Zoolock is the only deck I've been able to stop crystal cores with, and only when I get solid draws. -_- Have pondered on making a mage quest counter deck but I've never been a mage fan, and I'm not keen on making a deck that's only really effective against one specific build.
Thomas Davis Yeah, as it turns out this quest is actually most likely one of the strongest because of its 4 card requirement, but on paper it seems weak
I had a mage manage to polymorph my entire board with some kazakus cheating, luckily I just popped him in the face for 25 damage because my sheep turned into 5/5s, it's very memeworthy. Also I lost a game because deathwing got turned into a 5/5, it cuts both ways bros.
At some point I would like to see your version of the Hunter quest deck and how you would make it. Because right now I'm having trouble getting into mid late game because I just can't kill all of the stuff that my opponent puts out. So I am curious to see how you put your own spin on it
I was playing a version of this before the expansion and got to rank 8, and now people are playing real handlock again, with the Humongous, this was exactly what I hoped would happen :D Nice to see Trump trying other things than just the quests.
I think you may be wrong on Crystal Core. Every Rogue I have played today has gotten it off on turn four at the latest, one even did it turn one. This worries me because (I am running priest right now) it forces me to have two Dragonfire Potions, and it is probably two slow an answer and only really stalls the inevitable because they can draw a lot of cards.
i was playing today and the rogue finished the quest on turn 4, on turn 5 i just win the game whit my very bad aggro hunter, they focus to much on the quest and nearly do nothing to control the board so you have 4 or 5 "free" turns so when they complete the quest the game is already over, most of the time at least.
This pleases me then. From the standpoint of a Priest player, the Quest seems like the most broken card ever printed for this game; however it looks like Handlock is to much for it and it just dies to other aggro decks. Though it is possible some sort of optimized Crystal Core list may surface.
A. Sitek yeah forgot about that i have always been a handlock player and have most of the cards( literally just crafted elise and the plants with dust)
Discardzoo i think but the same that handlock or worse but maybe ia for efficient just the legendary without the quest and you don't have to craft ir in that case its cheap only the legendary but im sure at 99% that legendary is to broken and sure will see play in every discard warlock
I never thought I'd be happy to see Handlock come back... But something needs to beat these pirates.I'm sure I'm going to be looking back fondly at pirates after a month more of handlock being a thing again...
i literally disenchanted all my cards to make this deck. ive been looking for a good free-to-play deck without any adventure cards and this is it. and so far its pretty fun! :D thanks trump
Last season, I was playing hand lock on the wild ladder, and it was doing pretty good. It had a pretty good aggro matchup. With the only deck I never won against being anyfin pally, and my next worst matchup being egg Druid
Considering how fast Jens put this together I would've been better off waiting for this so I wouldn't have to see the "I'm so funny for spamming LUL" chat.
Crystal Core has worked out for me in this expansion so far, but the only matchups I've played against so far were priest, shaman, and 1 rogue quest mirror.
The game is crazy. Opened 23 decks today, no legendaries, Built a crappy Elemental Shaman deck, won around 20 games in a row. Last 7-8 all Quest Huntards. Lost to an incredibly lucky Quest Huntard. They should include more quests in the game, they are awesome, except the huntard one - too easy.
"I theory crafted Quest Rogue, and it never worked out in my mind"... Said 2 days ago. Now, the deck is fuckin' everywhere, and is an infection. Best meta deck IMHO, and I really hope Quest decks aren't the only way to go these days.
26:28 Trump missed lethal: Argus the 5/4 and 2/3 to kill the 6/6 taunt, run 3/4, 7/7 and weapon into face for 13 damage, then hellfire. The healing deathrattle will process after lethal is dealt and Trump still wins/
Not true actually, this effect is distinct from, say, truesilver, where the heal is a *trigger* that takes place before death is checked for. Deathrattles take place distinctly after deaths are checked for, so if you're at 0 or less before a deathrattle heal you still lose. This has been the case with hellfire+zombie chow, and nothing is different now.
