In the Mapuche language, 'Mapu' means land and 'che' means human, so 'Mapuche' stands for 'people of the land.'The Spanish came to this region around 1540, but they never managed to successfully conquer the Mapuche people. Although the Spanish had more modern weapons, the Mapuche used their knowledge of their land and other clever military tactics to their advantage. The most famous Mapuche leader was Lautaro who lived in the 16th century AD. He had been captured by the Spanish and became a servant to the Conquistador Pedro de Valdivia. During his captivity he carefully observed his enemies and learned about Spanish warfare. After Lautaro managed to escape in 1540, he lead his Mapuche army all the way up to the gates of Santiago, capturing and killing the Spanish leader Valdivia. It is said that Lautaro invented guerrilla warfare, a military tactic that would be used in many future South American wars.
don't know about the other stuff you taller about, but guerrilla warfare exist since man tried to kill each other XD so no, he didn't invent guerrilla warfare
Yes, Mapuche resistance is legendary, but it hasn't done anything to improve the lot of the Mapuche people or the people of European and other heritage who live among and around them. Adjusting to the modern era is hard enough without violence. There's no way to go back to an earlier age of subsistence methods. The Mapuche will be forever impoverished and unable to defend themselves adequately until they take on modern agricultural practices and stop letting the land lay fallow that they win back by destroying businesses, farms, homes and lives. Until they use it to create economic wealth for themselves, there will always be efforts to use it to generate wealth for someone else.
Ever since the Spanish invasion, the Mapuche people, as well as ALL indigenous in Chile groups have been subject to land theft, persecution, imprisonment, exploitation and destruction of their culture, language, religious beliefs and way of life. All these people are doing is reclaim that which is rightfully theirs. They have resorted to the legal system to no avail, they have formed alliances with whomever helped them (fortunate and unfortunate alliances). They have never given up, in spite of the overwhelming forces pitted against them during 500 years. The solution is not easy, but there has to be a will before anything happens, and then the road will be slow, changing society's perceptions, prejudices and ignorance in respect to others who live differently.
@@DaGubah501 As of now, the Mapuche are becoming the lions... Social processes are not detained through force and lies or violence. Nobody said it would be easy.
the stealing of lands happened before the chilean independence, when the spanish colonial government in south america is looking for european immigrants, they offered the land as reward/gift if they will migrate in south america to work for plantations and additional europeanizing the population of the continent and how they rise and try to take it back since the colonial period times after when chile had it's independence in 1819
I didn't know Chile is this problematic! I wonder what they did with my islander brothers in Easter Island? Go Mapuche nation, take your lands back! Love from Indonesia
😂 Chile no se regala a pueblos de otros territorios que asesinaron a los aymaras y otros pueblos para quedarse en el sur de Chile. Ellos son de la patagonia y reciben bonos y becas gratis en cambio el chileno no
if you are a concerned indonesian please help you west papuan neighbours as they are being occupied, robbed and exterminated by the indonesian government in a most evil way right now.......
@Grandpa joe Colonization doesn't end with time. Just because Chile colonized the Mapuche people and stole their lands hundreds of years ago, it doesn't mean colonization has no relevance today. Anyways, UN law gives Occupied people the right to resist their occupiers. So what if the Mapuche people commit heinous acts, would you be against Native resistance in the America because the Natives killed innocent settlers and children? I hope not.
@Grandpa joe I’m glad you’re honest. You sympathize with the settlers. By your words, The Mapuches should act accordingly and kick rock on their aspirational goals of decolonization. They should unite but on our terms. LMAO, the Mapuche people know this.They have used dialogue but haven’t received any results.
there is an interesting chilean movie called Machuca, it is not about this specifically but shows how chilean dictatorship and society treated indigenous people
En 1909 el arqueólogo austriaco Osvaldo Menghin propuso que los mapuche se habrían originado en la Amazonía y que habrían emigrado, pasando por el centro de Argentina y cruzando la cordillera de los Andes. Su hipótesis se sustentaba en los rasgos culturales, semejantes a los de un subgrupo de la Amazonía.
Cuahutleko ,estos son angeles de luz caidos del cielo.son una bendicion para el pais y el estado opresor no los deja que hagan sus ceremonias pacificas de robos y quemas al por mayor y personas vivas. Estos derechos no son respetAdos por el estado.los mapu hes tienen derechos a disparar balas de verdad y la policia balas de goma.no respetan sus derechos a vivir de parasito y destruir lo que otro.s construyen.estado opresor
This kind of treatment of the people with no power or money is universal whether in the mountains the forest or the city those with will always take advantage of those without greed is an ugly thing, people with hungry eyes will always want more. This has to stop...
