claims. Also my EV was around the same price but here in the UK I got a massive discount by the government for going green. So in the end I paid just over 2k.
No offense to the person doing this video because I've heard a bunch of people (including law enforcement and even some state DMV's) call scooters "mopeds". A moped is a motorized vehicle that also has pedals which can propel it without the engine/electric motor. If there are no pedals that you can crank with your feet, it's NOT a moped. I realize that languages change over time, but the definition of a word shouldn't just be completely wrong...🤷♂️
Just my 2 cents...
thanks
Should call your mechanic cousin if you need help with stuff like that cuz!
Nice looking scooter except that seat, I’m sure they probably have different color options. I’m always curious about how these electric bikes do on long hill inclines. Anyways, that was a fair review. Happy thanksgiving 🍽
Keep up the good work man been watching your channel for a long time now!
Glad to have you!
It's a 3kw motor on a 2kw(40ah) battery. Driving at 23 mph would draw 750w per hour for 3 hours(2kw usage) equals 70 miles range. It's easy to figure out range of electric vehicles by speed. 750w per hour gets you 23mph.... 1500 watts per hour gets you 32 mph..... 3000w per hour gets you 45 mph etc as long as vehicle weighs between 100-200lbs. every 2x of power draw gets you 35 percent faster speed. Anyone interested in a cheap and capable electric bike should wait for next year's Metacycle for 5k. it can get 80 miles range at 45mph with a top speed of 70-75mph. If you got money to burn you can achieve same basic specs as Metacycle 4kw(200 lbs) with Zero FXS 7.2kw(300lbs) for 12k. Except Zero can hit between 85-100 mph top speed with custom settings.
ua-cam.com/video/beLqFC-pKgY/v-deo.html we did a more realistic test our numbers were more inline
What do you think about the Eahora M1ps
Having owned 2 ebikes, I've learned that mfr claims about max range are based on people who would be thin for China, traveling on perfectly smooth roads with no wind and no stop lights/signs (anorexic teen on a treadmill). Claimed 70 miles on a charge? Take your 30 miles real world and shaddap. It is what it is. Thanks for your always unbiased reviews.
much appreciated!
I'm looking at importing some from China to Australia and the rated range is 70km per battery but when I visited the factory they looked at me (6" 90kg) and were like yeah 40km tops haha
That price is def too high, even for a year ago. I was about to buy one for $2k locally in socal around the same time. I ended up with the older model for $1,400 (looks like a mini chopper). The biggest difference is the battery size.
You check out the m1ps?
even if I like real MCs a bit more I must say I found this one super cool like a mini-cruiser with a bobber touch :) just awesome
Wow it’s so funny how some guys don’t know which end of a hammer to hold, air valve specialist? If something is leaking try tightening it up with anything I use a pair of tweezers when I can’t find my air valve specialty tool, well he gave me a good laugh which makes it all good
That's good
get on with it, you talk too much, this is why i don't like watching your videos
If the UK snowflakes stfu we could get these here but that’s never gonna happen 😕 i would buy one for the US price but when tech companies sell items in both the US & UK we end up paying the same in £s as the US pays in $s
Maybe if we glued ourselves to the road more ?
Currently costs £2,211.27 GBP for the UK, but it is not been defined what it is as what it is legally, whether it is classified as an Ebike or moped will make a hell of a difference in its up take.
Bring back the dislike button UA-cam
Lol!
Spray soapy water on it too see if it still does or doesn't work lol
I think it looks really cool and could always upgrade it to get 50+mph. It's a lot better looking than some of the E-Mopeds currently on sale here in the UK
There are actually something called "hills" where a lot of people live. That would be a very important part of the over-all test.
Loved this scooter. Do you have the Super Soco range of bikes over there?
A lot of valve stems caps actually have a core tool built into the back side of them. I'm surprised this doesnt.
My CSC Monterey (~$2100 or so when I bought it) has one on each valve. Though those are tubes.
Also I'm surprised it's not capable of being registered -- the CSC Monterey is though in my state it's considered a full electric motorcycle and not a motor-driven cycle... LOL
I guess it doesn't have a VIN?
All greenslime also comes with a plastic one.
That’s respectful all of a sudden I can’t say what I want UA-cam you are an American company not Chinese remembered that UA-cam. Post it anyway,don’t tell me what’s respectful I know what’s respectful I’m probably three Times your age.
You must get them Titled and Registered. I'm dealing with mine as we speak. The first step is to get what's called an Enhanced inspection. Pre-Titled inspection, reason. "(Road worthiness)". If passed. The vehicle can then be Titled. Further, the certificate these vehicles come with can be lacking important data. I had to email Eahora and have them update the certificate to display Make, Model, Hp, Color, Style, date of manufacturer. All that data should be added to the certificate that has the Vin number on it. Technically, in most states a MCO is required, or Manufacturer Certificate of Origin.... This is why these vehicles are so hard to title. Cheers, hope this helps.
