DO NOT Buy a Mesh Office Chair Until You Watch This
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Some mesh chair problems you can live with, but some will make you want to punch a hole through the mesh.
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Can’t someone just make a video that says “this is the perfect chair” there’s too many options and things to take into account lol
How did robert just punch through an Aeron mesh lol
Magic..haha. How many times did you rewatch it? I think I did about 10 times -Greg
@@btodtv About the same number of times haha. But now it's more obvious in slow-mo
All those cable management reps.
I bench press cable boxes when no one is in the studio - RG
@btodtv I hope Herman Miller doesn't see this and void the warranty 😂
These guys actually punched through a HM Aeron just for the video intro. Now that was cool! 😎
Dang the cheese-grater effect and the cleaning issues are something I haven't thought about yet, spot on vid!
another one: mesh chairs are prone to electrification. Basically if you wobble too much it will strike you. It puts petting a cat on a brand new level when you can strike your loved ones with electricity all day long :(
You just saved me from buying a mesh only chair. I always doubted the concept and the ones I tried didn't sold me on it but I assumed you eventually get used to it. That was before I saw you go through serious practical limitations of mesh seats specifically that will affect me. I have no issues with mesh backrest, but I mesh backrest and cushions seat is the perfect in between.
I love the back mesh idea of contorting to your shoulder blades an all but yeah having rough texture on my bum well hehe
At my office job, i often have to deal with people punching me in the back. After taking this problem to my boss and later HR, They purchased me a kevlar inforced back chair. Now my problem is that my head keeps breaking my monitor.
Wear a kevlar helmet?
Hi, did you hear of the Eureka Ergonomic Typhon chair? It's all mesh with a gaming style for around 600$. I would love to hear your opinion on it, since there aren't many review out there. To understand from someone who knows about chairs if it's worth the money or not. Thanks
500 max. The market is being abused. We should get together, a group of people, maybe internationally in order to combine each countries best resources, and break that open.
One little snag, and you'll start a tear and you'll quickly have a problem in your hands. Mesh is a recipe for disaster in my eyes, and a cheap solution I personally refuse to use.
Mesh is just a merketing hype like Air Jordans in the 80s. You'd better have a very good reason why you actually think you need it before you cough up a kidney to pay for a proper one. Just understand that Mesh will never symbol a quality chair, even though the hype want you to believe it.
Test chairs upon purchase is my advice, because you may be surprised how much marketing mambo jambo is out there.
My back was constantly pressing against the frame of the mesh and now my nerves there are damaged. I have shoulder and arm pain now.
This is the best video for someone who thinks a mesh chair would be a one size fits all solution to all the problems one is facing (which is what i was thinking after watching all the content online)
STOP PUTTING YOUR SHOES ON THE CHAIRS! 🤦♂️
I honestly don't see any upsides to having any mesh on a seat for the consumer. I'm convinced this is a trend that's being forced by corporations because it's far cheaper and easier to manufacture a plastic web than a fabric seat, and they can market them as futuristic to keep prices high and increase margins.
If you want a great and comfortable chair you should be looking for 24-hour certified chairs and not office chairs. These are chairs designed to be sat in for up to 24 hours for long operations shifts, and come with a certification from doctors. A good chair should enable you to sit in multiple different positions as this encourages blood flow, and that's why when you start looking at these kinds of seats you'll immediately notice that none of them use Mesh as it's far too restrictive.
I bought a mesh seat falling for the marketing at first, but instantly returned it as it was inferior in every meaningful way compared to the fabric seat I already owned which cost half as much. As this video highlights they're more inconvenient in practically every way.
Don't fall for this trend.
Right, it’s just not practical sitting in the same position for 8 hours a day without the ability to adjust seat depth and sit cross legged. The mesh is just too firm after a long period of time. I prefer padded cushion seats. As for being inferior I would disagree as there are mesh chairs like the Aeron that can last a long time vs leather cushion seats that goes flat after several months of uses.
I will consider trying those 24 hour seats if I have the budget for it.
I have compared the Aeron and Mirra 2 and am planning to buy the latter from a store that accepts refunds (with a restocking fee). What other chairs would you consider?
@@jhellier the dynamic chiro plus ultimate is what I ended up getting. Superior in every way
Im really interested in vaccum you are using
What about a fabric seat and mesh back like the MotionGray/Autonomous?
