“Drag Race” Contestant Sherry Pie Talks After Admitting to Catfishing
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- Опубліковано 15 лют 2021
- Joey Gugliemelli is a drag performer who goes by the stage name Sherry Pie. Last year, they were publicly disqualified from Season 12 of “RuPaul's Drag Race” after admitting to sexually exploiting several men. Joey exclusively opens up for the first time in a sit-down with Tamron Hall.
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"I don't know if after this interview more will come forward." So there ARE more, got it.
Yep. That was my very first thought.
Yeh i had to re-listen to those words he chose. There are clearly more.
@Enough is Enough he did a duel catfish scheme, it’s a bit complex but I’ll sum it up. So he, as himself, would meet guys that were wanting to do tv or movies, you know get into the entertainment industry and tell them he knew someone. He’d then connect with them through email while posing as a woman named Allison Mossey. He AS ALLISON, would talk about a show with HBO and what she was looking for in terms of actors playing the character and everything else, and then direct them to deal with Joey (person in interview) because she trusts him. So then he as himself would meet them in person and describe what “Allison” wants and that for them to sometimes take steroids, do sexual acts on camera and other things that violated them but it was framed in a way that it was all for this big role on HBO and it was artistic but it was really just for him to...do what he wanted to do with that footage or relationship he made with that person. Then he would just stop contacting them. It was ongoing for a long time and something that some other NY queens heard slight whisperings of but no one had any idea it was as terrible as it is. He was one of the contestants on RuPaul’s Drag Race Season 12 which aired last year when the pandemic began. The allegations- which he has admitted to- came out right before/during the premiere. He was subsequently edited out of the season even though he was one of the finalists. For so many reasons it’s just terrible and deplorable.
Edit: I hope I’m not offending anyone or downplaying it. I just wanted to give a summary in order for people to understand.
Wow you are such an insightful genius
That part stood out to me so much. He either knows there's more victims but he's hoping they'll keep staying quiet, or he genuinely does not know how many people he preyed on. Both situations are scary.
The lady said: “Go home.”
Girl 😂😂😂😂😂😭😭😭
😂
Lollll
😂 iconic
Stoppp 💀💀
he did not come prepared for this interview
He came very prepared. In fact, he had a whole year and a half to figure out how he was going to dig himself out of this mess. The reason why it was so sloppy on his part is because Tameron wasn't going to let him get that far. She did her research , knew what he was about and stopped him in his tracks every time.
He just kept saying the same thing over and over again like that will make us all forgive him. He's a pig. I love that Tamron was like, "oh no we aren't forgiving you" lol
I think there is not a real way for him to be prepared, what have him done is terrible and people straight up hate him
Joey was most definitely not prepared. He did not think his interviewer was going ask him confrontational questions using loaded language about his sexual abuse and financial fraud. Tamron did not call his behavior "catfishing" to start. For instance, she asked him why he did it, and he says because "control" and also because he is "sorry." She asked him who would do this to a friend, and he said he did not know what to do - a PREDATOR. But remember, she's sorry.
@@ismaelgaeta8428 What I meant was that he came prepared with a set of ideas that he could throw out to evade and protect himself. Obviously he's not going to know everything she's going ask and he knows that. However, you should cue the reading. He looks down frequently and his eyes move ever so slightly. He's written out everything. He's had a year and a half to come up with excuses and it shows. He tried following a linear path.
he rly said that there might be more that come forward i-
I KNOWWWW I WAS LIKE WTF?! U REALLY TRYING TO GET A ONE WAY TICKET TO PRISON GURL
Ikr he practically confirmed that there are more people he’s done this too 🤬
💀 I was screaming
This comment goes well with your username 😂
I was really worried about this interview, but in fairness Tamron didn't hold back....
@@jeffreyb4182 i think it was more people didn't want this to air as the victims have said they didn't want it to air
She’s a journalist not Ellen, of course she was going to ask tough questions. She’s never been one to play. She did a fabulous job. And guess what he still looks like a monster.
She gets in there! Too bad NBC fired her, NBC's lost.
@@jeffreyb4182 prob cause it's on a TV network but Tamera does not disappoint.
@@xaviergroves8525 youre right, this is the first tamron interview ive seen and i was one of those people who didnt want her to interview sherry. She did a good job tho
It's not catfishing, it is emotional manipulation, sexual exploitation and fraud for many victims. You are playing down the incidents.
😔
@@guesswhat-chickenbutt yea it is a sensitive subject not a chance to shoot out compliments.
Lol catfishing is a thing.
Well, but it’s still catfishing, no matter what else Happen 🤷🏼♂️
Maybe don’t be so quick to put all your shit out there online to people, desperate people
Tamron kinda ate Sherry up
She destroyed him
As she should
I’m glad she did.
Agreed! I think she did a great job with this disgusting slime ball
Oh yeah sis was mad at him and I can understand the feeling because I am too
Not gonna lie, they didn't paint him as a victim. Tamron asked interesting questions imo like the one about the fear of criminal charges. She went there. I'm still uncomfortable with this interview but nonetheless this was interesting.
I already knew that. Charles Manson used to give interviews in jail all the time, and of course nobody wanted to make him a victim or show "his side" of the story. The same goes here: it's an interview and nothing more but THE SJW's online, chile, they're ready to cancel.
He just needs to get a 9-5 and call it a day cause he can't work in the drag world again. With the way people are hiring now he can get a work from home position
Lmaoooooooooo
Might need to legally change his name because a quick Google search no 9-5 will hire him
Noma Khumalo legally change it to Joey Mossey or Allison Gugli
@@palesarox13 Yea....that last name is too telling. He needs to be "Joe Smith" from now on
Exactly literally everyone is hiring…time for a job sis
Tamron was rlly calling Bs where she felt it, she was honest and cut to the chase, and brought out the receipts. Applaud Tamron for the professionalism she brought during this interview which is a sensitive topic for a lot of people.
