Mabel Greer's Toyshop - Beyond and Before (Pre-Yes) 1968
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- Опубліковано 16 лис 2010
- Here is a very significant piece of music history from a small Psych comp of unreleased tapes. This is one of a handful of recordings from a BBC session from Mabel Greer's Toyshop who less than a year later evolved into Yes. Consisting of Yes Members (Ex-Syn) Peter Banks and Chris Squire and Ex Warriors singer Jon Anderson. This is a top notch Psych track right in the same league as The Syn or Tomorrow (Steve Howe would joing this band when they morphed into Yes).
RIP Chris Squire - it's fitting that the first notes anyone heard from Yes was your bass guitar (played high and loud) on this song!
Peter Banks and Chris Squire clearly defined the early YES sound. RIP both of them.
Cool to hear Squire pre-YES. The interesting thing about YES is that Chris's bass is the very first sound we hear on the first YES album from this very song. Remarkable! I knew he was in a band called Mabel Greer's Toyshop but never heard them until now.
please note that Steve Howe only joined Yes after the first 2 albums, not "when MGT morphed into Yes" as written in the description. Great to hear this early version. Thanks a lot!
Even before YES, Chris played lead bass! Fabulous!! Thanks for the share!
He got the idea from McCartney. Paperback Writer swung it for him. That 'direct injection' sound evens out the dynamic range a treat. By this point the bass was no longer just an accompanying instrument anyway. Fresh Cream was released 2 years before this
I've been a piano/keyboard player since I was only 6 yrs old, and as much as I've loved T.Kaye and Rick Wakeman's awesome musicianship, it was Chris Squire that ultimately made me a Yes fan big time. And thx for posting this; never heard this prototype song until a few days ago! A.I.K.
Can hear those Chris bass lines already. Signature YES Coming to your Concert Hall soon. And we all can't wait!! PS: My 1st was TALES in '74 due to YES Not Touring NY/NJ/Philly in '73. Miss Ya Chris!!
Even early on you can hear characteristic Squire bass
Exactly. And THAT'S what makes it Yes. Because going to Jon Anderson's career before Yes will not yield you The Revealing Science of God. Moreso The Revealing Area of Where We Get Our Hair Cut. It took years before Anderson found a way to rearrange your liver. Chris was Chris coming out of the gate.
As you can on The Syn recordings that pre date this. I saw them supporting Soft Machine and Blossom Toes at a gig in Parliament Hill Fields one summer afternoon. Next thing I knew, they'd morphed into Yes. I went to The Marquee one Thursday night to see The Nice and Yes were the support. They were tight as fuck and out to impress. No problem. Particularly memorable was a great cover of Eleanor Rigby they slipped in, just before they steamed into Somethin's Comin' On from West Side Story. I remember Anderson ribbing Keith Emerson (sitting on the side of the stage watching) about America. He said Yes were planning on doing it, but 'someone' got their first! After that night I only missed one of their Marquee gigs. Mind you, between the end of '67 and the end of '69 I spent more time there than I did at home!
@@andythomas706 Awesome to hear from someone who was actually there at the Marquee Club to catch YES at the very beginning. They were blowing people away right from the beginning, eh?
My first exposure was hearing Starship Trooper on a University radio station in Tampa, Florida in...1971? Had to go see them in concert where I first heard Close To The Edge (so I guess I never did see Bruford even though I've seen them 7X over the years...)
And I never did understand Bruford leaving YES. He never did accomplish anything thereafter with KC or anyone else that exceeded what he did with Chris as a one-of-a-kind innovative "rhythm section." Oh well...
Pete Banks, gone yet not forgotten.
Chris Squire...Groovy as always.
The bass guitar tone is unmistakenly Chris Squire's!
Chris Squires bass,really sticks out front on this track! Excellent!
this is awesome, being a yes fan
I like the Yes version on the first LP slightly better, but this sounds great!
This one was a one shot radio show recording in December 1967 - the Yes version was in a recording studio about a year later :)
Many thanks to PsychedelicGuy for posting this ... I have read of it's existence but never heard it ... amazing ! ... thanks again
great pre Yes group
Very cool... thanks for posting.
Hidden Gold.
This is the best yes concert ever and I've heard quite a bit of yes from dad.
