I just installed a rear set of Blue Sumo springs on my stock 21 Trd OR. I did not have to use a jack to install them. It was very easy. I had about 1” of clearance.,Yes get a long 19mm socket on an impact driver to help. I found where Toyota specs 52 ft/lbs of torque for the leaf spring retainer nuts. I did this & added a little blue Locktite too. 52 seemed pretty darn tight with my 1/2” torque wrench. If you go too high, you could damage the threads.
Have the sumos on my stock suspension Tacoma, love em! I have a topper and they really slow down the the rear end in the whoops and soften the blow when you do fully compress the suspension
Nice! Even with an empty bed I notice them catching the bed on the way down hitting large bumps at speed. They'll really get tested when I eventually have the extra weight of a topper or bed rack in the rear. Thanks for watching!
This is good info. I saw on a forum some guy trying to say if you have a camper shell you won't be able to get them on and the ride will be too rough. That said, the Sumo Spring he was talking about had 5 donuts instead of 4. Anyway, thanks. This is useful.
I believe the real torque spec of the rear bolts is 52 ft lbs. Toyota I think acknowledged there was a typo in the maintenance documentation that had been corrected. I used 60. Rechecked at 500 and 1000 miles.
Thanks for the suggestion! I spoke with the team at SuperSprings and they said I'll retain some articulation without the spacer, which is nice because I go offroading more than I haul or tow. If not, I'll look into the 2nd gen ones or getting a spacer for them. Thanks for watching!
How much lift do you have, I have a 2016, 3rd gen. with 3" blocks in back, wonder what set up I should get, sure drops down with 14' trailer and side by side on trailer.
I have 2" lift. If you're looking to get some SumoSprings specifically to reduce sag I'd hit them up and see what they recommend. They'll probably recommend a spacer & possibly a higher spring rate.
I like this. Do they make them for U bolt flip kits? I would recommend you install a u bolt flip kit as well. No need to have anything hanging under the rear axle. @supersprings
The ones in this video are for 2016 or newer Tacoma. They also make the SumoSprings for 2005-2015 (2nd gen) Tacomas. I don't think they have SumoSprings for 1st gen Tacomas, but they make SuperSprings, which are a different, leaf spring like product meant to serve a similar purpose.
Helps to smooth out the ride and support any load you have in the bed when hauling/towing. Check out my review video to see them in action! Thanks for watching.
I think the Timbren only have two "rates" to them whereas these are progressive throughout the whole spring. Meaning the sumo springs have more rates/levels (the bumps) that in theory would be smoother. This is just off the top of my head, I haven't used Timbren to be able to speak to their performance.
I just installed a rear set of Blue Sumo springs on my stock 21 Trd OR. I did not have to use a jack to install them. It was very easy. I had about 1” of clearance.,Yes get a long 19mm socket on an impact driver to help. I found where Toyota specs 52 ft/lbs of torque for the leaf spring retainer nuts. I did this & added a little blue Locktite too. 52 seemed pretty darn tight with my 1/2” torque wrench. If you go too high, you could damage the threads.
For sure. I believe Toyota updated the manuals to have the correct specs so shouldn't be a worry anymore.
Have the sumos on my stock suspension Tacoma, love em! I have a topper and they really slow down the the rear end in the whoops and soften the blow when you do fully compress the suspension
Nice! Even with an empty bed I notice them catching the bed on the way down hitting large bumps at speed. They'll really get tested when I eventually have the extra weight of a topper or bed rack in the rear. Thanks for watching!
Did you get the yellow or blue?
This is good info. I saw on a forum some guy trying to say if you have a camper shell you won't be able to get them on and the ride will be too rough. That said, the Sumo Spring he was talking about had 5 donuts instead of 4. Anyway, thanks. This is useful.
Hi, my dad was asking about your knife at the beginning of the video. Thanks for your videos. They’re very informative.
I think it's just a cheap Husky knife from Home Depot 🤙🏼
Dang, those are sick🤘
For sure!
I believe the real torque spec of the rear bolts is 52 ft lbs. Toyota I think acknowledged there was a typo in the maintenance documentation that had been corrected. I used 60. Rechecked at 500 and 1000 miles.
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Use the 2nd gen sumosprings because youre lifted. The 2nd gen sumos are taller. Thats what i did. Still barely touches then frame when unloaded
Thanks for the suggestion! I spoke with the team at SuperSprings and they said I'll retain some articulation without the spacer, which is nice because I go offroading more than I haul or tow. If not, I'll look into the 2nd gen ones or getting a spacer for them.
Thanks for watching!
How much lift do you have, I have a 2016, 3rd gen. with 3" blocks in back, wonder what set up I should get, sure drops down with 14' trailer and side by side on trailer.
I have 2" lift. If you're looking to get some SumoSprings specifically to reduce sag I'd hit them up and see what they recommend. They'll probably recommend a spacer & possibly a higher spring rate.
I like this. Do they make them for U bolt flip kits? I would recommend you install a u bolt flip kit as well. No need to have anything hanging under the rear axle. @supersprings
Not that I'm aware of, but I don't think it would be too difficult to figure out a bracket to work with them.
You need the ryobi 1/2" drive impact. I love mine. Works like a charm. Until it meets heavily rusted nuts.
True I have the 1/4" which helps a lot lol 1/2" would definitely be nice though!
@@KnightWheelsMedia most of my tundra has been disassembled with the 1/2" ryobi. Saved my shoulders
The upper Harbor Freight brand are good too, Hercules & Bauer. I think they perform better & last longer than Ryobi
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I installed the sumo spring bump stop. Is it ok if the bump stop touching the body?
Do you mean touching the frame? Yes that's how they're intended to work. Mine did not touch because my truck is lifted.
I know this is an older video but is there a reason why you did not install the front ones as well
Yeah they were still in R&D at the time and I haven't really thought about it since. I've heard great things about them though!
those springs look heavy duty compared to my taco what kind of weight you work?
Just static weight from bed rack & when I had the roof top tent on. Maybe 300lbs or so
How it feels when you first install it and without load?
Perfectly fine. Made it a little smoother going over speed bumps and stuff
Hey bro so these somo springs does it help out if your hauling load in your tray?
It will not increase your vehicle's payload or towing capacity. However, it can help smooth out the ride when under load.
What year Tacoma’s are these compatible with?
The ones in this video are for 2016 or newer Tacoma. They also make the SumoSprings for 2005-2015 (2nd gen) Tacomas. I don't think they have SumoSprings for 1st gen Tacomas, but they make SuperSprings, which are a different, leaf spring like product meant to serve a similar purpose.
What is the function of a bigger bump stop?
Helps to smooth out the ride and support any load you have in the bed when hauling/towing. Check out my review video to see them in action! Thanks for watching.
What’s the difference between these and the timbren active off road bump stops?
I think the Timbren only have two "rates" to them whereas these are progressive throughout the whole spring. Meaning the sumo springs have more rates/levels (the bumps) that in theory would be smoother.
This is just off the top of my head, I haven't used Timbren to be able to speak to their performance.
You think is better than Fox bump stop
Definitely won't be better than an active bump stop like the Locked, Kings, or Fox setups but you get what you pay for haha
Ryobi on the bench 😂
Mission failed, we'll get em next time haha