The south belong to Chile. The Europeans out populate them, the minority Mapuches don't need independence when they are just a minority of their once land that they had hundreds of years ago. It's been hundreds of years, give up.
The Mapuche territories were invaded and turned to European agricultural and economic methods because the Germans and other Europeans had to leave their homelands to escape oppression there. The Mapuche desire to live according to an ideology of land use from an earlier world will not work for the people around them. There are too many people in the world for hunter-gatherer, subsistence methods to support the world. Back in those days, medical care was very limited and infant mortality was very high. No one wants to go back to those days, but there is no willingness to face the reality that modern medicine and the economic system that supports it depend on land being much more productive economically than traditional Mapuche land use practices allows for. Change is hard for everyone, but the past is not a place we can go to to avoid the problems before us. The past is an idea. Some of the things we learned from the past can help us sort out the present, but we cannot live in the present as we did in the past. The present has different issues we need to deal with. Our religions and beliefs, our God, our spiritual practices and experiences can help us solve our difficulties, but moving backwards only makes problems worse. The Mapuche need to take on the new economic system. They can't make the outsiders go back to Europe. If things had been good enough, they would have stayed there to begin with. They can try to separate from Chile and form their own country, but if they don't develop themselves economically, they won't be able to protect themselves. There is no realistic solution but to take on the modern economic system or let others take it on and be the poorest cog in the machine, like they have done so far.
The way you're talking, you'd think industrial capitalism is a force of nature, that it's inevitable. But if you look at history, people have had to resort to incredibly flimsy, unsustainable and oppressive means to build, spread and maintain this socioeconomic mode of being. Means like slavery, biochemical warfare, forced reeducation and permanent depletion of our planet's natural resources. You talk about how these systems depend on the land being "much more productive". This form of "productivity" will render our planet uninhabitable by humans in the next few generations if we don't radically change it from the ground up (and quick). It's dangerous to talk about global capitalism like it's the only way. Additionally, your argument is positively brimming with classic racist settler mentality. I'm not calling you racist as much as I'm pointing out the racism in your assertions. You seem pretty eager to tell a bunch of strangers that white people got it right and that these natives need to get with the program. That sounds like the kind of indoctrination most of us grow up with in the US and other "Western" nations. It sounds a lot like manifest destiny, the way you're talking about it this stuff. You're not the first person to make the kinds of arguments you're making. This line of "reasoning" has been used to excuse countless unforgivable atrocities. I'm not interested in starting a drawn out argument. I can't cure anyone of bigoted biases, as much as I'd like to. It's up to you to fix yourself. However, I'd like to try something in good faith. Salty, maybe, but ultimately based on the assumption that you, like me and everyone else, are a complex person with value, worthy of compassion and the benefit of the doubt. I'd like to pose some questions. Not because I want the answers, but because I'd like to invite you to introspect, to ask these questions of yourself. Bigotry is insidious. It can be very subtle and hard to notice in yourself. But it will always hurt you and those in your life, even when you gain from it materially. So try to take these questions in good faith, because I don't want to tear you or anyone else down (as much your comment angers and saddens me). Why do you feel qualified to say how the Mapuche should live? Why do you feel your way is better? Why do you assume that industrial capitalism is moving forwards? How do you define progress? Do you know about the concept of manifest destiny and its historical consequences? Why are you framing the argument in terms of what will work for the entire world? Why do you act like the Mapuche's way of life has to be good enough for the whole world, when this is an issue of a specific group of people in a specific place? Why in the entire actual fuck do you assume that the Mapuche are hunter-gatherers, when their traditional economy is based on agriculture? Are you just lumping them in with other indigenous societies? If so, why? Why do you assume the Mapuche refuse to accept to the changes forced upon them, when history shows how they've adopted and adapted to so many aspects of European technology, military strategy and economy? You refer to the complexity of this conflict. Did you learn of this complexity by consulting different accounts of the struggle from various perspectives? Or did you assume that it's a complex situation without knowing what specifically makes this conflict complex? Can you imagine how it might feel to live you day to day life knowing that people you love are being tortured? Is there any rationale that can justify putting actual people, as complex and important as you, in those kinds of situations? Is there any rationale that can justify a socioeconomic system that directly depends on this kind of brutal oppression to exist? What is worth torturing a person over? What's worth killing a person? You seem like somebody who's concerned with the world's problems. This is a good impulse, one that can inspire positive change. Lord knows we need every bit of that we can get these days. But right now, the things you're saying are harmfully regressive. Please try to examine what you learn more critically before publicly spouting nonsense about incredibly serious and tragic issues. This concludes my essay. All the best. I don't expect to come back this way, but I really hope you can do what it takes to let go of the poisonous old ideas that got us here. For you own sake and the world's.
