5:59 I was hoping for a few more steps of reinforcement ;) - "I've had some bad experiences with the wooding rails coming loose, so I'm adding some construction adhesive to hold the wooden rails, so they keep the duct tape on, to hold the filter in place. But since the adhesive might crack, I'm encasing the whole thing in cement."
"Problem is that varnish really isn't good for your skin though, so I'm adding a layer of duct tape to my hands to prevent the varnish from getting all over them, and to save on cleanup on brushes, I'm just going to use some old shirt rags to wipe the varnish onto it."
"I don't want the duct tape to rip out the hair on my hands when I peel it off so I lightly cover my hands with sawdust before I put on the tape. This way it doesn't stick too much and I can peel it off easily. Plus the sawdust is free."
I have drill bits that are 50" long, used for drilling from the hinge to the lock across a door for installing electric locks. That tiny bit he has is nothing! ;)
I watch these videos and it almost makes me angry how smart you are! I find myself thinking "wow I wish I'd thought of that" time and time again. The angle block that holds the bolt head at the same time is just genius. Always impressed and inspired by your videos. Thank you for sharing what you do
Good job as usual. I love to see how people repurpose off-the-shelf items and this was a prime example. I think I have seen rectangular to round sheet metal ducting adaptors or maybe they were for downspouts but either may have also worked. Wearing out screw holes in wood can also be remedied by moving the holes.
Glad to see you are now using duct tape or foam tape to reduce filter blow by. As a note to other viewers, you can get adaptors that connect round duct to rectangular holes. I need to do something like this because my plastic dust collector broke beyond repair.
Tinkering around paired with engineering work. Thats Matthias. I love it so much. You made my day. I was looking for a solution for dust collection on my belt sander as well. Thanks!
Thanks for the great video. I really enjoy watching the way you tackle problems...solving them with woodwork & your grey matter😁. Really appreciate the simple individual tool dust collection. It makes more sense in a lot of applications & is far easier to rearrange the shop if you like. I would enjoy seeing some of your non-shop woodwork (a customer piece or two).
Congratulations, that is called ingenuity. It will maintain a safe environment of wood dust and you do not risk your health or that of those who are close to you. Better safe than sorry.
I always like seeing others ideas because you can take something from it and adapt them to fit other projects and ideas one may have. And then you can add/subtract/change it to suit your own ideas.
Muy bien aprovechado otros materiales. Ese es un proyecto q yo tengo pendiente, yo lo había pensado con la misma pieza pero de pvc. Aunque tenia pesado degarla un poco mas alta para q no pueda pasar el serrín por encima, y luego a un separador ciclónico, es q ese tipo de filtros de colmatan muy pronto y hay limpiarlos, las industriales sacuden cada poco el filtro para sacudir el polvo adherido al filtro.
well done. I got really excited at the front end of the video that your dryer connection at the sander had a nice sweep in sheetmetal. but then you showed us the dust collection side, which looks more like an orifice plate, than a bell mouth. XD I was hoping you would put a bellmouth on the flat side of the box. Would be a problem with a shittier dust collection system, but you just threw a ton of power at it, so no big deal.
hmm, I had one of those way back but lost it. But it would get in the way for sanding curves. Plus shipping to Canada ususally ends up adding another $20
Matthias Wandel True about the cost of shipping, but since the top drum is the same radius curves could be sanded there. Of course, that would be on the opposite end from the dust chute!
Matthias, you took some material you had on hand, built functional parts to fill a need and it works.Good solution. I just don't understand why some people feel the need to find fault with what you have done.
I did something similar. But I fastened a couple rare earth magnet to the pipe I used. It is stable, I can adjust it with ease and remove it without needing to unscrew anything.
Just a thought on your gasket- you could use caulk, but wipe some vaseline on the lid side as a mold release so it only sticks to the one side. Not as free as cardboard though. Also you can drip a bit of crazy glue in the #7 screw holes. It helps to keep the hole from wearing out
I change belts like crazy on my belt sander to go through course to fine grits, so this wouldn’t be practical for me having to take all that apart for each belt change.
Great pick up shute, but I would imagine the filter would become clogged very quickly. I have a belt sander and it puts out a LOT of debris when in use, I have a dust collection tube for the back of it.. thanks for sharing!
Matthias, if you were to ever consider a unified dust collection system with PVC run around the perimeter of the room and emptying into a central unit, how would you go about it? 🤓
There are many of these 6x48 sanders floating around on the used market for reasonable prices but most of them need a little fixing up. Rather than building one of these out of wood you should build one of the wider units that cost thousands of dollars.
