I remember being in a restaurant on the wharf during a storm a few years ago, feeling the whole building shake, and wondering what preventative maintenance was done against the pounding of those waves. I guess now I know...nothing.
The city cobbles together and bandaids the warf, which is a huge tax and revenue generator. The city council is leftwing woke and progressive which means they are as rotten to their cores as the warf pilings are.
From the abundance of seagulls I see just over the hill at Guadalupe land fill and other various locations in the valley and even in Santa Cruze and the coast, I would hardly say that the disappearance of nesting areas for a few years to repair the structure would cause a hardship to the gulls population! People are making excuses for other reasons.
Absolutely preventable. City should have attained a waiver from coastal commission to do repairs immediately after last years storm. Coastal commission should be sued. Justin Cummings came out and lied about waves being biggest since 1983 yet wharf was open when it collapsed with waves not even close to the deck like last year when they closed the wharf due to huge waves hitting the decking. So ridiculous measures to not disturb a few seagulls created public safety issue almost killing workers, debris spread over miles of coastline, pollution from equipment that sank, financial burden in millions for city and businesses on the wharf. Coastal commission must be held accountable for these draconian restrictions that led to this environmental disaster
Tony Elliott comes out the gate blaming climate change. The true believers inside city gov don’t really push back at all and that’s why these agencies rule everything
This guy is complaining about a decision made TEN+ YEARS ago. Many changes in Coastal Comm. since then. Where's the city's follow up response, alternative proposals, and more?? And yes, public safety overrides many other rules. This reporter should've asked a lot more questions. Sounds like the city had poor or nonexistent follow-up to the 2013 decision.
The city cobbles together and bandaids the warf, which is a huge tax and revenue generator. The city council is leftwing woke and progressive which means they are as rotten to their cores as the warf pilings are.
You do understand the CC had no play in this? We didn’t have funds & it was wrapped up in a lawsuit. They started construction in September of this year.
The city cobbles together and bandaids the warf, which is a huge tax and revenue generator. The city council is leftwing woke and progressive which means they are as rotten to their cores as the warf pilings are.
As a former Santa Cruzian, as well as one whose most memorable childhood moments are on that warf. I just want to say the boardwalk gets better maintained by all that I have heard. I fully understand that it is the hangout for the youth of the area. It is a teen hotspot even for teens from San Jose. I’m just saying the warf had a personality all its own; and to see this historic site that was once a part my families coming up on a whole come to this sorry state. It soured the Christmas holiday for a lot of families who feel the same I am sure! You would never see damage like this done to the boardwalk! The county has turned the carnival grounds inaccurate matter of fact! It sort of stings. Again I understand how it came to this, that does not mean I have to like it!
One of the only tourist attractions in Santa Cruz that actually generates tax revenue. I worked for James Gilbert for close to a decade. Gilberts Seafood Grill, AKA Malios. This was back in the late 80's/early 90's. Standing in the dining room in the 80's. Watching the ceiling fixtures swing around. Watching the waves out of the dining room window, full of debris. This is nothing new. Except for the neglect.
I haven't lived in Santa Cruz since 2000 so I really don't have a right to say much but I think this is a load of BS, the Santa Cruz wharf has always been a gem of Santa Cruz and a big attraction. It has brought a lot of great memories for locals I really hope they don't tear it down I mean what would they put in place of it what is the scheme?
Exactly, it always seems that when it comes to the coast line and restrictions and development it all boils down to one person or entity and not the populist/ taxpayer citizen to decide.
The real question is in..., 2013 where the funds were allocated to facilitate this fix,..Where the money go.., and who were the ones who wrecklessly stood in the way of the process. They need to puts those responsible what what had happen and many more lives than 1 would have been lost, the family members of the deceased need to now file a law suit for gross negligence...and now the pier is on borrowed time as it's now compromised and will be a HAZZARD...and possible more lives lost if further negligence goes unaddressed. This could have been prevented. Shame on the city of Santa cruz ro let this happen, especially if they knew it would happen eventually....report on that KPIX
.....in addition, the money that was saved, the nolonger paid toll taker salaries, the lied to the tax payers after the 1987 earth earthquake., the promise of the raise toll to fix the bridge, then will return back to normal, never happen, stealing millions from tax payers and commuters. Now,.currently raising the bridge toll to $8 and continue to rise over time..., where is all this additional money "REALLY" GOING TO, IT.DOESNT NEED THE FANCY RED PAINT LIKE THE GOLDEN GATE, SO WHO AND WHERE IS ALL THIS STOLEN TOLL GOING??...
