The Complicated History of the Bible: The Biblical Canon - Part 1
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- Опубліковано 3 лип 2024
- How many books are in your Bible? Do you know why? The history of the biblical canon is a long and very interesting story -- at least I think so. So grab a cup of Joe and enjoy.
Books:
Reading the Bible with Giants: How 2000 Years of Biblical Interpretation Can Shed New Light on Old Texts. Second Edition, Cascade Books, 2015
Print or eBook versions
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Reading the Bible with Giants on Apple Books
An interactive versions with images, video and other features not available in print versions - highly recommended if you have an iPad or Mac. Free sample chapter also.
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The philosophical basis behind reading the Bible in conversation with our tradition:
Reception Theory and Biblical Hermeneutics, Pickwick Publications, 2009.
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Friends:
Edge of Faith: Art & Culture Through a Christian Lens magazine
edgeoffaithmagazine.com
Fuller Theological Seminary
www.fuller.edu
Software I use in the videos ~ Accordance Bible Software:
www.accordancebible.com
Awesome!
Great!
I have missed your talks! Glad you are ok.
Thanks. I missed posting and creating these videos.
I have missed the Septuagint. This is clearly lacking the historical knowledge of the role the Greek text played in second temple Judaism.
For this reason, this video is incomplete and unfit for teaching.
@uncreatedlogos that’s for pointing this out. But I was more focused on the Christian canon not so much on formation of the NT.
I would just say that Eastern Orthodox do consider Apocalypse (Revelations) canon although it is not read in Liturgy. In some monastic orders they read the New Testament in its entirety by reading 2 epistles and 1 gospel chapter a day but when they get to the last 7 chapters of revelation its one chapter a day. The Orthodox churches dont read Revelations in Liturgy because of its obscurity and ability to cause fear, despair, and confusion among the spiritually immature
I think I may have omitted that point and thanks for your clarification.
No the word penumbra did not slip by me lol. My father is a retired English teacher. I was raised by a grammar Nazi so my years perked up immediately when I heard penumbra. Writing, vocabulary and spelling are the few things I'm good at scholastically. BUT I have never heard that word before. I'm going to have to work it into my conversations at Thanksgiving 😁. Thanks!
Amazing lesson. I wish this was taught in church due to its importance of where we get our Bible from. Thank you for making this very easy to understand. I can't wait for the final instalment next week.
Thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge and experience with us. God bless you
Your explanation of Jerome's Vulgate helps me better understand why we have readings from the Apocrypha in the Episcopal BCP Daily Lectionary but don't regard the Apocrypha as canon.
Thanks. Glad this helped clear that up.
Hippo Carthage and Rome always had 72 books. Although not dogmatically defined till Trent
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The Hippo Carthage and Rome canon later became became the Gelasian list. Which was derived from the damasine list
The word apocrypha was never used by Jerome for the deuterocanon. It was first used by Luther.
Augustine was faithful to the canon given by Rome :
, I should not believe the gospel except as moved by the authority of the Catholic Church…Augustine of Hippo against the fundamental Epistle of Manichius
“These are held as canonical, not by the Jews, but by the Church, on account of the extreme and wonderful sufferings of certain martyrs..Augustine of Hippo, City of God
Roma locuta; causa finita est!!..Augustine of Hippo. Augustine of Hippo sermon 131:10
Jerome had his personal opinion but eventually accepted the judgement of the church on the deuterocanon
“What sin have I committed if I followed the judgment of the churches? But he who brings charges against me for relating the objections that the Hebrews are wont to raise against the Story of Susanna, the Song of the Three Children, and the story of Bel and the Dragon, which are not found in the Hebrew volume, proves that he is just a foolish sycophant. For I was not relating my own personal views, but rather the remarks that they [the Jews] are wont to make against us. (Jerome Against Rufinus, 11:33 [AD 402]).
A good book is : The Biblical Canon: Its Origin, Transmission, and Authority
by Lee Martin McDonald
He is a baptist. But his work had minimal bias to and only represents the historical data
Interestingly Athanasius excludes Esther from the Old Testament as well.
Unfortunately for Protestants the index of the canon is either right or wrong. Even if one book is added or subtracted then you can’t really be sure if you have the whole Bible
As RC sproul put it “ a fallible list of infallible books”😬😬
Historically the first time the shorter Protestant OT was ever even used by a Christian body east or west was at the reformation.
Luther separated it in 1534
Good thing he failed to remove James, Jude and revelation 😂..
Geneva bible removed it in 1599
KJV removed it in 1885 on decision of the British foreign bible society.
Could you please send me your link to the life of Mary?
Marcion, the earliest compiler , writer, redactor of the first ever gospel and the ten letters of paul could technically be called the first christian who breaks away from judaism and the father of the new testament…
The early church’s attempt to Undermine and erase his role into the making of the canon is the reason why we dont have a real verifiafiable facts and datas about first century christianity
Thanks for your comment. Actually we know a lot about Marcion and the significant role he played in the formation of the Canon. Marcion is actually 2nd century and we have a lot of authors, church leaders, and interpreters that come prior to him. One of the biggest issues that the early church criticized Marcion for was his (what we would call now) his anti-semetic views and how this then shaped his editing and compiling of texts. But I do agree with you that he is a very important person and that is why I discussed his role in the video.
maricon didn't edit the text nor was he anti semitic. He never once said anything negative about the race of jews. he simply disagreed with the theology of yahweh that didn't make sense with what Christ taught. These inconsistencies are not prejudice of a race when he is using logic. Christ said no one has seen the Father but the son, yet moses saw God on the mountain. Even Ignatious, an early church father, admitted there is no correlation to yahweh to Christ. This statement matches anyone from the first century that wasn't born a jew. A difference in a opinion on theology isn't a hate crime. huge difference.