Accsoon SeeMo Review: Turn your iPhone into a video monitor/recorder!
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- Опубліковано 1 сер 2024
- The Accsoon SeeMo allows you to take the HDMI signal from your camera, and allows an iPhone or iPad to be used as a video monitor, recorder and even streambox! The SeeMo is the first tool of its kind, and quite affordable, so the big question is: does it work? Jordan Drake has been using one for a few weeks and has some impressions.
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0:00 - Intro
1:36 - Monitoring
3:21 - Recording
4:10 - Streaming
4:31 - Annoyances
6:03 - Should you buy it?
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Perfect way to give a second life to an older iPhone or iPad.
When I first saw this product get announced I assumed it wouldn't work very well. I'm very happy to see you guys make a video about it to highlight how it works. I think the product does a lot of what I'm personally looking for on my 2nd camera or when I want to build out something more light weight. I'm still rocking internally recorded H.265 of a pair of Canon R3 bodies and it works well for me. All the monitors in this $150-250 price range feel pretty plasticky and poorly built with a monitor that's typically inaccurate. So I may end up checking this product out...I like the idea of an iPad Mini being a monitor...hmmmmm. LOL
Right on time when I just made a set up to use my android as my monitor. Same concept, MicroHDMI to HDMI to Capture Card to OTG. This looks a lot cleaner, but I only paid at most $20 for all the cables and the Capture Card.
I'm looking forward to picking up the Android version of this (the M1), but there's something I find funny about the fact that I only found out about the M1 due to all the major review outlets covering the SeeMo because it's iOS. I tried looking for reviews of the M1, and the only one I could find on one of the major (by my estimation) review channels was from Gordon Liang.... almost 8 months ago.
I'd love to see more of y'all cover the Android version since their software works even with older Android phones (which apps like, for example, Monitor+ do not). I, for example, still have two Pixel XLs (the original) that I intend now to use as small studio monitors for making UA-cam videos, and those phones can be picked up for about $50 now, if someone wants a dedicated setup without using their primary phone.
The same is true, obviously, of older iPhones, but I'm not sure how compatibility works in that scenario, and older iPhones tend to be more expensive than older Android phones.
I appreciate the innovation
I love it. What a cool idea.
Great video!!! When we see Jordans drumming whit his band?
Issue with charging iPhone same time is iPhone limitation. IPhone can be charged only by host device while to use a device on iPhone it has to be client device. They have phone charging for Android version.
You can use the MagSafe charger to provide power while your phone is connected to SeeMo. We love to charge iPhone through the lightning connection, but it’s not possible at this moment due to Apple imposed restrictions. You CAN charge your iPad while using the SeeMo. You can also connect a Qi wireless charger to SeeMo's 5V output.
Very impressive considering there USB2.0 connection of that lightning port
I believe the speed it is capable of has increased beyond that.
For those who don't see a use case: Yesterday I shot a set of videos with my mirrorless camera setup to take home and edit with Premiere Pro. Then someone said: “Hey, can you just give me a quick clip I can send to [important person] so we can see if he likes the lighting?” So I had to haul out the laptop… would have been so much easier with something like this.
You can easily plug SD card to your phone and cut any clip there.
@@Rambalac Still not as convenient as airdropping it (provided your client has an iPhone too)
The exact reason I bought this. Also would love making reels on instagram with the footage recorded. Instead of airdropping to phone.
Exactly what I need
One of these with a high speed sd slot and 4k 10 bit recording would be great with an x-s10
Gotta try this with an ipad!
This would be good with an iPad mini
I've been able to use my phone as a monitor and shutter release since the days of my Olympus EM5 Mark ii and it didn't cost anything
Love the shirt!
Have you ever attempted to utilize the app for capturing an incoming video stream directly from a camcorder, leveraging the camera's firewire out port along with a firewire to lightning adapter? Thanks.
