I was having trouble doing this on a +20 and seeing your gameplay, you dont do much different to me honestly, I just think you have a really nice group lol and that 1st boss is so much easier if the phases dont last long as they did in my cases.
Yep, in a lot of cases, the difficulty of the dungeon and healing has nothing to do with you and everything to do with your teammates. You actually have relatively low agency as a healer on the success of the key
You've finally gotten me to break away from only playing holy and trying disc (I'm awful at it lmao) but it seems really fun, I'm just struggling massively when someone gets low and I start to panic and I don't know how to get them up quickly or save them and then those precious 1-2 seconds of flailing dominoes into me not healing the others and then we wipe lol. My guildies have been very patient with me learning in keys. I can def FEEL the potential, but it's a 180 to what i'm used to. I know you mentioned before about putting out more in depth S3 guides for disc and holy, do you know if they'll be coming soon? I could use it 😅 also what % is your haste at? I think a part of why I'm struggling is because I'm geared for holy raid so I am ALL crit and mastery right now, i think my haste is like 6% or less
Awesome! Haha, yeah disc can be a big mentality shift from most other healers, but once you get the hang of it it can honestly feel very cozy to play. In many ways, it takes less effort than Holy, because you just do your burst rotation and ignore hp bars for the most part because you know that your HPS is enough to heal past anything. There are exceptions to this of course, but that's how it feels most of the time for me. Yes, now that the need to grind keys is slowing down, my focus is on doing my video guides! Unfortunately I'm leaving town for a delayed Thanksgiving with family which pushes back timelines a little bit, but I have the script written for my M+ Disc guide and will be working on voiceover and editing over the weekend :D In the meantime, if you join the discord, I can just send you the script for a stop-gap written version via discord if you'd like. Your haste is abysmally low, and is undoubtedly why you're having such a hard time! I know that everyone recommends just focusing on item level while gearing as top priority, but disc feels absolutely terrible to play with low haste, especially in keys. I was frustrated and struggling when I started this season with 11% haste, lol I can't imagine how 6% would feel. The goal is around 30-35%, but I am at 21% in the recently posted m+ videos and it's passable. One of the biggest problems with low haste in my opinion is that it feels like ages for your Radiance to finish casting, and people can die in that time frame before you can actually begin your Mindbender burst rotation. I'd recommend trying to get some haste rings, and possibly the neck from Throne of the Tides, and that should fix it for you.
@ragnongaming thank you so much, I'll join the discord after raid tonight :) Yeah the gearing is kind of where I've run into a wall. My crit and master are like 30-40% but I don't have any other gear besides what I've been focusing on for raid and now I feel kind of trapped with it. I'll try to get some rings though and the neck and see if it helps enough to tide (no pun intended) me over until I can get a better m+ specific set of gear. Happy Thanksgiving and enjoy the time with the family!
It’s personal preference, especially with a Mindbender build. It has enough uses for me to feel like it’s worth it, especially for a 1 talent point investment, and I just use it mostly when I need extra oomph and I don’t have pet for whatever reason. It’s definitely more worthwhile if you are running a Shadowfiend build though, as you can get caught without pet much more frequently and it helps give you something to respond with when pet is down.
Hey weird question but what are you using to have the healing numbers appear like that? Is it from the base UI? I've been using MSBT for years and wanna get away from it hah
Good question, I'm not entirely sure. I haven't messed with it intentionally, so I'm not sure if it is modified with Atrocity's AUI ElvUI profile that I'm running, or if it's stock Blizzard. I haven't modified it within AUI, and I'm not finding a setting that it might be in my Blizzard settings.
Not enough probably, lol. Rapture isn’t exceptionally strong, and in my opinion is best used to prep the group with absorb shields for more eHP before a big damage event, or as an efficient way to apply long-duration single target atonements if the group is too spread out to all be reliably hit with Radiance. Outside of those use cases, using Rapture is just less time doing damage, so I don’t feel the need to use it on cooldown, just for the specific situations I feel it would be helpful.
@skamesch No, that's a separate standalone weakaura that you can find here: wago.io/v8G_go4P6 In the description I have a spreadsheet of all of my weakauras and addons too if that's helpful.
I was having trouble doing this on a +20 and seeing your gameplay, you dont do much different to me honestly, I just think you have a really nice group lol and that 1st boss is so much easier if the phases dont last long as they did in my cases.
Yep, in a lot of cases, the difficulty of the dungeon and healing has nothing to do with you and everything to do with your teammates. You actually have relatively low agency as a healer on the success of the key
You've finally gotten me to break away from only playing holy and trying disc (I'm awful at it lmao) but it seems really fun, I'm just struggling massively when someone gets low and I start to panic and I don't know how to get them up quickly or save them and then those precious 1-2 seconds of flailing dominoes into me not healing the others and then we wipe lol. My guildies have been very patient with me learning in keys. I can def FEEL the potential, but it's a 180 to what i'm used to.
