As an owner of a Solar scooter for over 1year now, i just want to add my tricks/knowledge for better range. 1. Keep it always on dual motor as it spreads the power equally on both motor s and this way will save more energy rather then putting all the effort on one. 2. Always have your electric breaks set on the highest, this way every time you break it will generate power back. (Especially when you go downhill use the momentum to generate power back rather then going full speed down) 3. This 3rd one is a weird one but it works for me, I keep my scooters specs on its highest so- gear 3/dual motor/ turbo, this way you can ride fast only when need it and not accelerate constantly, so it gives you a momentum to keep the scooter going,,, trust me its still fun and you will get longer range plus remember the road its not always flat you may have lots of downhills so not much power needed
I have a Wolf King 1st day I got it went dead going like 45mph lol. With these dual motor scooters for max range just use the dual motors for traffic merging and getting up to speed then switch to single motor non turbo...cruising at 36mph or so is still a Blast and gives you range for days.
@@keronfarrier2198 Go relaxed and you'll get about 60 miles. Just to warn you there will be a few things where Kaabo have taken a step back. E.g. takes a few seconds to boot up, doesn't remember what mode you were on last time etc.
Nice review, I’m considering modes of transport before I get a car and this is a good candidate. I like that it allows you to stand and sit with an attachable seat. It goes fast enough with one motor, so I might consider this scooter. Looking forward to more reviews related to this.
Bro 3000 plus for a scooter is absolutely mad it’s not a car replacement it’s a fun toy at best not practical, dependable, or safe not trying to be negative I just wish these quality ones were a third of the price
@@wrnowown never said I was actually gonna get it lol, I have my brother's bike that I need to save up for parts to fix it and then convert it into a rear or mid drive motor with a twist throttle. Only thing is I got a weekend job and saving up for that will take a few months, maybe a year or so.
@@wrnowown I agree the prices are ridiculous but I see it as being better than a car or motorcycle for parking, theft and no insurance. Nice and easy to jump on a sidewalk or the grass in heavy traffic. 60mph scooter is crazy with tiny tires but a 40mph would be enough to meet most people's needs. Just makes sure to get one with ABS brakes for rainy days.
This thing looks awesome! I ride a Kawasaki Z400 on a daily basis and i would totally have one of these. Sad that companies like Sondors and Zero can't deliver a product like this that actually goes 60mph as advertised and doesn't cost $15,000. Sheeeesh. Thanks for the vid
Totally impressed. Im a long haul truck driver and that thing its perfect for when im shut down for the day . I can explore the city im in or just go out to dinner . You cant just park a semi any where so that thing is perfect for me . How much does it weigh. Looks like I could just pick it up and put it in my sleeper
Ya if you don’t care about Dieing on the road maybe… I’ve been seeing SO MANT accidents in my city on these scooters… I ended up buying one. But I’m scared on the thing. It goes maybe 25 mph. And that is Scary fast. 60 mph is just crazy. PLEASE think hard about it and If you do buy one take EXTREME caution when riding. Cheers!
@@growmiezhomiez8760 Especially if he lives in America... People drive like maniacs here... No regards for human life on the road.. Everyone drives like they have a deathwish or out to kill someone... It's insanity
Yes my friend that scooter is sweet and I think you're gunna need a bigger garage very soon brother but that's not a bad problem to have and ye the scooter looks wicked at night 😀
Maybe the battery got damaged sitting for such a long time with very low voltage on your garage, It explains the short-range and the massive voltage sag. Also, Street tires can make the range at least 10% longer. Thanks for the test. Amazing as Always!
Saw a guy on one of those going around 45 to 50mph on Genese Ave in La Jolla . mANN, THAT IS FAST for that type of position of standing up. You would have to keep in mind the serious FUBAR moment of a sudden stop and there are a lt of things that is out there. I love the E craze but I have to remind myself The Need For Speed must come in as Safety the most important aspect to apply. Its cool seeing guy on that scooter and I hope all of ya stay safe. Serious, for that type of speed I kinda need a back tail skid to have a chance so e bike fits it.
at 20 mph i bit it after over 1000 miles on scooter from a quick front tire pop up and dropping it with handle bars still angled. worst wipeout of all sports and life for me. rib and wrist ouch! knee , knuckle, shoulder , temple, chin. everytime i bump into something new ouch. gear up.
@@TomkatzEnt I got a 350watt Gear E Bike with ,2000watt Gearless DD Turbo Boost Accelerator I use to double up my cruise control to 40mph. But overall I've learned top speed is an obstacle of overall safety and hardware abuse( regular 2 inch bike tires not really used to go consistent top speed as they end up of the pressure being abused when riding over rough terrain of the roads, even turning with throttle pushed puts stress on bike tube of the inner sleeve of rim as rotation off throttle puts serious pressure on sides of tires. I know because happen to me 3 times of same area and over use of throttle,) I now ride E bike when encountering the bumps, dips, potholes , curb entry driveways the same as a Car of easing up all the time( we don't speed in cars the same way of bikes, lol) And yeah, you wipe out going 20mph and higher you best have motorcycle helmet over plastic bike cap. I only go full speed on long straightaway path of destination or to ensure power of top speed is fitted for use of pulling extra cargo weight like how I do use. You can't ride around e bike the same way you would with regular bike as we as kids rode thru anything and everything of no concern, but it was using just pedals. It's more then having e bike of going fast, it is more like knowing your e bike or scooter of high speeds creates more abuse on the parts of the e bike or scooter. For tires, anything around 2 inches width you must approach the use of speed of maintaining your bike from getting abused to avoid replacing parts on bikes as in the tires is the majority of the e bikes unless the tires are 3 to 4 inches wide which is pretty much the standard of the use. Nothing wrong if ya stuck with 2 inch tires, you jus need to Ride more cautious overall of avoiding certain times of using top speed. Stay safe and aware , all of US
That is a great scooter, I have almost the exact same, a little less extras yet the rest is clearly the same. I have had it for close to a year now and I am still amazed how powerful it is and as importantly, it can go everywhere a car can go, and then some, down some stairs for instance hehe. I even used it this winter on ice and snow here in Norway. 60 mph though, I am not so sure about that, it may go that fast yet then you certainly will need to change tires and preferably add a steering dampener, otherwise you are going to crash as it looses stability due to wheel wobble at around 50 km/h. It may go that fast if you are light and crazy and also change to street tires and mount steering dampeners, I would not recommend it though. The fastest I have ridden it is 80 km/h. Normally I cruise comfortably at around 30 to 40 km/h.