Yes!
YES!!!!
She’s a tough cookie and doesn’t take BS. People were so outraged about her giving up her platform, he still looks like the monster.
She handled it well but overall I disagree with her conducting this interview in the first place. Many victims have come out saying they are uncomfortable with it.
@@titanicsrising guess what... It sad to say but just because victim feel a way doesn't mean reporters and media people shouldn't do their jobs. When people get murdered they're family have to watch it on the news do you think they want their stuff blasted on TV no but it still happens because it's life.
“oh, we weren’t gunna let you” i love that
Same. Also love that she asked if he has multiple personality disorder, since that would ring more true to an “excuse.” I know a few people with BPD and it has nothing to do with anything he’s discussing...its akin to bipolar disorder (major generalization but same ballpark). What that has to do with manipulating your friends into doing horrid things when you know their weaknesses and vulnerabilities is beyond me.
Timestamp??
@@Archie.simps.x 10:43 LMAO
I know I loved that!!
That was not professional at all so yeah. Karma
I’m someone who hasn’t come forward publicly, and I don’t think I ever will because I don’t like being perceived as a victim- I also just don’t want to deal with his fans harassing me the way they have other victims I know. I just came here to say that what he did was more than just catfishing people. He manipulated eager young performers into doing demeaning things by holding an imaginary treat over our heads. I was 21 when this happened, and my experience with him is one of the reasons I’m still on antidepressants to this day. The amount of shame and embarrassment that he caused me had a lasting effect. I forgive him, but I will never forget what he did, and I think he never deserves to be in the spotlight again.
I'm so sorry you had to go through that ❤
I am so very sorry that you had to go through that. He is a psychopath people have to understand he can't control his behavior and sadly enough he won't stop until he's put in jail. People like him vicariously get off in like doing what they doing. He says he's sorry and then he says he can't even imagine the horror that he put people through that is the truth he's honestly not lying he cannot imagine it people who are psychopathic can't imagine the pain that they cause so when he said that he really meant that I don't know if people caught that or not but he really meant what he said he can't imagine it people that can imagine the pain that they would cause would never inflict that kind of harm on another human being. For what s**** and giggles
Wow! I'm so sorry baby.
You deserve all of the love and support coming forward. I am so terribly sorry that his “fans” have made you feel like you can’t come forward in others ways. Having the courage to leave your story here in this comment section is enough. Whatever you feel comfortable with, is what you need to do honey. Just know that if anything ever changes and if you wish to come forward in other ways, you have love, support and positivity in your corner. You deserve better, and if there’s any way this community can help you get the justice you deserve, please reach out.
@@alig6616 love this!
Bro he didn’t even answer the first question she had he went straight to the “apology” as if he was trying to get it out of the way.
If he didn’t apologized he would’ve received more backlash . Lmao
He did in the middle of the apology
Not trying to defend him but he quite clearly said "I don't know if more people will come out", as in, there's more victims but obviously he can't know if they'll come forward.
Maybe because it was an super awkward question to start with…? She is being tough enough throughout this interview, interrupting almost all his attempts to answer. So if that was her plan, whatever happened to common decency, and starting with 'welcome to my show' and all that? This was a nasty and rhetorical question, only meant to make him confess to more misbehaviour. It would have been more elegant to put that question later, and simply ask: were there many more victims?
@@MarcTheLemurian common decency? Maybe ask him that...
He does not regret what he did. He regrets getting caught. Its just miserable and hard to watch
No he did apologize for his actions. Let's not backtrack here
Imagine something happens to you (doesn’t need to be catfishing) and you really feel sorry for that and want to apologize, but than people like you come and call it bullshit. It’s really sad that you just cannot accept someone’s apology. You’re just as evil
oh, i didnt know psychic people existed, you must be so successful and rich with those talents
@@delekenonoekeno5678 I think it's really sad that you came here to make a passionate defense of someone like him. I have every right to think that his apologies were not sincere. Who are you to tell me that I'm as evil as he is? Who are you? I havent eben catshifing anyone out there. I don't have to make passionate false and repetitive excuses. Why do you?
@@garethdavies4502 In order to be ironic and funny you first need to be smart. Sorry to inform you it didn't work as well as you thought.
So what I’ve gathered from this interview is there is in fact more people he victimized that haven’t yet come forward.
Yeah... That part. Sherry u flopped.
Oh there will be more victims. He showed No remorse. No apology
@@brianferguson7902 No apology? The whole fucking interview was an apology. What would you like more? Nothing is EVER good enough for people. People want public apology, remorse, and receipts that they're doing something. He does this. "CANCEL HIM, WHY ARE YOU PUTTING HIM ON A PLATFORM!?!?!" There's a time where victims needs to STOP being victims and become survivors. They will not be able to move on with THEIR lives unless they forgive for THEMSELVES to be able to move on. As for Sherry Pie/Joey, this entire interview was him taking the blame for everything and owning up to everything he has done. That's more than a fuck ton of people would do on the daily, including people you know. We have people out here MURDERING others and pleading not guilty. This community is so fucking toxic because nothing is ever good enough for them, and that stems outside of this issue.
@@tjkole5368 You think victims can get over trauma and literally suddenly become survivors? You think it's that easy to say to your abuser "Yeah I forgive you!" Just like that? This apology isn't enough because of his actions ESPECIALLY towards the victims.
It's not our place to forgive him, it's the victims. It takes years of therapy to get over this.
