@@rayhill397 I don’t think so only because mental fatigue plays just as much of a role after a while as being warmed up. I was putting out there for over 2 hours because I was trying to give every single putt the full routine and I also did this for a while w the Jordan Speith method of looking at the hole but then abandoned it halfway through because it was exhausting. I will say that the picture IN YOUR HEAD being clear is much more important than what your eyes are seeing
What another interesting discussion. 4 to 6 ft is killing my score card so I will try anything. I remember Harrington disagreeing with a still head while putting. He differentiated between rotation of the head and moving it and absolutely thought rotating the head while putting was ok. I would have thought that keeping the fluid in the inner ear steady would be pertinent to perception and balance and it would make sense for that reason to keep the head still. I’ve also read some comments recently from the putting gurus about eye tracking and why focusing on a dot or dimple on the ball should be beneficial but clearly there may be another way. Very interesting observation BBG.
Love this kinda stuff to try out that's more akin to where you place your awareness. With all my clubs, I find I can get different results and feels from a slight shift of focus to different parts of the clubhead, although I would struggle to prove it is anything more than some kind of placebo effect. This was a really intersting one.
I used to follow the putter head with my eyes and tried to UNLEARN it and stare at the ball and always found it so difficult. Then I watched that Bryson video and hearing him say he also watches the putter head made me so happy. Now I'm back to doing what's comfortable
In order to make this a valid test you've have to come back another day and do the same in reverse order. It's very possible that you simply get better the more you practiced.
My friends tell me I do this naturally. My fell or mindset is to move my right shoulder back under and thru. Allowing my head to follow this same path keeps my putter head square and low on the short follow thru. I have a strange set up. The ball is played off the outside of my lead or left foot. I then place 80% of my weight on that lead foot which moves my sternum and eyes over the ball. I never was taught this and never really worked on it. But my playing partners always ask me why I do it I say I’m not sure it’s just natural for me.
@@l0rdkeithingt0n funny you say that because I did at the same time I did this I did the Jordan Spieth method of looking at the hole as well. But I found that in order to do it effectively, it takes an incredible amount of mental focus. 90% of the time it would be a super effective method, but if you let your focus waiver, just a little bit on your preview perception of where the clubhead is, you could hit one extremely bad. It makes sense that someone with steel trap mental game like Jordan finds it useful. I was exhausted putting that way
This may work. However, I think you have to keep in mind the lie angle of his putter. Being that uprght, it makes sense to go straight back and straight through and watch the putter head. With more of an arc, this may or may not apply
Well done on doing all the tests and the amount of putting. From my review only Bernard Langer does it like Bryson. J Wagner believes you shouldnt keep your head still but does not look at putterhead per se.
@@sparkerino92 great for 30 feet or farther, but you have to have really good clubhead awareness. Eric alpenfels did a study in this and found from long distance people were More Accurate by looking AT the target From in close Dave Stockton has people look at a spot on the green about 6 inches past the ball
Is the feel like a pendulum, only your head is part of the pendulum as opposed to the pendulum stopping at your shoulders in a normal head still stroke?
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Thanks for watching!
Try closing your eyes. Also, try looking at the hole. I think a lot of approaches can work.
Could it also be that you were “warmed up” and had the speed of the green when you switched over to Bryson method and as a result scored better?
@@rayhill397 I don’t think so only because mental fatigue plays just as much of a role after a while as being warmed up. I was putting out there for over 2 hours because I was trying to give every single putt the full routine and I also did this for a while w the Jordan Speith method of looking at the hole but then abandoned it halfway through because it was exhausting.
I will say that the picture IN YOUR HEAD being clear is much more important than what your eyes are seeing
Thanks for coming back . That does make sense.
What another interesting discussion. 4 to 6 ft is killing my score card so I will try anything. I remember Harrington disagreeing with a still head while putting. He differentiated between rotation of the head and moving it and absolutely thought rotating the head while putting was ok. I would have thought that keeping the fluid in the inner ear steady would be pertinent to perception and balance and it would make sense for that reason to keep the head still. I’ve also read some comments recently from the putting gurus about eye tracking and why focusing on a dot or dimple on the ball should be beneficial but clearly there may be another way. Very interesting observation BBG.
