Sigma 28-70mm F2.8 DG DN Contemporary Review

Поділитися
Вставка
  • Опубліковано 17 лип 2024
  • The Sigma 28-70mm F2.8 DG DN is a fast, compact zoom. How does it perform optically? How does the Sigma compare to the Tamron 28-75mm F2.8? We have the answerss
    Full resolution sample gallery from this episode: www.dpreview.com/sample-galle...
    Special thanks to Peter Jeune from The Camera Store for the Pentax K-01
    www.thecamerastore.com
    Huge thanks to Andrew Suderman for use of his Pentax lenses
    / dubious_drewski
    Music provided by BeatSuite.com
    www.beatsuite.com
    ----------------------
    DPReview.com is the world's largest digital camera review website. Welcome to our UA-cam channel! Subscribe for new feature videos, reviews, interviews and more.
    Discover the world's most in-depth digital camera reviews at www.dpreview.com
  • Наука та технологія

КОМЕНТАРІ • 301

  • @FTropper
    @FTropper 3 роки тому +228

    The overdubbing is hilarious :D Next time Jordan should overdub Chris and vice versa. ;-)

  • @geraldundone
    @geraldundone 3 роки тому +294

    Please dub all of Chris' parts from now on. I am enthralled.

    • @niccollsvideo
      @niccollsvideo 3 роки тому +18

      Doing that ADR was brutal. If we make Italian westerns we can overdub, otherwise never again.

    • @kaneclements7761
      @kaneclements7761 3 роки тому +3

      @@niccollsvideo Italian Westerns! Yay. I can just imagine you wearing a stetson, chewing on a cigar and squaring up against Tony 'The Kid' Northrup outside the saloon, to see who was fastest. I reckon Northrup would be in line for a wooden overcoat.

    • @ltlbuddha
      @ltlbuddha 3 роки тому

      @@niccollsvideo You should write two different scripts with the same information and then dub. That way it will be easier to do and still entertaining.

    • @LE672AJ
      @LE672AJ 3 роки тому +1

      Seriously. I’m imagining James Earl Jones himself coming in to lay down some Vader Mufasa vocal action.

    • @SamTaylors
      @SamTaylors 3 роки тому +4

      I want an episode of full overdub but with the voices switched. Chris’s voice coming out from Jordan’s head - Jordan’s voice coming out from under that hair. You should offer that as the reward for getting to 350k subs by the end of the year 🤪

  • @AlanHoey86
    @AlanHoey86 3 роки тому +110

    2010 era UA-cam audio quality is my jam.

  • @TheFraziers
    @TheFraziers 3 роки тому +64

    I’m genuinely shocked at how good the video quality was and how well Chris did with his voice dubbing. It was pretty convincing.

    • @petouser
      @petouser 3 роки тому +1

      why would the image quality be not good? pentax makes decent cameras with good sensors. you probably shouldn't expect the best autofocus.

    • @Energine1
      @Energine1 3 роки тому

      Weed be legal here too breh 👍😉

    • @TheFraziers
      @TheFraziers 3 роки тому +2

      @@petouser good image quality for stills doesn’t always translate to good video image quality. A camera needs good bit and data rates in addition to a quality sensor

  • @scottgmaclean
    @scottgmaclean 3 роки тому +79

    Pentax... not the camera we want, but the camera we deserve. Remember, we asked for this...

    • @wildbikerbill6530
      @wildbikerbill6530 3 роки тому

      Pentax made a variety of decisions that made the camera less than it could of been:
      1. Even working within the confines of AVCHD, where Pentax could of encoded at ~25Mbps, they top out at ~20-21 Mbps. This has obvious consequences in image sharpness/detail.
      2. The K-01 does record PCM audio, to bad the sample rate is 32 Khz. What were they thinking? Were they thinking? It would be nice to know who pulled that one out of their backside.
      3. Attaching an external HDMI screen auto-switches the camera into playback mode. So you have no way of working around the lack of an EVF with an external monitor. Be aware the rear LCD screen is low resolution and very hard to see in sunlight.
      Please note all three of the above issues have to do with Firmware/Software decisions, not hardware.