I have a suggestion/challenge/query. Can/will you build a power take off (from whatever machine you are using) to drive a fan that provides suction for the dust collection? It would eliminate the need for a dust collection motor. You could use pulleys and or wood gears. I don't think it would drag the machine down too much. Might be complicated but I know you could handle it.
What if you lay the box on it's back so the filter is on top. Then add some kind of vibratory device to it so when it's not sucking, you can vibrate all the particles out of your filter to the bottom of the chamber.
Thanks for another great video. Entertaining as always, and I'm glad to have watched it. But... how do you empty the sawdust and change (or clean) the filter? It seems like a lot of screws for routine maintenance. Also, I wonder if the shape of the duct is actually ideal? I'm genuinely curious if it wouldn't be more effective if the opening were a thinner slot, perhaps, rather than a generously flared opening? I think the answer could probably be answered by google and science. But I bet it could also be discovered through experimentation using scrap hardwood and a pantorouter...? Or maybe instead of just a thin slot, it could be a curved piece of wood to closely fit the shape of the belt, but with just a round hole in the middle which doesn't reach all the way to the edges. This could maybe reduce the amount of air sucking in from the sides (which seems like this air is doing nothing). The air would have to flow very close to the surface of the belt to reach the hose.
"I've had some bad experiences with the depleted uranium brackets that secure the wooden board that secures the duct tape being stolen by North Korea, so I've installed a raspberry pi camera capturing all motion with a live up-link to a private security firm."
lol @ 6:07 I was anticipating "I've had some bad experiences with wooden rails becoming loose over time, so I'm adding some epoxy to the joining surfaces to hold them in place." ... "I've had some bad experience with epoxy degrading over time, so..." etc.
Id say you've wasted your time in carpentry and should have been a sheet metal worker, but you can't make as many useful day to day things from sheet metal. Well done sir!
I think the logical next step would be making the dust collection into a base and mount the sander to the top, then it would be a smaller self contained system.
wouldn't a lip with a gasket on the blower side of the filter do a much better job of sealing the bypass around your filter? That is what we do in commercial HVAC anyways. Seems like it would be easier to change the filter as well.
hvac uses much lower pressures, and blowby is much less of a problem. It's only air from the house that goes thru, so if a small part bypasses, that's ok. Not so for dust collection
Yonatan24 I never knew PC screens were plastic, I thought they were glass. Certainly the CRTs were and my Surface is, not sure what the TFTs are but thought it was all part of the display, rather than a separate piece?
Nope, I'm referring to the diffuser that's behind the screen, behind the diffuser. I've gotten like 7mm thick plexiglass from broken screens. I think I might need to make a video of this! CRT's are glass and rear projection TV's are a huge plastic fresnel lens. I think some PC screens are plastic and some are glass - not sure.
"When they ware out, I could use longer screws or number 8 screws" Or, you could just drill them out a bit, screw in brass or metal threaded inserts, accompanied with thumb or knob screws and forgo the whole waring out part!
A shop isn’t a shop unless it has enough airborne particles to pose a risk of exploding for a static spark. I miss the good ol days when you walked into a shop and you could Smell and taste and feel and see the dust in the air.
Can it capture flying sanding wood dust? I m looking for a system with the use of air filter, that sucks up wood dust that flies while sanding wood with motored sanding machine
Man I wish you designed the metal polishing equipment I used to work on when I used to be a metal polisher. If you guys think woodworking is Dusty look up a metal polishing worker they look like they have black face on.
Hello Matthias. Can you please give me some advice. I need to have a professional woodworking company make some wooden patterns of a cast iron woodstove design. My question is: would the pro version of google sketchup provide a suitable file format to give to cnc carpentry companies? Thanks
5:59 I was hoping for a few more steps of reinforcement ;) - "I've had some bad experiences with the wooding rails coming loose, so I'm adding some construction adhesive to hold the wooden rails, so they keep the duct tape on, to hold the filter in place. But since the adhesive might crack, I'm encasing the whole thing in cement."
"But I had some bad experience with cement collecting moisture so I'm adding a layer of varnish to seal the cement.
:D
"Problem is that varnish really isn't good for your skin though, so I'm adding a layer of duct tape to my hands to prevent the varnish from getting all over them, and to save on cleanup on brushes, I'm just going to use some old shirt rags to wipe the varnish onto it."
"I don't want the duct tape to rip out the hair on my hands when I peel it off so I lightly cover my hands with sawdust before I put on the tape. This way it doesn't stick too much and I can peel it off easily. Plus the sawdust is free."
OMG! :D
5:14 That was a really smooth audio transition!