Exactly the kind of device where its introduction could mean that whoever (Atomos, Blackmagic) decides to make their own version could have a hugely successful product on their hands
Great Video. BTW I think there's a typo in the title 😀
Have been using the same concept long ago with Android phone, HDMI to usb-c capture cable plus free "usb camera" App, only cost $20.
Can you actually load your own LUTS? I downloaded the app but it seems you only have a set of LUTs to choose from. Does anyone know?
Is the 1080p 8bit recording limited by the lightning port? Really hoping that if iPhone upgrades to usb c this could be improved, maybe this could be achieved on an M1 ipad…
NOTHING can be done about HDMI lag. That’s why I think camera mfrs are missing an opportunity to add value to their cameras by bypassing HDMI altogether and creating apps that will let you tie into the camera’s low-level functions via their USB ports similar to the way that tethering is already accomplished. Not only would you have super low latency image feeds, but you could also incorporate camera controls onto the phone’s or tablet’s touch screen.
This 👆
Glad that I wa wearing my Canon t-shirt while I watch this video.
Yay! Back together again 😃
Was just about to buy one but then I remembered that Black Friday is just around the corner and that it would be beneficial to be patient since I really do need a recorder
I don't really care about this product (or most of the stuff you cover), but all the shenanigans makes it worth watching.
I want to record audio too. How do I mute the iPhone mic for this app? I’m getting feedback.
Hello nice video. for audio can it be recorded with seemo somehow or is it just for video? I work on the street and so I can't bring direction or something like that? Thanks for the help.Alex from Italy
FIRST??? Hollyland Mars X came out 30 months ago! And it works with any smart device through the app. And it is wireless with the same latency and more features.
Of course, this device costs more than my Andycine monitor, which receives a 4K signal and looks damn good doing it. Still, I applaud them for trying something, and the convenience does have value. Also, why did I never hear about the Android version before this?
I agree. If this was cheaper than those affordable monitors, it might make more sense. I guess, since you have the record functionality, but I am not sure if it makes a lot of sense. At least for me.
It looks like the Android version is considerably less expensive, which could be good for me.
@@danieldougan269 Hi, which is the Android version? I couldn't find it.
@@louisatu-tetuh3244 M1
SeeMo is more than just a monitor! Recording and live streaming can be costly if you also get dedicated hardware. SeeMo is 4 devices in one: a production monitor that you can load 3D LUTs from the cloud, an HDMI recorder that you can edit and share directly, a live streaming device with built-in wireless connections, and a camera viewfinder.
I would just like to ask if I am recording in a shoot, will i need to press the record button on the camera or the phone? And will i be able to easily review my video on the app or phone after recording it. Thank you
I still carry an older Accsoon product in my camera bag. It's obsolete now as my Sony cameras come with WiFi and the free app doubles as a monitor and remote control. This solution works with any phone, is wireless and free.
WiFi does not work good everywhere.
Philipp Bloom has a cool solution to charge the phone while using.
So you can only use your camera at 1080p 60fps max? Is that right? Or you can only record from the iPhone in 1080p 60fps max?
I want that OM-D shirt
Which type of battery does it actually use? Model type number?
Thanks guys! This seems to be the exact "monitor" tool I need. However, just wanted to know if there is a difference in the lag between this guy and the M1 (Android version)
The latency of SeeMo is much better, and SeeMo use H.264 so the image quality is much better too.
@@appaccsoon4398 Thank you! Is there any availability in India yet?
Great review guys! The shill vibe in this one... lol. I too would pay a slightly higher premium for a black version of this with built in wireless charging and slightly better build. I mean the ring around the eject area seems like its meant for such functionality. Maybe its already in the works? hmmm....
Do you know how can I start recording via phone but record internally IN camera ?
Do you think this could be used to direct a very short film remotely?
is it possible to make live for youtube using Accsoon SeeMo Review and dslr?
For THAT price I don‘t see the advantage in comparison to even cheaper hardware monitors. AND you will be dependent on Accsoon to keep up with Apples update-and-kill-apps strategie which would make it rather short term investment!