Pennsylvania -illegal over 742w - needs pedals as well to be considered and electrically assisted bicycle .. I hate my state but I found the loop hole 8years ago
Thank you for your video. I had the money stacked up and ready to call them Monday 3 days from now. But if it only gets 30 miles that would leave me at the grocery store with no way to get home. Just isn't going to work for me I'll need to wait for the technology to get a little better. Thank you again.
To be honest man, all EV bikes are Chinese EV bike, just say EV bikes with their names seems very reasonable. Will u say a Japanese car whenever deal with one? A German car? A South Korea Samsung phone? Adidas German shoes? There are many similar EV bikes review channels on YT, you are probably among the ones put Chinese in your title that often.
There are actually some American EV bike makers.
@@JasonWW2000 assambled and branded, but actual parts? Wheel? Battery? Motor? Frame?
@@Steve-wo9uy Frame, yes. Probably components from China, I can't remember the name of the company. I do remember they could not get close to the prices of the imported bikes.
People hating but they be buying one wheel pints for the same price having 4 miles range. Or boosted boards. Or any other overkill priced brand
30miles is probably for 100lbs Rider 🤔
So far Elon musk is the only one who can make a electric car manufacturing company work 🤣😂🤣😂 everyone else is just making big battery powered flares
Been a while since I watched one of your videos, last time made me laugh when you did a piss-take (which made me laugh) out of British electric, to which we all replied we were inventing electric and electrical motors (Faraday) whilst you yanks were still "playing" with the Indians and you haven't had a come-back since.
being road legal in UK will be a major problem........you would ATTRACT Police ! Licence , insurance MOT , lights etc etc etc
I have had & still own a zhuma mothu e bike better known as a navagator its a 2018 model.
Now after owning it for 4 years now the true spects of it all
Price when new $2'80.80. I have done the full tillt throtle on this beast ( 888 lbs) on any vehicles if done so the range isnt that much .
Using sealed lead acid batteries x6 of them 72 volts @ 20 amps .
Top speed is 52 K.P.H.
So 32 M.P.H for you .
Any hoo it has replaced my gas hogging money grabing air pollution generous motors P.O.S. we do and go just about everywhere on it . hears the down side.
Batteries are not easy removed
Taking 1/3 of it apart to get to them. Heavy machine it is. Has hydrolic disk brakes . any hoo good luck be save couse its a crazy world out there.
Smaller handlebars would be better i think .
That seems an easy swap. No need to modify the wiring or hoses.
Compared to my 1985 Honda gyroS gas powered scooter.(considered a motorized bicycle / no plate required) .as old as my scooter is,,,now a antique at only 30 mph. Now 42 mph with bigger rear tires. Your e scooter is useless. (A parking lot or race track pit bike at best).....I can travel 75mile on one gallon of gas with 10miles of reserve. And no need for hours of recharging on side of road..... the only thing great about your bike is, its longer for a more stable ride & seat is well made. The price for your scooter is way too high for distance availability only...2022 gas scooters of less quality start at $700. but your scooter is absolutely a great quality build otherwise. But I travel 100 mile trips at a time... that's one way. Your bike is fast but dies quickly... the adventure ends at 15 miles out.. to get safely back home.... I've driven my scooter from Denver Capitol to peublo royal gorge bridge in Colorado (way over200 miles one way at 33 mph pulling a small bike trailer, also Louisville Kentucky to Cincinnati Ohio and back...your scooter won't make it out of to your city limits at 25 mph and maybe 1.5 hours run time.. a power wheels toy car has same run time...I'd challenge the maker to do better... not because I'm a die hard scooter rider with a lot of different types of scooters. And would love to really test the true limits of a E-scooter. but because the consumer deserves a way better product for the money wanted. A brand new 2022 -49cc gas scooter (Chinese or not) is still a be better buy at $1400 ...with unlimited distance range at basically 30mph at $5.00 a gallon of gas. You get a A+ for your video...the scooter gets a D+ ... everything about the build quality is great. But who cares if about a well built bike can only go 20 miles away from home before the fun is over... you still have to find a charge outlet if the battery dies on the way home...