23:30 ni siquiera tienen claro sus exigencias, son solo un grupo de gente que quiere tierra, que idiotez hacerles caso y mandar a la mierda 200 años de república.
Here you will see, the hipocresy of a people that want huge pieces of land, but they don't want to work it nor farming it, they want freedom and peace but don't have the reasources, the institutions nor even the unity to do it a constant struggle among themselves, . For 200 years they were ignorant enough to not coexist with other people or mix they choose the wrong path, they despise huinca (foreing) culture but when they are sick, they cried for help and doctors, when there is droguht they deamnd food, economic help from the same state they despised. Don't get me wrong vast mayority of Chilean populartion have some "araucano" blood (pichunche, pehuenche,huilliche,puelche and mapuche. It is not the strongest of the species that survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change
what a shameless and despicable attempt to justify land theft from an indigenous people . these people are hunters , it is their territory . when you take their land , you push them into poverty. european settlers had no right to use violence to take the land . check your moral values .
In the Mapuche language, 'Mapu' means land and 'che' means human, so 'Mapuche' stands for 'people of the land.'The Spanish came to this region around 1540, but they never managed to successfully conquer the Mapuche people. Although the Spanish had more modern weapons, the Mapuche used their knowledge of their land and other clever military tactics to their advantage. The most famous Mapuche leader was Lautaro who lived in the 16th century AD. He had been captured by the Spanish and became a servant to the Conquistador Pedro de Valdivia. During his captivity he carefully observed his enemies and learned about Spanish warfare. After Lautaro managed to escape in 1540, he lead his Mapuche army all the way up to the gates of Santiago, capturing and killing the Spanish leader Valdivia. It is said that Lautaro invented guerrilla warfare, a military tactic that would be used in many future South American wars.
interesting!
don't know about the other stuff you taller about, but guerrilla warfare exist since man tried to kill each other XD so no, he didn't invent guerrilla warfare
@@MrGabiiiii94 He kind of did since it didn't exist in South America or know anything about it before.
Yes, Mapuche resistance is legendary, but it hasn't done anything to improve the lot of the Mapuche people or the people of European and other heritage who live among and around them. Adjusting to the modern era is hard enough without violence. There's no way to go back to an earlier age of subsistence methods. The Mapuche will be forever impoverished and unable to defend themselves adequately until they take on modern agricultural practices and stop letting the land lay fallow that they win back by destroying businesses, farms, homes and lives. Until they use it to create economic wealth for themselves, there will always be efforts to use it to generate wealth for someone else.
Amazing!!
Ever since the Spanish invasion, the Mapuche people, as well as ALL indigenous in Chile groups have been subject to land theft, persecution, imprisonment, exploitation and destruction of their culture, language, religious beliefs and way of life. All these people are doing is reclaim that which is rightfully theirs. They have resorted to the legal system to no avail, they have formed alliances with whomever helped them (fortunate and unfortunate alliances). They have never given up, in spite of the overwhelming forces pitted against them during 500 years. The solution is not easy, but there has to be a will before anything happens, and then the road will be slow, changing society's perceptions, prejudices and ignorance in respect to others who live differently.
Mapuches DO NOT OWN that land, nobody does: Lions eat the vulnerable in the wild kingdom, that’s life!
@@DaGubah501 As of now, the Mapuche are becoming the lions... Social processes are not detained through force and lies or violence. Nobody said it would be easy.
Today the doing similar action burning houses truckers shooting to people usurping countrysades atacking farmers and mapuche etnia too!
@@javiermerrill7194 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Native american people need to fight for their rights !
+Elias Sow We are.
cinnireseisri keep doing that ! Never stop ! One day there will be equality for all people
yeah use violence to buy land!
This story reminds me of the same thing that was done to Native Americans.
They are native Americans
They are Americans from the south !
They died mostly of diseses not by settlers and they came from russia during ice age. so its hard go say if they ar native or ho is
the stealing of lands happened before the chilean independence, when the spanish colonial government in south america is looking for european immigrants, they offered the land as reward/gift if they will migrate in south america to work for plantations and additional europeanizing the population of the continent and how they rise and try to take it back since the colonial period times after when chile had it's independence in 1819
they are also native americans as well, but they are in south america instead of north
I didn't know Chile is this problematic! I wonder what they did with my islander brothers in Easter Island?