He doesn’t know if more will come forward?!? SO YOURE TELLING ME THERES MORE VICTIMS?!?!?
How has this not been taken further?? I am mad. There may be more than 20 victims now. How has he not been arrested???
@@evieedwards1800 cause what actual legal charge is there for most of these cases? Im not saying the laws shouldnt evolve to fit this new age but its hard to pin anything particularly criminal especially with no evidence
@@ShaRutherford199 I understand there's financial fraud but who is able to sue her on that? Surely not the victims of the abuse but that is what boggles my mind. She has clearly done something terrible but how do you put that in a trial?
@@evieedwards1800 in the grand scheme of things he hasn't done anything illegal just immoral. Which is why he hasnt been charged.
Right 🙄
“We’re not gonna let you do that either” 🤣😭 ppl are upset that Tamron is using her platform for Joey but it’s how’s she’s using it that gets my thumbs up
You can't give it a thumbs up, the victims themselves have said they disagree with him being on and even asked them not to feature him.
@@joewhite4456 there’s sooo many bad people who gets interviewed... murders, rapist, etc... so yeah she’s no exception
Agreed. She didn't go easy on him at all. You could tell he was so uncomfortable, and deservedly so.
She handled the interview really good in my opinion.
@@joewhite4456 The victims should have no say in weather he gets interviewed or not. The victims should file criminal charges if they choose.
This interview was very uncomfortable.
Like they are supposed to, journalism is holding people to account not sugarcoating things for them
@@valkondarvalakev6377 Damn Righf💯Holding them accountable & bringing it to the Full Front💯👍😘
as it should be
@@valkondarvalakev6377 exactly
@@valkondarvalakev6377 agree. The uncomfortableness was radiating strong
When Sherry said at the start of their interview "I don't know if after I do this interview if more will come forward" they basically just admitted to there being many more victims.
Snitched on himself
Joey looks like he just wants to get this “apology” over with so he can get back to performing
You mean so he can get back to scamming?
I can't imagine he works as Sherry Pie again. Surely he's been blacklisted?
See I don't see that. I see someone who's struggling right now.
@@clarinamascarenhas7499 but do you think she is deserving of a platform?
@@melodiclogic9904 does it look like he's getting anything good out of this? Is he using it to protest his innocence? Is he denying anything? Is he promoting any of his work?
Let me explain why he’s smiling every time and chuckles as he talks. As someone who has been through therapy for two years as a victim of sexual assault as well as childhood trauma. This smiling is something I used to do, it’s called “gallows laughter” it’s when you’re talking about something your uncomfortable with and you automatically try to emote differently to steer attention away from the seriousness of the topic... i used to do this every time I spoke of my sexual assault. & for years no one took me seriously because of it.. but in essence, I was just incredibly uncomfortable... I still don’t think joey has fully come to terms with what he’s done to others as well as accepted responsibility just yet.. There’s still a long way to go.. my heart goes out to his victims.
She got her next booking! By the nypd.
omggg😂😂
sadly not.
the nypd cant do anything about it. you can't put someone to jail cause of catfishing
@@AGlassOfWhine but this is more than catfishing, it's borderline rape. When you do sexual acts there needs to be consent on both sides, but the victims never consented to sending SP the videos, they consented to send Allison the video. I'm sure that's gotta be illegal
Unfortunately I don’t think there’s anything they can charge him with because he didn’t post the photos or videos.
@@chaeriplease but they were not forced to send those things, they did it without any doubt anything bad could happen. So it cannot be rape/sexual assault in any way
He said nothing new during this interview. Waste of time. He will never work in drag again.
@@harry490 no he hasn’t 😂
How u know?.
@@harry490 wrong girl you have mistaken her as TINA BURNER
@@harry490 how has he been getting bookings with a full beard right now? Lol that’s a lie.
He can be an India 2.0 tho
Joey keeps “trying” to say the “right things” to get un-canceled, but it just come across cringeworthy.
To the victims: thank you for having the strength and courage to stand up and share your experience.
we really need to thank the victims for stepping up and sharing their story at the right time. it’s meant that many reality tv shows will do extensive background checks, it spreads awareness about sexual abuse victims and most of all it stopped joey from having a platform and stopped him preying on others.
if he had been exposed even a week or 2 later, i don’t think it would’ve had the same impact, and joey would’ve been heavily featured on the show. maybe if he’d never been exposed, he might’ve been the winner of the season. now that is a scary thought...
Victims.......pfft Bitch Those Idiota Knew What They we're doing
Victim My ass
@@remyparaskovia5499 exactly!!! Victims where??
@@TonyKnight1208 they are victims your queen Predator pie said they were victims they put their trust into Alison/sherry and she use them for her own gain please educate yourself
@@keyvwee1367 my queen TF?? I don’t like her like that? 😂 some of these people saying something now because he made it on rupaul. I’ve gotten catfish plenty of times but that don’t mean I do anything with them. Just leave if ur uncomfortable. These gotta be younger people
the fact that he dodged the first question...non transparent, he knows theres more victims and won't own up to it.
Sherry literally doesn’t care at all. He just wants to continue his drag career cuz he literally put up his info for booking almost as soon as this interview was announced. Sherry messed the lives of all of his victims and ruined it for the season 12 queens. He literally said in this interview that a lot of these people were his friends so he’s definitely someone who shouldn’t have a platform
Not defending anything, just wanted to say the booking info was there since before the victims came out. Sherry most certainly will never have a platform considering what she’s done and how the only things that show up when you google her name are articles from either when everything happened or about this interview
Lol at him wanting to come back... this interview just proves how he should NEVER be allowed back. Time for him to move to Arkansas and begin his career as a roadkill scraper!
