I was impressed with Essendon in the Anzac day clash. There was a period when the Pies piled on the pressure and Essendon got fumbly but they managed to pull it together and ramp up their own pressure to stay in it after that. They look to have backed that up with their win over GWS who also got hold of them early.
What impressed me with the Anzac Day game is that exactly what happened last week with port vs Collingwood was about to happen again but Essendon kept fighting and didn’t give up, they’re a genuinely competitive team
@@Comatosedpeanutagreed but if Essendon play well and pies play bad and still manage to get a draw, then there is plenty of upside for the pies next time they meet. Time will tell
@@Jameschristou93the rankings aren’t a stat. The rankings are a subjective opinion based on choosing which stats they view as important and which ones less so. It’s valuing certain stats over other stats. It’a not just a recounting of data - it’s an opinion.
Don't discount the psychological aspect of the game, so Bombers have generally gone in as the underdog, so subconsciously the other team think they'll win, now we will go into more games af favs, so the other team will absolutely bring their A game.
Except that their finals record is terrible. Only two years ago they rolled over like lil sooks to the 2nd biggest GF loss in history. So ya know, enjoy May, Swans will no doubt gargle-gurgle in September.
@@tin-n-tan Swans were kids back then and made the GF way before they expected to. They were the third youngest team in the league. Now, though, you can see how they break tackles, how they swarm teams with pressure and how many options they have going forward. Casual opinion by you.
Pies have made more changes than you would think in Murphy's absence Cameron pushing back more and being able to because we force opposition to attack slower than we did last year is part of it
We’ve also lacked that second tall forward with McStay out until finals (if we make it). If we had him against the Saints & Swans if would of been a lot closer. To top it off we now have Miochek, Elliot, Howe, McReery, De Goey & Mitchell all out
So do you have to be top 4 in defensive profile in order to win a premiership or finish top 4 on the ladder? He talked about Essendon as if they are still irrelevant due to not being the best (statistical) defence in the competition
He's good, I wouldn't say he's underrated, most Bombers fans know he's good. He can be average with disposals, he rushes kicks and can turn over often.
Stellar form? He’s averaging career worst stats at 68% efficiency man. He has been pretty bloody ordinary if I’m being honest. In saying that he has gotten better defensively but he’s still a butcher of the pill
How does Sydney not bottom out? People say it's the academy advantage and partially that unique home ground? Of course Geelong doesn't bottom out either, helped by a unique home ground as well. But is Geelong's time finally arriving soon, given all the over 30's?
Sydney has been helped MASSIVELY by their academy and extra $$$. Geelong is helped MASSIVELY by the lifestyle they can sell plus 1-2 of the best players in the league being born around the corner. Both have found their advantage and both exploit it.
@@tin-n-tan Shall we go through the advantages every other club has? Specifically the Victorian clubs outside of Geelong? You wanna talk Collingwood and Carlton for handouts chief?? Please.
@@tin-n-tan It's a very naive and tired argument that makes you look stupid. Where is the extra $$$? COLA hasnt been included for 11 years. Warner was pick 39. Errol was pick 32. Swans have no father/sons, and no homesick go home factor.
He should go. No guarantee North will ever turn it around. A player like Judd McVee from the 2022 draft might have already played in more wins than Sheezel and Wardlaw will in 300 games for North. We have never before had a side so bad they could get 8 goals start every game and still miss the finals. And if they do eventually turn it around, Zurhaar might be the next Nathan Jones and not get a gig in the big dance.
@@danielmaher7558 9 rounds is not deep enough into the season draw Universal supremacy judgements. It was only a couple of weeks ago that the Cats were unbeaten and on top of the ladder with 6 wins. Teams like Carlton have had the hardest draw in the opening 9 rounds and are 6/3 with a slightly easier run home. Swans are looking okay so far but their systems are elite and are always a chance. It's a week to week litmus test for every team in a very even competition. I can think of 5 teams that would clean up the Swans in the finals if they were held next week. The Swans are NOT miles ahead of the competition. Sometimes the two best teams don't make it to the Grand Final. In 2022 the Swans were embarrassed by the Cats in a one-sided circus show. I suppose the corporately run sporting media needs a headline each week and transient sensationalism is what they do best. (were you paying attention during the Pandemic? Did you see what happened?)