DAMN!!! I was gonna say the EXACT same thing!! lol
Next week, Matthias will show us, how to make an insane long drill bit :)
He linked to the Benchworks youtube channel a while back, definitely check him out if you like well thought out wood projects.
Stephan Pöhnlein that's what I noticed too!!
:)
i dont understand how EVERYTHING you make no matter how mundane is so interesting to me! keep up the magnificent work!
How convenient that you own the longest drill in the world.
Next week: Matthias shows us how to make a home made oil drill.
I have drill bits that are 50" long, used for drilling from the hinge to the lock across a door for installing electric locks. That tiny bit he has is nothing! ;)
I think you can turn a long rod into a drill bit by sharpening the tip, better than nothing I guess for wood.
My thoughts exactly. Had to stop the vid and think about that one. lol
I watch these videos and it almost makes me angry how smart you are! I find myself thinking "wow I wish I'd thought of that" time and time again. The angle block that holds the bolt head at the same time is just genius. Always impressed and inspired by your videos. Thank you for sharing what you do
Good job as usual. I love to see how people repurpose off-the-shelf items and this was a prime example. I think I have seen rectangular to round sheet metal ducting adaptors or maybe they were for downspouts but either may have also worked. Wearing out screw holes in wood can also be remedied by moving the holes.
The round-to-rectangular adapters are called 'register boots' or 'duct end boots' and they are perfect for this application.
Watching you come up with solutions is always a pleasure.
I enjoy these kind of videos! Thank you!
Watching resourceful people making it work!
Glad to see you are now using duct tape or foam tape to reduce filter blow by. As a note to other viewers, you can get adaptors that connect round duct to rectangular holes. I need to do something like this because my plastic dust collector broke beyond repair.
Tinkering around paired with engineering work. Thats Matthias. I love it so much.
You made my day. I was looking for a solution for dust collection on my belt sander as well.
Thanks!
Again I'm amazed at his fabricating. Works great.
Thanks for the great video. I really enjoy watching the way you tackle problems...solving them with woodwork & your grey matter😁. Really appreciate the simple individual tool dust collection. It makes more sense in a lot of applications & is far easier to rearrange the shop if you like. I would enjoy seeing some of your non-shop woodwork (a customer piece or two).
your problem solving skills are amazing
You inventions are the best. Thanks for posting.
I love watching your solutions to problems in making stuff.
That can be more interesting than the project :-)
Thanks for the vid Matthias! Always look forward to your Friday tutorials.
Congratulations, that is called ingenuity.
It will maintain a safe environment of wood dust and you do not risk your health or that of those who are close to you.
Better safe than sorry.
You're like the king of taking spare parts from all over the place and making something new out of it
He gets points for creativity for sure a good video for young kids to watch showing if you put your mind to something you can do anything.
I always like seeing others ideas because you can take something from it and adapt them to fit other projects and ideas one may have. And then you can add/subtract/change it to suit your own ideas.
Ahhhhhhh Mattthias is back to making cool stuff! Harbor Freight here in the states and Amazon have those long drill bits!
"45 minutes later.."
That's cute. Sometimes I like to pretend that my attempt at something like this would take less than a week.
A week.. you are getting way too efficient... sometimes it takes me months... just for the glory of "I'll do it later"
This year I will finish rebuilding my table saw... probably.
I have a project that has been sitting there so long it's transitioned over to "some day I'll dispose of that"
Muy bien aprovechado otros materiales. Ese es un proyecto q yo tengo pendiente, yo lo había pensado con la misma pieza pero de pvc. Aunque tenia pesado degarla un poco mas alta para q no pueda pasar el serrín por encima, y luego a un separador ciclónico, es q ese tipo de filtros de colmatan muy pronto y hay limpiarlos, las industriales sacuden cada poco el filtro para sacudir el polvo adherido al filtro.
It's amazing to think there was a time before dust collection... by amazing I mean scary.
Nice that you are back with new projects :)
Love your videos Matthias.
A+ miters on that weather stripping gasket.
I like when you used the cardboard as a gasket. Great video.
Anyone else think that little block with the angle slot in it is absolute genius? :)
You have a very useful video!
You can always use toothpicks to fill the screw holes when they start to wear out. It is shop furniture.
Beautiful invention
The more I see you and John with your individualized dust collectors the more I wonder about my central 2HP unit... ;-) Good macgyvering job, btw.
Such patience. Well done.
I love this guys vids so much
Maybe not the prettiest jobs out there, but he sure knows how to make custom jigs.
And things easy for him
Thank goodness your on our side..