Both the guitar and that bass stand out
Two great solos at the end the first from Peter Banks and second Clive Bayley with fuxbox...
In my Yes playlist with their remake. Jon is singing here? Thanks for the upload!
Nope, Bailey and Hagger. I'm surprised Chris didn't offer any harmony vocals (maybe he did and it's just hard to pick out.)
@@yes_head Chris sang great harmonies but this was a one off radio show recoding, no editing :(
Clive Bayley singer-songwriter
Mabel Greer's Toyshop now has a Facebook page
Yep., Hagger, and Clive Bayley singing. This song is about a wood that Clive visited as a kid, and took his own kids to. The bridge was written in half an hour, while the producer went to lunch. Clive Bayley song all the way--I've played it with him at the Christmas table. Yes took it, and Clive never claimed royalties.
I don't think Tony Katye is on this recording - ??
@@guymowbray3713 No, Tony didn't join the story for another few months.
Wow!
Happy this is still blowing minds all these years later. Thanks for listening!
Steve Howe did not join YES until after the first two albums, not when Mabel Greer's Toyshop first morphed into YES. Peter Banks is the original YES guitarist and he was in the band on the first album (YES) and the second album (TIME AND A WORD).
The bass line is more distinct than the Yes version. Chingadingading..Chingadingading...
Because it's so strictly tied to the linear march beat from the drums. Bill's drum part on Yes' version swung and had a lot more syncopation, which gave Chris more latitude to be creative with the bass part.
A lead guitarist in bass form. Powerful, forceful, epic.
Wow.
Thanks for sharing.
George Vreeland Hill
holy shit !
This version was recorded about a year before the Yes version. Singer is Clive Bayley. Probably the best parts are the two guitar solos at the end Peter Banks first and then Clive takes over with fuzzbox.
Chris’ bass. LOL. Just incredible. Yes inherited this sound, which is a bit both psychedelic and mod. Yes added more harmonies to it on the first album, giving it less of an Indian sound and more like CSN vocals.
@MapsOfJupiter Ya I will post the other 2 songs I was able to record from the vinyl.
Anyone got the BBC Nightride 'Tomorrow' session?
Chris Squire always had that polite totally not assertive in the background bass playing style......😵
Many English friends around ! Allex is a Professor !
❤Çhris ❤
@MapsOfJupiter Ah ya I have all four of the Psychedelia comps...doesnt get mych better.
In the description, was Peter Banks' Syn the same one that recorded "Grounded"?
Yes!
@HarvestmanMan Yes
I don't think any YES song ever got this psychedelic.
Top notch psych track is what it is. I always thought of YES as being a prog rock band.
Yes is literally the embodiment of every decade after the 60s you can hear some yes songs in 87 that sound nothing like it did in 72
This song was recorded by Yes on their first album. It's pretty similar to this version.
Check out The Syn from 1967 if you want to hear how Chris and Peter sounded on some REALLY psych material.
:D
Can barely hear the drums?
Suena ya a Yes.Brother J Anderson after sings spanish group Los Bravos.Squire,Banks,Howe are great musics british.No se explicarme mas en ingles
@MapsOfJupiter Who was the drummer ?
Bob Hagger, yo!
Is the guy behind Banks Tony O Reilly the orginal drummer of yes before Bruford showed up 🤔
Bruford was there for a short while before O'reilly, -www.imdb.com/name/nm3058634/bio
Robert Hagger was the original drummer replaced by Bill Bruford in June 1968. Bill left for a very brief time to start Uni in Oct but returned very quickly...
Don;t get me wrong-I:m not saying its bad, but it was much better by Yes. The only thing I like here is the bass part. The vocals are kind of tepid and perfunctory.
Yeah, sounds like a demo. Not likely to win over the BBC if that was the intent.
This version was live recording at the BBC in December 1967. The version was recorded in a studio about a year later.
Really?
Good thing he eventually met up with a guy who could sing
Is that woman singing Jo(a)n Anderson doesn't sound like her. Prefer the Syn.
Not a woman and not Jon Anderson. This is before Jon joined.
@@brianjlevine Singer is Clive Bayley. Two great guitar solos at the end, first by Peter Banks, second by Clive Bayley.
Completely different band.