Good morning The watch you are reviewing is the phoibos wave master mk2. I have owned the first black wavemaster for over a year and it has offered fantastic value for money and is keeping excellent time . The M k 2 changes are I believe the brushed case , the case back logo is deeper etched, the bezel action has changed ( not sure why as mine is perfect), the hour markers are slightly larger , lume looks to be brighter ,the bracelet screws are larger to aid sizing and the crown has the octopus logo. The other versions In blue etc are still the original spec. For me ,it has been a great watch although a bit heavy , you get used to this and just offers great value . Cheers Dave
My first generation Wave is my most worn watch of my collection, not really a bracelet guy, wear mine on a NATO or a Barton Elite strap. I have no backplay on my bezel, I do like the brushed on the new version.
I'm pretty sure that the blue version is the Original version, which is why it's cheaper. The Black is the 2.0 version with some changes and enhancements. At least that's what they told me.
I confirm you can spot that the blue one had the older indices, crown and caseback. I've ordered mine yesterday after complaining about the price increase. Here is their response : Hello Nicolas, We use new manufacturer for the new batch and they have better quality, such as better lume, better finish, better bezel rotating feel, embossed crown and case back, enlarger hours makers. Our price is higher because our cost increases. With best wishes, Mary Zhang
Thanks Oleg for this review of new Phoibos and ill finally buy blue dial now. BTW is it just me or wavy dial make them look like Omega Seamaster? Cheers people!
I believe the Black is more beacause it’s a Version 2. The blue is version 1. The Relative Time Channel did a review of an Version 2, I believe that is what you have. I have a Green Version 1. A very nice watch.
I bought this exact same model about 6 months. I agree it’s heavy Oleg but still love the wave look, colour & no date too! Looks stunning in daylight.👍🏻😎
Just Great! Haven’t even had a chance to get the Eagle Ray yet, now I have to get the Wavemaster! Didn’t even mention “The Wall” is still out there to get! I am starting to get the feeling I might be a Phoibos fan boy!
Bought it when it was released and quite interesting to see the change to the newer model... The side of the case was polished and there is absolutely no backplay of the bezel at my version.... The blue dial as also to the wave pattern a sunray effect which makes this dial very unique. BTW - use a scale to weight the watch... - mine comes sized for my 8" wrist to 194g - so it is realy a heavy and substantial watch - playing in the weight league of a Rolex Sea Dweller.... Homage - mmh it pays homage to many watches... Case: Tudor Pelagos Dial: Omega Seamaster So it wouldn’t be that easy to come up with an original design where you couldn’t find origins of different watches... For me it is the first Phoibos which isn’t clearly a homage to one watch...
Given that Bond usually looks pretty unimpressed, this must be a good 'un. Form has to follow function with dive watches so it's inevitable that there are a lot of family resemblances, but it seems a bit hard to label this as a homage - Phoibus did slap a dirty great octopus on the dial, after all. Which I think is a plus, but marine cephalopods aren't for everyone - distinctive anyway. On past form chances are the bezel issue will get sorted out fairly quickly, and once that's done there will be very little to complain about. Enjoy your lemonade. :-)
Another great review! Agree with you, those waves really remind me of the Omega Seamaster, do love the orange seconds hand. However overall I would pass on this watch, it just doesn’t appeal to me!!!
Bond Looks extra happy today😂😁 Great review of the phoibos a lot, I think i would wear it on a strap. The blue dial is quite a beauty🙏🏻👍🏻 Everytime stunning what you can get for the money here 👍🏻
Great review. I own this same Phoibos model, but mine does not have the embossed rear octobus. Mine is more like sand blast. Wonder why they did this being the same model...
I like a few of their other models better but it’s not a bad Watch I always like This brand I like the square one you did a couple months back I just have to decide between green or blue
It looks like a Seamaster/Blackbay mashup hommage...to bad about the bracelet and bezel, interesting watch. Thank you for another excellent review Oleg :)
hey Oleg, how are you? it seems like Phoibos is getting "slightly" better and better as time goes by. that is a good news for them and for us. However, if I had to nitpick, I wish that the bracelet can taper down to 18 mm. other than that, everything looks pretty good. As for the bit of back play on bezel, just wondering, is it bit more costly to make it tighter without any back play? or just bit of carelessness from the factories??? do you know, Oleg? Thanks for the review, Oleg. PS: by the way, how old is Bond? my guess is around 7 or 8?
