Mediums are no longer needed to gain communication from the beyond. ITC, or instrumental transcommunication, is a field of study growing by leaps and bounds that can offer astounding results to anyone who can record audio while twisting a radio dial. I came to ITC years ago as a skeptic to debunk it with my own experiments, but the only thing that became debunked was my own preconception of it.
@@paulrichards6894 I totally agree. Humans are no more special than a bacterium or a worm that lived two or 3 billion years ago. We like the dinosaurs will pass one day and some other life form will take our place in the cosmos will continue creating.
It isn't stereotypical for a scientist to be open to these questions. The founders of quantum mechanics had mystic ideas. It's only the American superstars of science who are closed minded. (Rant over)
“If the Higgs boson and various quantum effects exist then it just seems to be wholly, uh, RIDICULOUS that we would need these special instruments to detect them.”
If the Higgs boson and various quantum effects exist then it just seems to be wholly, uh, RIDICULOUS that we would need these special instruments to detect them.” Kuhn’s attitude towards those mediums that get stunningly good results when cheating isn’t possible.
meow meow meow “If the Higgs boson and various quantum effects exist then it just seems to be wholly, uh, RIDICULOUS that we would need these special instruments to detect them.”
I am confused about space also. Where does it ends, if it ends ? And What's beyond this space if it has boundaries ? Are we living in a program created by some other civilization ?
These claims are only "extraordinary" because most people have unreflectively adopted the outdated material-reductionist philosophical perspective, which is no longer favored even among physicists.
Despite the views of dedicated romantics, those claims are indeed extraordinary and require proof. Just because you WANT life after death so very badly does not mean it is real. People will adopt all kinds of crazy ideas to avoid facing their death. The issue has nothing whatsoever to do with "outdated material-reductionist philosophical perspectives" - not even the slightest bit. It's about providing evidence when one makes major claims, and the evidence was poor. This notion was understood by the ancient Greeks millennia ago but many moderns have forgotten those vital lessons about questioning the questionable.
It is appointed for man to die once and then face judgement. (Hebrews 9:27) Now as no man remembers being alive before this life, this is the one life before judgement. And if there was no life after death, how are we to be judged? “Now the Lord is God, not of the dead, but of the living; for to God all of them are alive.” What does that mean? What does it mean, that to God, all of us- past, present, future- all of us are alive? I’ve been preaching now for over 32 years, and I have to admit that I was always offended by Luke 20:38. “Now the Lord is God, not of the dead, but of the living.” What? I thought. So the people who have died just don’t matter to God anymore? That somehow, once you’re dead, you’re off the radar? I didn’t get it. What about all the saints, that great cloud of witnesses who have gone before us? I just didn’t get it, so I skipped over this verse, brushed it off without serious consideration. There’s a lot more to preach on in the Bible than this one verse in Luke! But about two weeks ago. I was reading scripture, and there it was: the thing that I have missed all these years. “Now the Lord is God, not of the dead, but of the living; for to God all of them are alive.” God isn’t the God of the dead, because to God, they’re not dead. To God, all of us, the living and the dead… are alive. Our loved ones may be dead to us, but they’re not dead to God. It’s like that verse in Psalm 139 that I make all the confirmands memorize: “Where can I go from Your spirit? Or where can I flee from Your presence? If I ascend to heaven, you are there. If I make my bed in hell, You are there. If I fly on the wings of the morning, and dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea, even there Your hand shall lead me, and your right hand shall hold me fast…” (Ps 139:7-10) Is there anywhere we can be where God is not already there for us? Even in the shadows of death, is God not there for us? Go down to the next phrase of Psalm 139: “If I say ‘Surely the darkness shall cover me, and the light around me become night,’ even the darkness is not dark to You; the night is as bright as the day, for darkness is as light to You.” (Ps. 139:11-12) What for us is shrouded night is like the brightest day to God: for there is no shroud which can ever hide us from God. Even the shroud of death. To God, there is no such thing as death. And those whom God has created are never lost, but are transformed into a different life. “Now the Lord is God, not of the dead, but of the living; for to God all of them are alive.” It reminds me of what Paul was saying when he wrote his first letter to the people of Corinth: “Death has been swallowed up in victory. Where, O death, is your victory? Where, O death, is your sting? …But thanks be to God, who gives us the victory though our Lord Jesus Christ.” (1 Cor 15:54-56) Can we see it? Can we even begin to comprehend… that in God, all are alive? And if that’s true, what does it mean for us? We still grieve. We still mourn. It feels like death to us, because it is death to us. And a part of us has died with the passing of our loved one. But has a part of us actually died? No; we don’t die. We change, we begin a new phase of our life. No matter how bad it feels, we are not dead. And our loved ones- they have changed. They have entered into a new phase of being- a phase that God sees, even if we can’t. Einstein taught that neither matter nor energy can ever be destroyed. It simply changes its mode of being. Matter explodes into energy. Energy congeals into matter. Both alive, vital. And for those who have eyes to see, both are still visible. “Now the Lord is God, not of the dead, but of the living; for to God all of them are alive.” For all that, it still feels like death to us. When we wake up in the night and they’re not there; when we pour ourselves a cup of coffee and forget that we no longer have to pour two; when we turn around to share a thought, and there’s no one there to listen. It still feels like death to us. Rachel Naomi Remen wrote a short reflection concerning her mother’s death. “I was late,” she wrote, “for what was to be my last visit with my mother. Pushing through rush hour traffic, tired from a long day at the office, I stopped to buy her some flowers. It was seven in the evening and the florist had no purple irises, my mother’s favorites, and little of anything else. Sympathizing with my distress, he offered me a bouquet of half-closed iris buds from his icebox, assuring me that they would open in a few hours. I took them and waited, irritated and impatient, as he wrapped them in green tissue. A strange-looking bouquet. Then I hurried on. Carrying the flowers, I pushed through the heavy doors of the hospital