SeeMo passed Apple MFi certification, so need to worry about this.
Truth
I’ve had an iPhone since version 2 and not a single app that I use regularly has been killed.
@@appaccsoon4398 so don’t worry
SeeMo is more than just a monitor! Recording and live streaming can be costly if you also get dedicated hardware. SeeMo is 4 devices in one: a production monitor that you can load 3D LUTs from the cloud, an HDMI recorder that you can edit and share directly, a live streaming device with built-in wireless connections, and a camera viewfinder.
How does this compare to HDMI capture card with Monitor+ on Android? Since on Android you can use Type-c hub with power in, so you can use HDMI feed while charging, just need 2 cables
Those captures can only work with Android, and use MJPEG compression so the image quality is very low, also have color issue. SeeMo adopted H.264 so the image quality is way more better than those captures. SeeMo is the only capture can feed video into the iOS via USB and passed Apple MFi certification.
@@appaccsoon4398 sounds good
Hey Jordon, Caleb Pike (DSLR Video Shooter) just released a review of the SeeMo and implied that you can use the 5V output to both get video and power out to your phone to keep it charged. Did you try this?
yeah this is listed on the product description as well!
Are you saying that the SeeMo does charge your phone as well as monitoring?
If so, that’s even more awesome haha!!
@@NicholasLeicht it’s one or the other. When you aren’t using the phone as a monitor you can plug it a cable from the 5V output but it can’t be the same cable as it’s not wired for charging. You cannot charge and monitor at the same time with lightning, you will need to see you MagSafe to get round that issue.
You can use the MagSafe charger to provide power while your phone is connected to SeeMo. We love to charge iPhone through the lightning connection, but it’s not possible at this moment due to Apple imposed restrictions. You CAN charge your iPad while using the SeeMo.
@@nkisystems this is what I am showing in my imminent review, you just can’t do this with the SeeMo cradle as it’s not deep enough.
If the flash of your phone was triggered by the button on your cam ohhhhh boy would that be neat! Question. If I’m using this with a 60+ MP camera is the detail on your phone enough to tell if you’re doing things correctly? The fact that I can shoot photography with a desqueezed image and in seconds edit with capture one mobile and transfer to social media is pretty insane.
Streaming from my phone with an ATEM mini could be a game changer.
We've tested ATEM Mini works great with SeeMo!
Can I use this with a Sony A6600?
What lens are you using with the FX30 ? I’m curious, got mine on preorder but I don’t know which lenses could be a good investment 🤔 first time getting into the E-Mount, never cared for this system until this new FX30 😅
I'm more on the photo side, but the 2.8/16-55G is a great little lens in terms of IQ and versatile range. The focus is also very fast and silent, and there's minimal focus breathing. The electronic focus ring may or may not be a problem, depending on what you want to do.
@@ziginox oh awesome, yeah I’ve seen it’s a great lens but given how expensive that lens is, I think it would be more beneficial to buy a FF lens around that price point 🤔 but still I’ll have it into consideration, I want value lenses.
@@AndyLSB for value lenses look at the sigma trio. The Sigma 16mm 1.4, the 30mm 1.4 and the 56mm 1.4. These lenses are ridiculously great at very reasonable prices. Best value lenses in the camera world - especially that 16.
@@MarkBennettCameraCrisis yeah that 16mm is on my list, I have the 30mm on my GH6 but it suffers from great CA, I also have the 11-20mm from Tamron but don’t know if it’ll make sense having that and the Sigma 16, or better the 17-28mm from Tamron too, that one has internal zooming, it’s hard having so much options 😅
I have to disagree with the Sigma 1.4 recommendation. I have all three, and they're great photo lenses. I especially love the 56mm. All three have significant focus breathing. The AF on the 30mm can make clicking noises at times, and the aperture actuator on the 56 is super loud.
