Batteries don't ship here, buying a Ecoflow comes out cheaper, I can easily build one, but will cost me more money, these batteries are good to fill a power gap.
@Brockleejohnson not here lol, I would have to use lead acid, but I'm exploring options right now, the only 12v lithium battery that ships here cost $449+ shipping and taxes, close to $600, that's the battery alone.
@@MosaicHomestead ok so you basically just proved you could beat it yourself because after that it’s just 2 wires and the inverter 😎 easy done. They charge you to make it look pretty with those lil boxes but it’s super simple and a lot cheaper to do it yourself. You easily save $2-3 even $500 in some cases just gotta hunt for the best deal.
@Brockleejohnson My problem isn't building a battery, I've been building stuff like this since Radio shack was around, I even built my own wind and solar, my problem is getting material like you do for cheap, in the US, this is possible, here it's going to be more money 💰, and will be a lot cheaper considering the Ecoflow Ultra 3 cost over 6k 😆
Oftentimes, by the time you buy all those "extras," you're better off spending a little extra money for the portability, functionality and compactness of a regular power station. I got regulated 12V out, I got multiple USB ports, built in light, built in solar input, multiple AC outlets, over curent, over power, all kinds of built in protection all in a compact design. I don't need a cart, I can drop it in its carry case and pick it up with one hand.
You're right, it's easy to build them. It's just battery and inverter and a couple of wires. I think people are mainly lazy but they complain if they have to have to pay a lot of money.
@@OurBlackCatCottage Yeah that's why a battery with an inverter hooked up looks, functions and is as convenient as an engineered all in one unit. It would seem you don't understand what simple means
you are right you build it then you know how to fix it i have a 5000 reliable i use full time, and diy lithium batterys with a make sky blue knock off mppt charge controller works great the only thing is more batterys what i have are full by 10 am , using 0 gauge bat cables work great
There was a time where this was very cost effective, but the turnkey form factor and lower prices have made the extra money worth it for the average person.
We don't have to buy a fancy smart phone when we can buy a flip phone and attach a small monitor with a Raspberry Pi strapped to it for a fraction of the price. But most people want the iPhone because it's pre-built, all-in-one, looks cool, and just works. But I get your point. What you explained can be applied to most things.
@@OurBlackCatCottage It was the best analogy I could think of for solar generators -- which is a pretty niche subject. Thanks for the reply and your content.
Anything you build yourself won't be as portable, compact and light however. I have a Ecoflow Delta Max 2, just the battery is almost as big and heavy. There is no way you could build something that compact and light yourself.
I get what hes saying, but just bought an Ecoflow River Pro 2 set. Once I understand it in and out, maybe Ill build a cheap version, but until then, yes indeed, the EcoFlow is pretty tight and is no brainer for emergencies and beyond.
4 24 Volt 100ah Lithium Iron Phosphate Batteries are $1,200.00 now and a 24/1200 VICTRON PHOENIX Low Frequency Inverter handles Anything You Toss at IT 👌🇺🇸
Any suggestions on which inverters & battery mfgs to stay away from? Is there a sweet spot of cost / performance? Should I only buy a True Sinewave inverter? Thanks
I agree you don't have to buy one. Pat, it is much more simple and easy to buy one. You skipped an MPPT solar charger ac charger app integration. Bluetooth monitoring internet monitoring. Just the seamless aspect of these in a compact unit can make it worth it. I built one and bought one roughly the same amount of power. Less convenient for transportation, the one I built. Plus all the safety precautions taken and built in is great on these devices
@@OurBlackCatCottage I have plans on building one just for entertainment, I'm on solar but recently bought a Ecoflow because lithium batteries don't ship here where I live, but recently I've seen some batteries on Amazon that might ship...A Ecoflow ultra 3 cost over 6k here, that's how bad things are here in the tropics.
yeah i see them cost like 2k when you can easy make one for not even half the cost and more capacity and powerful.. sure it wont look as good in the case like the ones they sell but you get more bang for your buck when its DIY and best part when DIY its easy to fix
There is a lot of value and convenience in having a solar cotroller, battery, invertert, and multi-format power delivery system contained in a single light weight modular unit. Much easier to move and transport than separate modules and components that require interconnecting cables and other hardware considerations. There is definitely a place for these self contained power storage and distribution units in the marketplace. They are a real value with all that they have to offer.
Why would you take a power station with you when camping? That sounds ridiculous. Camping is "roughing" it. No cell phones, lights, computers, TV's etc. Just the light of the camp fire. If you're gonna do that then you might as well stay home.