Man i wish i had these as a young kid, i was riding a 100cc scooter which could do up to 45 mph and now you can get electric scooters that do 60mph its maddd
Be careful switching from single to dual motor and eco and turbo at speeds, you can damage the controller severely. It is best to switch this mode when you are stopped or simply rolling slowly.
I noticed that too, I mean, I was unaware it could damage the controller, yet I have to let go of the throttle and then push the 2WD button to make it work.
Could you explain a little more why? I have a small scooter that does max 18mph but it still has low, medium and high speed mode settings which I usually change when going on the sidewalk, so is it bad on those lower speeds too? Thanks!
This has to be one of the best e scooters in the game man and I was also pleasantly surprised it came with extra brake pads, very cool on the companies part for providing extras because clearly with the speeds and power this scooter produces those brake pads understandably wear out quick I’m sure lol Dam I want one so bad it seems so comfortable for a machine that is def not meant to be by any means lol
@@bmwloco Lol obviously since I kept typing “pads” after break right????, so yes I think I meant “brake” pads too. It’s because Of the auto correct on my phone, you wasted a min of your life to reply something so obvious? You sound way dumber correcting me than me putting break instead of brake 😩😂🙈 I corrected it for ya 😉
@@nickpapagiorgio5056 The Solar R1 for example is a VDM-10 that's made in China and around 6 other big brands also use that design. The Solar FF is a redesigned Zero 11x and also looks like the Nanrobot d7.
It seems that the sense of stability at high speed is good. You look amazing. I want to ride. When I exceed 60km / h, the front tires start to run wild.
I can tell you why your scooter died because it happened to me all the time just as you described on my Zero 10x 60V. It's a controller overheat when you ride hard. It's got a safety that temporarily shuts off the controller for about 5-10 min if the temp gets to high to protect it against burning up. My vendor kept sending me new controllers but they all did this. So in the end they let me return it. Apparently I ride too hard for that type of controller and they could not mitigate the problem. I ended up getting a Nami Burn-e instead which has the controllers on the outside (more cooling) and they are overrated for a wapping 100Amps (less likely to overheat). Also the programming on overheat makes them go into a lower performance mode rather than shut off. And yea, this goes for all scooters, with luck, you're only going to get half the rated range if you ride hard (AKA normal). For the advertised range you have to go 15mph max, no hills, no stops, with tail wind, which is ridiculous. In a few months, the range will settle well below half advertised after you ware the battery a bit.
Do not charge full. That why I recommend people buying escooter before all in for ev. The battery should be always between 20% to 80% to preserve battery life. If you do 100% - 5% each cycle, you only get 50-100 cycles then the battery dead. You do 20 to 80 you have 500+ cycles. I daily commute on my electric unicycle for over a year now and it range is very slightly decreased becoz I learned the lesson from my previous ebike/escooter. I fully charged my escooter it can go 25 miles. I charged it up and let it sit for 1 month. It can go 20 now. I permanently lost 20% range. My euc was broken and I left it at 60% while waiting for parts. A month later I got exactly the same range as before. My point is any battery powered vehicle has the usable range 60% of advertised range and it's in ideal situation. I would say Tesla mode 3 claims to have 300 mile range, but the real range you can use daily in a charge is only 300x 40% = 120 mile. It's less than 2 hours driving. You left home at 80% so it's 240 mile range. You charge it when it's close to 20% so no lower than 60 mile. Computer range is 240-60=180. Then you use Bluetooth AC driving a bit faster like 75mph, the real range is only 120-140. So no ev for me. Waiting for a 600 mile range ev under 50k USD hopefully in 10 years but I lose faith in humanity already
Nahh give it some credit, I have got 50 miles out of mine doing a constant 25mph dual motor eco mode. And the cut off does happen once you hit below 45ish volts, This is the voltage cut off point for the BMS.. Like on any e-vehicle battery worth it's salt!
I forgot to sub to you on my new channel and holy smokes it's awesome to see how much you have grown and flourished. Congrats on 200k, been with you for a long time!