Go Mapuche nation, take your lands back! Love from Indonesia
😂 Chile no se regala a pueblos de otros territorios que asesinaron a los aymaras y otros pueblos para quedarse en el sur de Chile. Ellos son de la patagonia y reciben bonos y becas gratis en cambio el chileno no
@@cristobal5213 Spanish were very organized
The whole world is problematic & so unbelievable beautiful too ❤️ CHOOSE peace ✌🏻 and CHOOSE to be happy 😊
if you are a concerned indonesian please help you west papuan neighbours as they are being occupied, robbed and exterminated by the indonesian government in a most evil way right now.......
Si mi amor , Go😂
15:40 Fighting the Occupiers isn't terrorism, the Mapuches are acting in self-defense.
@Grandpa joe Colonization doesn't end with time. Just because Chile colonized the Mapuche people and stole their lands hundreds of years ago, it doesn't mean colonization has no relevance today.
Anyways, UN law gives Occupied people the right to resist their occupiers. So what if the Mapuche people commit heinous acts, would you be against Native resistance in the America because the Natives killed innocent settlers and children? I hope not.
@Grandpa joe I’m glad you’re honest. You sympathize with the settlers. By your words, The Mapuches should act accordingly and kick rock on their aspirational goals of decolonization. They should unite but on our terms. LMAO, the Mapuche people know this.They have used dialogue but haven’t received any results.
@Grandpa joe The Mapuche people could careless who owns their stolen property. Lmao, if you’re on their land, you’re part of the problem.
there is an interesting chilean movie called Machuca, it is not about this specifically but shows how chilean dictatorship and society treated indigenous people
It's simple the man with the police protection is a Español settler.
En 1909 el arqueólogo austriaco Osvaldo Menghin propuso que los mapuche se habrían originado en la Amazonía y que habrían emigrado, pasando por el centro de Argentina y cruzando la cordillera de los Andes. Su hipótesis se sustentaba en los rasgos culturales, semejantes a los de un subgrupo de la Amazonía.
Si no eres mapuche, no tienes voz ni derecho, a ningún reclamo que te haya propuesto un winka.
Anyway they have lived there much much longer than sadistic spanish.
Hernan Melinau dejanos saber como ayudarte. Te apoyamos hermano de Mexico y Estados Unidos.
Cuahutleko ,estos son angeles de luz caidos del cielo.son una bendicion para el pais y el estado opresor no los deja que hagan sus ceremonias pacificas de robos y quemas al por mayor y personas vivas. Estos derechos no son respetAdos por el estado.los mapu hes tienen derechos a disparar balas de verdad y la policia balas de goma.no respetan sus derechos a vivir de parasito y destruir lo que otro.s construyen.estado opresor
This kind of treatment of the people with no power or money is universal whether in the mountains the forest or the city those with will always take advantage of those without greed is an ugly thing, people with hungry eyes will always want more.
This has to stop...
Wallmapu land
Esas tierras son chilenas aunque te duela
Doesnt exist
The landowner is a good guy...
Democratic Apartheid American state.
@Shawn Deagan Exactly separate but not equal. Western democracies bread and butter. :(
The south belong to Chile. The Europeans out populate them, the minority Mapuches don't need independence when they are just a minority of their once land that they had hundreds of years ago. It's been hundreds of years, give up.
Free Wallmapu! These settlers can go back to Europe because they don't belong here!
Always outgunned!
The Mapuche territories were invaded and turned to European agricultural and economic methods because the Germans and other Europeans had to leave their homelands to escape oppression there. The Mapuche desire to live according to an ideology of land use from an earlier world will not work for the people around them. There are too many people in the world for hunter-gatherer, subsistence methods to support the world. Back in those days, medical care was very limited and infant mortality was very high. No one wants to go back to those days, but there is no willingness to face the reality that modern medicine and the economic system that supports it depend on land being much more productive economically than traditional Mapuche land use practices allows for. Change is hard for everyone, but the past is not a place we can go to to avoid the problems before us. The past is an idea. Some of the things we learned from the past can help us sort out the present, but we cannot live in the present as we did in the past. The present has different issues we need to deal with. Our religions and beliefs, our God, our spiritual practices and experiences can help us solve our difficulties, but moving backwards only makes problems worse. The Mapuche need to take on the new economic system. They can't make the outsiders go back to Europe. If things had been good enough, they would have stayed there to begin with. They can try to separate from Chile and form their own country, but if they don't develop themselves economically, they won't be able to protect themselves. There is no realistic solution but to take on the modern economic system or let others take it on and be the poorest cog in the machine, like they have done so far.