I only watch trumps videos around the time new expansions come out and don't play anymore myself. How did power overwhelming rotate out? It was in the base set
caverns below seems kinda bad. played against a guy who did the quest on like turn 5 because he got the shaman deathrattle thing from his swashburglar but he never got to play it because it costs 5 and i just rolled him with control shaman
Jerry Grima Elise is in my opinion worst card in un'goro form, hunter now is back because carnassa makes AOE damage cards loved over 1 mana 3/2 card draws with 15 in deck bringing hunter great
Elise is quite good in control decks, but I think the meta is somewhat faster than it was in previous expansions as there is no more reno to heal ppl to full health, no more dragon priest / paladin and so on... Pirate decks are EVERYWHERE (even more prominent than in geringontzan) and most "quest" decks have their wincon ready at turn 6/7 even control decks aim to win by turn 7 or 8. Hunter quest is hit or miss (pretty much like the warlock quest, but somewhat better), if you can trigger it quickly and have a good board state you can win pretty much any matchup, but if they have a lot of AoE, huge taunts or spot removal your chances of victory is low. Either my hunter deck is not tunned enough or it's almost impossible to beat quest warrior or control mage. Also, fuck quest rogues! if they draw the nuts it's basically GG, no matter the deck you are using.
Mass dispel should work on crystal cored minions since it's a buff effect and it is stated in mass dispel "scilence all enemy minions, draw a card." And crystal core is a buff effect.
Jordan Albee crystal core affects all minions of yours. You can have only two hex and polymorph in deck. Mass dispel works on ALL minions, not just one.
Don't know what to say about the crystal core rogue, played a few games against some rogues, and between charging pirates and boars, brewmasters, shadowsteps, preparation and ferryman plus perfect draws they managed to kill me before turn 6-7, Maybe I got unlucky and they got the perfect draws but they won and it did seem viable.
in my first Un'goro game i envenomed my dagger to poke a galvadon to death. good times. I played a few rogue questers most of the times they were pretty slow but one time they just got the god draw player swashbucklerr 5 times and cast the core turn 5.
Out of all of the 58 Un'Goro packs I opened today, the only two legionaries I got were Lyra the Sunshard and The Caverns Below, which I am kinda dejected about since they are probably the worst ones I could have gotten :I Well, I suppose two craps legionaries are better than none.
If Handlock becomes a thing in this expansion, expect Aggro Elemental Shaman/Tempo mage to answer the meta. This deck is a great control deck but health is so low for many burn spells
to cast the rogue legendary after all that deckcrafting around it, it shouldnt cost 5 mana to play. After reading some comments, it seems like the rogue quest is doing good, nvm then. Seemed kind of costly at the start but I guess iff u don't have handlocks answers it might not be as easy.
Rogue's very good right now, it simply has no outs against the new Freeze Mage Variant. I have never seen so much viable deck variety though with this set. They removed almost all the toxic cards that needed to go in rotation. I'm excited.
At rank 15, Trump trash talks Quest Rogue. Meanwhile, at Rank 1 Legend, apparently Dog got there with Quest Rogue. Not sure whether to give more credibility to Rank 15 or Legend...
Trump is a douchebag and it's why i stsopped watching his videos.His monologues make me cringe and he constantly trashtalks literally everything.And it's not like he says "meh why are you playing the rogue quest,it sucks".He continues for 10 minues about it,which is annoying as hell.
Im cryng right now i start playing hearthstone after black rock mountain to play handlock but i was new and don't have the cards to play it then they nerf the molten giants and handlock die but now handlock maybe can reborn and i can play it now tomorrow is the release in europe and these will be my first deck, life is wonderfull
"Unfortunately, he can not make it past the wall!" - Trump, 2017
Zakading hhahahahhahahahahha
Also, "We're going to make handlock great again"
Just geht the Pirates back to Sea and build this fucking wall
You made my day be 10% better lol
" *insert video quote here* " - *insert name here* , *insert date here*
20 mins into the expansion and Trump's already building walls.
DammitSinged it gets ten feet higher every time he faces pirate warrior
Don't worry though, he's gonna make the pirate warriors pay for it.
But what if they build their own walls and start shooting fireballs at ours? Then we r screwed ;_;
Gotta give credit to the guy playing pirate warrior 20 minutes after the expansion. That's some serious scumbag dedication.