The victims come first of course, but I agree the season 12 girls really got their season tainted by this garbage human. The way she was getting pushed to win too makes me want to die. Thank god for our amazing top three and beautiful winner Jaida.
why did he do to them?
Hey one of the victims here, there are definitely more victims that have mot stepped forward. He should be in jail IMO. This is clearly his attempt to be able to be sherry in public again. That probably shouldn’t happen
@@theeaquarius nnnnnope
My heart is with all of you that were victims. Please keep speaking out...I hope more come forward. This man/ drag queen deserves nothing but jail time imo.
Do you think you can make a UA-cam video talking about your experience? I think it will be very informational to everyone! What redflags to look for? When were you aware? Etc. ThankYou.
@@theeaquarius he didn’t reach out to me either... he probably doesn’t even know how many people he’s abused.
Would you mind opening up your case about this considering you were a victim?
There is no way that this man will ever live a comfortable and profitable life ever again.
GOOD.
What did he do?
@@Shantellywashington he catfished a couple of guys and acted like he was a female casting agent.
@@Shantellywashington He pretended to be a female casting agent named Allison Mossey and manipulated men into sending him explicit videos and taking steroids to "benefit their careers"
@@Shantellywashington He basically catfished straight men. He did this by saying he was part of a Acting agency and the actors needed to be nude for certain scenes and to send nude photos. He pretended to have power over these people to make them feel like if they wanted to be successful they had to send the photos
How incredible was season 12? Even with all this drama The rest of the cast made that season so memorable and exciting. Absolutely incredible. That rusical!
it's honestly a testament to how stacked the cast was when there was so much enjoyable content even though you could just feel how much the season was supposed to be focused on S.P.
The one where Jan won.. I mean was safe?
@@adamjustadam gigi***
Lol I'm not mad, just saying this is the wrong video for this statement. But I do agree with u 100%
@@jacob8uup Yeah. I heard through the grape vine that Sherry was participating in bullying the young Queen that all the other queens were ganging up on. I think the queens name that was being Bullied was Aiden. Anywho I heard they had to edit a good chunk of SP out. I don’t know man, season 12 just didn’t feel authentic to me. I guess they did the best they could considering all the editing they had to do.
“i didnt want to hide” but you didnt make any statements for months?
He admitted to it. What else is he supposed to say? I was so uncomfortable and annoyed by him being on the show I would not have wanted some pathetic fake woke statements every episode from. He did the right thing by just going away.
When you go on rupaul a portion of all earnings made a year from first episode air date are taken and you're not able to do other events unless given permission, hence why its coming out year to date
Also wowpressnts gave him a gag order, he was legally bound to say nothing
He says “cognitive behavioral therapy” like it’s some big thing. That’s literally just therapy, every average person in therapy does that.
Cognitive behavioral therapy is also a therapy known for being relatively short...
Not everyone. It is the most popular and most used form of therapy but there are many others. However i agree, hes not doing anything special. I do give him credit for trying to better himself but he acts like hes doing US and his victims a favor.🙄 total bullshit lol
Cbt is also not ideal for BPD. They should get him in dialectical behavioral therapy. It's very costly tho
@@BiologyIsHot what makes you say that?
@@quebnormalmm not at all! CBT is the most common form of therapy, I’ve never heard about it being short. I’ve been in therapy for 2+ years now and it’s CBT. Where did you hear that from?
he keeps using the same phrases e.g. “deplorable behavior” and “immense fear”, which makes it seem scripted & insincere. also tf is he smiling at????
I said the same thing why tf is he smiling, I don’t think he is sincere one bit. The part that made me believe that is when he was asked if he think more victims will come forward and he says “idk” bitch you doing the same thing you did pre drag race, he’s just hoping no one else will. What a sociopath, he’s not sorry at all. Hopefully this put an end to his predatory behavior bc it could have easily evolved into murderous behavior tbh
Some people do smirk when they are nervous
Nervous smile. Any body language expert will tell you that. Means he’s afraid
It was scripted you could see him looking down after almost every question implying that he was reading something
@@mollyraymacdonald-north1718 yeah he probably had notes
“You have to help yourself before you can help somebody else.” - Tamron Hall
thats been a saying for centuries, miss lets put a sex predator on our show didnt invent that saying
@@notsofloppyflop7451 damn u woke up on the wrong side of the bed today
@@notsofloppyflop7451 girl no one said she created that 😂
This is literally the same as saying "if you can't love yourself, how in the hell you gonna love somebody else?"
Can i get an amen up in here? ... Ok let the music play!
Sherry Pie could’ve won season 12. He had it to go all the way. But the poison you bring into this world will always come back to you and destroy what you want the most.
She would’ve never won eason 12, let’s be serious.
@@Insulindependantfati producers wanted a campy big girl queen to win. even if jaida SHOULDVE won, sherry WOULDVE won.
@@sahilnovetzke9041 Sherry wouldn’t have won ever sorry
@@sahilnovetzke9041 girl that big ass lie in what world would sherry pie win
Hmmmm no! That was the Jaida's season... I mean for what they let us watch Sherr!e did a good job but was not enough to win the season. Also she deserved the bottom the episode Heidi went home.
I watched this with an open mind, but all I got from this is "I'm sorry I got caught, I wish I had never been found out".
i get the feeling from joey that if there were no social or legal consequences to catfishing and manipulating people into sending sexual videos, that he’d do it all again.
“You had to know it would be devastating to them” okay Tamron destroy him don’t be shy :)
In the words of India Ferrah, “Prison honey.” Do the crime, serve the time. And hopefully you come out of prison a better person via restorative justice.