The way you're talking, you'd think industrial capitalism is a force of nature, that it's inevitable. But if you look at history, people have had to resort to incredibly flimsy, unsustainable and oppressive means to build, spread and maintain this socioeconomic mode of being. Means like slavery, biochemical warfare, forced reeducation and permanent depletion of our planet's natural resources. You talk about how these systems depend on the land being "much more productive". This form of "productivity" will render our planet uninhabitable by humans in the next few generations if we don't radically change it from the ground up (and quick). It's dangerous to talk about global capitalism like it's the only way.
Additionally, your argument is positively brimming with classic racist settler mentality. I'm not calling you racist as much as I'm pointing out the racism in your assertions. You seem pretty eager to tell a bunch of strangers that white people got it right and that these natives need to get with the program. That sounds like the kind of indoctrination most of us grow up with in the US and other "Western" nations. It sounds a lot like manifest destiny, the way you're talking about it this stuff. You're not the first person to make the kinds of arguments you're making. This line of "reasoning" has been used to excuse countless unforgivable atrocities.
I'm not interested in starting a drawn out argument. I can't cure anyone of bigoted biases, as much as I'd like to. It's up to you to fix yourself. However, I'd like to try something in good faith. Salty, maybe, but ultimately based on the assumption that you, like me and everyone else, are a complex person with value, worthy of compassion and the benefit of the doubt. I'd like to pose some questions. Not because I want the answers, but because I'd like to invite you to introspect, to ask these questions of yourself. Bigotry is insidious. It can be very subtle and hard to notice in yourself. But it will always hurt you and those in your life, even when you gain from it materially. So try to take these questions in good faith, because I don't want to tear you or anyone else down (as much your comment angers and saddens me).
Why do you feel qualified to say how the Mapuche should live? Why do you feel your way is better? Why do you assume that industrial capitalism is moving forwards? How do you define progress? Do you know about the concept of manifest destiny and its historical consequences? Why are you framing the argument in terms of what will work for the entire world? Why do you act like the Mapuche's way of life has to be good enough for the whole world, when this is an issue of a specific group of people in a specific place? Why in the entire actual fuck do you assume that the Mapuche are hunter-gatherers, when their traditional economy is based on agriculture? Are you just lumping them in with other indigenous societies? If so, why? Why do you assume the Mapuche refuse to accept to the changes forced upon them, when history shows how they've adopted and adapted to so many aspects of European technology, military strategy and economy? You refer to the complexity of this conflict. Did you learn of this complexity by consulting different accounts of the struggle from various perspectives? Or did you assume that it's a complex situation without knowing what specifically makes this conflict complex? Can you imagine how it might feel to live you day to day life knowing that people you love are being tortured? Is there any rationale that can justify putting actual people, as complex and important as you, in those kinds of situations? Is there any rationale that can justify a socioeconomic system that directly depends on this kind of brutal oppression to exist? What is worth torturing a person over? What's worth killing a person?
You seem like somebody who's concerned with the world's problems. This is a good impulse, one that can inspire positive change. Lord knows we need every bit of that we can get these days. But right now, the things you're saying are harmfully regressive. Please try to examine what you learn more critically before publicly spouting nonsense about incredibly serious and tragic issues. This concludes my essay. All the best. I don't expect to come back this way, but I really hope you can do what it takes to let go of the poisonous old ideas that got us here. For you own sake and the world's.
Bachelet el retroceso chileno.
Omg
Sop's !
23:30 ni siquiera tienen claro sus exigencias, son solo un grupo de gente que quiere tierra, que idiotez hacerles caso y mandar a la mierda 200 años de república.
🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳🇨🇳 terrroristas
Here you will see, the hipocresy of a people that want huge pieces of land, but they don't want to work it nor farming it, they want freedom and peace but don't have the reasources, the institutions nor even the unity to do it a constant struggle among themselves, . For 200 years they were ignorant enough to not coexist with other people or mix they choose the wrong path, they despise huinca (foreing) culture but when they are sick, they cried for help and doctors, when there is droguht they deamnd food, economic help from the same state they despised. Don't get me wrong vast mayority of Chilean populartion have some "araucano" blood (pichunche, pehuenche,huilliche,puelche and mapuche.
It is not the strongest of the species that survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change
what a shameless and despicable attempt to justify land theft from an indigenous people . these people are hunters , it is their territory . when you take their land , you push them into poverty. european settlers had no right to use violence to take the land . check your moral values .