ward. A nurse was waiting there for me. “I’m so sorry,” she said. My mother had died a short time before. Stunned, I allowed myself to be led to her room. She lay in her bed, seemingly asleep. Her hands were still warm. The nurse asked if there was anyone I wanted to call. Numbly, I gave her the numbers of some of my oldest friends, and sat down to wait. It was peaceful and very still in the room. One by one my friends came. Four days later I was three thousand miles away, arranging for my mother’s burial. It was an unseasonably hot spring, and New York City was at its muggy, uncomfortable worst. The funeral director was a person of sensitivity and kindness. Gently, he went over the arrangements, assuring himself and me again of the details of my mother’s wishes which we had discussed on the phone. Then he paused. “There was something that came from California with your mother. May I show you?” Together we walked down the corridor to where my mother lay in her closed pine coffin. Lying on the coffin lid, still in the twist of green tissue paper, was the bouquet I had left in my mother’s hospital room on her bed. But now the irises were in full bloom. I remember them still with great clarity, each one huge and vibrant, seemingly filled with a purple sort of light. They had been out of water for 4 days. It would be easy indeed to dismiss this sort of experience, It would be easy not to make a simple shift in perspective, or find a willingness to suspend disbelief for a moment. Not to consider adding up the column of figures in another way and wonder. The willingness to consider possibility requires a tolerance of uncertainly. But could it have been God’s way of letting me know that there may be more to life than the mind can understand?” (Dr. Rachel Naomi Remen, Kitchen Table Wisdom) There is more to life- and death- than the mind can understand. And Jesus said, “Now the Lord is God, not of the dead, but of the living; for to God all of them are alive.” Dear friends, what if that is true? In the Name of the One who loves us, and will never- never- let us go; even Jesus the Christ. Amen Resources: Rachel Naomi Remen, Kitchen Table Wisdom, “Mystery”, pp. 323-324 Scripture for Nov. 17, 2019 ISAIAH 25:6-9 On this mountain the Lord of hosts will make for all peoples a feast of rich food, and a feast of well-aged wines. And here on this mountain, God will banish the pall of doom hanging over all peoples, the shadow of doom darkening all nations. Yes, God will banish death forever. And God will wipe the tears from every face, and remove every sign of disgrace from God’s people, wherever they are. Thus, the Lord has spoken REVELATION 21:1-4 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away… And I saw the holy city, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “See, the home of God is among mortals. God will dwell with then as their God, And they will be God’s people. God’s own self will be with them, and will wipe every tear from their eyes. Death will be no more; mourning and crying and pain will be no more, for the first things have passed away.” Friends, listen to what the Spirit would say to us today.
Is the Higgs field a fundamental aspect of reality? How was was it to prove? CERN has a huge budget, a large army of researchers and there was a clear path to what would count as clear evidence. And yet it was very difficult. Indeed, some remain less than fully convinced. The argumentation on this channel dips well below the respectable far too often.
The notion of Consciousness is steeped in mystery and debate, and although it is still generally considered to be human only, there are now schools of thought emerging that believe some animals have ‘consciousness’ as well. The idea that it is an attribute unique to us as human beings arises from the fact that we have an awareness of ourselves and the world we live in, unlike most or any of the other creatures. This awareness we have forms the basis of ‘the self’. The reason for our becoming self-conscious, or self-aware, creatures will become apparent later on, when we begin exploring the nature of being human in greater detail. But this human self-consciousness is something quite different in nature to the reality of the Consciousness that lies behind and within everything to appear as the myriad forms in existence. Consciousness inhabits and animates creation and its creatures not unlike the power that flows through a computer to make it work in accordance with the hardware and software of the device. By this analogy, the specific physical characteristics of a creature’s body constitute the hardware, and the programming of its mind the software. These things are important to understand because if this conceptual ground is not firm, the model we build from here will not endure, and its potential value will be lost. What all this is pointing to is that what you really are―what we all are―is an eternal, unlimited energy source capable of creating and experiencing events. What you are is this creative source, this Consciousness. Who you are is how this Consciousness works through you to express as something unique in the world. Powerful creative Consciousness is your true and essential nature, but of course, you experience your life through the limitations of a human body, so it may not seem that you are an all-powerful being at times, or indeed ever. By its very nature, the body exists as some ‘thing’ and is, therefore, a limitation or restriction of ‘everything else possible’, to become something specific and useful―a human being. And then it must be remembered that these bodies we inhabit are a product of Mother Earth, and have developed for good reasons. Although today there are many philosophes, theories and just sheer guesses put forward to explain the purpose of our existence, none of them fully describe or satisfactorily explain the original intention for our emergence. Some bodies born into this world have, or will develop over time, physical or mental attributes that further alter the creative opportunities and experiences available to them in a lifetime. The influence of our national culture, the general culture of our times, and the impact of our upbringing by parents and other significant people also become major influences that can place limitations on our thinking and power. Other restrictions occur as a result of the pains we might experience in life, the emotions that often get buried in the body as a result, and the accumulating limited beliefs they then give rise to. There is also the concept of ‘karmic debt’ that will limit opportunities, and this too will be discussed later in the work. The state of your own evolved Consciousness is another factor affecting personal power. All these things limit the opportunities you have in life, and so it can be seen that although your true nature is something quite grand, you find yourself in very limiting circumstances. But it is important to keep perspective. Your essential nature is a free and unlimited Consciousness, a potential capable of eternal creation and experience. And this Consciousness was the reality before the Universe that we know emerged.
CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING: Modern science is showing that to have memories and thoughts, a correctly functioning physical brain is needed. Even computers have to have correctly functioning electronic circuits to have memories and 'thoughts'. Unless some other means to retain memories and have thoughts can be accomplished without having correctly functioning physical structures, then basically, when we die, we are dead, for all of future eternity. We will forget everything we ever knew and experienced. The sum total of our existence would only be whatever we left behind including how our existence affected the larger society that we existed in. And as long as humans have existed for, there have always been other humans left for human life to have continued meaning and purpose to. Now the thing is also, that per the current analysis, one day there won't be any humans left, nor probably even any life left from this Earth, as there won't be an Earth left. But that is another discussion.
You are assuming that, because qualia are arising (qualia are the raw experiential qualities of experience. The sight of blueness. The sound of a thought. A smell. A sense that you are present as a witness... All just qualia arising), that there is a real physical reality behind them. Notice that the only thing you have are qualia. There is nothing behind them :) It's just "this". What is appearing. That's all there is.
@@leonwillett4645 "IF" my theory of everything is correct, and I fully acknowledge that 'if', my gravity test needs to be done to prove or disprove that portion of the TOE, but 'if' true, then the 'gem' photon is the energy unit of this universe that makes up everything in existence in this universe, including our consciousness, memories and thoughts. In fact, an argument could be made that nothing at all actually exists EXCEPT for eternally existent space time existing in the form of all things.
@@johnnastrom9400 Unless at least one species from this Earth finds a way to survive beyond this Earth, solar system and collapsing spiral shaped galaxy (if it can even actually be accomplished for various reasons), then all life from this Earth will eventually die and go extinct.
We came to exist after we are born and at certain age/we all become aware of our own existence/we need physical body to feel that awareness its stupid to assume that there is life after death,as you mentioned in your comment its impossible for something to exist without the physical parts that make it functional BUT scientists claim that there is still hope for non physical (no mass) to exist in some deep parts of reality but we can't say for sure that this place (non physical) is where all the souls go after the physical body dies!
Your consciousness is created by your brain in your brain. Therefore, your consciousness can never leave your body and can never be any place except where you are located when you are watching TV in your living room you are conscious, but you are not conscious in your kitchen at the same time but when you’re eating breakfast in the kitchen, you are not conscious in your living room for example a blind person is not conscious of a dog walking past him on the sidewalk, some crazy scientist think that consciousness is everywhere, like sunshine, and can be transmitted from one place to another like a radio wave. I just can’t be transmitted it just exist wherever you are in your own brain. And if you have a good night of sleep without any dreams whatsoever that you know of you were totally unconscious during your sleep. Consciousness is not a hard problem.
our entire existence is based on being an organic being eating, sleeping, etc. People get bored already, especially people that are not well educated and curious. I can't imagine what we would do for eternity without doing all the things we only know. Don't get me wrong, I want identity to survive but the fact we want it to be real makes it so unlikely. Is there is anything we want to be true that actually is? Saying be skeptical of what you wish to be true. I sure hope it's possible that things can exist that we want to but it sure seems like we are a species that accidentally became aware of our mortality and now we are scared living in this purposeless meaningless Universe.
I think classical Disney cartoons fans are much different than Marvel universe children, specially old and new Star wars followers. I don't want to go in Star trek metamorphosis, wouldn't know where to begin, but i am pretty sure nobody will talk about visionary technology in latest episodes after 50 years.
While it may be possible that what we call consciousness represents base reality and physicality is somehow emergent, this individual presented no evidence that what we experience as the self persists beyond death. After all, our selves are physically embodied. Love Robert but this guest was unpersuasive, to say the least.
" ... during the heyday of spiritualism lots of people came forward ... " Yea, and there was a heyday of ufo sightings and heydey of radium as a cure all. Belief should require more than a few anecdotes especially when it's a belief counter to well tested and useful theories we already have. One big thing that is lacking is a theory, some explanations of how it could happen and how spirits could affect the physical world.
Everything is a heyday until we have real proof like UFO's which have been recorded by modern military aircraft. So...who knows when we will prove the next dimension.
"Belief should require more than a few anecdotes especially when it's a belief counter to well tested and useful theories we already have." I agree. It would be nice to have a physical theory of consciousness since the well tested and useful theories we already have are unable to explain or predict consciousness.
@@Samsara_is_dukkha It would be nice to have a physical theory of consciousness but creating one would require a consistent operational definition of consciousness. Since Weber's law (Ψ = k logS) there have been various theories of sensation and perception but people mean something more than that when the say "consciousness". I suspect they want to include something not physical .
I do agree with both of them..... But, someone who thinks or really deeply believes that he's got "paranormal" capabilities, should or at least could go in front of the Great Randi and demonstrate all or parts of it
Ok so you cannot say it but I will - what if advanced celestial beings have managed years ago what Elon Musk and others are claiming to be able to achieve in a matter of years from now - mind interface/mind uploads. Is consciousness/memories ready to be uploaded if the physical body is expected to malfunction, which explains ‘your life flashes before you ‘ when you in mortal danger. Perhaps these beings are managing mankind. We are getting closer to this knowledge thanks to our rapid advancement in tech, but what will we truly find out? Free will may not be as free as we expected.
Strange how people seem to have only lived previous lives, where they spoke their modern day language. Nobody ever seems to be able to speak older languages or indeed carry forward the 'skills' learned in a previous life.
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The word fanciful comes to mind. There simply is no “evidence” as Mr Braude suggests, his so-called “evidence” is both weak and intellectually insulting.
Then you should have no problem engaging the evidence he offers in detail. Tell us (a) which cases are typically viewed as the “strongest evidence,” tell us (b) why that’s they’re seen that way, and (c) tell us why those cases are flawed.
the burden of proof falls on you making those claims, not the other way around. that's not how logic works. read some books. the default position is null, that there is nothing to begin with.