  • @johanleoste6308
    @johanleoste6308 3 роки тому +1

    The pentax quality combined with the audio really reminded me of your old videos from the Camera Store days. Keep up the good work!

  • @colhutchins
    @colhutchins 3 роки тому +34

    Probably the best footage you've ever shot. What camera is that Jordan? :-)

    • @killian2826
      @killian2826 3 роки тому

      Pretty sure that it is the Sony A7R III as we can see the name at 8:20 in the top corner right

    • @TimothyGordon
      @TimothyGordon 3 роки тому

      @@killian2826 did you feel that go over your head??

  • @Fedor_Dokuchaev_Color
    @Fedor_Dokuchaev_Color 3 роки тому +2

    Wow! Pentax footage looks great. Very stylish. Soft, but with a distinct feel. Good job, Jordan!

  • @nastycooperation9901
    @nastycooperation9901 3 роки тому +34

    Switch to the Pentax! The Audio is really oldschol youtube

  • @richards1243
    @richards1243 3 роки тому

    You two are by far my fav on UA-cam for camera related videos. How you don't have 3M+ subs is beyond me. Thank you for doing what you do

  • @TL-vt8uk
    @TL-vt8uk 3 роки тому +11

    The K-01 did amazing!! This may need to be DP Review TV’s video camera of choice from now on! As payback, it may be time for a vintage 35mm focal length shootout for Chris!!

  • @NicJohnson
    @NicJohnson 3 роки тому +58

    I'm gonna say it. The Pentax wasn't that bad. Hats off to Jordan.

    • @kaimelis
      @kaimelis 3 роки тому +5

      I'm gonna say it as well. Pentax sucked more than a black hole inside a black hole.

    • @PiDsPagePrototypes
      @PiDsPagePrototypes 3 роки тому

      @Nic - It can do better then this.

    • @user-jt6xh2ln9z
      @user-jt6xh2ln9z 3 роки тому +1

      Yeah, nah, it sucked.

    • @petouser
      @petouser 3 роки тому +2

      @@kaimelis what makes it so bad?

    • @danieldougan269
      @danieldougan269 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@petouser Jordan explained the problems with this camera in a subsequent episode. In summary:
      - The image is soft yet oversharpened
      - The dynamic range is extremely small, so it takes a lot more work with lighting to shoot it outdoors
      - The IBIS is useless
      - You can only use lenses wide open
      - No headphone jack or audio level display (which reared its ugly head here with the audio clipping)
      Pros like Jordan can compensate for many of those shortcomings, particularly by artificially lighting a scene, but it's definitely a pain in the ass.

  • @justincooper7015
    @justincooper7015 3 роки тому

    That was the best. The reviews are always great, but the dubbing was so good.

  • @mics1377
    @mics1377 3 роки тому +21

    I'm so glad you guys got to 300K just so Jordan suffers by filming with a Pentax

  • @thomasneedham3342
    @thomasneedham3342 3 роки тому +3

    Lockdown here in the uk....I have been so looking forward to the K-01 episodes!

  • @mytravellinfo
    @mytravellinfo 3 роки тому +35

    I can not imagine how many hours Jordan has to spend to get this production

    • @thomastewksbury39
      @thomastewksbury39 3 роки тому +1

      I’m rly sorry, but it’s many* not much

    • @mytravellinfo
      @mytravellinfo 3 роки тому

      @@thomastewksbury39 corrected

    • @-_--le3zk
      @-_--le3zk 3 роки тому

      @@thomastewksbury39 a canadian detected 😏

  • @mrnessss
    @mrnessss 2 роки тому

    You guys are putting out INCREDIBLE content! 🙏🙏🙏

  • @JennyDarukat
    @JennyDarukat 3 роки тому +6

    This is the kind of lens that might yet tempt me back into full frame.. I don't need absolute razor sharpness in a zoom and these results still look well-acceptable for my personal use, so I'd gladly pick this over a 24-70 2.8's extra bulk even at a bit of a compromise.

