🤯 Canon's Wall Garden Revealed! Canon RF 35mm f 1 4 L VCM 1 is *Awesome on @Canon Cameras ONLY?
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- 🤯 Canon's Wall Garden Revealed! Canon RF 35mm f 1 4 L VCM 1 is *Awesome on @Canon Cameras ONLY?
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I'm mainly a stills shooter, but this amount of distortion is simply not acceptable for me, even on a native Canon body, for a 1900 Euro L series prime: profile corrections are so strong that they severely affect corner sharpness and resolution. Owning the RF 1.2 primes, I waited a long time for Canon to come with an RF L 35mm, but now I seriously consider buying the EF 35L II instead.
The EF version is a better option imho
Glad I never sold my EF L primes.
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I’m still rocking the Zeiss Distagon 35mm 1.4 for my 35 prime.
@@SimplySketchyGT Nice option, too - I'm still using my good old EF 35 2.0 IS USM... There was unofficial news today that Canon is still working on a RF 35 1.2 to be released by 2025, so I will wait a little longer. Actually they NEED to release a decent 35mm flagship prime if they don't want to loose even more reputation.
Yeah, I don’t see why Canon wouldn’t want to share any correction with other companies…why, they’d sell more lenses
Maybe they know their time is limited on the red platform and it doesn’t make since to share
Yeah maybe 🤔
The lens looks Rad! I may add it to my system.
It works great on the R5C and C70
It's a size and weight thing, in relation to cost. For instance, the main reason Leica lenses are so expensive isn't because they are optically superior to say other 50mm lenses by other manufacturers. Rather it's because they are on par or slightly better optically but are physically much smaller.
It's expensive to do because for miniaturization the corrective elements need to be much more precise and with deeper parabolic grinds. It's the opposite approach than say Zeiss cine lenses (like the Arri branded ones) which are giant, so they don't have to be as aggressive with their grinds and can therefore ultimately be optically superior.
Canon is trying to have their cake and eat it too. Make compact, light lenses with sub-par distortion optically (dictated by manufacturing cost), and instead leverage their developed software for a one-time cost to fix them all.
Thanks for the clarification and education! This is why I truly love UA-cam!
The RF 24-105 has the same thing. It's my favorite lens on my r3, but if you use it without lens corrections on the vignette is crazy
Same for me, on Komodo X it's ok because of the smaller sensor...but then we don't get the benefit of FF field of view which sucks.
Hasn’t canon always had in-body lens profile corrections though? It not much different than putting a EF 16-35 on a black Magic body. There’s no corrections.
RED used to update their firmware to account for lens correction specifically Canon Lenses
This amount of distortion is not acceptable nor normal for an L Series prime priced at 1900 Euro here in Europe!
I agree and why I am sounding out!
This is WAY more distortion than either of the EF 16-35s though. When I shoot the EF 16-35 F4 on RED or BM, all it takes is a couple points of correction to dial it in. This new RF 35, by comparison, looks like a hole in time.
Does the lens correction works on the Canon C70? I'm thinking about getting this prime to use on talking head interviews (for a flexibility of adopting to both 16:9 & 9:16) shot on C70 and having a good size prime for my R5. Alternative option I consider are Canon EF 35 1.4 II or behemoth RF 28-70 f2
it does but really the fact that the C70 is S35, cropping in to the image circle of the lens is the majority of the corrections needed.
@@carlosq00 good point. Thanks
Canon is designing some of their current lenses in such a way that they require distortion correction either in camera or in post. I think this is most likely a cost-saving measure. The RF 14-35 f4 is a good example. You can tell this is a design decision because the lens is essentially a 12 mm lens at the wide end until you apply the distortion correction at which point it becomes 14 mm.
Nikon is doing this as well.
I think this is leading us into a closed system by the companies that are choosing this as a strategy. This also opens up the opportunity for other companies like Laowa, Nisi, and others to give us better corrected glass that works on more than one camera system.
RF16 another example, it's ugly without it's 'makeup' on lol
At which point, it's free of distortion, which used to be a prized capability
@@kevins8575 it was prized because there was no way to correct it
absolutely atrocious
It’s not nice
I don't think canon market their EOS R lenses for non-Canon bodies.
It's RED that says you can mount RF lenses.
No one says you'll get corrections for your RED :/.
But thanks for the video, good point.
Great video. I noticed disparity between Canon lenses on Canon vs Red cameras and we talked about it over a year ago. Red ended up doing some compensating in a firmware update to deal with RF lenses . Canon lenses going forward will probably continue requiring some compensation by camera manufacturers (at this point only Canon and Red for RF lenses) to perform optimally.
i do remember our conversation
You had better get used to the computing power of cameras being used to improve images as "seen" through the lens. My question is, would distortion be visible if you used the system as designed. Canon and every other camera manufacturer is or soon will be doing the same thing. Why do you think Canon doesn't allow third parties?
Realizing they are all building closed systems. This will be the rise of the Chinese lens companies.
i mean the one that need to adapt and roll out update for the body isnt canon? u cant blame canon for that
I'm not blaming anyone, I'm simply saying that Canon is building one lens at a time their Walled Garden...
@@carlosq00 they build top notch lens to match their bodies performances i dont see anything wrong with that, if other bodies want to use canon lens then adapt to it, roll out more capable firmware update for their bodies and refine their adaptors
Its lens design, if a lens need to have a large aperture opening, edge sharpness, good bokeh at several distances and at larger to mid size aperture openings, no to little CA, superb AF and very good color rendition also coherent with other lenses and on top of that it needs to be small and lightweight, I think that’s impossible that’s why there are compromises in lens design. Cinema glass compromises on size and weight and no AF.
These type of lenses compromise on distortion and vinjetting. There are so many different lenses to choose between, just get the ones you want.
It works better to assume your power of choice instead of looking at what wrong someone else has done to you. Two different aspects of life. Which do you want to promote?
I'll get a lot of use on my Canon cameras out of this lens.
Are the same issues as prevalent when using older EF L lenses with an adapter on your same body?
no
@@carlosq00 this may mean that I’ll just keep all of my EF lenses and not be tempted
@@mikepolaroid Yes, Keep them! Even the EF-S ones. and the Gold band Primes too...
If if makes you feel any better, Sony lenses are just as bad. I adapted (and tested) all of my Sony lenses on the Nikon Zf and they showed similar results. Lots of distortion and vignetting. Best to use first party lenses with any camera.
this far into my career, I hadn't experienced that because I've mainly shot on RED and Canon...but now that RED isn't updating the RED cameras to correct for the new lenses...it was kind of a wakeup call.
Really interesting take! Maybe there will be a firmware update in the future for the RED to accommodate the new lenses? If I remember correctly it took a while for the improved AF on KOMODO to be implemented via firmware after the release of the RF lenses.
Btw what are the cabinets you have your cameras in? On the left in the back ground?
@@SimplySketchyGT A firmware update now that Nikon owns Red? Not very likely.
I think the lens correction via firmware on RED cameras is a thing of the past at this point.
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I would have to bite the bullet , take the loss , and move to a different system. Canon is the new Adobe.
I'll rent before I buy moving forward.
@@carlosq00 That is the wise advice. In my case, I have done the tests, I m not mentioning the brand I will be transitioning to, since for some silly reason take it personally.