I wouldn't go after full frame glass, unless you have another full frame body. While the 16-55 is steep, full frame lenses will only be bulkier and not have as useful of a zoom range. Granted, that all depends on what range you need.
Would be great to cover what the Android equivalent would be!
Xperia phones 👀
@@ying20000818 Xperia is pretty much unusable as its supported only by it's own very limited software.
I have been using Accsoon M1 for 6month. I have enquired about the difference spec wise between M1 and Seemo. Accsoon support says Seemo has a lot better hardware therefore support h264 1080p output regardless of what iPad or iPhone it connects to whereas M1 output limit is Android processor dependent.
@@frankluo230 M1 is limited by 1080p also but it's using MJpeg which is worse. Android supports up to 4K in h265, it would be extream if they could implement h265 10bit 4K with pass though option for streaming.
@@Rambalac 1080p mjpeg max 20mbps but not always smooth, audio is broken too.
I honestly just plan on buying this to record over 30 minutes with my xt4
It’s not a replacement for internal recording.
@@philipbloom I know, but when I need to record over 30 minutes it is usually for the dj sets I am performing so the quality isn’t the most important thing.
@@atacant fair enough. I don’t think the X-H2S doesn’t have the 30 minute limit if you want a much more expensive solution 😂
How has it been working for you? Did you end up getting it? Does it record over 30 min consistently?
@@maxvorobey1316 I bought an elgato 4k hdmi capture card instead. The bitrate isn’t super high but seemed like the most cost effective solution.
Does it have HDMI trigger rec for recording to the phone?
Not currently
Its good for photography?
Will this work with URSA?
Can you record both to the phone and internally? This could be a boost to the Sigma FP
Only if your camera can output to hdmi while recording.
Yes, you can.
how to charge iphone?
I'm shocked they were able to get anything out of the usb2 lightning port hahaha
So for Sony, there is the Monitor+ app that Seems better in a lot of ways. I just started playing with it but it seems pretty cool. The biggest advantage is it only uses the phone battery saving a lot of weight. This still needs a big battery. Should try a comparison between the 2.
The lag from Wi-Fi is a big issue, plus the image isn’t anywhere near as good.
@@philipbloom you can use the usb option if you have an old android phone that supports OTG (this is what i m doing). which pretty much going to cost you 10 dollars for the OTG cable and an additional 22 dollars for the pro version if you need it. the lag i saw using usb is so comparable to the the one presented in this video.
@@icu4784 so this is about the iPhone in case you missed that bit! 😂
@@philipbloom i missed over explaning that this is an alternative solution in case you have another thrown in drawer android phone like in my case when you daily driver is an Iphone 😅😂. I also think you can get a used android phone for under 100 bucks which then no need to pay 180 for the setup mentioned in this video. However, it is good to have some alternatives like the solution made by Accsoon SeeMo.
@@icu4784 it’s about always having a monitor with you even when you don’t expect to need one.
I have a BGH1 and there are times when the internal recording formats are fine and I don't need the atomos, a phone would do. However what is the benefit if any in using this device instead of the wi-fi app for monitoring?? I could always use an SD to Iphone dongle to dump the file on my phone if needed.
I think this product will be more beneficial for Mirroless users.. wifi monitoring may consume more battery, which is not an issue for box cameras. Also, other manufacturers' apps may not be as useful as monitoring with Panasonic's App.
most wifi apps don't have false color, anamorphic desqueeze, custom luts
And wifi is unstable
@@MrNoipe That's right thank you
I forgot the streaming direct to social media option isn't available in wifi phone apps?? It's a pretty neat bonus if so
Hey guys, what lens(es) are you using to film on the Sony FX30?
Sony 15mm F1.4 & 35mm F1.4. Great lenses!
@@dpreview They certainly produce a nice image along with the FX30. Thanks for letting me know.
My sister just found her Olympus Trip AF 30 from 1984 and would love to see a "good-enough-in-2022"-review of it. The camera that is.