  • @shlawchablaas
    @shlawchablaas 3 роки тому +1

    The lens looks fine and all, but what this episode really convinced me about is that getting a Pentax would be fun. I’m sure a lot of people besides myself would be VERY interested in a little behind-the-scenes discussing which lenses you are using on the K-01, as well as what post production is like compared to the S1H. For me, the most noticeable improvement in video tech in the past decade has had to do with how much more easily my computer can handle video footage-it used to struggle adding effects to a 5D II in 1080p, now a similar level MacBook can zoom through 4k with no stutters or setbacks. I imagine that for that reason, post production on the Pentax must be so much better than it used to feel circa 2012.

  • @yoga7788
    @yoga7788 3 роки тому

    Hi Chris, just watched this review and your concluding comments where taken on board. The two lenses reviewed
    were pretty good but I decided to go with Sigma 24-70 2.8.
    thanks excellent review.

  • @BigJohnnyMoe
    @BigJohnnyMoe 3 роки тому +5

    Yep. The Pentax image quality looks fine to my eye, at least for YT. Please do this with a Pentax Q when you guys reach 400,000!

  • @parshua
    @parshua 3 роки тому +4

    Interesting! As long as the audio was bad, I was noticing the Pentax's low quality video. 10 seconds after the sound was fixed, I completely forgot about it.

  • @jackslayer9418
    @jackslayer9418 3 роки тому +1

    Literally just watched the live stream from sigma haha. Nice work guys

  • @jan-hendrikbussmann4644
    @jan-hendrikbussmann4644 3 роки тому +1

    I think we need much more challenging shots for the Pentax. That still looks way too good. Come on, give us something to work with here for all the subscriptions! Also, nice work on the intro. How much work went into that mock-up of the K-01 on the S1H?

  • @PaulWon
    @PaulWon 3 роки тому +1

    keep shooting with the Pentax K-01 i like the vibe

  • @PKWModelwerx
    @PKWModelwerx 3 роки тому

    Hilarious plus an excellent and thorough review. Thanks!

  • @EscapeSquad
    @EscapeSquad 3 роки тому

    Love this youtube duo!!!!amazing videos very funny and awesome to watch!
    who the hell is gona buy this lens instead of the sigma 24-70 or the tamron ?

  • @markaustin614
    @markaustin614 3 роки тому

    This is the best...excellent effort!!!

  • @travissmarion
    @travissmarion 3 роки тому +5

    Honestly I just want a side by side comparison with the Tamron 28-75 F2.8.
    P.S. I love the improvisation for the audio issues.

  • @connor56347
    @connor56347 3 роки тому +12

    The potato audio and video quality is perfect. I feel like I'm in the early 2000s all over againi

  • @TomaszBrodecki
    @TomaszBrodecki 3 роки тому +5

    The Pentax quality is actually better than I remember!
    Should we expect another attempt at a BMD Ursa 12K video?

  • @CallMeChato
    @CallMeChato 3 роки тому

    Reviewing this on my Apple Watch, the video looked great. At 1080p you can tell it's not very sharp, mushy details and lots of digital sharpening on the edges, was that the camera or post? Colours looked good enough. I'll bet most people would be focusing on the story and the quality from the reviewed product and not the output from the Pentax. From that perspective it worked just fine.

  • @HendrikMorkel
    @HendrikMorkel 3 роки тому

    This Iron Chef dub is something which every future Episode should have. It's an instant Classic, this Video!

  • @techlessYT
    @techlessYT 3 роки тому

    Another great demonstration that you can get away with a bad picture quality but not with bad audio...

  • @jonstewart9315
    @jonstewart9315 3 роки тому

    The video of the pentax is far better than I thought it would be.

  • @pattespattes
    @pattespattes 2 роки тому

    the K01 had the K5 sensor and I have used this camera for years with very good feeling!!