@mendynoma4272 The debris from the collapsed killed him, & yes it.was due to the pier collapsing, which in 2013 they had all the data and was suppose to fix it, but the trouble maker tree huggers was too concern about seagull nesting, which is contradicting as if the pier collapsing completely and it will,.will destroy the nesting,.but should've addressed it,.so this tragedy of a life and possibly more lives lost.
Mike, plans had probably dated back much longer than this. In the 70s we would go out to the end of the pier to crab and fish often at night. We could feel the swaying then. When cars would drive to the end we could feel the rumbling on the asphalt. This has been disaster just waiting to happen. Large waves or not. This is not the first time some of the stores and restaurants have been closed on the wharf for upgrading. Just the first time they have been knocked out of existence. Like everything else in the news these days details are being left out. One might wish to go and ask a Grandparent or someone familiar with the history of that Wharf to learn more. The fish markets out on the pier have been in competition with each other forever. Politics run wild in Santa Cruz.
@ConnieB-ig4ds the plans referring to was suppose to happen as of 2013 to implement the fixes, but due to the W'reckless tree huggers, someone is now dead, these are the same people who is the cause of the homeless overtaking cities, and getting out of hand with crime, drug use and just plain public health and safety. There is a time and place for the homeless and tree hugging, but it has gone too far board, just the the clown circus of us politic with a convicted 24 count felon as president
No, it's just that a very small group of people can exploit legal laws to their benefit, screwing over common sense plans such as strengthening a crumbling pier. I'm all for protecting the environment, but when it comes at the potential loss of life for innocent bystanders, a judge needs to throw those lawsuits out. Seagulls have the entire coastline and region to nest, but the pier is just one location. The birds will find elsewhere to go, but the pier can't just up and move itself. Some environmental laws cause more harm than good.
No, it's probably just a matter of paying the "chosen contractor" for repairs and renovations. More politics. Imagine if this had happened when there were hundreds of people at the end of the wharf, fishing, crabbing eating at the Dolphin or just walking around. In some ways we should feel lucky especially those who visited frequently. As children we used to talk about what we would do if we accidently fell into the water, or the white fencing rail would break while leaning on it. We discussed a plan about this years ago. Believe me in the 70s it would sway back on forth on occasion. This is nothing new or shocking. Officials and locals just do not want it to become like another pier 39 project in San Francisco. Far too commercially driven. Caused Fishermans Wharf to become too much of a tourist attraction instead of honoring its historical beauty
All warfs and piers must meet all code requirements The problem is nobody wants to do what's nessary to comply Inspections and maintenance are expensive until we have a structural failure like this that wakes everybody up This was brought up when the capitola collapsed last year Santa cruz Pier all cost more money than the one
Seagulls are easy to deal with, simply don’t allow them to build a nest by continuing to remove the partial nest every other day and they will eventually go somewhere else. If you do this for a couple of years straight they won’t come back. Prioritizing the nest of a seagull over the potential loss of human life, well I guess this is where we are at regarding our priority’s, plus it’s obvious we need allot more seagulls around here, there practically extinct. Also take time to go and look at the debris from the wharf, there are MANY hollow pilings and snapped off wood members that show considerable lack of maintenance. It is obvious why this happened, the people in charge either don’t want it or aren’t competent, but don’t worry they won’t be held accountable.
Correct, and often environmental rules allow for construction to start BEFORE nesting season- so no nests are formed. It sounds more like the city didn't follow up with alternate proposals, and they should be asked about that!
The story of the Retired Supervisor is very credible to me. These kind of stories are common nowadays; similar concepts, different issues. I understand shear forces. This is doubly important when you take into consideration the power of the ocean and the corrosive properties of the ocean water and deterioration of wooden pilings. This is how things play out in the modern era: 1. Core issue based on facts: Deteriorating resistance to shear forces means the pier will collapse; core issue get lost in a sea of noise and irrelevant issues. 2. Non- technical people get involved with non-mission critical issues a) Activists who think with their emotions and have no technical capability (in this case, structural engineering) b) The Politicians who also have no technical capability but want the *optics* to look good to the Activists (e.g. votes) and to virtue signal to the general public (more votes) 3. Process a) Endless talking about non-mission critical issues that go in circles b) Endless delays c) Administrative costs pile up as they spend time on non-mission critical issues and commision studies and/or prices go up and endless delays. d) A myriad of non-mission critical requirements and regulations pile up, increasing delays and costs, and make *doing actual work* harder and more expensive. 4. But the Activists and Politicians *feel good* about themselves and virtue signal to naive people that don't understand mission-critical technical issues 5. Result...well, you see it here. 6. But you can look across America, and we can't build or fix things anymore. And all the projects go through the same nonsense.