My consciousness, the feeling that I get from being conscious, changes from moment to moment, day to day, interaction to interaction but ONLY when I pay attention to it. Otherwise I'm simply a bag of bones wandering from place to place. I have been paying attention to my conscious state a lot more lately and can clearly feel that NOW is the only thing that is clear. I feel everything that my recent workout has done. The emptiness in my gut from only 1 hour a day of eating. My sore hips when I walk. The good feeling I get when I lay down and the blood leaves my feet. But I only have vague memories of what my body felt immediately BEFORE right now and have approximately ZERO recollection of my conscious state during that time....It's gone. The more traumatic or new the feeling the better the chance of remembering some of it. Try it yourself, the past is gone. ....there are shadows only. So I get the feeling that consciousness is just the current report of the State of the CPU and all it's inputs over and over again and the reports are not stored in memory. I feel like more awareness neurons are firing when I am in a chemically altered state. I remember feeling more aware but not how it actually felt to be more aware. When I get dizzy and blood isn't flowing to my head I get confused thoughts and blurry vision. If I pass out I remember the faces that I wake up to and maybe how some of my body felt when I went down but I do NOT remember the conscious state (I had a dehydration incident recently). And, I remember absolutely nothing from the unconscious time throughout my life. When I am asleep there is confusion and the result is vivid dreams. Sometimes I can read pages in a book and they have 'meaning' somehow but when I force myself within the dream to read words, ACTUAL words, there aren't any there. So, how is it that I can trust a 'dead' brain when I cannot even trust my own in an oxygenated dream state? It seems what I am being asked to trust is second an third hand reports from people who's brains we KNEW were not functioning. Certainly the neuronal firings on either side of the "normal" state, before "dead", were very different than what the patient is accustomed to. I am also being asked to trust "Mediums" that always seem to be charlatans and scammers. Let the real ones come forth and get the million dollar prize from James Randy! In fact the guest, Stephan Braude should have no problem finding a "true" medium and claiming the prize. The problem is that what HE considers evidence just isn't enough to convince a skeptic. So with all my own experience and all the fantastically weak 'proof' that there is out there the believers become defensive when you say, "Really? That's all you got?" My response is , " Really? You'd believe something on no good evidence and very questionable anecdotes? Certainly I understand the desire to believe something as possibly living on. We all have only this life and want more time......this is just the wrong tree to be barking up. If you really believe it just wait. In the meantime study what it takes to live a longer life in the only body you will probably ever occupy.
No. Its an idea that early Christians stole from an earlier pagan religion. It was a very popular feature and helped gain a lot of converts and new believers. Just a marketing ploy.
He's not who you think he is. He has a science background. Also, parapsychology is a legitimate science but doesn't have any valid theories yet. But consciousness hasn't been proven to be produced be the brain. Our evidence supports this view more than idealism. But idealism should be given more chances to prove itself since we cannot easily test the brain production theory of consciousness.I do believe "we" are in our brains so to speak. The real question is if that is all we are.
Who do I think he is? Ms Mead my 7th grade science teacher gives me a science background. Parapsych is a word but so is nothing. Our evidence supports... who are our? Idealism is a lot like nothing, Idealism cannot prove itself. Idealism is a concept not an organism. Actually, our brains are in us. Well, most of us anyway.
@@TheProdigalMeowMeowMeowReturns : Not sure what one means. Please elaborate. (John 3:16) “For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, so that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life. God doesn't show his love by destroying anyone. He shows his love by not allowing humans to be destroyed by death. God made a way out of death.
@@TheProdigalMeowMeowMeowReturns :This may help. (Romans 5:12) That is why, just as through one man (Adam) sin entered into the world and DEATH through sin, and so death spread to all men because they had all sinned. It was to undo this condition that God promised to sent a Messiah as promised at Genesis 3:15. 1 Corinthians 15:22 For just as in Adam all are dying, so also in the Christ all will be made alive.
My favorite interview of all so far.
Mediums are no longer needed to gain communication from the beyond. ITC, or instrumental transcommunication, is a field of study growing by leaps and bounds that can offer astounding results to anyone who can record audio while twisting a radio dial.
I came to ITC years ago as a skeptic to debunk it with my own experiments, but the only thing that became debunked was my own preconception of it.
what are your thoughts on dr. Schwartz' soul phone? Would you prefer he used your simple but effective method?
when you die that's it......we are animals........not special
@@paulrichards6894 I totally agree. Humans are no more special than a bacterium or a worm that lived two or 3 billion years ago. We like the dinosaurs will pass one day and some other life form will take our place in the cosmos will continue creating.
It isn't stereotypical for a scientist to be open to these questions. The founders of quantum mechanics had mystic ideas. It's only the American superstars of science who are closed minded. (Rant over)
@Quantum Decoherence actually I read Schrodinger's what is life and books by Wolgang Pauli. I don't like Deepak Chopra for the same reasons you don't.
yup, im tired of all the clowns who only listen to the mainstream scientists an shut down everything else that in itself is unscientific
Have you guys actually read Sudduth, or Braude, or Carter, etc?
There is no money involved in non-physical matters. The only scientists they fund are empirical to an autistic degree.
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But at least he recognises that he may have been conditioned by the dogma of materialist science.
“If the Higgs boson and various quantum effects exist then it just seems to be wholly, uh, RIDICULOUS that we would need these special instruments to detect them.”
Yes. There is life after death. Or really, life after life.
Do you believe in love after love...... Lol
Nathan Forrest I Cher do lol
Did you changed your mind after 2 years posting this comment or?
@@nathanforrest3483you aren’t afraid?
@@jestebanamaya Nope. Why waste your life being afraid of dying.
My Spirit/Soul/Consciousness has never died, because I Am in The Eternal Moment Now.
Thanks for having someone who has actually done the research with an open mind.
If we knew everything there would be no need for faith.