Perhaps im weird but i bought a hyken from staples pre covid time and ive had it ever since the armrests kinda went to shit so i took em off and threw them away and then i slapped a mesh lumbar support on the back of the chair and its been good enough ever since .😅
Wouldn't use a mesh chair even if I got it for free tbh.
They definitely aren't for everyone! Thanks for watching - RG
My Steelcase Think V2 has that awful plastic lumbar so I added a pad in between the ribs and the mesh and now it is very comfortable
Loved this vid - super helpful and enjoyable to watch. Was going to buy an all mesh for £110 but I thought why not check and saw others priced around £600-£1000 like you said and wondered why. Now I know ! Thanks!
Easy return policy.
I think Robert purchased all these chairs for this video ans then returned and guided us as well about this easy return policy.
LOL, we don't return anything we buy :) -Greg
I have an Aeron in my home office and am starting to regret getting a mesh chair due to it forcing me to sit a certain way all day. I have an Amia and Leap at my office and find them to be more comfortable for long duration sitting. I like the seat of the Amia and the back of the Leap. If only there was a chair that combined the best traits of both chairs...
this is BTOD they have created a hybrid of those chairs. Just look at their site. Sad thing is, they do not ship to asia
@@zeffmalchazeen3429what is the model of the Steelcase that combines the two?
I agree Mesh chair is not good specially for back. The frame is going to hit back after 2 month of usage depends on body weight....most advertised ergonomic chair comes with mesh. No health benefit, for me its just opposite. Your video will make the people aware of the side effect.
trust me loose mesh hurt thigh really bad.
Let's just appreciate the fact he really punched through the mesh and not just edited the thumbnail.
Robb is STRONG -Greg
so in conclusion: mesh chairs suck unless they're expensive and if you like sitting in various ways
Have you guys considered trying the Hinomi H1 Pro? It's been getting advertised to me a lot and I'd be curious to know your thoughts on it
They have a video on it.
Thanks for vid. I tried and bought 2 mesh chairs from Ikea and returned both. So uncomfortable after long sittings. I need a cushioned chair, I should have realised that after the first chair
Probably get an Ikea Markus or something
Yikes! haha -Greg
Worst chair of all time
Saved me from wasting money, thank you
I’ve found my Mirra 2 very easy to clean. But it collects dust like crazy!
How are you finding it now? I tried both Aeron and Mirra 2 and prefer the latter.
Bro stop thinking too much, that's how you got grey hair.
I run hot but always sit in all sorts of different positions throughout the day 🤣
I live in the tropics. I used my mesh office chair in my birthday suit every day. But, how do you clean the sweat and body oil out of the mesh??? Hot water pressure washing. Yep, fill the reservoir with piping hot water and pressure wash it clean. Sun dry in yhe tropical sun in a few minutes. You're welcome.
Hey guys any tips for a more affordable type of chair? I had a cheap $100 mesh chair which was comfortable but poor build quality the plastic snapped on the backrest after a few months.
I just spend $250 2 days ago to try out an Andaseat gaming chair (first gaming chair) and am not a fan of the racer type chair tbh I think you're paying for style even though its great material and build quality, not the most comfortable, so I'm thinking of sending it back and going with something better for around the same price if possible..
My question is, if you have to pay ALOT for a good mesh chair, gaming chairs are not it either. Is there anything with value for money, like other types of office chairs?
Thanks to anyone in advance!
If a chair starts pulling on my hair, I'm not just gonna punch it. That mf is going out of the window.
Thank you for this informative video.
Been sitting on an Aeron for well over 12 years.... No one likes it in my office..... everyone hates them...
I have a mesh chair from wayfair that is at least 10 years old at this point. Heavy daily use and still sits like its new. I don't think I've used a better chair ever.
I totally agree with this video. I purchased a Mesh chair, not sure what the mfg name of the chair i purchased at Staples. It had a Mesh seat, the mesh started to tear around the seams after 3 months!
ANY low price chair will bring you problems. I have the ThunderX3 XTC and its a lot more confortable than my old gamming chair (roughly same price Alpha Gamer chair), Where i live its hot in the summer, this mesh chair ended the sweating problems, fabric chairs are also tough to clean, resistance of the material depends on quality of material (like in ALL cases). Much more ergonomic and adjustable than the Alpha Gamer.
It has ups and downs like ANY other chair, on MY case: best chair i ever had, improved in every aspect on the Alpha Gamer gamming chair.