Disguised Toast is 12-0 with Quest Rogue
He says there is no counter.
Trump smashes Quest Rogue.
Conclusions: Trump is playing at rank 15
3/30 cards in Trump's deck are from the Ungoro expansion. SeemsGood 👍😀
but he would never built that without them ;)
Trump was so wrong about crystal core. Handlock is really good though
crystal core is the new meta basically
Pirates are still better.
Idk I have shit on a lot of the rouges with new zoo
Zoolock is the only deck I've been able to stop crystal cores with, and only when I get solid draws. -_-
Have pondered on making a mage quest counter deck but I've never been a mage fan, and I'm not keen on making a deck that's only really effective against one specific build.
and he´s so confident in being arrogant as well. amazing.
6:02 biggest roast of un'goro so far
you forgot about 17:43
Dude i thought the exact same thing
Trump's roast, best roast!
Turns out bounce rogue is currently one of the most broken decks right now. Should have seen the last few games of his stream
Thomas Davis Yeah, as it turns out this quest is actually most likely one of the strongest because of its 4 card requirement, but on paper it seems weak
The rogue quest is insane. Soon you will know of the rogue's TRUE POWA!
*cough* *cough* Moroes.. *cough* *cough*
Deadpool THE Meme yeah the 1/1s go to 5/5s
I had a mage manage to polymorph my entire board with some kazakus cheating, luckily I just popped him in the face for 25 damage because my sheep turned into 5/5s, it's very memeworthy.
Also I lost a game because deathwing got turned into a 5/5, it cuts both ways bros.
no no no he spawn 5/5...
why would you even put dw in that deck :D that deck was intent for low cost minions that have low stat but high utility... dw is a 12/12...
That is one cool ending editing, I have to say.
Good job, Jens, you magnificient man.
19:00 The instant he draws the best card in the game he decides to not taunt anymore.
"I am so happy to be playing handlock again" look at all that joy...
I believe this should be called the "Wallock".
At some point I would like to see your version of the Hunter quest deck and how you would make it. Because right now I'm having trouble getting into mid late game because I just can't kill all of the stuff that my opponent puts out. So I am curious to see how you put your own spin on it
MichaelinaPandasuit i would recomend putting in swamp ling dred and king crush to contest the bigger minions
Trump crapping on quest rogue at the beginning and playing handlock LUL
Because he didn't finish and prep the quest turn 4 like in most of my games pre-nerf.. :D
Thanks Trump! I was actually having troubles building this deck, simply didnt have a way to actually finish a game. I got some new ideas from this ;)
I was playing a version of this before the expansion and got to rank 8, and now people are playing real handlock again, with the Humongous, this was exactly what I hoped would happen :D Nice to see Trump trying other things than just the quests.
I think you may be wrong on Crystal Core.
Every Rogue I have played today has gotten it off on turn four at the latest, one even did it turn one. This worries me because (I am running priest right now) it forces me to have two Dragonfire Potions, and it is probably two slow an answer and only really stalls the inevitable because they can draw a lot of cards.
i was playing today and the rogue finished the quest on turn 4, on turn 5 i just win the game whit my very bad aggro hunter, they focus to much on the quest and nearly do nothing to control the board so you have 4 or 5 "free" turns so when they complete the quest the game is already over, most of the time at least.
This pleases me then. From the standpoint of a Priest player, the Quest seems like the most broken card ever printed for this game; however it looks like Handlock is to much for it and it just dies to other aggro decks.
Though it is possible some sort of optimized Crystal Core list may surface.
Little did Trump know that about 2 hours later, Caverns Rogue was everywhere.
Feels weird seeing a control warlock deck with duplicates again :D
Hell yes, I really hope it's actually back. Handlock was definitely a favorite of mine.