That's like a Hellcat in a scooter. Would be interesting to put that set up on the beefier scooter you just tested with the bigger frame and tires. 60 on that thing is insane. I bet it scared the crap outa you at first. Better armor up next time just in case at those kinds of speeds👍🤣
I was gonna get the P1 Pro or R1, but I had waited many months for them to get in stock, I decide to pay £200 extra and get a Nanrobot D6+ which was last one I could find in stock in the whole of the UK due to Brexit, It's a great scooter but had a battery issue, called up and got a new one sent and fitted it. I'm gonna try and fix the other one and make it an external battery to get double the range, this looks like a beast.
most range claims for these types of electric vehicles are done at optimum settings... 25km/h, flat surface, no hills, light weight rider. Its just best case scenario
I’ve got 30 miles out of my solar ff 2.0 on 1 charge, I use it pretty fast too 20mph average on my app cause of cornering and stuff. In U.K. it isn’t as easy to ride
I have a solar ff scooter. I am in the process of modifying. I love that thing.its amazing and super fast for the streets of Atlanta. I will have video of up of it soon.
The one I have coming in next week is basically the same with some small differences. Seeing this makes me more excited to get mine in the mail so I can chill on my seat and cruise through town :-).
The random cut out, my scooter does this sometimes when its near its cut out voltage and I'm on a higher mode and accelerate hard or keep it at full throttle, it must think it's dead and cuts out for safety reasons, I tend to keep it easy on accelerating when I'm near the cut out voltage, which in D6+ case is 43, my Thunder is 52 like the FF.
Lol you obviously haven't ridden a power scooter. You don't wanna sit down on these on dual motor. It pulls to hard and you sitting back is a very unnerving feeling. Then theres the issues of road irregularities that will you bounce you around and make the scooter get squirrelly. ITS fine for cruising at low lower speeds but that's boring
Yea after I came across this brand, Solar, and watching ur videos of the Solar FF & also the Solar P1 2.0 I'm definitely gonna b looking at buying the P1 2.0 before summer next year to upgrade from my budget e scooter (Aovo Pro) because I need more speed now 🤣🛴💨 and really cud do with an e scooter with suspension too as there's just so many potholes on some UK roads. Plus, from what I've seen about Solar they are a really good e scooter company with great customer service and their stuff is really good quality. Can't wait to get 1 now. 🤘🏼😜👍🏼
@@biga8230 depending on your local laws, it may require an M1 equivalent license and possibly insurance and follow DOT standards. For what they are, they are easier to buy than a normal motorcycle or motorscooter
They are illegal in the UK unless you rent one, then you’re free to run around on them all day. It’s funny how a bit of cash in the right pocket works.
Its good to see you start out with some good, strong safety wear from the get go. I have seen a few vids of late and they say they are wearing minimal clothing to get better performance in a test which does not give the right msg to the younger newby.
If it does bother you the voltage drop I’d get something you don’t mind going at lower than certain or max speeds most of the time so you can keep the speed you want longer.
$3700, you are lightweight and you only get 15 mile range? You give them too much credit. You were not going full speed the whole time. I think that is a waste of money and shouldn’t promote it as an awesome scooter. It’s been a year since you made this so… thanks may have changed. On the creator side, great video ✊🏼
As someone that currently has a Gotrax G4. I'm loving the speeds on this one, but as of right now I'm mostly using it for a short commute to work. With this one having a higher weight capacity, I'd probably ride it around to other areas as well. I've had my Gortax for about a year, do you have any reccomendations for another Solar Brand Scooter that maybe wont break bank as much?
I can't imagine what his electric bill must be every month if he keeps all that stuff charged lol Also, really enjoy listening to him not curse, those work arounds are priceless!
@@TheInja usually takes about 4-6 months due to the shipping backlog. It’s a decent scooter as I’ve seen a couple at the laesk8 rides in Los Angeles. Beats paying $3,400. If you want the fastest scooter, look into the rion re90
Hello inja if in full mode like a car or any vehicles if ya hold the gas peddle down there goes what ever fuel or battery you have hello from Canada . I have a zhumamotu Navagator for 3 years i love it .
If I'm going to spend that much on a scooter, I'm buying a motorscooter. I mean this looks fun but for over 2,000 I better be able to go way over a 50 miles range.
Lol my garage is starting to look like yours. I'm trying to figure out how to get a Navi without all my family killing me for buying ANOTHER PEV or toy lol.
The reason why the screen is flashing: The screen refresh rate is most likely 1hz and only the camera detects that 1our eyes just see it as a normal screen. :)
Nice ride, thanks for the review. The issue of speed on a bike trail needs to be discussed - here in CA the law is 'scooter' goes up to 15mph and can ride on bike trails, above that speed you need a license plate and have to stay on the road. It it goes faster than 15mph, it is considered a motor driven cycle and you must get a license plate, have an M1 motorcycle stamp on license, and you have to ride on the road. Stay safe!
@@dazzlingdexter5060 I wish I knew what to tell you. My comment was in response to seeing this video of the rider taking hiking trails and sidewalks at high speed - anyone else on that trail is in a precarious position and the scooter should not be going that fast and should not be on those trails. Road is fine. Best to ask your DMV. As far as I can tell, anything over 15mph is like a motorcycle and you need a plate and probably insurance. These high speed scooters are fairly new and we are likely to see this issue come up more often.
@@dhenschel4 Commiefornians do not leave your state. We the sane minded of the other 49 do not want you in our states until you can solve your legislation enacted problems.
Range estimates are generally inflated due to low speeds and ideal conditions. Real world you can expect 40-70% of the claimed range depending on rider weight, speed, environmental conditions, and battery cell quality.
Regarding the range, I appreciate you going all out, but could you also include a more conservative riding style too. It would be interesting to see if you can get close to the 50 mile claimed range.
Yooooooo The Inja..!!!!! You're from Clovis / Fresno?!?!!?!!!!????!?!?!?!?! That's dope man I've seen a guy riding E-scooters down Clovis Bike Trail every once in a while, but never knew it was you this whole time. Keep doing what you do 🤙🏻
I hope one day you ride one of the racer scooters for just a fun little test. That would be something I would stay up for just to watch since the day you've got that chinese electric motorcycle that you've tuned with better parts.