I've got a powerstation/solar panels/starlink so I can work wherever. It gives me more freedom planning extended trips so I don't have to eat all of my PTO in just driving time; I can take a day or two to get to my destination, stay there for a week (hiking in the mornings or afternoons if I'm not lazy) and then either move on to another spot or work my way back home if i want a short trip. Done with work? Turn everything off, light a fire, and crack a cold one. To each their own.
Obviously this guy is not telling the truth. He almost admits it. A portable power station Is a battery (usually a 48v LiFePo), 120v inverter, 12v and 5v power converters, and now days a wireless phone charger, a display screen, and a wifi and/or Bluetooth unit. All packaged in a nice case. The Peceon E1500 (the one I bought) weighs a manageable 40 lbs. Also Pecrons come with several cords and adaptors for under $700
Here's an "inconvenient truth", you can do some internet legwork and get some great pricing on a "fancy" lifepo4 power station. Another inconvenient truth, they come with various and multiple plug ins and power charging options as opposed to your method of juggling batteries and inverters with the extremely limited and minimal usage options detailed above. Do what you wish but don't try to make those of us who are knowledgeable, did our homework, and use these on a regular basis out to be idiots just wasting our money.money.
1.3 kw system for $800 ecoflow solar charger can't beat that price
Batteries don't ship here, buying a Ecoflow comes out cheaper, I can easily build one, but will cost me more money, these batteries are good to fill a power gap.
You can definitely beat that price 😂
@Brockleejohnson not here lol, I would have to use lead acid, but I'm exploring options right now, the only 12v lithium battery that ships here cost $449+ shipping and taxes, close to $600, that's the battery alone.
@@MosaicHomestead ok so you basically just proved you could beat it yourself because after that it’s just 2 wires and the inverter 😎 easy done. They charge you to make it look pretty with those lil boxes but it’s super simple and a lot cheaper to do it yourself. You easily save $2-3 even $500 in some cases just gotta hunt for the best deal.
@Brockleejohnson My problem isn't building a battery, I've been building stuff like this since Radio shack was around, I even built my own wind and solar, my problem is getting material like you do for cheap, in the US, this is possible, here it's going to be more money 💰, and will be a lot cheaper considering the Ecoflow Ultra 3 cost over 6k 😆
Oftentimes, by the time you buy all those "extras," you're better off spending a little extra money for the portability, functionality and compactness of a regular power station. I got regulated 12V out, I got multiple USB ports, built in light, built in solar input, multiple AC outlets, over curent, over power, all kinds of built in protection all in a compact design. I don't need a cart, I can drop it in its carry case and pick it up with one hand.
You're right, it's easy to build them. It's just battery and inverter and a couple of wires. I think people are mainly lazy but they complain if they have to have to pay a lot of money.
Just make sure to size all the components well. If you go too small you’ll need bigger pieces.
Great video. I didn't realize that's all they are!
I got scared and peed alittle !
You can oversimplify anything.
Right maybe I can just add wheels and some cardboard and plexiglass and I too can have a upgraded cyber truck
It really is that simple. Glad you enjoyed it!
@@OurBlackCatCottage
Yeah that's why a battery with an inverter hooked up looks, functions and is as convenient as an engineered all in one unit.
It would seem you don't understand what simple means
I can't build something with all the connections and footprint as one though 😂
you are right you build it then you know how to fix it i have a 5000 reliable i use full time, and diy lithium batterys with a make sky blue knock off mppt charge controller works great the only thing is more batterys what i have are full by 10 am , using 0 gauge bat cables work great
There was a time where this was very cost effective, but the turnkey form factor and lower prices have made the extra money worth it for the average person.
We don't have to buy a fancy smart phone when we can buy a flip phone and attach a small monitor with a Raspberry Pi strapped to it for a fraction of the price. But most people want the iPhone because it's pre-built, all-in-one, looks cool, and just works. But I get your point. What you explained can be applied to most things.
Interesting analogy but don't know if I am 100% in agreement with you.
@@OurBlackCatCottage It was the best analogy I could think of for solar generators -- which is a pretty niche subject. Thanks for the reply and your content.
Anything you build yourself won't be as portable, compact and light however. I have a Ecoflow Delta Max 2, just the battery is almost as big and heavy. There is no way you could build something that compact and light yourself.