@@tb7667 that’s not like the swans. Against the Tigers, Gulfden and Papley didnt touch the ball in the first 5 quarters. It’s a long season. The Swans know how to make finals
Sydney Sooks will never be the best team unless and until they stand up on the biggest stage. They've been over-hyped so many times before only to be exposed in GFs as not tough enough. Heeney (as was Hanners) is totally overrated and soft as butter in GFs. When Heeney stands up in a GF, then i'll revisit this opinion. Until then, i am done listening to this media-spin BS!
@@MaxindifferenceLmao every year I hear this same rubbish about these poverty SA clubs actually winning something and I’m yet to see it within the last 15 years. Do you guys ever learn or are you happy with 4th place?
@@Maxindifference Pies. You know the team that won the flag last year? The one that smacked port by 40+ whilst being down 30 at one stage. Port and Crows are utterly embarrassing. Yeah Port had a good win on the weekend but that’s only because Geelong were asleep until half time. They nearly choked another 50 point lead in a space of 2 quarters
Hoyne resisting to say "if you like" (Y)
I was impressed with Essendon in the Anzac day clash. There was a period when the Pies piled on the pressure and Essendon got fumbly but they managed to pull it together and ramp up their own pressure to stay in it after that. They look to have backed that up with their win over GWS who also got hold of them early.
What impressed me with the Anzac Day game is that exactly what happened last week with port vs Collingwood was about to happen again but Essendon kept fighting and didn’t give up, they’re a genuinely competitive team
Collingwood played pretty average in that Anzac Day game, were extremely lucky not to lose.
@@Comatosedpeanutagreed but if Essendon play well and pies play bad and still manage to get a draw, then there is plenty of upside for the pies next time they meet. Time will tell
Pies should have easily won that game just bad goal kicking..kept ess in it
@@kegmystayeah right lol
Still wondering how Hoyne can have Merrett as the 70th best player in the comp?
It’s a stat thing based on numbers. His just the voice of it.
@@Jameschristou93shows you shouldn’t take too much notice of stats
@@bernierossi8062 shows you don't understand how important statistics are
@@Jameschristou93the rankings aren’t a stat.
The rankings are a subjective opinion based on choosing which stats they view as important and which ones less so. It’s valuing certain stats over other stats.
It’a not just a recounting of data - it’s an opinion.
@@goldboy150 What youve said is so incorrect its not funny. How have you come to this conclusion
Don't discount the psychological aspect of the game, so Bombers have generally gone in as the underdog, so subconsciously the other team think they'll win, now we will go into more games af favs, so the other team will absolutely bring their A game.
Love your work boys, keep it coming ❤️
Damn almost like Hodgey was right the other day when he said Swans were the team to beat.
Except that their finals record is terrible. Only two years ago they rolled over like lil sooks to the 2nd biggest GF loss in history.
So ya know, enjoy May, Swans will no doubt gargle-gurgle in September.
@@tin-n-tan they're talking about right now in season 2024. Two years is a long time in football.
@@tin-n-tan Swans were kids back then and made the GF way before they expected to. They were the third youngest team in the league. Now, though, you can see how they break tackles, how they swarm teams with pressure and how many options they have going forward.
Casual opinion by you.
@@tin-n-tan you do realise they had to win 2/3 finals before that yeah?
@@tin-n-tanYeah mate, making a grand final with an extremely young side is so terrible!
Hoyney replaced “if you like” with “you know” after some feedback
Always love when hoyney come on! Keep up the good work!!
Love this insight
Florent playing well uncontested due to upfield pressure forcing inaccurate or chaos kicks. Oli’s bread and butter!
This the perfect show to cure insomnia 👌
Kane is right about Max Holmes, Cats fan here and he aint an inside mid at all. Doesnt like the bash n crash
Another Cats fan, n couldn't agree more. Don't try n make him into something he aint
If you like
He had to catch himself a few times. Is improving
Who cares if he stutters he’s new to the media and isn’t there for his commentary, he’s there to relay stats and information.
Pies have made more changes than you would think in Murphy's absence
Cameron pushing back more and being able to because we force opposition to attack slower than we did last year is part of it
We’ve also lacked that second tall forward with McStay out until finals (if we make it). If we had him against the Saints & Swans if would of been a lot closer. To top it off we now have Miochek, Elliot, Howe, McReery, De Goey & Mitchell all out
I agree on Max King. Doesn't look like he wants to be out there
So do you have to be top 4 in defensive profile in order to win a premiership or finish top 4 on the ladder? He talked about Essendon as if they are still irrelevant due to not being the best (statistical) defence in the competition
not fair to judge sides on statistics at this point of the season..wait till everyone has played everyone then the picture becomes a bit clearer
Hoyne still sounds salty about Collingwood winning the premiership last year.