Damn, what city is this in U.S.? The bike infrastructure and dedicated separated bike network of routes is really cool, still could use some work -- those bike lanes on Main arterials should be protected bike lanes.
I normaly expect my peers on the bike lane to run slower than 35 km/h, thats why bike lanes are separated from car lanes: you do not want to be hit by someone running really fast.
I wish these were around 15-20 years ago when I was younger. Me and a buddy used to ride our 49cc gas scooters everywhere and constantly got fucked up by cops
Thanks for reviewing this scooter. I'm trying to purchase the Solar P1 2.0 at their website but I cannot seem to succeed in the purchase. A message in red box always pops up, that reads: "PLEASE ENSURE ALL SELECTIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED". And I cannot reach the "PROCEED TO CHECK OUT" link. Anyway,... Where did you purchase yours? From the UK or from their US distributor?
My electric Wheelchair does the same with the display on how much power is left. I'll be out for 5 or 6 hours, when the 4 lights change to 3, but then really quick it goes down to 2, then 1, the code red.
As an owner of a Solar scooter for over 1year now, i just want to add my tricks/knowledge for better range.
1. Keep it always on dual motor as it spreads the power equally on both motor s and this way will save more energy rather then putting all the effort on one.
2. Always have your electric breaks set on the highest, this way every time you break it will generate power back. (Especially when you go downhill use the momentum to generate power back rather then going full speed down)
3. This 3rd one is a weird one but it works for me, I keep my scooters specs on its highest so- gear 3/dual motor/ turbo, this way you can ride fast only when need it and not accelerate constantly, so it gives you a momentum to keep the scooter going,,, trust me its still fun and you will get longer range plus remember the road its not always flat you may have lots of downhills so not much power needed
Thank you for this ! Does the e breaking actually charge the battery ?! Just ordered one
@@talkswithwill2468 yes
We're wud I get one solar scooter
how far drive range can you travel before you have to put on charge
WHY GET A BIKE WHEN THHIS HAS A SEAT AND WAY FASTER? IS QUALITY GOOD?
I have a Wolf King 1st day I got it went dead going like 45mph lol. With these dual motor scooters for max range just use the dual motors for traffic merging and getting up to speed then switch to single motor non turbo...cruising at 36mph or so is still a Blast and gives you range for days.
I have the GT version and ride it very hard (3 miles at 60mph as part of my route), the new controller set up means I've had no such issue.
@@sheeesssh646 Good that was a question I wanted to knw. I'm getting the Gt I need bigger handlebars and extended range
@@keronfarrier2198 Go relaxed and you'll get about 60 miles. Just to warn you there will be a few things where Kaabo have taken a step back. E.g. takes a few seconds to boot up, doesn't remember what mode you were on last time etc.
Thx you 🙏🏿
Idk I read its best to keep on dual motor to save the life of the rear motor
Imagine the look on a cops face when u past them on a EScooter 🤣🤣
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Technically it be the same as any motorcycle vehicle 🤷♂️
🤣🤣🤣 ” oh hello, don’t mind me just coming through “
*slowmo* looks out the car window with his mouth open like 😲 while his coffee is spilling on his shirt 😂
Especially when they are in pursue mode with siren and flashers on too!
great review i am on the couch up in toronto feb 3rd 7 below with snow so vicariously enjoying the ride . cheers .
Nice review, I’m considering modes of transport before I get a car and this is a good candidate. I like that it allows you to stand and sit with an attachable seat. It goes fast enough with one motor, so I might consider this scooter. Looking forward to more reviews related to this.
Bro 3000 plus for a scooter is absolutely mad it’s not a car replacement it’s a fun toy at best not practical, dependable, or safe not trying to be negative I just wish these quality ones were a third of the price
@@wrnowown never said I was actually gonna get it lol, I have my brother's bike that I need to save up for parts to fix it and then convert it into a rear or mid drive motor with a twist throttle.
Only thing is I got a weekend job and saving up for that will take a few months, maybe a year or so.
@@wrnowown I agree the prices are ridiculous but I see it as being better than a car or motorcycle for parking, theft and no insurance. Nice and easy to jump on a sidewalk or the grass in heavy traffic. 60mph scooter is crazy with tiny tires but a 40mph would be enough to meet most people's needs. Just makes sure to get one with ABS brakes for rainy days.
Bro u might as well just get Honda Ruckus
@@PyricDemon highly recommend an e-bike, I've been using mine for around two years now and I believe it is the future of alternative transport.
This thing looks awesome! I ride a Kawasaki Z400 on a daily basis and i would totally have one of these. Sad that companies like Sondors and Zero can't deliver a product like this that actually goes 60mph as advertised and doesn't cost $15,000. Sheeeesh. Thanks for the vid
Congratulations on the 200k subscribers!!! You deserve it!!! Thanks for all the entertaining content!!!
Thanks, Eli! 🙌🏽
Totally impressed. Im a long haul truck driver and that thing its perfect for when im shut down for the day . I can explore the city im in or just go out to dinner . You cant just park a semi any where so that thing is perfect for me . How much does it weigh. Looks like I could just pick it up and put it in my sleeper
It's decently heavy, i think like 90lbs or something? But light enough to stick in a truck by yourself, yep!