Man im so glad to see handlock be playable again
i missed handlock so much
im happy to see it comming back
i have like 2k plus dust and am thinking of crafting a new deck what deck is "meta" for un'goro
play handlock
Handlock look amazing as you see,but it will cost you 7000 dust to craft from start if you dont have a lot of cards that he have
A. Sitek yeah forgot about that
i have always been a handlock player and have most of the cards( literally just crafted elise and the plants with dust)
Discardzoo i think but the same that handlock or worse but maybe ia for efficient just the legendary without the quest and you don't have to craft ir in that case its cheap only the legendary but im sure at 99% that legendary is to broken and sure will see play in every discard warlock
Alberto Encinar Velayos what i think you can craft with low dust is the hunter quest deck
I never thought I'd be happy to see Handlock come back... But something needs to beat these pirates.I'm sure I'm going to be looking back fondly at pirates after a month more of handlock being a thing again...
Is the day finally here? Has Handlock finally made a comeback?! Can the deck that I have had the most individual success with be good again?!
Love Jens's thumbnail - I scrolled passed and then thought, "Why's there razorleaf in a Trump video?" I had to click to find out...
i literally disenchanted all my cards to make this deck. ive been looking for a good free-to-play deck without any adventure cards and this is it. and so far its pretty fun! :D thanks trump
Last season, I was playing hand lock on the wild ladder, and it was doing pretty good. It had a pretty good aggro matchup. With the only deck I never won against being anyfin pally, and my next worst matchup being egg Druid
YES! My favorite deck is back! And I still have the core cards! PLEASE REMAIN IN THE META!
Considering how fast Jens put this together I would've been better off waiting for this so I wouldn't have to see the "I'm so funny for spamming LUL" chat.
11:47 Epic Jurassic Park reference when Cornered Sentry dies!
Make handlock great again - Trump 2017
Please do a hunter quest, u said it was going to be insane based off of the card ratings. Would love to see what you do with it
At the last turn argus, hit + coil the taunt and then hellfire would have been lethal, right?
so does the elise trailblazer pack, just give you 5 random cards from the new expansion? i just wanna see it in action ughh he never drew the pack
New expansion rolls out, with many new deck possibilities and Trump immediately goes back to one of the oldest archetypes...
Because it s arguably the most skillfull deck this game ever had and also very satisfying to play, and it wasn't viable since the molten giant nerf
Amazing! XD
...which is finally viable again with the new cards
Flavio Fernandes There's not a lot good decks for Warlocks just Discolock, Handlock, and Zoo.
Crystal Core has worked out for me in this expansion so far, but the only matchups I've played against so far were priest, shaman, and 1 rogue quest mirror.
Such an underestimation of the Rogue Quest
I like the look of this deck. It harkens back to old school handlock.
yay, for un'goro. unfortunatly pretty late in EU
when ? day 7 ?
it will most likely it around 3/4 in the morning for me on day 7 indeed.
Dutch The Guy We will wait it out!
God Emperor ,please make the expansion release healty and without jade and pirate warriors let us be your spacemarines in hearthstone
There's still some chodes running pirate on NA so you'll have plenty of heretics to burn.
The game is crazy. Opened 23 decks today, no legendaries, Built a crappy Elemental Shaman deck, won around 20 games in a row. Last 7-8 all Quest Huntards. Lost to an incredibly lucky Quest Huntard. They should include more quests in the game, they are awesome, except the huntard one - too easy.
Jens deserves a fucking reward, telling us that the windows sound was on Trump's end!
"I theory crafted Quest Rogue, and it never worked out in my mind"... Said 2 days ago.
Now, the deck is fuckin' everywhere, and is an infection. Best meta deck IMHO, and I really hope Quest decks aren't the only way to go these days.
Trump: Make Handlock great again
Oh that first pirate game felt too satisfying
Getting flashbacks to when Trump almost exclusively played Handlock... Good times. He was REALLY good at it.
26:28 Trump missed lethal: Argus the 5/4 and 2/3 to kill the 6/6 taunt, run 3/4, 7/7 and weapon into face for 13 damage, then hellfire. The healing deathrattle will process after lethal is dealt and Trump still wins/
Joshua Caviness no. it doesn't matter that the healing happens after the opponent would still live
Not true actually, this effect is distinct from, say, truesilver, where the heal is a *trigger* that takes place before death is checked for. Deathrattles take place distinctly after deaths are checked for, so if you're at 0 or less before a deathrattle heal you still lose. This has been the case with hellfire+zombie chow, and nothing is different now.