  • @davidaltizer
    @davidaltizer 3 роки тому

    The overdub is making me LOL so hard!! So incredible hahahahaha

  • @Indrakusuma_a
    @Indrakusuma_a 3 роки тому +1

    We were only expecting visual change, but they give us bonus on audio change as well xD
    Love how Jordan uses Jurassic Park font styling to let you know it's 'ancient' ;D

  • @stefpix
    @stefpix 3 роки тому +4

    So is the Tamron better overall apart the busier bokeh?

  • @manilamartin1001
    @manilamartin1001 Рік тому +1

    ever since the pana s5ii I am getting interested in the L-mount with sigma lenses.

  • @kollege305
    @kollege305 3 роки тому +3

    Filmed with Pentax, video watchable in 4k. Gotta love it. 😁

  • @embergabor
    @embergabor 3 роки тому

    Damn good job on the dub!

  • @heaps.
    @heaps. 3 роки тому

    That dub work was solid 👌

  • @jodokcello
    @jodokcello 3 роки тому

    will there be a RF version?

  • @triplestrafe
    @triplestrafe 3 роки тому +1

    the dubbing was actually quite refreshing :)

  • @tsprouse1322
    @tsprouse1322 3 роки тому

    I have to ask was that 28mm and 70mm edge curve test done with internal camera correction on? Has Sony or adobe put out the camera corrections and the Lightroom corrections yet?

  • @martinhinge1462
    @martinhinge1462 3 роки тому

    You did a really nice job with what you had, Jordan. Yes, it's soft, but you make the best of it. 😁

  • @nobooya
    @nobooya 3 роки тому +4

    Make a Pentax review after you're finished filming with it. I wonder what are your thoughts :D

  • @siyu4869
    @siyu4869 3 роки тому

    K01's image quality is still great, and Chris and Jordan's skill on audio dubbing is amazing. Can you please do a small interview and let Jordan talk about his experience with K01 after these episodes? :p

  • @bobrose7900
    @bobrose7900 3 роки тому

    Great video and content. That camera seems a bargain. One for the camera bag. The 28-70 was ok but completely overshadowed by the K01, result!

  • @zfisher
    @zfisher 3 роки тому +2

    Video quality on that Pentax not as horrible as I had expected. The overdubbing just made me realize how fast Chris talks

  • @brianaddison2828
    @brianaddison2828 3 роки тому

    Great intro lol and review!

  • @chiquita683
    @chiquita683 3 роки тому +7

    Since the audio was messed up just means they need to do another review with the Pentax 😂

  • @Goodman-4525
    @Goodman-4525 3 роки тому

    Excellent job people!

  • @glsracer
    @glsracer 3 роки тому +2

    The Pentax video looks fine, I'd say you found Jordan's new camera.

  • @lauraoneal
    @lauraoneal 3 роки тому

    Is the distortion easily correctable in video editing programs such as Premiere Pro?

  • @piimaonu
    @piimaonu 3 роки тому

    To eliminate sound clipping, reduce in camera menu Recording Sound Level below middle point (two bars are OK).

  • @finnillson4808
    @finnillson4808 3 роки тому +1

    The dub over brought back memories of late nights watching Japanese obstacle course shows on comedy center AP. I forget the name of the show. Hilarious.

    • @Brentbrussell
      @Brentbrussell 3 роки тому

      MXC! Get it onnn!!

    • @finnillson4808
      @finnillson4808 3 роки тому +1

      @@Brentbrussellthat was it! I think the funny episode for me was the Halloween special and the shark guy in the “Lilly pad” course.

  • @imabigsandwich1292
    @imabigsandwich1292 3 роки тому

    YESSSSSS IT IS HERE

  • @idkidkikik
    @idkidkikik 3 роки тому

    Oh My God, this is so 1980s TV news hahaha, good job in taking up the challenge man... :)

  • @takanashisouta3306
    @takanashisouta3306 3 роки тому

    the video quality (including audio) really brings me back to the old days, not in a bad way though.