Absolutely take steps to keep the wharf open. Considering Santa Cruz has no problem building those huge, ugly buildings on Pacific and River Streets, which just destroy downtown. The city must do what it can to preserve Santa Cruz. The wharf is an asset in many ways. After those buildings were built it would not surprise me if the wharf shuts down. I hate to even think it, I fear the next thing to happen will be a catastrophic boardwalk fire. Sounds crazy, but then giant ugly hotels could be built, etc. I hope the “leaders”of Santa Cruz wake up and preserve what is left.
Wait until all the hidden fail welds surface on the new bay bridge, a build a head of schedule and budget, a tragedy, like the Baltimore bridge calapse waiting to happen. It may look nice and new on the outside, but the build quality is questionable
There hasn't been a big steamer docking at the Santa Cruz Wharf, to pick up lumber and lime, to rebuild San Francisco for a long time. Its original purpose is gone - unlike the golden gate which is more vital to traffic than ever.
Building a surge break wall by staking concrete tetrapods could have reduced the force of those waves significantly but the samd oppondnts of doing anything would havd forced the same result.
There's more to the story that should have been followed up here. If public safety was at risk, then they did have a case to move forward. Construction is generally allowed if started BEFORE the nesting season. There've been changes to certain Ceqa rules and at the Coastal Commission, which are more friendly to construction. The city is responsible for public safety... if one proposal was unsuccessful over 10 YEARS AGO, where's the alternate proposal?? Where's the reporter's follow-up questions?? SMH.
If the city is going to help the businesses on the wharf, that means that the city anticipates reopening the wharf. So, if the food servers all go out and get other jobs, then the restaurants will have to find new servers. I eat several meals each week on the wharf and would like to see the same servers there when the restaurants reopen. I'd wager that there aren't 2-300 server jobs open in Santa Cruz at this time.
The city cobbles together and bandaids the warf, which is a huge tax and revenue generator. The city council is leftwing woke and progressive which means they are as rotten to their cores as the warf pilings are.
OMG. "A giant unforced error" says retired wharf supervisor Jon Bombaci. Prompt repairs could have saved the wharf. The City of Santa Cruz, rich activists, and the California Coastal Commission almost seem like co-conspirators in the partial collapse of the wharf. Did the collapse happen due to gross negligence or intentional inaction. Maybe it was a combination of both? Is anyone going to be held accountable?
The city has been trying to repair and reinforce the pier. It was a lawsuit from a local environmental activist group that prevented the needed upgrades, not the city being cheap.
@@Strideo1The decision he discusses here was 10+ years ago. Environmental rules have waivers allowed for public safety... has there been zero follow up by the city since then?
Funny facts. If you want to replace your hvac system, you need to pay for a city permit, prepare some paperwork, and pass the inspection. But here, in public places, nobody cares about safety things.
The wharf is a unique parking lot, commercial zone and no-license fishing area. Is that the best deeper water experience a modern town can give its old timers, commuters, tourists and day-trippers?
Talk about a case of misplaced priorities. They don't do the necessary repairs on the wharf because of... _seagulls? _*_Seagulls?!?_* Are they kidding? I mean, seagulls aren't exactly an endangered species to begin with & last time I checked they can build nests anywhere...right...? I mean, they've been building nests along the California coasts long before man even walked upright, so why is that the wharf is the *_only_* place they can build their nests? I swear, this is typical of California bass-ackward priorities in action right here...
Nesting Seagulls? Seagulls are not a species that is going extinct. They have gone from 1000 breeding birds in 1982 to over 45000 plus now. In this case it contributed to this pier collapse and the possible death of workers on this pier. This would have impacted any seagull nesting insignificantly for a brief period.
The city did not want to give a permit to repair because they said it would harm the environment!!!!! The repair would be bad but the oil and gas from the dummies driving on it with a forklift and crane 🏗️ is a much better option for the city. The blind leading the blind.