Ya if you don’t care about Dieing on the road maybe… I’ve been seeing SO MANT accidents in my city on these scooters… I ended up buying one. But I’m scared on the thing. It goes maybe 25 mph. And that is Scary fast. 60 mph is just crazy. PLEASE think hard about it and If you do buy one take EXTREME caution when riding. Cheers!
@@growmiezhomiez8760 Especially if he lives in America... People drive like maniacs here... No regards for human life on the road.. Everyone drives like they have a deathwish or out to kill someone... It's insanity
@@umamifan you’ve apparently never been to Mexico.
@@umamifan America is pretty safe. Try driving in India or Mexico lmao
Yes my friend that scooter is sweet and I think you're gunna need a bigger garage very soon brother but that's not a bad problem to have and ye the scooter looks wicked at night 😀
Glad to find a UA-camr in the same city great content keep up the good work.
Maybe the battery got damaged sitting for such a long time with very low voltage on your garage, It explains the short-range and the massive voltage sag. Also, Street tires can make the range at least 10% longer.
Thanks for the test. Amazing as Always!
unlikely. The scooter draws a lot of power from the battery which causes it to drain quickly
Hey those UK plugs are awesome, you should try stepping on one with the pins sicking up, now that’s painful lol
Perfect realistic review! You do better work with every new post. I wish you every success.
Appreciate that a ton, Mark! Thanks!
Saw a guy on one of those going around 45 to 50mph on Genese Ave in La Jolla . mANN, THAT IS FAST for that type of position of standing up. You would have to keep in mind the serious FUBAR moment of a sudden stop and there are a lt of things that is out there. I love the E craze but I have to remind myself The Need For Speed must come in as Safety the most important aspect to apply. Its cool seeing guy on that scooter and I hope all of ya stay safe. Serious, for that type of speed I kinda need a back tail skid to have a chance so e bike fits it.
yeah you should be thinking about sitting down after 25mph and definitely glued to the seat by 40+. That's when the wind starts pushing you around
at 20 mph i bit it after over 1000 miles on scooter from a quick front tire pop up and dropping it with handle bars still angled. worst wipeout of all sports and life for me. rib and wrist ouch! knee , knuckle, shoulder , temple, chin. everytime i bump into something new ouch. gear up.
@@TomkatzEnt I got a 350watt Gear E Bike with ,2000watt Gearless DD Turbo Boost Accelerator I use to double up my cruise control to 40mph. But overall I've learned top speed is an obstacle of overall safety and hardware abuse( regular 2 inch bike tires not really used to go consistent top speed as they end up of the pressure being abused when riding over rough terrain of the roads, even turning with throttle pushed puts stress on bike tube of the inner sleeve of rim as rotation off throttle puts serious pressure on sides of tires. I know because happen to me 3 times of same area and over use of throttle,) I now ride E bike when encountering the bumps, dips, potholes , curb entry driveways the same as a Car of easing up all the time( we don't speed in cars the same way of bikes, lol) And yeah, you wipe out going 20mph and higher you best have motorcycle helmet over plastic bike cap. I only go full speed on long straightaway path of destination or to ensure power of top speed is fitted for use of pulling extra cargo weight like how I do use. You can't ride around e bike the same way you would with regular bike as we as kids rode thru anything and everything of no concern, but it was using just pedals. It's more then having e bike of going fast, it is more like knowing your e bike or scooter of high speeds creates more abuse on the parts of the e bike or scooter. For tires, anything around 2 inches width you must approach the use of speed of maintaining your bike from getting abused to avoid replacing parts on bikes as in the tires is the majority of the e bikes unless the tires are 3 to 4 inches wide which is pretty much the standard of the use. Nothing wrong if ya stuck with 2 inch tires, you jus need to Ride more cautious overall of avoiding certain times of using top speed. Stay safe and aware , all of US
That is a great scooter, I have almost the exact same, a little less extras yet the rest is clearly the same. I have had it for close to a year now and I am still amazed how powerful it is and as importantly, it can go everywhere a car can go, and then some, down some stairs for instance hehe. I even used it this winter on ice and snow here in Norway. 60 mph though, I am not so sure about that, it may go that fast yet then you certainly will need to change tires and preferably add a steering dampener, otherwise you are going to crash as it looses stability due to wheel wobble at around 50 km/h. It may go that fast if you are light and crazy and also change to street tires and mount steering dampeners, I would not recommend it though. The fastest I have ridden it is 80 km/h. Normally I cruise comfortably at around 30 to 40 km/h.
i own an FF 2.0 myself and it's a lot of fun using it to get to work also get a second look from people when they see me going past them at 50 mph xD
Man i wish i had these as a young kid, i was riding a 100cc scooter which could do up to 45 mph and now you can get electric scooters that do 60mph its maddd
45mph? Bro i ride a 20mph
Wow, my electric scooter just does 15!
Be careful switching from single to dual motor and eco and turbo at speeds, you can damage the controller severely. It is best to switch this mode when you are stopped or simply rolling slowly.
I noticed that too, I mean, I was unaware it could damage the controller, yet I have to let go of the throttle and then push the 2WD button to make it work.
Could you explain a little more why?
I have a small scooter that does max 18mph but it still has low, medium and high speed mode settings which I usually change when going on the sidewalk, so is it bad on those lower speeds too? Thanks!
Thank you for being one of the few to wear proper protection. Bugs the hell out of me when people don’t.
Tires are called “all-terrain”.