If he's not been charged by now, I doubt he will be. Very very few people come out of prisom a better person, that's the flaw of the public justice system.
Yea restorative justice isnt a thing, some 80% of released prisoners go back to prison within 5 years. And then the ones who dont go back either should have never really been there or learned how to hide their criminality
Idk how US law works, but why couldn't these victims file a class-action and just put SP in jail? It's been over a year. Is it really easier to take accountability on twitter than the justice trials over there?
I doubt what Sherry did is bad enough to go to prison
@@Ryan-om5yi thank you for that important comment!! 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Tamron was rlly calling Bs where she felt it, she was honest and cut to the chase, and brought out the receipts. Applaud Tamron for the professionalism she brought during this interview which is a sensitive topic for a lot of people. 100%!
this interview is so disturbing to me for so many reasons. the fact that he is smiling almost in some situations i can’t deal. tamrom asked the questions that we have all wanted to know for a year but the answers are so made up and insincere it’s unbelievable
So he can’t ever smile again?
when ppl are being interrogated or asked uncomfortable questions they just sometimes laugh to get off the pressure that builds up inside the body,
like for example in my therapy when i talked about suicidal thoughts because of being trans, i'd laugh because it's a uncomfortable topic and sometimes in your head
you also laugh about the thought process that leads up to things, it sounds more silly when you say it out loud than it does in your head, being completely alone.
@@hiddezonneveld5748 At this point I won't be surprised if this mob wants to see this guy's corpse paraded around the city. The horrible things this guy did in the past allows these people to release their own horrible tendencies without getting persecuted. We're all monsters, some of just became monsters in the wrong time and place.
Not defending him, but people laugh and smile when they’re nervous.
Look at them not replying cuz they know they wrong
10:37 the response is creepy. Almost "yeah ha ha thank you for buying into this and believing me..I DO have excuses!"
I’m not sure what Sherry wanted to accomplish here. But this wasn’t it.
I agree!
@blue star You are not God either so shut up!
I don't know what you want from her still
So what did you expect?
Y'all never going to forgive her so....
Just talk she obviously don’t try to go back to drag because this will follow her forever , I think she clumsily try to explain herself .
@blue star are you sherry pie hiding behind a different account. The original comment is correct. I don't know what "Joey" wanted to accomplish from this, but this interview didn't make it better in any way. He could have remained quiet bc no one truly wants to hear anything from him..
I can't say Joey/Sherry is or isn't sorry as it felt very confused. They didn't know what they wanted to say. I'd say they want to get back to performing, but haven't figured out how to speak about the crimes they've perpetrated. How about some advocacy and education work around victims of catfishing, that seems like the first healthy step. That is how you bring counterbalance to your wrongdoings.
That would be good on him but I don’t think anything will truly fix what he did. People will never want to see him positively again. And most will never trust him again. So far he had laid down and admitted to everything too so people have a green light to just annihilate him some more since he has the gull to admit to it.
Wow, someone talking about some positive action instead of calling names. We need more people like you
@@No-fr4ui Right? I almost dropped my phone out of shock. He’s literally the only one not calling for her to be burned out a stake.
Bennett’s Clarke Wow. Just wow. I wish you nothing but positive energy my friend. Forgiving, and focused on rehabilitation? You are truly one of kind and most certainly a rare breed. Stay positive🙏🏾
He did way more than just catfishing
It’s so jarring that they probably came into this interview expecting a pity party. I love that Tamron isn’t letting it happen while still getting information from them
They? You mean him there's only two genders
I love how he gets interrupted every few seconds 😂
Um...chile...anyways...stan the rest of the season 12 cast.
What, even the one who said people are privileged to be gay and collaborated with Jeffree Star?
@@joewhite4456 Are you really comparing young ignorance to what Joey did? Gigi has even said they'd learned a lot and are educating themselves every day.
@@PixelDollCovers where on earth did I compare the two? Or are you just making things up and telling me I said them? Just because you don't Stan two members of the cast doesn't mean you're comparing them or saying what they did is on a similar level.
@@joewhite4456 Sorry if it seemed like I was assuming. But it is odd and unnecessary to even bring another person up on this comment. Could have just ignored it. It's fine that you don't like Gigi. Many people don't. But I think they've grown a lot as a person, and I appreciate them caring so much about the BLM movement, and how much she supports other queens. They're a really talented queen! They've definitely made mistakes, but you probably have too, lol.
@@PixelDollCovers I have made mistakes, the other day I knocked a potted plant off the side, what I haven't done is publicly supported someone who is famously incredibly racist, which everyone knew to further my career. When she posted black lives matter on her Instagram all the top comments were calling her out for saying that whilst working with Jeffree Star, having him on her page, and following him and despite all that she still continued to follow him. It's no good preaching black lives matter then continuing to support someone who's famously racist even after being called out for it because all you're doing then is using the movement to make yourself look good whilst supporting those it's fighting against.
I love how Tam handled this interview and did her best to have him take accountability.
i have BPD and so does my cousin/best friend. and neither of us would do anything so disgraceful. that is NOT an excuse.
wish there were more comments about this
they literally both said it’s not an excuse. y’all didn’t listen?
@@agape194 uh yes but it needs to be emphasised because people jump to blame mental health issues especially BPD which is heavily stigmatised
@@sophiekm26 it might need to be reemphasized but writing "that's not an excuse" when they both said it wasn't just doesn't make any sense.
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Why is he smiling during answering the questions?? I literally can not deal, he isn’t sorry at all!!
I wouldn't call that a happy smile, it is more of an uncomfortable smile. Many people look like that under pressure.