Use some of those tourist tax dollars and parking fees to fix the damn thing! Ask yourself, would China give up on repairing the wall? Would the French just stop repairing the Eiffel Tower?
Where is all that parking money going??
I remember being in a restaurant on the wharf during a storm a few years ago, feeling the whole building shake, and wondering what preventative maintenance was done against the pounding of those waves. I guess now I know...nothing.
The city cobbles together and bandaids the warf, which is a huge tax and revenue generator. The city council is leftwing woke and progressive which means they are as rotten to their cores as the warf pilings are.
Same!
From the abundance of seagulls I see just over the hill at Guadalupe land fill and other various locations in the valley and even in Santa Cruze and the coast, I would hardly say that the disappearance of nesting areas for a few years to repair the structure would cause a hardship to the gulls population! People are making excuses for other reasons.
Absolutely preventable. City should have attained a waiver from coastal commission to do repairs immediately after last years storm. Coastal commission should be sued. Justin Cummings came out and lied about waves being biggest since 1983 yet wharf was open when it collapsed with waves not even close to the deck like last year when they closed the wharf due to huge waves hitting the decking.
So ridiculous measures to not disturb a few seagulls created public safety issue almost killing workers, debris spread over miles of coastline, pollution from equipment that sank, financial burden in millions for city and businesses on the wharf.
Coastal commission must be held accountable for these draconian restrictions that led to this environmental disaster
Tony Elliott comes out the gate blaming climate change. The true believers inside city gov don’t really push back at all and that’s why these agencies rule everything
This guy is complaining about a decision made TEN+ YEARS ago. Many changes in Coastal Comm. since then. Where's the city's follow up response, alternative proposals, and more?? And yes, public safety overrides many other rules. This reporter should've asked a lot more questions. Sounds like the city had poor or nonexistent follow-up to the 2013 decision.
The city cobbles together and bandaids the warf, which is a huge tax and revenue generator. The city council is leftwing woke and progressive which means they are as rotten to their cores as the warf pilings are.
You do understand the CC had no play in this? We didn’t have funds & it was wrapped up in a lawsuit. They started construction in September of this year.
The city cobbles together and bandaids the warf, which is a huge tax and revenue generator. The city council is leftwing woke and progressive which means they are as rotten to their cores as the warf pilings are.
As a former Santa Cruzian, as well as one whose most memorable childhood moments are on that warf. I just want to say the boardwalk gets better maintained by all that I have heard. I fully understand that it is the hangout for the youth of the area. It is a teen hotspot even for teens from San Jose. I’m just saying the warf had a personality all its own; and to see this historic site that was once a part my families coming up on a whole come to this sorry state. It soured the Christmas holiday for a lot of families who feel the same I am sure! You would never see damage like this done to the boardwalk! The county has turned the carnival grounds inaccurate matter of fact! It sort of stings. Again I understand how it came to this, that does not mean I have to like it!
One of the only tourist attractions in Santa Cruz that actually generates tax revenue. I worked for James Gilbert for close to a decade. Gilberts Seafood Grill, AKA Malios. This was back in the late 80's/early 90's. Standing in the dining room in the 80's. Watching the ceiling fixtures swing around. Watching the waves out of the dining room window, full of debris. This is nothing new. Except for the neglect.
Are we running low on seagulls?
seriously!
Also running low on seals!
Vile animals
Seagulls, in my opinion, are just rats with wings. Nasty
I haven't lived in Santa Cruz since 2000 so I really don't have a right to say much but I think this is a load of BS, the Santa Cruz wharf has always been a gem of Santa Cruz and a big attraction. It has brought a lot of great memories for locals I really hope they don't tear it down I mean what would they put in place of it what is the scheme?
Exactly, it always seems that when it comes to the coast line and restrictions and development it all boils down to one person or entity and not the populist/ taxpayer citizen to decide.