I am from the future, brings a tear to my eye to see the first 6 minutes of hating on quest rogue. I know what is to come...
The Rogue Quest is actually terrifying, built correctly the deck can be churning out 5/5s from as early as t3/4
it's funny how they have same day uploads on expansion day but prior to, the videos posted were from week old plus games. makes you wonder
"Maybe he would've saved himself 1600 dust"
1 week later that 1600 dust investment becomes part of one most busted decks of the expansion.
I only watch trumps videos around the time new expansions come out and don't play anymore myself. How did power overwhelming rotate out? It was in the base set
Trevor Stillson They did a Hall of Fame thing, where some staple base set cards rotated out, like Rag.
that guy Oh Shit, well that's a good way to shake up the sets. Thanks for the info!
And Azure Drake and Sylvanas.
BabyRage JENS BabyRage
Great work so far Jens!
aslo dude at 26:30 you missed lethal:
you attack the taunt shamble, heal yourself, the hell fire and go face
I feel like we're going to come back here in 3 months if handlock dominates the meta and bemoan this as the beginning of the end.
Literally qued while watching this and faced this deck 4 times out of the 5 warlocks I faced. Black Knight is making a come back xD
Handlock is my all time favorite desk, Trump make Handlock great again.
Crystal Cove + Violet Teacher + Razorpetals = More fun than I had with Gadgetzan.
But that's just me, The guy who still uses Blade Flurry.
Hey Trump, I just wonder, How do you play this deck against the Murloc quest? Ps, love your videos!
what's the epic song around 10:35 ?
caverns below seems kinda bad. played against a guy who did the quest on like turn 5 because he got the shaman deathrattle thing from his swashburglar but he never got to play it because it costs 5 and i just rolled him with control shaman
I wonder how Trump would have reacted if that first rogue game ended how it usually does: all return cards on starting hand and quest done by turn 4.
looks like trump is returning to his hand lock roots
Forsen will never tap while his hand is full...
LUL
Love this Trump deck you need to play more of it
He's gonna make handlock great again
Can Anyone help me
What is better
Elise trailblazer
Or
Hunter quest
Jerry Grima Elise is in my opinion worst card in un'goro form, hunter now is back because carnassa makes AOE damage cards loved over 1 mana 3/2 card draws with 15 in deck bringing hunter great
Elise is quite good in control decks, but I think the meta is somewhat faster than it was in previous expansions as there is no more reno to heal ppl to full health, no more dragon priest / paladin and so on...
Pirate decks are EVERYWHERE (even more prominent than in geringontzan) and most "quest" decks have their wincon ready at turn 6/7 even control decks aim to win by turn 7 or 8.
Hunter quest is hit or miss (pretty much like the warlock quest, but somewhat better), if you can trigger it quickly and have a good board state you can win pretty much any matchup, but if they have a lot of AoE, huge taunts or spot removal your chances of victory is low.
Either my hunter deck is not tunned enough or it's almost impossible to beat quest warrior or control mage.
Also, fuck quest rogues! if they draw the nuts it's basically GG, no matter the deck you are using.
Mass dispel should work on crystal cored minions since it's a buff effect and it is stated in mass dispel "scilence all enemy minions, draw a card." And crystal core is a buff effect.
Ragnaros THE memelord tell that to hex and polymorph
Jordan Albee crystal core affects all minions of yours. You can have only two hex and polymorph in deck. Mass dispel works on ALL minions, not just one.
Is there any replacements for Elise Trailblazer?
I don't have Jaraxxus and Elise. What cards to replace them?
That moment when the new expansion comes out but your rank 15 Brain tells you to play pirate warrior
Don't know what to say about the crystal core rogue, played a few games against some rogues, and between charging pirates and boars, brewmasters, shadowsteps, preparation and ferryman plus perfect draws they managed to kill me before turn 6-7, Maybe I got unlucky and they got the perfect draws but they won and it did seem viable.