Hoyne really needs to learn how to pronounce Petracca (Peh-TRAH-kah) like CAR - not TRACK-ah
Parish very underrated player. His stellar form has been key to Bombers recent success.
He's good, I wouldn't say he's underrated, most Bombers fans know he's good. He can be average with disposals, he rushes kicks and can turn over often.
Really added to his defensive game this year. Good to see
Stellar form? He’s averaging career worst stats at 68% efficiency man. He has been pretty bloody ordinary if I’m being honest. In saying that he has gotten better defensively but he’s still a butcher of the pill
I love it when Hoyne gets the shits up when Korn poohs poohs his ideas. No matter what you think of Korn as a player he played 300 more games than you
I like Korn
Merrett is clearly top 5! Essendon isn’t in the position they are without him.
How does Sydney not bottom out? People say it's the academy advantage and partially that unique home ground? Of course Geelong doesn't bottom out either, helped by a unique home ground as well. But is Geelong's time finally arriving soon, given all the over 30's?
Perhaps smart coaching and high quality development teams?
Its called recruiting, try it out.
Sydney has been helped MASSIVELY by their academy and extra $$$.
Geelong is helped MASSIVELY by the lifestyle they can sell plus 1-2 of the best players in the league being born around the corner.
Both have found their advantage and both exploit it.
@@tin-n-tan Shall we go through the advantages every other club has? Specifically the Victorian clubs outside of Geelong? You wanna talk Collingwood and Carlton for handouts chief?? Please.
@@tin-n-tan It's a very naive and tired argument that makes you look stupid. Where is the extra $$$? COLA hasnt been included for 11 years. Warner was pick 39. Errol was pick 32. Swans have no father/sons, and no homesick go home factor.
They're talking about zurhaar as ig he is guaranteed to leave.
He should go. No guarantee North will ever turn it around. A player like Judd McVee from the 2022 draft might have already played in more wins than Sheezel and Wardlaw will in 300 games for North. We have never before had a side so bad they could get 8 goals start every game and still miss the finals. And if they do eventually turn it around, Zurhaar might be the next Nathan Jones and not get a gig in the big dance.
Not miles ahead of the Tigers
ladder buddy
id say 1st and 17th is miles ahead but eh
@@danielmaher7558 9 rounds is not deep enough into the season draw Universal supremacy judgements.
It was only a couple of weeks ago that the Cats were unbeaten and on top of the ladder with 6 wins.
Teams like Carlton have had the hardest draw in the opening 9 rounds and are 6/3 with a slightly easier run home. Swans are looking okay so far but their systems are elite and are always a chance. It's a week to week litmus test for every team in a very even competition.
I can think of 5 teams that would clean up the Swans in the finals if they were held next week. The Swans are NOT miles ahead of the competition. Sometimes the two best teams don't make it to the Grand Final. In 2022 the Swans were embarrassed by the Cats in a one-sided circus show.
I suppose the corporately run sporting media needs a headline each week and transient sensationalism is what they do best. (were you paying attention during the Pandemic? Did you see what happened?)
There was clearly something going on internally that week with the Wicks thing.
@@tb7667 that’s not like the swans.
Against the Tigers, Gulfden and Papley didnt touch the ball in the first 5 quarters.
It’s a long season. The Swans know how to make finals
Daniel Hoyne looks like he took a picture of Frankie Boyle into a plastic surgeon
Sydney Sooks will never be the best team unless and until they stand up on the biggest stage. They've been over-hyped so many times before only to be exposed in GFs as not tough enough. Heeney (as was Hanners) is totally overrated and soft as butter in GFs. When Heeney stands up in a GF, then i'll revisit this opinion. Until then, i am done listening to this media-spin BS!
I’m Daniel Hoyne’s biggest hater
Ya know
"Ya know" 👎🙄
This is crap. Power and Crows are underrated big time
You’re right both are crap, won’t be doing anything again this year
@@Snappernose we’ll see
@@MaxindifferenceLmao every year I hear this same rubbish about these poverty SA clubs actually winning something and I’m yet to see it within the last 15 years. Do you guys ever learn or are you happy with 4th place?
@@hg55685 And what club tickles your fancy, Nancy
@@Maxindifference Pies. You know the team that won the flag last year? The one that smacked port by 40+ whilst being down 30 at one stage. Port and Crows are utterly embarrassing. Yeah Port had a good win on the weekend but that’s only because Geelong were asleep until half time. They nearly choked another 50 point lead in a space of 2 quarters