Omg if your “memories” are based on the existence of a pier, I feel sorry for you. Pathetic
The real question is in..., 2013 where the funds were allocated to facilitate this fix,..Where the money go.., and who were the ones who wrecklessly stood in the way of the process. They need to puts those responsible what what had happen and many more lives than 1 would have been lost, the family members of the deceased need to now file a law suit for gross negligence...and now the pier is on borrowed time as it's now compromised and will be a HAZZARD...and possible more lives lost if further negligence goes unaddressed. This could have been prevented. Shame on the city of Santa cruz ro let this happen, especially if they knew it would happen eventually....report on that KPIX
.....in addition, the money that was saved, the nolonger paid toll taker salaries, the lied to the tax payers after the 1987 earth earthquake., the promise of the raise toll to fix the bridge, then will return back to normal, never happen, stealing millions from tax payers and commuters. Now,.currently raising the bridge toll to $8 and continue to rise over time..., where is all this additional money "REALLY" GOING TO, IT.DOESNT NEED THE FANCY RED PAINT LIKE THE GOLDEN GATE, SO WHO AND WHERE IS ALL THIS STOLEN TOLL GOING??...
The person who died was nowhere near the wharf.
@mendynoma4272 The debris from the collapsed killed him, & yes it.was due to the pier collapsing, which in 2013 they had all the data and was suppose to fix it, but the trouble maker tree huggers was too concern about seagull nesting, which is contradicting as if the pier collapsing completely and it will,.will destroy the nesting,.but should've addressed it,.so this tragedy of a life and possibly more lives lost.
Mike, plans had probably dated back much longer than this. In the 70s we would go out to the end of the pier to crab and fish often at night. We could feel the swaying then. When cars would drive to the end we could feel the rumbling on the asphalt. This has been disaster just waiting to happen. Large waves or not. This is not the first time some of the stores and restaurants have been closed on the wharf for upgrading. Just the first time they have been knocked out of existence. Like everything else in the news these days details are being left out. One might wish to go and ask a Grandparent or someone familiar with the history of that Wharf to learn more. The fish markets out on the pier have been in competition with each other forever. Politics run wild in Santa Cruz.
@ConnieB-ig4ds the plans referring to was suppose to happen as of 2013 to implement the fixes, but due to the W'reckless tree huggers, someone is now dead, these are the same people who is the cause of the homeless overtaking cities, and getting out of hand with crime, drug use and just plain public health and safety. There is a time and place for the homeless and tree hugging, but it has gone too far board, just the the clown circus of us politic with a convicted 24 count felon as president
Value of the city is going down
Blue-state lack of leadership.
Sounds like city government, local activist, and the coastal commission are collaborating to get rid of the wharf.
No, it's just that a very small group of people can exploit legal laws to their benefit, screwing over common sense plans such as strengthening a crumbling pier. I'm all for protecting the environment, but when it comes at the potential loss of life for innocent bystanders, a judge needs to throw those lawsuits out. Seagulls have the entire coastline and region to nest, but the pier is just one location. The birds will find elsewhere to go, but the pier can't just up and move itself. Some environmental laws cause more harm than good.
Every wharf.
No, it's probably just a matter of paying the "chosen contractor" for repairs and renovations. More politics. Imagine if this had happened when there were hundreds of people at the end of the wharf, fishing, crabbing eating at the Dolphin or just walking around. In some ways we should feel lucky especially those who visited frequently. As children we used to talk about
what we would do if we accidently fell into the water, or the white fencing rail would break while leaning on it. We discussed a plan about this years ago. Believe me in the 70s it would sway back on forth on occasion. This is nothing new or shocking. Officials and locals just do not want it to become like another pier 39 project in San Francisco. Far too commercially driven. Caused Fishermans Wharf to become too much of a tourist attraction instead of honoring its historical beauty
All warfs and piers must meet all code requirements
The problem is nobody wants to do what's nessary to comply
Inspections and maintenance are expensive until we have a structural failure like this that wakes everybody up
This was brought up when the capitola collapsed last year
Santa cruz Pier all cost more money than the one
Das Code.
Seagulls are easy to deal with, simply don’t allow them to build a nest by continuing to remove the partial nest every other day and they will eventually go somewhere else. If you do this for a couple of years straight they won’t come back. Prioritizing the nest of a seagull over the potential loss of human life, well I guess this is where we are at regarding our priority’s, plus it’s obvious we need allot more seagulls around here, there practically extinct.
Also take time to go and look at the debris from the wharf, there are MANY hollow pilings and snapped off wood members that show considerable lack of maintenance. It is obvious why this happened, the people in charge either don’t want it or aren’t competent, but don’t worry they won’t be held accountable.
Correct, and often environmental rules allow for construction to start BEFORE nesting season- so no nests are formed. It sounds more like the city didn't follow up with alternate proposals, and they should be asked about that!