Dog hit rank 1 legend on NA with it. Early days (hours) but it looks strong and Trump could easily have egg on his face...again :P
3 out of 4 times vs rogue so far said rogue has activated the quest at exactly turn 5. I think it's MUCH stronger than it seems.
Only face aggro stop it
Little did anyone know, that first guy had the right idea
i opened two gold Humongous Razorleafs today...i think it's a sign of good things to come...
Control and mid-range games are back!
i want to craft the rest of the carfs i need for this Deck, but im not sure if it will stay a good Deck..
My elemental shaman is 22 - 2, lost the 2 games to the wall quest warrior deck
in my first Un'goro game i envenomed my dagger to poke a galvadon to death. good times.
I played a few rogue questers most of the times they were pretty slow but one time they just got the god draw player swashbucklerr 5 times and cast the core turn 5.
Trump looks so joyful being able to play handlock again.
Out of all of the 58 Un'Goro packs I opened today, the only two legionaries I got were Lyra the Sunshard and The Caverns Below, which I am kinda dejected about since they are probably the worst ones I could have gotten :I Well, I suppose two craps legionaries are better than none.
Welp, I constructed a Below Caverns deck and it still hasn't lost a game. I am not sure if I should feel pleased or horrified right now.
Anyone have any good replacements for elise trailblazer?
If Handlock becomes a thing in this expansion, expect Aggro Elemental Shaman/Tempo mage to answer the meta. This deck is a great control deck but health is so low for many burn spells
to cast the rogue legendary after all that deckcrafting around it, it shouldnt cost 5 mana to play.
After reading some comments, it seems like the rogue quest is doing good, nvm then. Seemed kind of costly at the start but I guess iff u don't have handlocks answers it might not be as easy.
Do you think you can change Trailblazer for Malcheezaar?
Honestly, trump seems awfully happy seeing other people complete quests then he is at winning the game.
Scientist at heart indeed
Installing hearthstone again, just to play some good ol handlock.
Ladder is already everyone playing Quest Rogue. Partly because its the first seemingly broken thing and mostly the new swag hero.
Trump is such a savage but he's so passive you just never see it coming
Dropped tears of happiness for those pirate-warriors! And goodbye Reno,noone will miss you
Rogue's very good right now, it simply has no outs against the new Freeze Mage Variant. I have never seen so much viable deck variety though with this set. They removed almost all the toxic cards that needed to go in rotation. I'm excited.
Yep but they add a new one , the rogue quest
2:50 Woah Trumps going crazy with the roasts
At rank 15, Trump trash talks Quest Rogue.
Meanwhile, at Rank 1 Legend, apparently Dog got there with Quest Rogue.
Not sure whether to give more credibility to Rank 15 or Legend...
He got to rank 1 legend in a day with one deck? That's impressive.
Just an all around balance and interactive deck
Andrew H. , it's six days into the season but yeah the deck did really, really, well
Jaeus A Well, Trump did stomp that game
Trump is a douchebag and it's why i stsopped watching his videos.His monologues make me cringe and he constantly trashtalks literally everything.And it's not like he says "meh why are you playing the rogue quest,it sucks".He continues for 10 minues about it,which is annoying as hell.
Im cryng right now i start playing hearthstone after black rock mountain to play handlock but i was new and don't have the cards to play it then they nerf the molten giants and handlock die but now handlock maybe can reborn and i can play it now tomorrow is the release in europe and these will be my first deck, life is wonderfull
Poor EU players once again...
_Press F to pay respects._
dire wolf α noone cares about them
poor NA players can't play Reno in standard
F LUL
Come on give us poor EU players some love... :'(
dire wolf α when WE can Open our packs ? need to know
"This rogue quest will never be good" ends up being one of the best
thanks for the heads up jens @9:09
trump lord of despair (the fifth yet to be discovered chaos god from warhammer)
This deck needs bit more reactive stuff, maybe a Twitsting Nether or something. It seems so hard to stabilise post-Jaraxxus.
Almost read it as Pant Lock and then I thought, oh boy I wonder if Trump bought trousers to match his flower shirts.
Is Trump versing Amaz this expansion???? Those were always some of the best Trump videos imo.