I get what hes saying, but just bought an Ecoflow River Pro 2 set. Once I understand it in and out, maybe Ill build a cheap version, but until then, yes indeed, the EcoFlow is pretty tight and is no brainer for emergencies and beyond.
100%
I’m adding charge to mine as I text
Excellent!!!
4 24 Volt 100ah Lithium Iron Phosphate Batteries are $1,200.00 now and a 24/1200 VICTRON PHOENIX Low Frequency Inverter handles Anything You Toss at IT 👌🇺🇸
Spend $1,600.00 and have 10,000 Watt Hours Worth o Power > NO Solar Generator can Compete with That Combo Meal 💵
I agree with you 100%!!
@@OurBlackCatCottage VICTRON Smart Solar Charge Controllers are Cheap these days. 100/30 would Feed 10K worth o Battery Bank.
I hear great things about those VICTRON controllers. I need to get one for my next setup.
Any suggestions on which inverters & battery mfgs to stay away from? Is there a sweet spot of cost / performance? Should I only buy a True Sinewave inverter? Thanks
I agree you don't have to buy one. Pat, it is much more simple and easy to buy one. You skipped an MPPT solar charger ac charger app integration. Bluetooth monitoring internet monitoring. Just the seamless aspect of these in a compact unit can make it worth it. I built one and bought one roughly the same amount of power. Less convenient for transportation, the one I built. Plus all the safety precautions taken and built in is great on these devices
Power out in our neighborhood from storm. Need one asap
Yes you may build cheaper but not as dependable 😊
compact design. sure.
more features. sure.
maybe even a better value.
But I will take my DIY build over an off the shelf power station any day. LOL
All of these things come standard on power stations in a compact design
You are wrong, it's a charge controller, a battery and a inverter, but I get what you're saying.
i mention adding a controller. LOL!
@@OurBlackCatCottage I have plans on building one just for entertainment, I'm on solar but recently bought a Ecoflow because lithium batteries don't ship here where I live, but recently I've seen some batteries on Amazon that might ship...A Ecoflow ultra 3 cost over 6k here, that's how bad things are here in the tropics.
I'm sure your wife put that together with your direction. I would need step by step instructions to do that. And can you run a fridge on it?
You can run a fridge but how long depends on the size.
yeah i see them cost like 2k when you can easy make one for not even half the cost and more capacity and powerful.. sure it wont look as good in the case like the ones they sell but you get more bang for your buck when its DIY and best part when DIY its easy to fix
Totally agree. And they are fun to make.
There is a lot of value and convenience in having a solar cotroller, battery, invertert, and multi-format power delivery system contained in a single light weight modular unit. Much easier to move and transport than separate modules and components that require interconnecting cables and other hardware considerations. There is definitely a place for these self contained power storage and distribution units in the marketplace. They are a real value with all that they have to offer.
Why would you take a power station with you when camping? That sounds ridiculous. Camping is "roughing" it. No cell phones, lights, computers, TV's etc. Just the light of the camp fire. If you're gonna do that then you might as well stay home.
I actually completely agree with you. I never have but that is how they market those power stations.
I've got a powerstation/solar panels/starlink so I can work wherever. It gives me more freedom planning extended trips so I don't have to eat all of my PTO in just driving time; I can take a day or two to get to my destination, stay there for a week (hiking in the mornings or afternoons if I'm not lazy) and then either move on to another spot or work my way back home if i want a short trip. Done with work? Turn everything off, light a fire, and crack a cold one. To each their own.
Obviously this guy is not telling the truth. He almost admits it. A portable power station Is a battery (usually a 48v LiFePo), 120v inverter, 12v and 5v power converters, and now days a wireless phone charger, a display screen, and a wifi and/or Bluetooth unit. All packaged in a nice case. The Peceon E1500 (the one I bought) weighs a manageable 40 lbs. Also Pecrons come with several cords and adaptors for under $700
Glad you liked the video!
Yup I have 3 of their E2000's and 2 of their E600's best deal in town with no hassle. This video was true 5 years ago but not anymore.
Here's an "inconvenient truth", you can do some internet legwork and get some great pricing on a "fancy" lifepo4 power station. Another inconvenient truth, they come with various and multiple plug ins and power charging options as opposed to your method of juggling batteries and inverters with the extremely limited and minimal usage options detailed above. Do what you wish but don't try to make those of us who are knowledgeable, did our homework, and use these on a regular basis out to be idiots just wasting our money.money.
So glad you enjoyed my video! Have a great day
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