This has to be one of the best e scooters in the game man and I was also pleasantly surprised it came with extra brake pads, very cool on the companies part for providing extras because clearly with the speeds and power this scooter produces those brake pads understandably wear out quick I’m sure lol Dam I want one so bad it seems so comfortable for a machine that is def not meant to be by any means lol
Break means busted. I think you mean "Brake pads"
@@bmwloco Lol obviously since I kept typing “pads” after break right????, so yes I think I meant “brake” pads too. It’s because Of the auto correct on my phone, you wasted a min of your life to reply something so obvious? You sound way dumber correcting me than me putting break instead of brake 😩😂🙈 I corrected it for ya 😉
Not even close, this is a generic Chinese scooter
@@danny-FL nope they’re made in the uk
@@nickpapagiorgio5056 The Solar R1 for example is a VDM-10 that's made in China and around 6 other big brands also use that design. The Solar FF is a redesigned Zero 11x and also looks like the Nanrobot d7.
It seems that the sense of stability at high speed is good.
You look amazing.
I want to ride.
When I exceed 60km / h, the front tires start to run wild.
I can tell you why your scooter died because it happened to me all the time just as you described on my Zero 10x 60V. It's a controller overheat when you ride hard. It's got a safety that temporarily shuts off the controller for about 5-10 min if the temp gets to high to protect it against burning up. My vendor kept sending me new controllers but they all did this. So in the end they let me return it. Apparently I ride too hard for that type of controller and they could not mitigate the problem. I ended up getting a Nami Burn-e instead which has the controllers on the outside (more cooling) and they are overrated for a wapping 100Amps (less likely to overheat). Also the programming on overheat makes them go into a lower performance mode rather than shut off.
And yea, this goes for all scooters, with luck, you're only going to get half the rated range if you ride hard (AKA normal). For the advertised range you have to go 15mph max, no hills, no stops, with tail wind, which is ridiculous. In a few months, the range will settle well below half advertised after you ware the battery a bit.
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@@Angie-vf2jp It’s not for you mate
Do not charge full. That why I recommend people buying escooter before all in for ev. The battery should be always between 20% to 80% to preserve battery life. If you do 100% - 5% each cycle, you only get 50-100 cycles then the battery dead. You do 20 to 80 you have 500+ cycles.
I daily commute on my electric unicycle for over a year now and it range is very slightly decreased becoz I learned the lesson from my previous ebike/escooter. I fully charged my escooter it can go 25 miles. I charged it up and let it sit for 1 month. It can go 20 now. I permanently lost 20% range.
My euc was broken and I left it at 60% while waiting for parts. A month later I got exactly the same range as before.
My point is any battery powered vehicle has the usable range 60% of advertised range and it's in ideal situation. I would say Tesla mode 3 claims to have 300 mile range, but the real range you can use daily in a charge is only 300x 40% = 120 mile. It's less than 2 hours driving. You left home at 80% so it's 240 mile range. You charge it when it's close to 20% so no lower than 60 mile. Computer range is 240-60=180. Then you use Bluetooth AC driving a bit faster like 75mph, the real range is only 120-140. So no ev for me. Waiting for a 600 mile range ev under 50k USD hopefully in 10 years but I lose faith in humanity already
Nahh give it some credit, I have got 50 miles out of mine doing a constant 25mph dual motor eco mode. And the cut off does happen once you hit below 45ish volts, This is the voltage cut off point for the BMS.. Like on any e-vehicle battery worth it's salt!
@@Angie-vf2jp Your brain is too slow.
I forgot to sub to you on my new channel and holy smokes it's awesome to see how much you have grown and flourished. Congrats on 200k, been with you for a long time!
That's like a Hellcat in a scooter. Would be interesting to put that set up on the beefier scooter you just tested with the bigger frame and tires. 60 on that thing is insane. I bet it scared the crap outa you at first. Better armor up next time just in case at those kinds of speeds👍🤣
Not quite. Look up Rion's scooters. 75-80MPH. Carbon Fiber body so it weighs less than 70lb. It's INSANE but over $8k LOL
I was gonna get the P1 Pro or R1, but I had waited many months for them to get in stock, I decide to pay £200 extra and get a Nanrobot D6+ which was last one I could find in stock in the whole of the UK due to Brexit, It's a great scooter but had a battery issue, called up and got a new one sent and fitted it. I'm gonna try and fix the other one and make it an external battery to get double the range, this looks like a beast.
most range claims for these types of electric vehicles are done at optimum settings... 25km/h, flat surface, no hills, light weight rider. Its just best case scenario
I’ve got 30 miles out of my solar ff 2.0 on 1 charge, I use it pretty fast too 20mph average on my app cause of cornering and stuff. In U.K. it isn’t as easy to ride
I have a solar ff scooter.
I am in the process of modifying. I love that thing.its amazing and super fast for the streets of Atlanta.
I will have video of up of it soon.
Love your content man! Keep up the excellent work and unbiased/realistic review
Will do!
The one I have coming in next week is basically the same with some small differences. Seeing this makes me more excited to get mine in the mail so I can chill on my seat and cruise through town :-).
The random cut out, my scooter does this sometimes when its near its cut out voltage and I'm on a higher mode and accelerate hard or keep it at full throttle, it must think it's dead and cuts out for safety reasons, I tend to keep it easy on accelerating when I'm near the cut out voltage, which in D6+ case is 43, my Thunder is 52 like the FF.
Good to know!
another great video inja 👍
maybe try out a Trikke next time, although those are expensive.
Fantastic speeds but I would feel safer sitting down on that seat! MAN! That was fast! For a Scooter!Excellent review Dude!
Thanks, Roger!