;)
Will it work on Nikon?
Can you use the android See app on the SeeMo?
You can use Ascoon M1 on Android with any UVC app.
Wouldn’t wireless charging be too slow to keep the phone powered? I assume this draws a lot of power.
MagSafe can provide more than enough power
Is this better or just cheaper than CamRanger?
Any HDMI USB capture card for as low as 15 bucks will do the same, only without the official app, you just need a USB camera app and screen recorder that's all
yes
Those adapters can only support Android, also with very low image quality and color issus cause them use MJPEG compression with very high compression rate. SeeMo use H264 and the bitrate up to 30Mbps, the image is visual lossless.
DJI Raven Eye does HDMI to iOS. And it does it wireless. Lag seam worse on this than the Raven eye.
SeeMo has roughly half the latency of DJI Raven Eye. Calculated from the HDMI input port to the screen of your iOS device, does not factor in camera latency.
Interesting. Is it possible to clamp a Samsung fold phone on this ?
You will need the Accsoon M1
@@nkisystems Thank you
I bought seemo yesterday,seemo 's hdmi output on app doesn't match the camera frame rate,always showing 50/60p (camera set 25/24p), seemo also recording the wrong frame rate in app
Probably your camera Hdmi output limitation.
What's the camera model? Please check the HDMI output settings of the camera. The HDMI output not always same as the recording format according to camare settings.
@@appaccsoon4398 sony a7m4 /fx3，hdmi output set both pal 1080/4k 25p ，see app showing 50p，camera set ntsc 24/30p app showing 60p.use different hdmi cables still showing wrong frame rate and also internal recording files
@@Rambalac tried both Sony a7m4 and fx3. camera HDMI output set 25p/ 30p but the app frame rate doesn’t match camera hdmi output value
@@HanlingDong that’s the camera not the Seemo
What make it better then RavenEye?
It's wired - reliable
yes
It's an interesting device, but it's in the same price range as the more budget monitors like the ones from Feelworld. I think I'd rather just get a dedicated monitor when it comes to that, the appeal of using a phone would be saving money, so I would probably not pay more than 50 dollars for a device like this
SeeMo is not just a monitor. Recording and live streaming will be very costly if you also get dedicated hardware. It's really 4 devices in one: a production monitor that you can load 3D LUTs from the cloud, an HDMI recorder that you can edit and share directly, a live streaming device with built-in wireless connections, and a camera viewfinder.
How useful or practical for just nature and bird photos? It's hard to review images on the camera in bright sunlight
for just 20 bugs more i get a Desview R5II... ok is not a recorder, but the better monitor for shure!
Why use adapters at all? We should expect from the camera manufacturer an USB-C output which serves as a standard UVC (webcam) signal to any computer or smartphone / tablet.
Some cameras do.
iOS does not support UVC protocol.
What we need in Atomos Ninja built a smartphone size monitor. That's all
🎉❤
You’ll have to get a splitter in to charge your phone.
Seems more like a "solution in search of a problem" situation to me. Maybe I'm getting old but I don't get the impulse to cram a phone into every tech situation. A dedicated monitor is going to be the same size, close to the same price, has less lag, and most have options for power out to the camera or other accessories. And I won't have to turn my phone to airplane mode to avoid having a call or notification interrupt a shot.
You're not wrong, but there are use cases for this. I shoot documentaries, and need to travel light. I will always have my phone with me, and sometimes a backup phone for safety (and to put in an international sim etc). This is a much smaller accessory than an external recorder, and would not increase the weight of my setup or take up too much space in my camera bag. Just one use-case scenario that I can think of at the moment, at least
@@vaidehiarts There are a few uses for sure. I try to stay light & compact too, but as just a backup option, I think I would want to avoid carrying a heavy NP-F, and just use the stock wi-fi app. I have a cheap 5" monitor that is certainly larger than the Accsoon, but weighs almost nothing.