If the Higgs boson and various quantum effects exist then it just seems to be wholly, uh, RIDICULOUS that we would need these special instruments to detect them.”
Kuhn’s attitude towards those mediums that get stunningly good results when cheating isn’t possible.
Refer research by Dr Jim Tucker, University of Virginia on children and past life. Some very persuasive evidence.
Indeed: med.virginia.edu/perceptual-studies/our-research/
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“If the Higgs boson and various quantum effects exist then it just seems to be wholly, uh, RIDICULOUS that we would need these special instruments to detect them.”
I am confused about space also.
Where does it ends, if it ends ?
And
What's beyond this space if it has boundaries ?
Are we living in a program created by some other civilization ?
Excellent work again, Robert. People should be challenged when they make extraordinary claims.
In this case Robert is deliberately ignorant and doesn’t know the evidence.
A true challenge would be to actually examine the vast breadth of evidence instead of defaulting to pure scoffing mode as most skeptics do.
These claims are only "extraordinary" because most people have unreflectively adopted the outdated material-reductionist philosophical perspective, which is no longer favored even among physicists.
Despite the views of dedicated romantics, those claims are indeed extraordinary and require proof. Just because you WANT life after death so very badly does not mean it is real. People will adopt all kinds of crazy ideas to avoid facing their death.
The issue has nothing whatsoever to do with "outdated material-reductionist philosophical perspectives" - not even the slightest bit. It's about providing evidence when one makes major claims, and the evidence was poor. This notion was understood by the ancient Greeks millennia ago but many moderns have forgotten those vital lessons about questioning the questionable.
So where do you stand with NDEs?
There is no evidence, all we hear is unconfirmed stories.
It is appointed for man to die once and then face judgement. (Hebrews 9:27)
Now as no man remembers being alive before this life, this is the one life before judgement. And if there was no life after death, how are we to be judged?
“Now the Lord is God, not of the dead, but of the living; for to God all of them are alive.”
What does that mean? What does it mean, that to God, all of us- past, present, future- all of us are alive? I’ve been preaching now for over 32 years, and I have to admit that I was always offended by Luke 20:38.
“Now the Lord is God, not of the dead, but of the living.”
What? I thought. So the people who have died just don’t matter to God anymore? That somehow, once you’re dead, you’re off the radar? I didn’t get it. What about all the saints, that great cloud of witnesses who have gone before us? I just didn’t get it, so I skipped over this verse, brushed it off without serious consideration. There’s a lot more to preach on in the Bible than this one verse in Luke!
But about two weeks ago. I was reading scripture, and there it was: the thing that I have missed all these years.
“Now the Lord is God, not of the dead, but of the living; for to God all of them are alive.”
God isn’t the God of the dead, because to God, they’re not dead. To God, all of us, the living and the dead… are alive. Our loved ones may be dead to us, but they’re not dead to God.
It’s like that verse in Psalm 139 that I make all the confirmands memorize:
“Where can I go from Your spirit? Or where can I flee from Your presence? If I ascend to heaven, you are there. If I make my bed in hell, You are there. If I fly on the wings of the morning, and dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea, even there Your hand shall lead me, and your right hand shall hold me fast…” (Ps 139:7-10)
Is there anywhere we can be where God is not already there for us?
Even in the shadows of death, is God not there for us?
Go down to the next phrase of Psalm 139: “If I say ‘Surely the darkness shall cover me, and the light around me become night,’ even the darkness is not dark to You; the night is as bright as the day, for darkness is as light to You.” (Ps. 139:11-12)
What for us is shrouded night is like the brightest day to God: for there is no shroud which can ever hide us from God. Even the shroud of death. To God, there is no such thing as death. And those whom God has created are never lost, but are transformed into a different life.
“Now the Lord is God, not of the dead, but of the living; for to God all of them are alive.”
It reminds me of what Paul was saying when he wrote his first letter to the people of Corinth:
“Death has been swallowed up in victory. Where, O death, is your victory? Where, O death, is your sting? …But thanks be to God, who gives us the victory though our Lord Jesus Christ.” (1 Cor 15:54-56)
Can we see it? Can we even begin to comprehend… that in God, all are alive? And if that’s true, what does it mean for us? We still grieve. We still mourn. It feels like death to us, because it is death to us. And a part of us has died with the passing of our loved one.
But has a part of us actually died? No; we don’t die. We change, we begin a new phase of our life. No matter how bad it feels, we are not dead.
And our loved ones- they have changed. They have entered into a new phase of being- a phase that God sees, even if we can’t.
Einstein taught that neither matter nor energy can ever be destroyed. It simply changes its mode of being. Matter explodes into energy. Energy congeals into matter. Both alive, vital. And for those who have eyes to see, both are still visible.
“Now the Lord is God, not of the dead, but of the living; for to God all of them are alive.”
For all that, it still feels like death to us. When we wake up in the night and they’re not there; when we pour ourselves a cup of coffee and forget that we no longer have to pour two; when we turn around to share a thought, and there’s no one there to listen. It still feels like death to us.
Rachel Naomi Remen wrote a short reflection concerning her mother’s death. “I was late,” she wrote, “for what was to be my last visit with my mother. Pushing through rush hour traffic, tired from a long day at the office, I stopped to buy her some flowers. It was seven in the evening and the florist had no purple irises, my mother’s favorites, and little of anything else.
Sympathizing with my distress, he offered me a bouquet of half-closed iris buds from his icebox, assuring me that they would open in a few hours. I took them and waited, irritated and impatient, as he wrapped them in green tissue. A strange-looking bouquet. Then I hurried on.
Carrying the flowers, I pushed through the heavy doors of the hospital ward. A nurse was waiting there for me. “I’m so sorry,” she said. My mother had died a short time before. Stunned, I allowed myself to be led to her room. She lay in her bed, seemingly asleep. Her hands were still warm.