  • @MartinCHorowitz
    @MartinCHorowitz 3 роки тому

    Too bad you couldn't test the burst rate on A1,
    was the sample images also filmed om thePpentax or directly added to final video.?

  • @slimphotog
    @slimphotog 3 роки тому +1

    I have the panda and bumblebee K-01 bodies. I got my second K-01 for $180. I love them.

  • @leejean1985
    @leejean1985 3 роки тому +9

    Fukui-san! Can you tell us what the Iron Chef has going into that pot?

  • @logtothebase2
    @logtothebase2 3 роки тому

    Struggling to find prices for this, I think it has to be fairly inexpensive in order not to be tempted up to the 24 70 Art

  • @photographerjonathan
    @photographerjonathan 3 роки тому

    I am curious how the Sigma e mount 24/70 f2.8 Art compares with the new Nikon 24/70 f2.8 z lens.

  • @JohnDennery
    @JohnDennery 3 роки тому +1

    I'm all about smaller and lighter lenses but so far it really seems like this is Sigma's weakest performing lens. I was hoping this would be the perfect lens for my A7c but I'm not convinced that this has the Sigma IQ I've come to expect!
    Great job with the dubbing btw - spot on!

  • @intheblues
    @intheblues 3 роки тому +45

    🤣😂You guys are the best!

  • @IvanRiveraStagea
    @IvanRiveraStagea 3 роки тому

    As a former Pentax shooter, this gets a huge thumbs up. 😁

  • @travissmarion
    @travissmarion Рік тому

    Yep. Exactly my thought process as well. I'm going with the Sigma 24-70 instead. Better performance.

  • @twobird7529
    @twobird7529 2 роки тому

    Correct me if I'm wrong but the close focus distance on the contemporary version is significantly closer than the Art version, right? I believe the contemporary approaches Macro range

    • @bijosn
      @bijosn 10 місяців тому

      Yes

  • @iyn1911
    @iyn1911 3 роки тому

    Great dubbing!

  • @sinanceylan
    @sinanceylan 3 роки тому

    Love the intro pun, lol.

  • @KevinSaruwatari
    @KevinSaruwatari 3 роки тому

    I think I want to buy that Pentax from you when you are done with it.

  • @lyndonlabayan
    @lyndonlabayan 3 роки тому +1

    Omg dub everything from now on.

  • @HappyHubris
    @HappyHubris 3 роки тому +2

    Am I the only one who didn't notice much of a difference in the video?
    This review would be far, far better with some comparison shots to the Tamron and larger Sigma as well as laying out the trade-offs: weather sealing, weight, magnification, etc. Honestly this was very light on information for someone to make a decision on.

  • @sofronio.
    @sofronio. 3 роки тому

    The opening joke kills me! LOL

  • @vaneickelen
    @vaneickelen 3 роки тому

    That overdubbing killed me! 🤣🤣🤣

  • @gylfimagnusson6170
    @gylfimagnusson6170 3 роки тому

    The video actually looks pretty decent! Frankly hard to see any difference between it and previous videos. Full HD is plenty for UA-cam videos. No doubt it though took more of an effort than with a modern camera. The audio was of course terrible - but it should not have been. I have shot video using either the internal microphone on a K-01 or an external one and the outcome was reasonable, far better than what they got. So there must be something wrong with this particular camera or some weird compatibility issue with the camera and the microphone.

  • @RiceAndRun
    @RiceAndRun 3 роки тому

    if the dub's aren't harder to implement please do it in every video. I love the 90's hong kong movie feel of the video !

  • @thatguyoverthere54
    @thatguyoverthere54 3 роки тому

    What happened to the ursa 12k video?

  • @mediabymarcopolo5890
    @mediabymarcopolo5890 3 роки тому +3

    I agree that maybe that extra 200 is worth it for the 24-70 but I have been seeing a lot of stuff online about excessive dust getting in that 24-70 lens which leads me to stay away from it. I've seen it on tons of reviews on multiple websites and it is also on reddit as well with multiple users showing evidence of this being an issue with the lens.