Nice review. There are smaller lighter weight Phoibos watches and several movements. So they do have some variety with their watches. I think they even make ladies watches too. They do make well-built watches. This one is too heavy and too large for me, but it reminds me more of a Tudor blackbay than a Seamaster. To me anyway.
I just noticed that the watch doesn’t have a serial number on its case back? Am i right? Or is it mentioned somewhere else on the watch? Thanks for letting us know
Likewise have owned this watch for about 10 months it is very good value for money. One problem I have found is that the Luminova on the bezel has 75% come off/out, (definitely not abuse), have had to purchase $25.00 new insert from Phoibos , not sure how I am going to replace this,not covered under warranty! I have noticed lots of company’s moving to lum bezels will this be a problem going forward?.
I have to say this watch even on my 6 inch wrist is incredibly comfortable. A bit domineering in terms of looks but it feels nice and looks nice. However, it seems like the bezel issue is a recent problem as mine from late 2018 has no issue whatsoever. No backplay and I actually have to be intentionally moving it forward for it to go forward too. Also interesting to note, the caseback octopus on yours is raised, mine isn't. Have you tried this on any NATO straps yet?
I have no extra straps that fit my wave master so I have it on the bracelet still but I'm getting bored of it right now but not the watch itself. Also I need a strap that will be comfortable for the summer and I find that the bracelet too hot for summer personally.
I have to ask. What is the plant that is always featured in your videos? It doesn't appear to be growing. Congratulations on the Speedy, my grail as well. ✌️🏻😎
Pulled the trigger on this watch last month . Great looking watch really solid and been my everyday wearer since. No issues with sizing the strap however my major gripe is the security clasp keeps coming loose not the main clasp and its grinding my gears! Anybody got any idea how to fix this or should i just get a two piece leather?
@@24hourstime Time to sue the gym for their negligence, causing your injury... If you have a dozen grail watches six months from now, we will assume what happened..
I bought the Wavemaster mk1 in black and it was a big let down. The bracelet screws were made out of clay. The case finishing between the lugs was also rubbish. I removed the movement for spare parts and trashed the watch. It was also top heavy. No more Phoibos for me.
Good morning
The watch you are reviewing is the phoibos wave master mk2. I have owned the first black wavemaster for over a year and it has offered fantastic value for money and is keeping excellent time .
The M k 2 changes are I believe the brushed case , the case back logo is deeper etched, the bezel action has changed ( not sure why as mine is perfect), the hour markers are slightly larger , lume looks to be brighter ,the bracelet screws are larger to aid sizing and the crown has the octopus logo.
The other versions In blue etc are still the original spec.
For me ,it has been a great watch although a bit heavy , you get used to this and just offers great value .
Cheers
Dave
Thanks for letting us know Dave!
Great value for the money. For me it is not a hommage. Well done Oleg. It is always a pleasure to watch your reviews. Greetings from Germany.
Thank you my friend!
My first generation Wave is my most worn watch of my collection, not really a bracelet guy, wear mine on a NATO or a Barton Elite strap.
I have no backplay on my bezel, I do like the brushed on the new version.
I'm pretty sure that the blue version is the Original version, which is why it's cheaper. The Black is the 2.0 version with some changes and enhancements. At least that's what they told me.
That makes a lot of sense. Thanks for letting us know:)
I confirm you can spot that the blue one had the older indices, crown and caseback.
I've ordered mine yesterday after complaining about the price increase. Here is their response :
Hello Nicolas,
We use new manufacturer for the new batch and they have better quality, such as better lume, better finish, better bezel rotating feel, embossed crown and case back, enlarger hours makers. Our price is higher because our cost increases.
With best wishes,
Mary Zhang
I like the octopus better than the omega logo. It's a lot more fun. Also Bond needs more screen time,lots more screen time.
Love my wavemaster...have had it for over 2 years...runs perfect, looks great on my rubber orange dive strap.
Thanks Oleg for this review of new Phoibos and ill finally buy blue dial now. BTW is it just me or wavy dial make them look like Omega Seamaster?