That's actually a pretty common nervous reaction
Its a nervous reaction
Loves the spotlight no matter what. Nervous schmervous.
It was not a happy smile at all but more submissive and uncomfortable smile. Easy to tell the difference
She ain’t sorry! It’s been on record that the day prior her releasing the Facebook statement, she was messaging people still under the name of Allison! So she’s not sorry about hurting the victims!
how did he hurt the victims? did he have phyisical contact with them?
@@tonosazules8221 he made some of them take Steroids promising them that it would get them the job, even went as far to tell one of them who was diabetic to just not eat sugar and that he would be fine, when he could’ve died.
Hurting them isn’t just about hitting them or doing something physical
@@babyboywhispers3039 can that be legally prosecuted as scam? he would be considered a scammer
@@tonosazules8221 tragically no, it can’t be persecuted as it is not seen as Illegal, it’s just seen as immoral
@@babyboywhispers3039 sorry... what Sherry did was wrong- but she did not MAKE anyone take steroids or put their health in danger due to blood sugar issues. There’s also a huge element of personal responsibility at play here. Yes, she posed as someone who was offering a great opportunity to these men, which does create a power imbalance- but they were not forced into doing anything. They were manipulated, but anything they did, they did on their own, and could have chosen to stop at any time. The promise of fame and money kept them going - which is understandable and also fucked up. But to say she made someone take steroids is quite the reach. That’s like me blaming someone else for shooting up heroin, even though I’m the one holding the needle.
I was expecting this to be awful, but I’m impressed with how Tamron conducted this interview
BPD doesnt cause you to sexually manipulate and extort your friends and loved ones...
He’s such a compulsive liar, there’s no way I can take anything he says as truth
Ew the first words out of his mouth, he seemed happy to be on camera again. Just ew
It gave me chills, like wtf
right!!!
Sherrys face every time she got interrupted 😂😂😂
Taamron these dislikes are because the viewers hate Sherri and not you.
You did an amazing interview and CHECKED Sherri Pie and held your own.
Amazing 💕
It’s so uncomfortable how he keeps smiling and laughing. So gross.
It’s a psychological response to fear
... Girl.
I also wanted to write this. It's definitely a symptom of stress. However, with an interview like this, he could control it. It's hard to believe his sadness ....
“This wasn’t something that I, DEEP DOWN, felt good about doing.” Between that sentence and that creepy smile he keeps sliding in there, my feelings on this predator have not changed.
He was smiling because he’s getting camera time
Not defending Joey in any way but people laugh and smile when they’re nervous
He could have said “sorry” in a UA-cam video by himself. He clearly just was looking for that and it would have gotten the same amount of views. This is a pathetic mess.
They’re contracted not to be able to do media appearances without WOW say so for 1 year after DR. This insincere attempt at a ‘ 1 year later this is what ive learned’ approach seems more damaging than just saying nothing. Shame as she had great potential and talent.
@@josephrotchford-lloyd2282 oh yeah I forgot about that but does it still count with sherry pie ? Cuz I think WoW doesn’t want to be associated them
@@josephrotchford-lloyd2282 I'd like to know if this was him contacting the show or vice versa. Either Sherry did this all by herself or he threw out everything that was rehearsed beforehand with his lawyer/ PR team. Regardless, this also shows just how unwell a person he is in the head and clearly he is not stable enough in the head to be working in drag let alone a regular job for that matter. The fact that he seems to miss these people and they were considered friends in some cases is just not normal.
@@Aria_Angra They might not get paid well but they do get paid to appear on the show. So, disqualified or not the contract still has to be honored I suppose.
@@anthonyL1995 oh ok Ty I already was wondering but ur answer seems right
3:50 love it Tamron!! She didn't let him worm his way out of the question "what have you done for the community you destroyed by reinforcing all these horrible stereotypes of the gay community." He didn't answer that cause he has done NOTHING for the community... he's only working on himself because he honestly only cares about himself. And I don't believe for a second he really worked on himself bc I think he would do it again if he knew he could get away with it!
And that's why these conversations are important. You took now how are you giving back?
Wat was the point of having this interview in the first place?
Isn't it better he avoids the gay community? Who would want him around?
But there are many levels of it. Not one experience is the same as next one.
“Im prepared to take any responsibilty” he says whilst shaking his head profusely
The body language says it all!!!
Wow you are genious. Maybe the shaking was because he thought about his horrible actions
I think he should just switch career cause there is not way he can get some coins moving forward with this one.
Even at the beginning of the season, I never liked Sherry Pie. Something was off! And here we are
Watching this makes me feel uncomfortable.... I don't trust him I don't believe him and I don't want to hear about him ever again
Then just don’t watch it
Ok so good bye ✋🏻
Bye girl! Nobody knows who you are or care how you feel 👋👋
I was reading about allegations in 2020 and when I read about Joey I was honestly disgusted, and to people in this and other comment sections defending him you guys are sick, put yourself in the victims shoes before you start groveling at this monsters feet
he’s only sorry because he got caught
Well, this interview did nothing.
People diagnosed with BPD already have enough stigma attached to them. Your actions are your own fault because of who you are, not what you have. Stop blaming it on a disorder that you can't even explain, stop blaming it on everything else, but you.
Manipulative behavior, fear of abandonment, relationship problems, he said a lot of things that meet the criteria of a borderline. It's going to be hard for people to understand what he's talking about and why he is apologizing. Its a complex disorder and very difficult to treat.
@@melmom1102 I am diagnosed with it too. What he is doing is trying to pinpoint the blame onto it, people diagnosed with BPD already have a huge stigma attached to having it, it really doesn't help. No matter how your disorder makes you irrational or affects your behaviour you don't just decide to pray on others. Normally it is a case of harming themselves not others.