    • @luke.crafts
      @luke.crafts 9 місяців тому

      This is basically where I am at. I would be content to deal with the extra weight in exchange for the extra features and improved sharpness but I'm not dropping €1100 on a lens I need to strip and self-service to remove dust, I don't want to deal with that. Also, while the 28-70mm is not weather sealed, the 24-70 sure as fuck isn't weather sealed very well if lots of dust is getting in after a matter of days in the case of some people I've seen.

  • @PiDsPagePrototypes
    @PiDsPagePrototypes 3 роки тому

    @Jordan - K-01 audio is only 32kHz, and yeah, you're over driving it.
    Did you shoot on the DA40XS?
    Read my comment on the previous video for tips on the colour profile settings that work best with the K-01.
    Also, where in heck did you blokes find the Black on White body? That thing's rarer then the Smurf!

  • @moeblisss12
    @moeblisss12 3 роки тому +1

    Making me laugh .5 seconds into the review is always a win

  • @adamlucienroy
    @adamlucienroy 3 роки тому

    Totally fine lens, and the review is basically what I expected, right down to the Pentax bashing. Oh, well. This was never for me anyway, but it's a great option for some people.

  • @louistangmusic
    @louistangmusic 3 роки тому

    The video and audio quality of this channel is slowly going back to the StoneAge and I kinda like it lol

  • @sumitshanker2829
    @sumitshanker2829 8 місяців тому

    Why does it click images of file size 10mb - 15mb in JPEG. Although my camera is 42mp ?

  • @NVIK5
    @NVIK5 3 роки тому

    Guys, is a Nikon Z 50 1.2 review in preparation?

  • @michalguzikfilms
    @michalguzikfilms 3 роки тому

    The thing that not only is the camera so crappy but there were also immediate problems with audio was waaay too funny to watch. Great vid!

  • @donaldjones2106
    @donaldjones2106 Рік тому

    Has Sigma made the 28-70 f 2.8 for the Nikon z?

  • @LE672AJ
    @LE672AJ 3 роки тому

    Saw the Paper Camera - I laughed hard.
    Then the Jurassic Font - laughed harder and spilled my coffee ☕️😂

  • @slicktoroid
    @slicktoroid 3 роки тому

    Better image quality than the Blackmagic they shot with a few videos back!!

  • @Mockingmob
    @Mockingmob 3 роки тому

    I'm surprised to find the 2160p option on this video...

  • @BobbyStef
    @BobbyStef 3 роки тому

    Thanks for the review! I like the compactness of this sigma but the slight quality distortion might push me to get the ART variation instead.
    How does it do with video?

  • @63MacGuy
    @63MacGuy 3 роки тому +1

    Sigma or Tamron for gimbal? A73

  • @martinsand5411
    @martinsand5411 3 роки тому +1

    The K-01 was a good camera with great image quality and a design that wasn’t for everyone. I happen to like it. Video quality was alright for 2012, which, as we can see here, is still fine for youtube. No, I can’t reach the green button either.

  • @jvtechtea
    @jvtechtea 3 роки тому +1

    and i JUST got the Sigma 35mm f/2 for my S5 ugh. the L-Mount alliance is heating up!

  • @gabrielmachadobsb
    @gabrielmachadobsb 3 роки тому

    Other than the glitch at 1:02 the Pentax looked quite decent!

  • @alfatemycats
    @alfatemycats 3 роки тому +1

    How is it the Pentax footage somehow looks over sharpened, and mushy at the same time?

    • @PiDsPagePrototypes
      @PiDsPagePrototypes 3 роки тому

      Means Jordan used the wrong colour profile, and then copped one of the issues Pentaxians know about with the CoDec's bit rate.

  • @rrosomasa
    @rrosomasa 3 роки тому

    Hahaaaa love the “cover” on the Panasonic!!