Nice, I've been putting dust collection on everything that I can!
well done.
I got really excited at the front end of the video that your dryer connection at the sander had a nice sweep in sheetmetal.
but then you showed us the dust collection side, which looks more like an orifice plate, than a bell mouth. XD
I was hoping you would put a bellmouth on the flat side of the box.
Would be a problem with a shittier dust collection system, but you just threw a ton of power at it, so no big deal.
Channel reminds me of Gilligan's Island. Remember all those creations those guys built from like - coconuts and bamboo.......
happy 2018 matthias you are a cluey fellow
Love the technical nomenclature, "flippy thing" "dust collection thingy".
Looks like the official Shopsmith belt sander dust chute is currently $23 + S&H. Of course, that wouldn’t have been as interesting a video.
hmm, I had one of those way back but lost it. But it would get in the way for sanding curves. Plus shipping to Canada ususally ends up adding another $20
Matthias Wandel True about the cost of shipping, but since the top drum is the same radius curves could be sanded there. Of course, that would be on the opposite end from the dust chute!
Matthias, you took some material you had on hand, built functional parts to fill a need and it works.Good solution. I just don't understand why some people feel the need to find fault with what you have done.
people who have no accomplishments like to belittle those of others.
It gives them a cheap high.
Well said Matthias.
5:51 That's such an easy way to measure out duct tape. Thank you very much.
5:16 a home made blower doing 10x more than a furnace blower?
thats actually pretty impressive!
Works great!nice job
I did something similar. But I fastened a couple rare earth magnet to the pipe I used. It is stable, I can adjust it with ease and remove it without needing to unscrew anything.
You ingenuity amazes me keep it up.
*Your
Just a thought on your gasket- you could use caulk, but wipe some vaseline on the lid side as a mold release so it only sticks to the one side. Not as free as cardboard though.
Also you can drip a bit of crazy glue in the #7 screw holes. It helps to keep the hole from wearing out
I change belts like crazy on my belt sander to go through course to fine grits, so this wouldn’t be practical for me having to take all that apart for each belt change.
Great pick up shute, but I would imagine the filter would become clogged very quickly. I have a belt sander and it puts out a LOT of debris when in use, I have a dust collection tube for the back of it.. thanks for sharing!
have been using the same filter on my other 6x48" belt sander, and it hasn't been a problem.
This is the sort of thing I’ve been saving junk for in my junk boxes.
I still haven’t done it though.
Matthias, if you were to ever consider a unified dust collection system with PVC run around the perimeter of the room and emptying into a central unit, how would you go about it? 🤓
you could get extra ability if the collection side of the filter was on the underside so gravity could also help
There are many of these 6x48 sanders floating around on the used market for reasonable prices but most of them need a little fixing up. Rather than building one of these out of wood you should build one of the wider units that cost thousands of dollars.
You should add this to your dust collection playlist! (And maybe enable captions?)
I have a suggestion/challenge/query. Can/will you build a power take off (from whatever machine you are using) to drive a fan that provides suction for the dust collection? It would eliminate the need for a dust collection motor. You could use pulleys and or wood gears. I don't think it would drag the machine down too much. Might be complicated but I know you could handle it.
Inventor. Genius. Matthias Wandel.
I love how you repurpose motors. Do you have to do any sort of testing to make sure you don't overload it for a particular application?
What if you lay the box on it's back so the filter is on top. Then add some kind of vibratory device to it so when it's not sucking, you can vibrate all the particles out of your filter to the bottom of the chamber.
What education do you have? At least you think like a experienced engineer. Love your videos!
You would be right, have a look at one of his many patents :)
I wish I still had a belt sander. Had that same one til a relative decided he needed it more than me.
Thanks for another great video. Entertaining as always, and I'm glad to have watched it. But... how do you empty the sawdust and change (or clean) the filter? It seems like a lot of screws for routine maintenance. Also, I wonder if the shape of the duct is actually ideal? I'm genuinely curious if it wouldn't be more effective if the opening were a thinner slot, perhaps, rather than a generously flared opening? I think the answer could probably be answered by google and science. But I bet it could also be discovered through experimentation using scrap hardwood and a pantorouter...? Or maybe instead of just a thin slot, it could be a curved piece of wood to closely fit the shape of the belt, but with just a round hole in the middle which doesn't reach all the way to the edges. This could maybe reduce the amount of air sucking in from the sides (which seems like this air is doing nothing). The air would have to flow very close to the surface of the belt to reach the hose.