I think this can free up someone’s shoulder turn as opposed to focusing in on the hit ball or hole
@@nanidaddy32506 the only thing that limits it is learning to trust it. That takes a while
Love this kinda stuff to try out that's more akin to where you place your awareness. With all my clubs, I find I can get different results and feels from a slight shift of focus to different parts of the clubhead, although I would struggle to prove it is anything more than some kind of placebo effect. This was a really intersting one.
I used to follow the putter head with my eyes and tried to UNLEARN it and stare at the ball and always found it so difficult. Then I watched that Bryson video and hearing him say he also watches the putter head made me so happy. Now I'm back to doing what's comfortable
i think putter as clubhead is better than ball focus
Very good! I saw Bryson do that and was intrigued by it
Thx!
I can see it freeing up your shoulder turn and takes focus off ball and hole so it frees you up
In order to make this a valid test you've have to come back another day and do the same in reverse order. It's very possible that you simply get better the more you practiced.
I only ever watch my putter head. That's what's moving. That's what can get misaligned. Not the ball.
I think Bryson also has the image of his ruler for distance in his head
@@mogley71 yeah he has those distances all worked out.
My friends tell me I do this naturally. My fell or mindset is to move my right shoulder back under and thru. Allowing my head to follow this same path keeps my putter head square and low on the short follow thru. I have a strange set up. The ball is played off the outside of my lead or left foot. I then place 80% of my weight on that lead foot which moves my sternum and eyes over the ball. I never was taught this and never really worked on it. But my playing partners always ask me why I do it I say I’m not sure it’s just natural for me.
Should have compared this to looking at the hole during the putt. It would have covered all of the putting methods that change eye focus.
@@l0rdkeithingt0n funny you say that because I did at the same time I did this I did the Jordan Spieth method of looking at the hole as well. But I found that in order to do it effectively, it takes an incredible amount of mental focus. 90% of the time it would be a super effective method, but if you let your focus waiver, just a little bit on your preview perception of where the clubhead is, you could hit one extremely bad. It makes sense that someone with steel trap mental game like Jordan finds it useful. I was exhausted putting that way
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@@FISH-8x8 thx fish
You picked up on the exact same thing I did from that round they played.
This may work. However, I think you have to keep in mind the lie angle of his putter. Being that uprght, it makes sense to go straight back and straight through and watch the putter head. With more of an arc, this may or may not apply
Well done on doing all the tests and the amount of putting. From my review only Bernard Langer does it like Bryson. J Wagner believes you shouldnt keep your head still but does not look at putterhead per se.
Crazy stuff. I wonder how Bryson came up with this?
hit over 200 putts in this test
It’s tough to get any relevance out of this when you’re doing it one after the other.
Good video. I am now wondering how "keeping your eyes on the hole" would compare. Maybe one is better at certain ranges.
What do you think about the heads up putting?
@@sparkerino92 great for 30 feet or farther, but you have to have really good clubhead awareness. Eric alpenfels did a study in this and found from long distance people were More Accurate by looking AT the target
From in close Dave Stockton has people look at a spot on the green about 6 inches past the ball
Is the feel like a pendulum, only your head is part of the pendulum as opposed to the pendulum stopping at your shoulders in a normal head still stroke?
@@richichichi78 you head moves a bit and your eyes move a bit in the sockets. I WOULD not turn your neck as much as the inside of a pendulum .
Gonna try 👍
@@k.b.3832 lmk what u find. Still can’t totally trust it
@@k.b.3832 also short putting is SO MUCH easier on tour quality greens. All other putts much tougher but 4 feet and in is easier
@@BEBETTERGOLF thx for the vid. Very interesting. If Bryson does it he’s done thousands of test on it. lol