The story of the Retired Supervisor is very credible to me.
These kind of stories are common nowadays; similar concepts, different issues.
I understand shear forces.
This is doubly important when you take into consideration the power of the ocean and the corrosive properties of the ocean water and deterioration of wooden pilings.
This is how things play out in the modern era:
1. Core issue based on facts: Deteriorating resistance to shear forces means the pier will collapse; core issue get lost in a sea of noise and irrelevant issues.
2. Non- technical people get involved with non-mission critical issues
a) Activists who think with their emotions and have no technical capability (in this case, structural engineering)
b) The Politicians who also have no technical capability but want the *optics* to look good to the Activists (e.g. votes) and to virtue signal to the general public (more votes)
3. Process
a) Endless talking about non-mission critical issues that go in circles
b) Endless delays
c) Administrative costs pile up as they spend time on non-mission critical issues and commision studies and/or prices go up and endless delays.
d) A myriad of non-mission critical requirements and regulations pile up, increasing delays and costs, and make *doing actual work* harder and more expensive.
4. But the Activists and Politicians *feel good* about themselves and virtue signal to naive people that don't understand mission-critical technical issues
5. Result...well, you see it here.
6. But you can look across America, and we can't build or fix things anymore. And all the projects go through the same nonsense.
Absolutely take steps to keep the wharf open. Considering Santa Cruz has no problem building those huge, ugly buildings on Pacific and River Streets, which just destroy downtown. The city must do what it can to preserve Santa Cruz. The wharf is an asset in many ways. After those buildings were built it would not surprise me if the wharf shuts down. I hate to even think it, I fear the next thing to happen will be a catastrophic boardwalk fire. Sounds crazy, but then giant ugly hotels could be built, etc. I hope the “leaders”of Santa Cruz wake up and preserve what is left.
They removed the asphalt from the pier. Made it unstable. The pier was built in 1914
Didn't know what they were doing
... that's what I thought!!! 🙏
Not maintained like the Golden Gate Bridge, that's fir sure.
Wait until all the hidden fail welds surface on the new bay bridge, a build a head of schedule and budget, a tragedy, like the Baltimore bridge calapse waiting to happen. It may look nice and new on the outside, but the build quality is questionable
@mikel7296 Never peaid much attention to how the other bridges in the Bay Area look.
There hasn't been a big steamer docking at the Santa Cruz Wharf, to pick up lumber and lime, to rebuild San Francisco for a long time. Its original purpose is gone - unlike the golden gate which is more vital to traffic than ever.
Building a surge break wall by staking concrete tetrapods could have reduced the force of those waves significantly but the samd oppondnts of doing anything would havd forced the same result.
There's more to the story that should have been followed up here. If public safety was at risk, then they did have a case to move forward. Construction is generally allowed if started BEFORE the nesting season. There've been changes to certain Ceqa rules and at the Coastal Commission, which are more friendly to construction. The city is responsible for public safety... if one proposal was unsuccessful over 10 YEARS AGO, where's the alternate proposal?? Where's the reporter's follow-up questions?? SMH.
Homeless seagulls,makes one shudder in horror,Cali’s got some big issues on their plate.
Let's not just think about the business owners - let's think about all of those employees.
They can find other jobs, we have a lot of job in our area. Let’s get real..
If the city is going to help the businesses on the wharf, that means that the city anticipates reopening the wharf. So, if the food servers all go out and get other jobs, then the restaurants will have to find new servers. I eat several meals each week on the wharf and would like to see the same servers there when the restaurants reopen. I'd wager that there aren't 2-300 server jobs open in Santa Cruz at this time.
I find this situation with the pier highly suspicious.
The city cobbles together and bandaids the warf, which is a huge tax and revenue generator. The city council is leftwing woke and progressive which means they are as rotten to their cores as the warf pilings are.
Stagnaros is next..
No please
OMG. "A giant unforced error" says retired wharf supervisor Jon Bombaci. Prompt repairs could have saved the wharf. The City of Santa Cruz, rich activists, and the California Coastal Commission almost seem like co-conspirators in the partial collapse of the wharf. Did the collapse happen due to gross negligence or intentional inaction. Maybe it was a combination of both? Is anyone going to be held accountable?
Pay now or pay later!
Well, do what all politicians do, take the money that was for the up-keep and up-grade, and give themselves a bonus (for public safety of-course).