@Jimmy-w9l yeah dont buy any "gaming" chair, they suck
got it i dont buy the "new gamng" chair ;D Thanks for ur WORK!
What s the name of that thing on your desk that shows weather and such?
Excellent video. Thanks.
How tall is Robert? Im 193cm and I am afraid I am to tall for the embody chair.
I love your desk setup
dont punch through the mesh it will damage the chair
Wisconsin, eh? I'm out here by LaCrosse! 23 degree low in the fall today LOL
That foam support at the front of the seat had me returning 2 different chairs. I wanted more air circulation in the seat but this seems to be too much of a niche engineering problem to be affordable. Thanks for clarifying the issues!
I got a Branch chair and it came defective. They charged me to return it. The seat also felt cheap- cushion hit the base right away. Never getting anything from Branch
This is a nice reminder to always check return policies. Hope you find a chair you like a lot better! - RG
Has anyone tried the Hinomi H1 v3 classic? Looks like it has what I want but can’t find any reviews on it.
Have you bought it at the end. Same question about it
Actually all those mentioned points made me rethink about my next chair decision. I was heavily leaning towards mesh chairs, but problems with hitting the frame and cleaning and the varying quality of mesh firmness... now I wanna stay away from mesh completely!
Same, not one other review ever mentioned that because they are all sponsored garbage unlike this video
What about the FlexiSpot OC3B?
I need the bottom of the mesh chair to have a cutout for my unit. Are there any like that?
Yes their few good chairs out their i wouldn't recommend budget ones due to lasting long me personally i would say hm aeron i had mine over 2 years being able to sit gaming for 6 hours maybe longer if im not at work these go for over £900 but others might say budget ones or the Sihoo i tried both budget chairs & Sihoo budget ones are okay for short period of time now let's talk Sihoo this did do wonders on my back but suffering arthritis in my legs it tend to hurt badly the next day only sitting an hour or two thanks to sitting in it the day beforehand, My personal experience would be hm any really their comfy / steelcase their amazing aswel but personally that's me other chairs fit different people inc pains in back or legs height of person & chair itself honestly i recommend trying before buying some are comfy from little of £100 to 2k me i found more money spent more you'll get from being comfortable whilst gaming & working
Name of the keyboard at 2:30 🙏🏽
I would have loved to see more about the top crossbar, not only about left and right frames, especially for people like me who would call Robert "small".
Thankyou for this Video, I was about to buy one online then I thought why not watch A video on mesh office chairs or comparisons. And now I am making an educated purchase. I'm not a big spender on chairs but I would definitely follow your advice before making a purchase.
What do you guys think of the autonomous ergochair pro plus?
thanks a bunch!
Omg
10/10 thumbnail
These aren't for everyone, but all that matters is that it's perfect for me.
Low end mesh chairs can definitely put one off from ever buying a high end mesh chair, but the difference is honestly night and day.
I hated mesh chairs before I got the Aeron, and was I strongly considering the Embody or Leap v2.
But the Aeron is awesome, and it's helped improve my productivity immensely.
You might still like the Leap :) Good to see you back in the comment section! -Greg
@btodtv Haha, maybe I can get that as a secondary chair for my office when I'm console gaming, perhaps?
didnt they already make this video? running out of ideas?
Thanks for watching all of our content. I wish more of our audience went as deep into our library as you!
Yes, we have created a similar video. But as you can imagine, things were missed in the last one, so we added quite a bit more information to the new video.
Additionally, we talk about products on our channel and new products come out all the time. This means that something may have changed in the category or there are better solutions to problems that may have existed before.
Either way, when we make a similar video, we always bring more value than the previous one.
-Greg
@@btodtv its cool.I got really into chairs when looking for one and your channel was the best out there. Watched a lot of your stuff, but gotta say losing interest a little now. Still keep it up and great content!
The best place for me 0:54
This is like a bad infomercial for Steelcase!
Weird take, but I'll just assume you view most things in life in a negative way like this. That is unfortunate, but understandable in the world we currently live in. I'll help though...
This was a GREAT video that brings to light things that most don't consider when choosing what type of chair they want.
If anything, this is an informational video that the title would suggest it's in favor of all non-mesh office chairs. Yet Robert states one of his favorite chairs is a mesh office chair within the first 15 seconds...
-Greg
Doesn't Steelcase literally make a mesh chair?
i found this to late...
Just don't punch a hole in it and resell it haha
Lol