The nurse asked if there was anyone I wanted to call. Numbly, I gave her the numbers of some of my oldest friends, and sat down to wait. It was peaceful and very still in the room. One by one my friends came.
Four days later I was three thousand miles away, arranging for my mother’s burial. It was an unseasonably hot spring, and New York City was at its muggy, uncomfortable worst. The funeral director was a person of sensitivity and kindness. Gently, he went over the arrangements, assuring himself and me again of the details of my mother’s wishes which we had discussed on the phone.
Then he paused. “There was something that came from California with your mother. May I show you?” Together we walked down the corridor to where my mother lay in her closed pine coffin. Lying on the coffin lid, still in the twist of green tissue paper, was the bouquet I had left in my mother’s hospital room on her bed.
But now the irises were in full bloom. I remember them still with great clarity, each one huge and vibrant, seemingly filled with a purple sort of light. They had been out of water for 4 days.
It would be easy indeed to dismiss this sort of experience, It would be easy not to make a simple shift in perspective, or find a willingness to suspend disbelief for a moment. Not to consider adding up the column of figures in another way and wonder. The willingness to consider possibility requires a tolerance of uncertainly.
But could it have been God’s way of letting me know that there may be more to life than the mind can understand?” (Dr. Rachel Naomi Remen, Kitchen Table Wisdom)
There is more to life- and death- than the mind can understand. And Jesus said,
“Now the Lord is God, not of the dead, but of the living; for to God all of them are alive.”
Dear friends, what if that is true?
In the Name of the One who loves us, and will never- never- let us go; even Jesus the Christ. Amen
Resources: Rachel Naomi Remen, Kitchen Table Wisdom, “Mystery”, pp. 323-324
Scripture for Nov. 17, 2019
ISAIAH 25:6-9
On this mountain the Lord of hosts will make for all peoples a feast of rich food, and a feast of well-aged wines. And here on this mountain, God will banish the pall of doom hanging over all peoples, the shadow of doom darkening all nations. Yes, God will banish death forever. And God will wipe the tears from every face, and remove every sign of disgrace from God’s people, wherever they are. Thus, the Lord has spoken
REVELATION 21:1-4
Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away… And I saw the holy city, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying,
“See, the home of God is among mortals. God will dwell with then as their God, And they will be God’s people. God’s own self will be with them, and will wipe every tear from their eyes. Death will be no more; mourning and crying and pain will be no more, for the first things have passed away.”
Friends, listen to what the Spirit would say to us today.
Man you killed it. Go to Afganistan, your faith is unshakeable! Good luck, don't wait!
Is the Higgs field a fundamental aspect of reality? How was was it to prove? CERN has a huge budget, a large army of researchers and there was a clear path to what would count as clear evidence. And yet it was very difficult. Indeed, some remain less than fully convinced.
The argumentation on this channel dips well below the respectable far too often.
He should interview Jim B Tucker who has studied plausible reincarnation cases.
"Plausible reincarnation" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤔🤣🤣🤣
The notion of Consciousness is steeped in mystery and debate, and although it is still generally considered to be human only, there are now schools of thought emerging that believe some animals have ‘consciousness’ as well. The idea that it is an attribute unique to us as human beings arises from the fact that we have an awareness of ourselves and the world we live in, unlike most or any of the other creatures. This awareness we have forms the basis of ‘the self’.
The reason for our becoming self-conscious, or self-aware, creatures will become apparent later on, when we begin exploring the nature of being human in greater detail. But this human self-consciousness is something quite different in nature to the reality of the Consciousness that lies behind and within everything to appear as the myriad forms in existence.
Consciousness inhabits and animates creation and its creatures not unlike the power that flows through a computer to make it work in accordance with the hardware and software of the device. By this analogy, the specific physical characteristics of a creature’s body constitute the hardware, and the programming of its mind the software.
These things are important to understand because if this conceptual ground is not firm, the model we build from here will not endure, and its potential value will be lost. What all this is pointing to is that what you really are―what we all are―is an eternal, unlimited energy source capable of creating and experiencing events. What you are is this creative source, this Consciousness. Who you are is how this Consciousness works through you to express as something unique in the world.
Powerful creative Consciousness is your true and essential nature, but of course, you experience your life through the limitations of a human body, so it may not seem that you are an all-powerful being at times, or indeed ever. By its very nature, the body exists as some ‘thing’ and is, therefore, a limitation or restriction of ‘everything else possible’, to become something specific and useful―a human being. And then it must be remembered that these bodies we inhabit are a product of Mother Earth, and have developed for good reasons. Although today there are many philosophes, theories and just sheer guesses put forward to explain the purpose of our existence, none of them fully describe or satisfactorily explain the original intention for our emergence.
Some bodies born into this world have, or will develop over time, physical or mental attributes that further alter the creative opportunities and experiences available to them in a lifetime. The influence of our national culture, the general culture of our times, and the impact of our upbringing by parents and other significant people also become major influences that can place limitations on our thinking and power. Other restrictions occur as a result of the pains we might experience in life, the emotions that often get buried in the body as a result, and the accumulating limited beliefs they then give rise to. There is also the concept of ‘karmic debt’ that will limit opportunities, and this too will be discussed later in the work.
The state of your own evolved Consciousness is another factor affecting personal power. All these things limit the opportunities you have in life, and so it can be seen that although your true nature is something quite grand, you find yourself in very limiting circumstances. But it is important to keep perspective. Your essential nature is a free and unlimited Consciousness, a potential capable of eternal creation and experience. And this Consciousness was the reality before the Universe that we know emerged.
We are to busy living this life to pay attention or notice signs of after this life.
CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING: Modern science is showing that to have memories and thoughts, a correctly functioning physical brain is needed. Even computers have to have correctly functioning electronic circuits to have memories and 'thoughts'. Unless some other means to retain memories and have thoughts can be accomplished without having correctly functioning physical structures, then basically, when we die, we are dead, for all of future eternity. We will forget everything we ever knew and experienced. The sum total of our existence would only be whatever we left behind including how our existence affected the larger society that we existed in. And as long as humans have existed for, there have always been other humans left for human life to have continued meaning and purpose to.
Now the thing is also, that per the current analysis, one day there won't be any humans left, nor probably even any life left from this Earth, as there won't be an Earth left. But that is another discussion.
You are assuming that, because qualia are arising (qualia are the raw experiential qualities of experience. The sight of blueness. The sound of a thought. A smell. A sense that you are present as a witness... All just qualia arising), that there is a real physical reality behind them.
Notice that the only thing you have are qualia.
There is nothing behind them :)
It's just "this". What is appearing. That's all there is.
@@leonwillett4645 "IF" my theory of everything is correct, and I fully acknowledge that 'if', my gravity test needs to be done to prove or disprove that portion of the TOE, but 'if' true, then the 'gem' photon is the energy unit of this universe that makes up everything in existence in this universe, including our consciousness, memories and thoughts. In fact, an argument could be made that nothing at all actually exists EXCEPT for eternally existent space time existing in the form of all things.
@@charlesbrightman4237 Not sure what your point is.
@@johnnastrom9400 Unless at least one species from this Earth finds a way to survive beyond this Earth, solar system and collapsing spiral shaped galaxy (if it can even actually be accomplished for various reasons), then all life from this Earth will eventually die and go extinct.
We came to exist after we are born and at certain age/we all become aware of our own existence/we need physical body to feel that awareness its stupid to assume that there is life after death,as you mentioned in your comment its impossible for something to exist without the physical parts that make it functional BUT scientists claim that there is still hope for non physical (no mass) to exist in some deep parts of reality but we can't say for sure that this place (non physical) is where all the souls go after the physical body dies!
I have a lot of respect for Robert who managed to keep a straight face when listening to that nonsense.
Kudos!
If someone could prove the existence of ghost would prove that there is a life after death.
Your consciousness is created by your brain in your brain. Therefore, your consciousness can never leave your body and can never be any place except where you are located when you are watching TV in your living room you are conscious, but you are not conscious in your kitchen at the same time but when you’re eating breakfast in the kitchen, you are not conscious in your living room for example a blind person is not conscious of a dog walking past him on the sidewalk, some crazy scientist think that consciousness is everywhere, like sunshine, and can be transmitted from one place to another like a radio wave. I just can’t be transmitted it just exist wherever you are in your own brain. And if you have a good night of sleep without any dreams whatsoever that you know of you were totally unconscious during your sleep. Consciousness is not a hard problem.
our entire existence is based on being an organic being eating, sleeping, etc. People get bored already, especially people that are not well educated and curious. I can't imagine what we would do for eternity without doing all the things we only know.
Don't get me wrong, I want identity to survive but the fact we want it to be real makes it so unlikely. Is there is anything we want to be true that actually is? Saying be skeptical of what you wish to be true. I sure hope it's possible that things can exist that we want to but it sure seems like we are a species that accidentally became aware of our mortality and now we are scared living in this purposeless meaningless Universe.
I think classical Disney cartoons fans are much different than Marvel universe children, specially old and new Star wars followers. I don't want to go in Star trek metamorphosis, wouldn't know where to begin, but i am pretty sure nobody will talk about visionary technology in latest episodes after 50 years.
It happens slowly, this kind of seeing, because it's evolutionary. We have much to learn when our brains a ready, which some are.
Does faith bring you to truth claims about the world?
While it may be possible that what we call consciousness represents base reality and physicality is somehow emergent, this individual presented no evidence that what we experience as the self persists beyond death. After all, our selves are physically embodied. Love Robert but this guest was unpersuasive, to say the least.
"The thought seems rediculous". Why rediculous? Because you say so?
" ... during the heyday of spiritualism lots of people came forward ... " Yea, and there was a heyday of ufo sightings and heydey of radium as a cure all. Belief should require more than a few anecdotes especially when it's a belief counter to well tested and useful theories we already have. One big thing that is lacking is a theory, some explanations of how it could happen and how spirits could affect the physical world.
Everything is a heyday until we have real proof like UFO's which have been recorded by modern military aircraft. So...who knows when we will prove the next dimension.
Those who adopt a belief will accept the most ridiculous things as truth.
@@stevewittwer7444 you most likely believe in a lot of ridiculous things that don't actually make any sense at all under scrutiny.
"Belief should require more than a few anecdotes especially when it's a belief counter to well tested and useful theories we already have."
I agree. It would be nice to have a physical theory of consciousness since the well tested and useful theories we already have are unable to explain or predict consciousness.
@@Samsara_is_dukkha It would be nice to have a physical theory of consciousness but creating one would require a consistent operational definition of consciousness. Since Weber's law (Ψ = k logS) there have been various theories of sensation and perception but people mean something more than that when the say "consciousness". I suspect they want to include something not physical .
I do agree with both of them..... But, someone who thinks or really deeply believes that he's got "paranormal" capabilities, should or at least could go in front of the Great Randi and demonstrate all or parts of it
Since the Great Randi is no longer amongst us, they will have to do it through a medium.
Oh god, this nonsense again
If there is life after death the present scientific materialistic world view is jeopardized
Awesome discussion even if the interviewer lost his way towards the end
Ok so you cannot say it but I will - what if advanced celestial beings have managed years ago what Elon Musk and others are claiming to be able to achieve in a matter of years from now - mind interface/mind uploads. Is consciousness/memories ready to be uploaded if the physical body is expected to malfunction, which explains ‘your life flashes before you ‘ when you in mortal danger. Perhaps these beings are managing mankind. We are getting closer to this knowledge thanks to our rapid advancement in tech, but what will we truly find out? Free will may not be as free as we expected.