"I've had some bad experiences with the depleted uranium brackets that secure the wooden board that secures the duct tape being stolen by North Korea, so I've installed a raspberry pi camera capturing all motion with a live up-link to a private security firm."
This is a great idea! Thank you.
lol @ 6:07 I was anticipating "I've had some bad experiences with wooden rails becoming loose over time, so I'm adding some epoxy to the joining surfaces to hold them in place."
...
"I've had some bad experience with epoxy degrading over time, so..."
etc.
Id say you've wasted your time in carpentry and should have been a sheet metal worker, but you can't make as many useful day to day things from sheet metal. Well done sir!
Genius as railways
I think the logical next step would be making the dust collection into a base and mount the sander to the top, then it would be a smaller self contained system.
Have you met Adam Savage? If not you need to. He's great and you could teach him a few things.
Great video, your videos are a good source of inspiration. May I ask which design program do you use to do your plans?
Einfach gut gemacht !
Put some cheese on the belt and something to trip the power and film the the rats launching onto a screw studded target.
wouldn't a lip with a gasket on the blower side of the filter do a much better job of sealing the bypass around your filter? That is what we do in commercial HVAC anyways. Seems like it would be easier to change the filter as well.
hvac uses much lower pressures, and blowby is much less of a problem. It's only air from the house that goes thru, so if a small part bypasses, that's ok. Not so for dust collection
A man
cannot have
too many
CLAMPS!
The high speed hammer edits remind me of HowTo Basic's maniacal egg destroying jump cuts 😊
Make a mechanism that drags one of those sanding pad blocks across the bottom of the sander to clean the sandpaper!
Have you considered learning 3d printing? It would help with custom part yet still keep to the fantastic format of these videos
Arnt you consernt with the fire hassard? Fine dust in a not ex motor? It can burn wery fast? 🤔
There is one expression in Brazil I always think about whenever Im watching these videos: gambiarra. Seems kludge is the equivalent in English.
Harden the screw holes in the frame with super glue. That will make them last a lot longer without having to go to a larger or longer screw.
You need to get your paws on a 3D printer. It's perfect for tool mods like this.
I think you should have used a plexiglass cover instead of plywood so you could have monitored the dust in the filter.
plexiglass is super expensive
Are you telling me you don't have a stash of plexiglass from taken apart from PC screens? :)
Translucent, but good enough.
Yonatan24 I never knew PC screens were plastic, I thought they were glass. Certainly the CRTs were and my Surface is, not sure what the TFTs are but thought it was all part of the display, rather than a separate piece?
Nope, I'm referring to the diffuser that's behind the screen, behind the diffuser. I've gotten like 7mm thick plexiglass from broken screens. I think I might need to make a video of this!
CRT's are glass and rear projection TV's are a huge plastic fresnel lens.
I think some PC screens are plastic and some are glass - not sure.
Yonatan24 Oh right, that's handy to know, I'll have to start checking when I have any broken screens :)
"When they ware out, I could use longer screws or number 8 screws"
Or, you could just drill them out a bit, screw in brass or metal threaded inserts, accompanied with thumb or knob screws and forgo the whole waring out part!
yes, but the whole "wearing out part" is so far down the road, it will probably outlast me.
is seems there is no problem created by working with wood that you can't solve by working with wood
A shop isn’t a shop unless it has enough airborne particles to pose a risk of exploding for a static spark. I miss the good ol days when you walked into a shop and you could Smell and taste and feel and see the dust in the air.
It's not good for your lungs...
6:25 nice looking piece of wood on the lid of the filter box. Is that one piece?
it was a really awful scrap of plywood, but just the right size.
Can it capture flying sanding wood dust? I m looking for a system with the use of air filter, that sucks up wood dust that flies while sanding wood with motored sanding machine
Matthias, what are some of the more exotic dusts that you have collected?
Do you still have your router copy carver? I would love to see more videos using that.
So much better than the Diresta crap...
Man I wish you designed the metal polishing equipment I used to work on when I used to be a metal polisher. If you guys think woodworking is Dusty look up a metal polishing worker they look like they have black face on.
Woodworking is still Dusty and everything Matthias does is still worthwhile. Not trying to have a pissing contest
What are the tools required for sucking up sanding dust?
Hello Matthias. Can you please give me some advice. I need to have a professional woodworking company make some wooden patterns of a cast iron woodstove design. My question is: would the pro version of google sketchup provide a suitable file format to give to cnc carpentry companies? Thanks
1:40 “I just cut a notch out of here”. You work for Apple by any chance?
RIP Larry Haun
Speeding up the video while keeping the audio normal makes me think Matthias really is that fast
Is there anything to can’t make with wood??