@@melmom1102 I'm not saying he doesnt have it, he should of at least educated himself on his own disorder before he tried to pin point the blame onto it. It's his own doing.
@@Jon-go2pn “Normally it is a case of harming themselves not others.”
TYSM for pointing this out. I have BPD too and that was my first thought when he attributed his behaviour to his intense fear of abandonment. Usually that results in the sufferer harming THEMSELVES.
Not only does he have to play into the stereotypes about drag and lgbtq+, but he also has to try and take BPD down with him too. Just awesome he clearly learned his lesson 🤦🏻♀️
He keeps on looking down and is obviously reading from prepared answers.
Your ignorant. Not everything is planned
It’s the constant smiling and laughing for me 🤨
This interview added nothing to this case. Sherry should've made an apology video and then retire from drag and stay away from the public eye. Sadly for her, nobody is gonna care about her career. She showed no true remorse or anything. I feel kinda sorry for her🙄.
She doesn’t have to do what you wish. Public humiliation is already a punishment, she’s been cancelled by most the community and had to stop her passion. The first victim who spoke out has an only fan so I guess whatever Alisson asked him for free now he does it for money.
@@PaperVisions uh, gross and irrelevant thing to bring up.
@PaperVisions.... so you’re victim shaming- shameful
“I spoke to 3 of the victims :)” omg why is he saying that like it’s a good thing? Why hasn’t he spoken and privately apologised to ALL 20+ of them???
@erik okay but he's not denying that they're victims how do you want him to say it then? I mean christ he's owning up to whats happened
Fr like these obnoxious people in the comments. Bruh he apologized and talked to the victims. What do you want him to do
@@whalewolf7477 NO he’s talked to 3!!! This happened to 20+ people. We want him to disappear from the public eye never to return. The fact that you all think this predator came on live tv just to apologise is quite hilarious. No this man is trying to wiggle his way back into the spotlight and we can not let that happen
He could have sent an apology to all the victims however only 3 of them responded back? If someone did that to me and apologized, I wouldn't want to reply back to them either.
@@Lil_Angry_Bitch “could have” why are y’all trying to defend a sexual predator it’s really quite concerning
_"I don't know if after I do this interview if more will come forward."_
Wow. That makes me sick. I personally think that the victims should be given a platform to speak. Not him.
Retitle, Joey spends 12 minutes talking about himself and being a victim while Tamron tries to keep him on topic.
I’m not buying the whole voice quivering acting. He doesn’t care, he’s done this for a long time but his acting is not convincing.
SEND HIM TO JAIL
I was catfished by someone when I was 23. I fell in love with an imaginary person and it went on for months. I was so blind to the red flags because of the love I felt that I refused to see the reality of the situation for such a long time. When I finally discovered the truth, I went through a "breakup" with this imaginary person they had created and it hurt like a bitch.
I moved on and I dont have any lasting pain from it. I dont care about it anymore and I don't feel the need to get justice or revenge for what happened. Hopefully the victims of Sherry Pie can move past their experiences too.
As for Sherry, I guess a lot of people have stronger opinions about how she should repent - or be punished - than I do. I just hope that she truly has grown as a person and won't go back to her old ways.
This was hard to watch, he should just stop he should of stayed away for longer then just a year. Like honestly he should of done this interview like 5 years later or
More so we can see what he has done to chance
@Jeff Newtown It wasn't just pictures, it was worse than that. He could also face criminal charges. If you don't see anything wrong with what he did, then that's a reflection on you.
@@rachs6640 but did those “victims” had right to say yes or no to that? Yes they had. They didn’t do enough research and blindly accepted it and now they feel like victims. The idea of sherry doing catfishing is bad, I agree totally, but those men are fully grown up and can surely do research. They were just horny and wanted to send their body. Not sherrys fault, but only theirs. Even if my best friend told me that that agency is legit and I had interest in that, even tho she’s my best friend I would do a fully research to see if it’s really legit or not. They didn’t do that and it’s clearly their fault. None of this would happen if they used their brain to thing and not their horny d”cs
Y'all, read the allegations. It wasn't on social media. This was calculated fraud on many occasions that included money and manipulation. If you're just writing this off, you don't know what actually happened
On the other side, Sherry Could've been a queen we could've loved.
Her Style Her Fashion, Runways,
But we all know, what she did, it was so bad/ "HORRIBLE" AND "DISGUSTING" to think about. I think she should not speak anymore and turn her face to the public back.
As someone with borderline personality disorder, I am so happy when she said and we wouldn’t let you. mental illness does not excuse anything
He looks like the guy from al’s toy barn
LMAO
and he looks as lonely and sad
You floored me with this comment 😂
As Sherry he looked like that mad woman from Mulan
I had to look up what the guy from al's toy barn looked like and now I'm laughing 😂😂😂😂
He didn't come close to explaining what BPD really is.
The way he described it almost felt offensive to me
That's because he doesn't have it... he's just grasping for straws trying to blame anything but himself for his nastiness.
@@kayredmond2395 Agreed!
Yeah, I've known people with BPD, and this ain't it chief. He's a sociopath.
Honestly I hate that he mentioned it. I have BPD and this is gonna just add to the stigma :c
There are a lot of people and possibly drag racers that have not admitted to wrong doings like he has done.
Some on his season. He gets the sharp end of the stick for admitting it. They get to go on with their careers.
That's very true.
Dude, duh, everyone has done fucked up things. And what’s done in the dark will come to light but this speculative negativity is the last thing that’s productive.
@@mazlox4865 like who sis
There’s a million of predators even in the comments you know. Those people spreading hate pretending they’re angels are also really dangerous.