I know you mentioned before about putting out more in depth S3 guides for disc and holy, do you know if they'll be coming soon? I could use it 😅 also what % is your haste at? I think a part of why I'm struggling is because I'm geared for holy raid so I am ALL crit and mastery right now, i think my haste is like 6% or less
Awesome! Haha, yeah disc can be a big mentality shift from most other healers, but once you get the hang of it it can honestly feel very cozy to play. In many ways, it takes less effort than Holy, because you just do your burst rotation and ignore hp bars for the most part because you know that your HPS is enough to heal past anything. There are exceptions to this of course, but that's how it feels most of the time for me.
Yes, now that the need to grind keys is slowing down, my focus is on doing my video guides! Unfortunately I'm leaving town for a delayed Thanksgiving with family which pushes back timelines a little bit, but I have the script written for my M+ Disc guide and will be working on voiceover and editing over the weekend :D In the meantime, if you join the discord, I can just send you the script for a stop-gap written version via discord if you'd like.
Your haste is abysmally low, and is undoubtedly why you're having such a hard time! I know that everyone recommends just focusing on item level while gearing as top priority, but disc feels absolutely terrible to play with low haste, especially in keys. I was frustrated and struggling when I started this season with 11% haste, lol I can't imagine how 6% would feel. The goal is around 30-35%, but I am at 21% in the recently posted m+ videos and it's passable. One of the biggest problems with low haste in my opinion is that it feels like ages for your Radiance to finish casting, and people can die in that time frame before you can actually begin your Mindbender burst rotation. I'd recommend trying to get some haste rings, and possibly the neck from Throne of the Tides, and that should fix it for you.
@ragnongaming thank you so much, I'll join the discord after raid tonight :) Yeah the gearing is kind of where I've run into a wall. My crit and master are like 30-40% but I don't have any other gear besides what I've been focusing on for raid and now I feel kind of trapped with it. I'll try to get some rings though and the neck and see if it helps enough to tide (no pun intended) me over until I can get a better m+ specific set of gear. Happy Thanksgiving and enjoy the time with the family!
Clean run
Thanks!
Is it worth taking ultimate penitence?
It’s personal preference, especially with a Mindbender build. It has enough uses for me to feel like it’s worth it, especially for a 1 talent point investment, and I just use it mostly when I need extra oomph and I don’t have pet for whatever reason. It’s definitely more worthwhile if you are running a Shadowfiend build though, as you can get caught without pet much more frequently and it helps give you something to respond with when pet is down.
which spell breaks root instantly? and is that a wa saying empower when someone uses their main cooldown so you can PI?
When running the Phantasm talent in the class tree, fade breaks roots instantly. The PI WeakAura is called “Dibs on PI”
Can you share the WA link ive been searching for days this addons couldnt seem to find it ty !
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@xDead_1 wago.io/f5SA1p-ye
Hey weird question but what are you using to have the healing numbers appear like that? Is it from the base UI? I've been using MSBT for years and wanna get away from it hah
Good question, I'm not entirely sure. I haven't messed with it intentionally, so I'm not sure if it is modified with Atrocity's AUI ElvUI profile that I'm running, or if it's stock Blizzard. I haven't modified it within AUI, and I'm not finding a setting that it might be in my Blizzard settings.
/console floatingCombatTextCombatHealing 1 then you will have for healing
May I ask you how much did you use Rapture during M+ runs?
Not enough probably, lol. Rapture isn’t exceptionally strong, and in my opinion is best used to prep the group with absorb shields for more eHP before a big damage event, or as an efficient way to apply long-duration single target atonements if the group is too spread out to all be reliably hit with Radiance. Outside of those use cases, using Rapture is just less time doing damage, so I don’t feel the need to use it on cooldown, just for the specific situations I feel it would be helpful.
@@ragnongaming Thank you! :)
How do you get your UI like that? Hot damn.
Thanks! It's AUI, an ElvUI profile by Atrocity. I have a video guide on how to set it up from scratch if you're interested!
Sick, could you link? Thanks a lot. @@ragnongaming
@@ragnongamingdoes this UI profile also offer the tint effect during bender? Love that.
@89Brandon08 ua-cam.com/video/gCmjLQXeNbk/v-deo.htmlsi=sUQuNHw-1Gnf7_a8
@skamesch No, that's a separate standalone weakaura that you can find here: wago.io/v8G_go4P6 In the description I have a spreadsheet of all of my weakauras and addons too if that's helpful.
where the hell is your mana bar?
Blue percentage above my health