Cheers people!
I believe the Black is more beacause it’s a Version 2. The blue is version 1. The Relative Time Channel did a review of an Version 2, I believe that is what you have.
I have a Green Version 1. A very nice watch.
Great point! When I was editing the video that thought popped into my head.
I bought this exact same model about 6 months. I agree it’s heavy Oleg but still love the wave look, colour & no date too! Looks stunning in daylight.👍🏻😎
Glad you're enjoying your watch man!
I have the same watch in blue, and it is one of my favorites. Phenomenal quality for the money
And Bond is almost falling sleep !
He was tired after a walk lol
Just Great! Haven’t even had a chance to get the Eagle Ray yet, now I have to get the Wavemaster! Didn’t even mention “The Wall” is still out there to get! I am starting to get the feeling I might be a Phoibos fan boy!
Hahaha I like both Wavemaster and Eagle Ray but my pick is still Eagle Ray:)
Bought it when it was released and quite interesting to see the change to the newer model...
The side of the case was polished and there is absolutely no backplay of the bezel at my version....
The blue dial as also to the wave pattern a sunray effect which makes this dial very unique.
BTW - use a scale to weight the watch... - mine comes sized for my 8" wrist to 194g - so it is realy a heavy and substantial watch - playing in the weight league of a Rolex Sea Dweller....
Homage - mmh it pays homage to many watches...
Case: Tudor Pelagos
Dial: Omega Seamaster
So it wouldn’t be that easy to come up with an original design where you couldn’t find origins of different watches...
For me it is the first Phoibos which isn’t clearly a homage to one watch...
do you have the blue dial model PY009B ? Is that the one for 219 dollars that does NOT have any bezel backplay ? Thanks
i like mine alot, im ot suprised of the backplay in the bezel. I got lucky and the detent on mine is good, better than my seikos, thanks for the vid
Given that Bond usually looks pretty unimpressed, this must be a good 'un. Form has to follow function with dive watches so it's inevitable that there are a lot of family resemblances, but it seems a bit hard to label this as a homage - Phoibus did slap a dirty great octopus on the dial, after all. Which I think is a plus, but marine cephalopods aren't for everyone - distinctive anyway. On past form chances are the bezel issue will get sorted out fairly quickly, and once that's done there will be very little to complain about. Enjoy your lemonade. :-)
Thank you my friend!
Bond at 0:44 😂😂😂😂 that dog cracks me up
I like the green one
Another great review! Agree with you, those waves really remind me of the Omega Seamaster, do love the orange seconds hand. However overall I would pass on this watch, it just doesn’t appeal to me!!!
i cant focus on the review. the dog is just too cute!
Got one today , with date , love it , thanks for the review, Shane uk 🇬🇧
Bond Looks extra happy today😂😁
Great review of the phoibos a lot, I think i would wear it on a strap. The blue dial is quite a beauty🙏🏻👍🏻
Everytime stunning what you can get for the money here 👍🏻
Bond just came from a walk so he was extra happy lol
First time watching your channel great review.
Thanks Dustin!
Nice video. What are your thoughts on the Abalone shell dial? It's not the classic diver dial that many are used to, it's rather particular.
Great review. I own this same Phoibos model, but mine does not have the embossed rear octobus. Mine is more like sand blast. Wonder why they did this being the same model...
Love the dog !! :) is the bezel on model PY009B Blue dial for $219 better than on this one ? as i no backplay on the blue one ?
I like a few of their other models better but it’s not a bad Watch I always like This brand I like the square one you did a couple months back I just have to decide between green or blue
It looks like a Seamaster/Blackbay mashup hommage...to bad about the bracelet and bezel, interesting watch. Thank you for another excellent review Oleg :)
You're right. Case looks similar to Tudor and the dial and bracelet remind me of Seamaster.
Been thinking about a Phoibos for a while now, Probably going to pick up a Great wall. So many watches i want tho, hard to choose.
I really like Eagle Ray. My favourite from the ones I reviewed so far.
hey Oleg, how are you? it seems like Phoibos is getting "slightly" better and better as time goes by. that is a good news for them and for us. However, if I had to nitpick, I wish that the bracelet can taper down to 18 mm. other than that, everything looks pretty good. As for the bit of back play on bezel, just wondering, is it bit more costly to make it tighter without any back play? or just bit of carelessness from the factories??? do you know, Oleg?