I think you did a great review on the Gator. And it had to be a pain in the butt dealing with the rear tire stem. I originally wanted the Harley Version of the scooter but got talked into Gator. I ordered it to use in campgrounds back in June but did not receive it until October. (Stuck on a ship in the Harbor). They want me to do a review but all the campgrounds are closed for the winter. I was able to register it as a moped because the Vin number is compliant with DOT. My total range has been around 50 miles and my top speed has averaged around 46 MPH. I like the Gator but I'm not a fan of the over weight steering and turning can be a little tricky.It also weights alot so transporting has to be done much like a motorcycle and not a EBike. I will try and do a review as soon as the campgrounds reopen but for now it's in storage until our temps in PA comes out of the 30's. Thanks for sharing. I would like to see a follow up and how it's holding up and maybe by then Koppla will change their minds about Green only as I have seen other colors.
Hey, I’m in PA too! Is the scooter treating you well?
@@evshrug Hello, Yes, I like the scooter and I have had people stop me to talk about it.. So far, so good.. I have taken it to a few parks and it preformed well. Good Luck it you are getting one, They are nice to ride but has one down fall.. You have no place to put item that you may pick up from the store.. It needs some sort of storage..
going max speed on any electric vehicle drains the battery super fast, just like my E-Bike if I got max speed it only gets maybe 7 miles but if I do like pedaling most of the way I can get like 50 miles or more
Thing is they were going 25mhp get 70 miles range and you were going 45mhp wholes time got 35 miles almost 40
Pull battery out bike n chager it overnight and test it aging im sure u will get over 35 to 40 miles range
And that prices without us titles road tag not worth it unless it 1500 that about all unless u can get tag for it be 2k dollar unless have 120 miles range it worth 3400 with tag
I could have got electric car for 5500 have 200 miles range 60mhp max with 4 seat plus ac n heat n tag petty much better
I could try side vs side like
Electric bike moped $4000
Vs
Gas power 2 stroke moped 60cc $1200
Gas power going to win because 60mhp plus tag n 340 miles range
I never purchase anything over $50 bucks without watching as many reviews that I have time to watch. Why not? Your reviews on Nireeka helped me pull the trigger. It's almost pointless to advertise on cable anymore. It's awsome watching this market open up to ppl doing this kinda stuff. Whether it stays UA-cam or not this is the future of marketing. I'm dying to figure out my niche or partner with someone else for sure
Let me get this straight. You paid $3800 for that made in China thing, that topped out at 45 mph, and only has a range of 33 miles. That's crazy. I recently bought a new 2021 Genuine Buddy 125 for $3200, which was NOT made in China (it was made in Taiwan by PGO, and is easily comparable to any Japanese brand as far as quality goes) and tops out at 55+ mph and get 80+ mpg. Obviously since it is powered by an internal combustion engine, it has unlimited range. It also has a 2 year unlimited mileage on both parts and labor, and comes with a 1 year roadside assistance plan. Why anyone would choose a $3800 Chinese battery powered scooter with a 45 mph top speed and a 33 mile range over a $3200 Taiwan made high quality scooter that tops out at 55+ mph, gets 80+ mpg, has unlimited range, and has a 2 year parts and labor warranty blows my mind. Oh, and the Buddy has a large underseat storage compartment, and you can get a matching rear mounted color matched top box as an accessory.
my Taiwan days, I learned to ride on a Sanyang 125, classic style wire spoke motorcycle (international transmission) great to just leave it in gear for the mountain descents),,, only words on surviving Taiwan driving culture "follow old riders not young ones", great days 1990-1993. Great Quality in Taiwan, I had a China 150cc scooter 2008-2010 put 4000 miles on it, certainly some build quality issues, but drivetrain was ok. I think it was made around Shanghai.
My moped wasn't made in the USA, it was made in Texas, yee haw
One flat tire made me a specialist. Nice scooter, little steep tho. I had a Schwinn 1000 and it was useless.Dont say "Spot on" Yer not English. 33 mi at max speed?? I could live with it. Within 5 miles of my house, the speed limit is around 25-35 anyway.
Love the uncut unboxing approach,,,,sad that you aren’t DIY enough to have a $3 air valve tool,,,,,I know, I know,,,,,OK Boomer,,,,btw always keep my tires 10% over suggested,,,,makes a bit harsher ride though
Honestly, it doesn't seem like a bad bike but for four grand you can absolutely do better and there are $2,000 equivalents. And the way that the company acted... they killed it for me by being petty like that. Also police don't usually care about what they consider "mopeds", they're small and unassuming and really just can't do much in their eyes. I've had cops ignore me on my 250 with no tags but I've also been ticketed on my 50cc for the same reason so it's a gamble there not to mention it being only a matter of time before EV scooters are more regulated and if this isn't DOT certified than it simply can't be registered in the U.S. which makes it a glorified toy and also illegal to have on any public roads including your own neighborhood *Got stopped one time when I was learning on my first scooter in my neighborhood because they received a complaint of a suspicious vehicle and the officer told me he didn't give a crap but that it was still considered a public roadway and without registration I wasn't allowed on it.*