Scooters are designed for stand up riding, the seat would make it feel awkward
Lol you obviously haven't ridden a power scooter. You don't wanna sit down on these on dual motor. It pulls to hard and you sitting back is a very unnerving feeling. Then theres the issues of road irregularities that will you bounce you around and make the scooter get squirrelly. ITS fine for cruising at low lower speeds but that's boring
@@keronfarrier2198 I was sitting down the entire time maxing it out and it felt fine
@@TheInja Well that scooter must have superb suspension because the general consensus among alot of you bigger youtuber like you is ditch the seat..
Yea after I came across this brand, Solar, and watching ur videos of the Solar FF & also the Solar P1 2.0 I'm definitely gonna b looking at buying the P1 2.0 before summer next year to upgrade from my budget e scooter (Aovo Pro) because I need more speed now 🤣🛴💨 and really cud do with an e scooter with suspension too as there's just so many potholes on some UK roads. Plus, from what I've seen about Solar they are a really good e scooter company with great customer service and their stuff is really good quality. Can't wait to get 1 now. 🤘🏼😜👍🏼
Super scary fast. Wow
I purchased the 5600 watt 60V 38AH dual motor scooter. I get over 30 miles @about 25 MPH running full power and both motors.
It feels so weird to watch this because these type of vehicles are super illegal where i live. 😀
There super illegal everywhere
Why are they illegal?
@@biga8230 depending on your local laws, it may require an M1 equivalent license and possibly insurance and follow DOT standards. For what they are, they are easier to buy than a normal motorcycle or motorscooter
They are illegal in the UK unless you rent one, then you’re free to run around on them all day. It’s funny how a bit of cash in the right pocket works.
@@biga8230 The speed is way to high, I want to say scooters have a max of 20mph. and this is triple. but you have to get caught. LOL
20:54 'doing, you know, fairly legal speeds, a little bit over'
made me chuckle
gonna add this to my vanbuild list.
The jetsons sound is hilarious 😂🤣😂🤣 🤘😂🤘
FULL THROTTLE!
Yes, range suffers... But fun excels!
Smart Car ED is rated 80 miles, I get 55 miles the real world driving way! LOL
Its good to see you start out with some good, strong safety wear from the get go.
I have seen a few vids of late and they say they are wearing minimal clothing to get better performance in a test which does not give the right msg to the younger newby.
Impressive e scooter
If it does bother you the voltage drop I’d get something you don’t mind going at lower than certain or max speeds most of the time so you can keep the speed you want longer.
$3700, you are lightweight and you only get 15 mile range? You give them too much credit. You were not going full speed the whole time. I think that is a waste of money and shouldn’t promote it as an awesome scooter. It’s been a year since you made this so… thanks may have changed. On the creator side, great video ✊🏼
Nice lil scooter for local/city commuting. Tons of e-bikes available for urban commuting/more versatility at a better price point, imo.
As someone that currently has a Gotrax G4. I'm loving the speeds on this one, but as of right now I'm mostly using it for a short commute to work. With this one having a higher weight capacity, I'd probably ride it around to other areas as well. I've had my Gortax for about a year, do you have any reccomendations for another Solar Brand Scooter that maybe wont break bank as much?
I also love my P1 Pro
@@TheInja thats what I was thinking of too! Thanks!
I can't imagine what his electric bill must be every month if he keeps all that stuff charged lol Also, really enjoy listening to him not curse, those work arounds are priceless!
They actually don't take up as much electricity as you think about the same power usage as a say a game system
@@barryszymanski8022 Cool
Awesome man! That is crazy fast and at a really good price too.
Laotie ti30 off of banggood has this for $1400
There would be some form of hassle or waiting time trying to get that one, though, I bet. Order it and tell me how it goes!
@@TheInja usually takes about 4-6 months due to the shipping backlog. It’s a decent scooter as I’ve seen a couple at the laesk8 rides in Los Angeles. Beats paying $3,400. If you want the fastest scooter, look into the rion re90
Hello inja if in full mode like a car or any vehicles if ya hold the gas peddle down there goes what ever fuel or battery you have hello from Canada .
I have a zhumamotu Navagator for 3 years i love it .
If I'm going to spend that much on a scooter, I'm buying a motorscooter. I mean this looks fun but for over 2,000 I better be able to go way over a 50 miles range.
for 2k you wont get anything with speed and range
@@bighorse215 a motor scooter you can for under $2000!! I'm assuming he's talking about a gas one
@@bighorse215 what kind of speed are you talking about??? because some scooters do fit that criteria for $2000..range and power.
@@bighorse215 under 2k you can get any landbreaker with speed and better range
I think I found my new BABY! 😆 I gotta get one of these! #speeddemon
Lol my garage is starting to look like yours. I'm trying to figure out how to get a Navi without all my family killing me for buying ANOTHER PEV or toy lol.
What an a-hole 🤣. I hope they contact me. I wanna ride and review one. Speed and power is my thing!!!
Or let me borrow it 😁
Watching the way you ride you would have to mod it! I think you would burn it out in a week unless you went hella careful!Dude!Ha!HA!
@@rogereheadbyrne4790 hahaha probably.
Dude you'd love it!
The reason why the screen is flashing: The screen refresh rate is most likely 1hz and only the camera detects that 1our eyes just see it as a normal screen. :)
Just tell the cop you have almost 200k UA-cam subscribers so the rules of society don't apply to you!
Lol! Will do!
nah just tell them he's the inja, throw a smoke bomb down and then speed off
Have you reviewed Suru Cycles? Are they still in business? Please let me know.