@@aldolega Fair enough. Maybe the lighter NP-Fs would work just as well? Wi-Fi has too much lag, I've tried the apps from the companies (I have Panasonic and Fuji). But maybe that will improve in a couple of years with the Wifi 6E or 7 technologies
It would be great if it could be powered by USB-C as well, then I could just have one portable power bank and charge camera, Accsoon, and the phone all at once.
There are FP batteries with USB-C input for charging.
@@Rambalac Sure, but that's just extra bulk for no good reason. I appreciate battery is an option like with monitors, I just like having a simple USB-C port too.
@@sloanNYC you can use the smallest FP battery with usb-c, the size is two round batteries.
@@Rambalac yes, and that is still an extra accessory, weight, and bulk that isn't needed. just make that 5v output one bi-directional so you can choose. then you can run it and charge the phone at the same time even.
I think it is about time. No it isn't perfect. Nothing is. Not sure I agree with it needing to be $250.00 with the features Jordon is talking other than maybe a better cold shoe. Power button is not that big a deal. Increase the brightness of the power LED sure. Charge the phone would nice too. $179.00 price point is right. You're going to get more people in on that than a higher price. It is brand new. It will need to be a success and need to seed further development if any. Be realistic here folks. I hope later we get more of what Jordan says, but for what it is. Many products fail trying to be too much out of the gate. Just be good at your core, then further refine it with a few nice haves. Nice 1st effort actually. Stop inflating a product for it isn't.
You got it!
Just get a Z-finder. 😄
As always I love you guys and your videos, but this product leaves much to be desired.
cheap product, cheap video, I guess!...
You’d pay $250 for that? I might pay $49.95 if it included free shipping 🤣👍
We will gladly pay $49.95 plus some if anyone can make it for us at that price!
@@nkisystems No doubt, cost to produce matters, but ultimately it’s an hdmi to usb signal converter than can only output 1080p/60 in a world of 4K everything. It’s close, but not $250 close by any measure in my opinion 🤷♂️
Definitely interesting but for the price there's so good cheap monitors out there
SeeMo is not just a monitor. Recording and live streaming will be very costly if you also get dedicated hardware. It's really 4 devices in one: a production monitor that you can load 3D LUTs from the cloud, an HDMI recorder that you can edit and share directly, a live streaming device with built-in wireless connections, and a camera viewfinder.
fix UA-cam title... typo with "Accsoon"
fix username... typo with "antpants"
@@_o__o_ 🤣🤣🤣
Frame rate isn’t consistent
For $179 why not just use your phone and screen record?
I loved all of the "shill" accusations flung back and forth. I'm sure you guys are sick of hearing them from random strangers, however.
IPhone? What about Android?
Ascoon M1. Even better, supports phone charging
I can pick up an actual monitor for that.
this first gen is no bueno. lets see how gen 2 pans out. and I for the life of me can’t understand why they decided to make the thing white and plastic.
180$ +NPF cost? Way to much.
Zcam ipman gemini does very similar things for Android and it's almost a third of the price and doesn't require an external battery.
200$ for this and you might as well just buy a monitor.
Accsoon M1 for Android, $99. SeeMo is for iOS. Isn't Apple's screen better than Android or monitor? iPad mini is great.
180$ is basically now the price for not having a flip-out display
Yes the App support flip-out display, just need to tab a small button. The App has all the festures that traditional monitor have.
He's wearing a bears on camera hat?
The Android version is only $99, and makes a perfect camera screen recorder.
The M1?
@@izzieb yes.
“You’re a shill” 😂
"You're a shill" 😂
it looks cheep omg
I call it BS: Andycine, Feelworld, etc. having 5.5 to 7 inch monitors priced around the same ballpark. That crap-looking piece of white plastic - that can't even grab an iPad - costing almost 200USD?... and you still need batteries and cables on top of that...
Damn it this looks clunky, its cool, but
Android rules, iphone drools.
"you're a shill!"