I don't know about everyone else, but I'm feeling injured by all this, I'm ready to sue!!!!
Look at all that debris and trash. So much for the whales😂
Yes it was avoidable.. they are too busy with homeless and immigrants. Instead of it's own
If they are smart they will repair it
Moving all that heavy equipment off before the storm hit might have helped it from swaying!🤡🇺🇸
They were cheap. They didn’t wanna spend the money and they just figured the hell with the working people..
The city has been trying to repair and reinforce the pier. It was a lawsuit from a local environmental activist group that prevented the needed upgrades, not the city being cheap.
@@Strideo1The decision he discusses here was 10+ years ago. Environmental rules have waivers allowed for public safety... has there been zero follow up by the city since then?
Genuinely scared to step on any wharf now. This is coming from someone that’s been around construction and faith in engineering practice all my life
Then don’t go, who is making you?
@ no one asked you to reply. Why you need to reply?
Poor maintenance!!
Funny facts. If you want to replace your hvac system, you need to pay for a city permit, prepare some paperwork, and pass the inspection. But here, in public places, nobody cares about safety things.
Im surprised at how the fork lift was still floating
Kind of a headache for the sincere, hard-working people in Santa Cruz. There are a lot of them.
I’m a big conservationist naturalist, but even I find it incredibly ridiculous that a few seagull nests prevented repairs and upgrades.
That’s not the entire story, if you follow the case it’s telling. It’s public information.
It seems the city wants to get rid of anything from the past . Most things are worth salvaging.
You better rebuild,!!
The wharf is a unique parking lot, commercial zone and no-license fishing area. Is that the best deeper water experience a modern town can give its old timers, commuters, tourists and day-trippers?
Wow.
For years you could tell just walking on this pier it was failing
Alfred Hitchcock showed us what seagulls are capable of.
Talk about a case of misplaced priorities. They don't do the necessary repairs on the wharf because of... _seagulls? _*_Seagulls?!?_* Are they kidding? I mean, seagulls aren't exactly an endangered species to begin with & last time I checked they can build nests anywhere...right...? I mean, they've been building nests along the California coasts long before man even walked upright, so why is that the wharf is the *_only_* place they can build their nests?
I swear, this is typical of California bass-ackward priorities in action right here...
Government inertia and incompetence.
100 percent avoidable, the peir was in need of updated repairs for sure
Well if Jessy has hope we should all have hope.
Nesting Seagulls? Seagulls are not a species that is going extinct. They have gone from 1000 breeding birds in 1982 to over 45000 plus now. In this case it contributed to this pier collapse and the possible death of workers on this pier. This would have impacted any seagull nesting insignificantly for a brief period.
Fishermans wharf in san francisco is cclosed. What a shame
The homeless drug are a higher priority to the county.
..there's always that "one man" who says.... ns.
Similar stuff is happening all along the coast, including San Francisco. I blame the state!
City!!! Bad management!! Period!
Oh, but what abt the friggin seagulls?
Can anyone name a coastal open ocean pier that has never been damaged or destroyed? The missing 150 feet will not be missed.
If you shut down the wharf Santa cruz will lose millions. Don't do it .
Sea gulls are plentiful, good neighbors not happening, just in this case.
Omg it’s just a crappy old pier. Let it gooooo….
What a bunch of idiots why was anyone surprised?
It’s obvious but I’ll say it anyway, California leaders are asinine.
Keely... the homeless don't float. This is why the taxpayer base of California is leaving.
REALLY BAD PLANNING!
Such bs. They never maintained it, why shocked.
We spend 1.2M a year for repairs and maintenance. Where have you been?
Don’t ya just know the snowflakes will blame global warming 😮😮
People should stop caring so much for birds they will survive people are just gettong to be so stupid animals move to
Of course it was preventable. What they prioritize tents and DEI in blue cities
Built in 1914. Nuff said.😂
That’s what happens when you have no common sense and a high education .
Rat
Another 'win' for leftist leadership...
Damn the abusing of CEQA.
The city did not want to give a permit to repair because they said it would harm the environment!!!!! The repair would be bad but the oil and gas from the dummies driving on it with a forklift and crane 🏗️ is a much better option for the city. The blind leading the blind.
Use some of those tourist tax dollars and parking fees to fix the damn thing!
Ask yourself, would China give up on repairing the wall? Would the French just stop repairing the Eiffel Tower?