With them scooters you 100% do not want to be using the seat when going over 25-30mph
I've been riding bikes since age 5. Long time motorcyclist, MSF instructor. 60mph on that??!!! That's a certified suicycle.
Nice ride, thanks for the review. The issue of speed on a bike trail needs to be discussed - here in CA the law is 'scooter' goes up to 15mph and can ride on bike trails, above that speed you need a license plate and have to stay on the road. It it goes faster than 15mph, it is considered a motor driven cycle and you must get a license plate, have an M1 motorcycle stamp on license, and you have to ride on the road. Stay safe!
I am debating getting one of these. Will I really need a liscense plate? does that mean I can get pulled over for it?
@@dazzlingdexter5060 I wish I knew what to tell you. My comment was in response to seeing this video of the rider taking hiking trails and sidewalks at high speed - anyone else on that trail is in a precarious position and the scooter should not be going that fast and should not be on those trails. Road is fine. Best to ask your DMV. As far as I can tell, anything over 15mph is like a motorcycle and you need a plate and probably insurance. These high speed scooters are fairly new and we are likely to see this issue come up more often.
Commiefornians are welcome to stay in your own state with your poorly conceived legislation.
@everyday tenor There’s insurance for that. Believe it or not is very cheap. Much cheaper than car insurance. Reported for misinformation.
@@dhenschel4 Commiefornians do not leave your state. We the sane minded of the other 49 do not want you in our states until you can solve your legislation enacted problems.
I'm sold you had me over 40 mph I want one.
0:19 the car is so golden
Range estimates are generally inflated due to low speeds and ideal conditions. Real world you can expect 40-70% of the claimed range depending on rider weight, speed, environmental conditions, and battery cell quality.
Regarding the range, I appreciate you going all out, but could you also include a more conservative riding style too. It would be interesting to see if you can get close to the 50 mile claimed range.
For a clone scooter, I really like the upgraded screen that Solar put on it.
You can set the speed and acceleration on the dashboard program it to accelerate a bit faster
Pushing hard will definitely drain the battery fast. to get the most milage its when you are on 25-30kph.
The price is right! I'm definitely looking into buying out
Unfortunately they're illegal where I live. The limit is 32km/h (roughly 20mph) here.
When are you going to switch over to MPH?
Bro, dope vids! Ur super underrated ngl!
Yooooooo The Inja..!!!!! You're from Clovis / Fresno?!?!!?!!!!????!?!?!?!?! That's dope man I've seen a guy riding E-scooters down Clovis Bike Trail every once in a while, but never knew it was you this whole time. Keep doing what you do 🤙🏻
Probably me. Haha. Yessir!
I hope one day you ride one of the racer scooters for just a fun little test. That would be something I would stay up for just to watch since the day you've got that chinese electric motorcycle that you've tuned with better parts.
That is a bad ass scooter.
wowwww looks fun!$3700 wtf!!!!! but 15 miles sux,,,,which scooter or bike goes over 30MPH & gets most miles,,I d like TO BUY SOMETHING
Hello inja. Cool video! Can you possibly explain why the displays both were blinking on and off the whole time?
⚡Enjoyed the slick review⚡👍 THANKYOU👍🎯
For sure
You can add or make a solar powered charge system.
Have you had any cop problems with that thing? I mean your moving. Looks like a lot of fun.
Problem is, at 60mph you can't easily spot pot holes, and with those small wheels you will basically die if you hit one.
Your garage collection is unique.
Watch the potholes & speedbumps 😂
You also get a quieter and smoother ride switching to street tires.
What place is that? I wanna move there when I'm older...
I wonder if you need a license in the UK to be on the road with this beauty
If the range on a e scooter says "80km" what would be the chances of actually getting 80 out of it?
Working hard this semester of school as if I pass I might get one of these lol I’m also researching the laws in my area
Damn, what city is this in U.S.? The bike infrastructure and dedicated separated bike network of routes is really cool, still could use some work -- those bike lanes on Main arterials should be protected bike lanes.
Dudes gold smart car in the background looks like the type of shit id make in GTA5 online for ABSOLUELY NO apparent reason
Waiting for the one that goes 150 miles per hour, myself. Get to work really quick!
150mph through town on a bike trail would cut down that commute time by 350% minimum!!
0:36 "pop" and we see mr inja standing, good transition editing there.
Thank you for your unbias breakdown on this scooter.
Solar FF. The FF stands for F*uckin Fast!
Hey bud I know you're busy but could you by chance link me to the camera a helmet mount you use? I love your content btw, thanks again!
I normaly expect my peers on the bike lane to run slower than 35 km/h, thats why bike lanes are separated from car lanes: you do not want to be hit by someone running really fast.
I wish these were around 15-20 years ago when I was younger. Me and a buddy used to ride our 49cc gas scooters everywhere and constantly got fucked up by cops
Filming your self passing a 45MPH sign doing a lot more... this scooter is will get someone a speeding ticket one day!
Thanks for reviewing this scooter. I'm trying to purchase the Solar P1 2.0 at their website but I cannot seem to succeed in the purchase. A message in red box always pops up, that reads: "PLEASE ENSURE ALL SELECTIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED". And I cannot reach the "PROCEED TO CHECK OUT" link. Anyway,... Where did you purchase yours? From the UK or from their US distributor?
My electric Wheelchair does the same with the display on how much power is left. I'll be out for 5 or 6 hours, when the 4 lights change to 3, but then really quick it goes down to 2, then 1, the code red.
In my black edition I had driver constantly flash me bc they thought they were high beams on a car