Thanks for the review, Oleg. PS: by the way, how old is Bond? my guess is around 7 or 8?
Hey Alex! I think it's there is probably a slight difference in cost between a tight and a loose bezel. Bond is almost 3 years old:)
Nice review. There are smaller lighter weight Phoibos watches and several movements. So they do have some variety with their watches. I think they even make ladies watches too. They do make well-built watches. This one is too heavy and too large for me, but it reminds me more of a Tudor blackbay than a Seamaster. To me anyway.
Thanks Scott. That case is very reminiscent of Tudor BB:)
Oleg, how about NTH watches ? Have you ever reviewed one ? I am about to buy one soon...
Haven't had a chance to review one yet. But I've heard a lot of positive things about them.
I just noticed that the watch doesn’t have a serial number on its case back? Am i right? Or is it mentioned somewhere else on the watch?
Thanks for letting us know
Hi, how do you resize the bracelet? Thanks!
Came for Phoibos but stayed for Omega Speedmaster.
Hi, could you please tell me which size screwdriver I need tot resize the 2.0 Wave Master?
Likewise have owned this watch for about 10 months it is very good value for money. One problem I have found is that the Luminova on the bezel has 75% come off/out, (definitely not abuse), have had to purchase $25.00 new insert from Phoibos , not sure how I am going to replace this,not covered under warranty! I have noticed lots of company’s moving to lum bezels will this be a problem going forward?.
I have to say this watch even on my 6 inch wrist is incredibly comfortable. A bit domineering in terms of looks but it feels nice and looks nice. However, it seems like the bezel issue is a recent problem as mine from late 2018 has no issue whatsoever. No backplay and I actually have to be intentionally moving it forward for it to go forward too. Also interesting to note, the caseback octopus on yours is raised, mine isn't. Have you tried this on any NATO straps yet?
Interesting that your bezel has no backplay. I haven't tried it on a NATO yet. Is that how you wear yours?
I have no extra straps that fit my wave master so I have it on the bracelet still but I'm getting bored of it right now but not the watch itself. Also I need a strap that will be comfortable for the summer and I find that the bracelet too hot for summer personally.
Blue version is old version of the watch. Phoibos only updated black one for now hence higher price.
Like it! Nice review.
Isn't the band a Strapcode Super Engineer Type II??
I have to ask. What is the plant that is always featured in your videos? It doesn't appear to be growing. Congratulations on the Speedy, my grail as well. ✌️🏻😎
Thank you my friend! It's a succulent plant:)
Love the watch but the non taper bracelet is not for me , I wonder if another bracelet would fit
A lot of people have said that it looks great on a NATO, although I didn't try it.
Pulled the trigger on this watch last month . Great looking watch really solid and been my everyday wearer since. No issues with sizing the strap however my major gripe is the security clasp keeps coming loose not the main clasp and its grinding my gears! Anybody got any idea how to fix this or should i just get a two piece leather?
Try welding it
Maybe you can bend the security clasp inwards a bit on both sides, that should help.
Would like that in a quartz. But that's just me.
That's a big watch!
Ooooh.. . When this watch sell in my country ?!?
sparkling Burbon - Spiked Lemonaide.
lol
Bond is so happy lolol
I think it's the happiest he's been on camera lol
Crazy cuka
not even close to a homage
maybe to Submariner, it one really want to see resemblance there with those hour markers
Nice one :)
What happened to your thumb?
A small fracture from the gym. Thanks for asking:)
@@24hourstime Time to sue the gym for their negligence, causing your injury... If you have a dozen grail watches six months from now, we will assume what happened..
I bought the Wavemaster mk1 in black and it was a big let down. The bracelet screws were made out of clay. The case finishing between the lugs was also rubbish. I removed the movement for spare parts and trashed the watch. It was also top heavy. No more Phoibos for me.
Zzzzzzzzz looks like every other watch u have or review just my opinion
To me, it looks like a Seamaster homage, and you are just crazy.
LOL
It's a Pig! .... Watch is ok ... Bracelet is terrible.
First !
Seems a paid video...
I wish lol