2 min in and Sherry is already evading. Direct answers please.
Why has this not been taken further? How has she got away with even saying "more(!) may come forward"?! Why is she not on trial?? If someone genuinely knows how she is not on trial, like if it has to be the victims to sue her someone tell me.
Because it's not a crime....
@@Blaizeria but there are crimes such as financial fraud.
@@evieedwards1800 but what financial fraud was committed? He didnt steal their money or profit off of the non consented videos. Its all extraordinarily shitty and digusting things to do, but what actual monetary crime was committed?
@@ShaRutherford199 If I remember correctly, Sh**ry was actually /giving/ the men she was manipulating money.
@@GarLogan78 that’s not a crime either tho
What a gross situation. If I were him I’d be like “yeah I did it because I have a mean streak and it makes me feel comfortable to have power over people.” People just need him to admit that he repeatedly made conscious decisions to catfish his friends. I think that’s a healthy thing to do and the only way to move forward.
It's sadness all around. He couldn't stop himself from wrecking multiple men's lives. He was about to be ontop of the world and he wrecked it. I hope he can figure out how to make amends, make it right!! He owes those men.
He doesn’t deserve this spot light at all. I’m sad for the victims and the detailed horror he put them through. I’m sad for them having to relive their trauma.
@@sjont I agree. Especially because...who does this interview help? He doesnt get a comeback tour.
@@sillygoose6455 this interview was the first leg of the comeback tour. I don't know how soon it will happen but he will be back. He may not get as big of platform as he would have had at first. It's sad.
I followed sherry on Instagram to show support. Idc what u say about anything, I was raped when I was 16. I might be triggered if he was suddenly a superstar and no one knew. But sherry didnt raped anyone and the world knows. I’m ok support her and avoid her to kill herself.
@@PaperVisions what have you done for the victims...
Stop giving this man a platform.
She wears wedges, not platforms.
his facial expressions made me so mad bro acted like he was entitled to get out bs pr mending bullshit
@Gordon Bulloch people tend to smile when they’re nervous. Stop speaking bullshit
Is there more to the interview or is this it?
I think there is more aswell
Oooh My father let me.. oooh my mental illness messed it up but not entirely...my stepfather was not the best...ooh my comfort is handled by my actions of not feeling well knowing I cannot be trusted for asking nudes on fake castings ...Gurl, bye! Not a single statement that really works.
I think it’s time to quit Sherry and find another career choice. Interview didn’t help you, instead it triggered the victims and put a negative spotlight back on you. Continue to work on yourself and give back through advocacy. As for Sherry RIP.
very well done interview
It is pretty damn creepy to watch someone come on who seems to have no real desire to create a positive change from what they realize are negative actions. If Sherry was really sorry she could go on and promote awareness about abuse, catfishing, mental illness, and steroids. The way that Sherry keeps centering herself in this interview shows every mark of a sociopath.
girl go home with your pseudopsychology. I IN NO WAY agree with what he did, but there are so many underlying issues here. YOU are not the one to tell him how to express that he really is sorry.
This isn't the entire interview. idk if you've seen everything or the entire interview. did she not talk about that?
What do you want her to do? She is fully aware how toxic and unforgiving the fans are. I don't blame her for feeling defeated. She can donate millions and people still wont give her the time of day. Anything she does at this stage people will call preformative.
I'd like to point out something. I can't imagine that he could promote awareness about much of anything. This is the first and possibly only interview given after the news was released. I wouldn't imagine anyone giving him the time of day beyond this interview, I'm shocked even this happened. As for victims, do you really think most victims would be comfortable or accept an abuser out there spreading awareness for them? It seems like something that wouldn't work.
In my opinion the best thing for him to do is to work on himself in private, stay out of the media, and just try to have a normalish life.
He looks the penguin from batman forever lmao
WHY was this interview even given??? It's too soon, i think. He needs to go away. Stay out of the spotlight.
I didn’t think it was possible, but this made me dislike her even more.
Same. And then seeing her try to revamp herself on instagram, with her recent post and updated bio. Fade away, girl. Fade. Away.
He’s not sorry and his smile is creepy
He always gave me the creeps
Can you please use their proper pronouns? Thanks!
@@DetoxGreen does he not identify as a man?
He just described bipolar disorder not Borderline- they have similar symptoms but not the same. He diagnosed himself for pitty
i know its a hard question to ask but why cant we just forgive someone if theyve truly changed. of course, we cant be sure sherry is a full new person, but when will people just find it in their hearts to renew somones human worth and forgive them with honor and human dignity. she clearly knows what she did is wrong, and although the therapies she is doing are nothing insane, as long as they are routine, intensive, and well done, she should be able to find the root of her problems and truly go through a sort of rebirth into a newer grander person
Truly changed? Have you think about the damage he did to many. Have you ask yourself how they are? Instead of feeling sorry for him first?
@@ricardoderas4906 Of course I have; I'm not a sociopath. However, forgiveness should be offered for people who are trying to change. It's truly disgusting to not try to forgive someone after they are putting genuine effort into changing. I think Sherry should accept all legal consequences and then focus on bettering the community and herself, as she is trying to do now.
bpd is where you cannot correctly control your emotions and can make you impulsive, BUT i have never heard of anyone becoming this type of person due to it. its an emotion regulation disorder. not a predator maker
Not true. Do not self diagnose from the internet.
@@junctionvinyl4873 excuse me but I was diagnosed by a professional don't claim to know my story and jump to stupid conclusions like that.
Self diagnosis over the internet is fucking idiotic and accusing me of such is as well.
You don't know me so why jump to attack me?
AMEN.