Strange how people seem to have only lived previous lives, where they spoke their modern day language. Nobody ever seems to be able to speak older languages or indeed carry forward the 'skills' learned in a previous life.
What evidence he is talking about?He needs to have more clarity.
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One can't afford the rent there either.
The word fanciful comes to mind. There simply is no “evidence” as Mr Braude suggests, his so-called “evidence” is both weak and intellectually insulting.
Then you should have no problem engaging the evidence he offers in detail. Tell us (a) which cases are typically viewed as the “strongest evidence,” tell us (b) why that’s they’re seen that way, and (c) tell us why those cases are flawed.
Weak evidence and intellectually insulting are not mutually inclusive. Evidence isn't necessary for things to be intellectual.
What is super sai?
Then explain the supernatural people sightings of ghosts, possession etc.
the burden of proof falls on you making those claims, not the other way around. that's not how logic works. read some books. the default position is null, that there is nothing to begin with.
@@quantumdecoherence1289 But how can the experience of one person ever be yours?
My consciousness, the feeling that I get from being conscious, changes from moment to moment, day to day, interaction to interaction but ONLY when I pay attention to it. Otherwise I'm simply a bag of bones wandering from place to place.
I have been paying attention to my conscious state a lot more lately and can clearly feel that NOW is the only thing that is clear. I feel everything that my recent workout has done. The emptiness in my gut from only 1 hour a day of eating. My sore hips when I walk. The good feeling I get when I lay down and the blood leaves my feet. But I only have vague memories of what my body felt immediately BEFORE right now and have approximately ZERO recollection of my conscious state during that time....It's gone. The more traumatic or new the feeling the better the chance of remembering some of it.
Try it yourself, the past is gone.
....there are shadows only.
So I get the feeling that consciousness is just the current report of the State of the CPU and all it's inputs over and over again and the reports are not stored in memory. I feel like more awareness neurons are firing when I am in a chemically altered state. I remember feeling more aware but not how it actually felt to be more aware. When I get dizzy and blood isn't flowing to my head I get confused thoughts and blurry vision. If I pass out I remember the faces that I wake up to and maybe how some of my body felt when I went down but I do NOT remember the conscious state (I had a dehydration incident recently). And, I remember absolutely nothing from the unconscious time throughout my life.
When I am asleep there is confusion and the result is vivid dreams. Sometimes I can read pages in a book and they have 'meaning' somehow but when I force myself within the dream to read words, ACTUAL words, there aren't any there. So, how is it that I can trust a 'dead' brain when I cannot even trust my own in an oxygenated dream state?
It seems what I am being asked to trust is second an third hand reports from people who's brains we KNEW were not functioning. Certainly the neuronal firings on either side of the "normal" state, before "dead", were very different than what the patient is accustomed to.
I am also being asked to trust "Mediums" that always seem to be charlatans and scammers. Let the real ones come forth and get the million dollar prize from James Randy! In fact the guest, Stephan Braude should have no problem finding a "true" medium and claiming the prize. The problem is that what HE considers evidence just isn't enough to convince a skeptic.
So with all my own experience and all the fantastically weak 'proof' that there is out there the believers become defensive when you say, "Really? That's all you got?"
My response is , " Really? You'd believe something on no good evidence and very questionable anecdotes?
Certainly I understand the desire to believe something as possibly living on. We all have only this life and want more time......this is just the wrong tree to be barking up. If you really believe it just wait. In the meantime study what it takes to live a longer life in the only body you will probably ever occupy.
Terminal lucidity
@@dogsbollox4335 more like terminal psychosis that just feels like lucidity
Do you think Stephen is delusional why or why not?
9:00 ============== EXTORTION.
I hate to say this but Braude comes across as very gullible in this iview
Close mind is bad for science
Nonsense
Host says “let’s look at the evidence first.”
Proceeds to NOT discuss evidence.
No. Its an idea that early Christians stole from an earlier pagan religion. It was a very popular feature and helped gain a lot of converts and new believers. Just a marketing ploy.
If every human being sure and certain that there is after life, why bother doing this interview. Talk about secret of life..😊
Terrible humbug, vaste of time...
delusional Stephen Braude
if your guest ever needs a job, he could become a used car salesman and make a killing. of course, all his clientele would come back and haunt him.
He's not who you think he is. He has a science background. Also, parapsychology is a legitimate science but doesn't have any valid theories yet. But consciousness hasn't been proven to be produced be the brain. Our evidence supports this view more than idealism. But idealism should be given more chances to prove itself since we cannot easily test the brain production theory of consciousness.I do believe "we" are in our brains so to speak. The real question is if that is all we are.
Who do I think he is? Ms Mead my 7th grade science teacher gives me a science background. Parapsych is a word but so is nothing. Our evidence supports... who are our? Idealism is a lot like nothing, Idealism cannot prove itself. Idealism is a concept not an organism. Actually, our brains are in us. Well, most of us anyway.
@@ronjohnson4566 thank you.
If life continues after death, God lied and Satan spoke the truth in the Genesis account.
Even if your interpretation of genesis is correct, your conclusion wouldn’t follow.
Also, your interpretation is false.
@@TheProdigalMeowMeowMeowReturns : Not sure what one means. Please elaborate.
(John 3:16) “For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, so that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life.
God doesn't show his love by destroying anyone.
He shows his love by not allowing humans to be destroyed by death. God made a way out of death.
@@tongakhan230 What I meant is that the Genesis account of the fall doesn’t rule out the possibility of postmortem survival IMO
@@TheProdigalMeowMeowMeowReturns :This may help.
(Romans 5:12) That is why, just as through one man (Adam) sin entered into the world and DEATH through sin, and so death spread to all men because they had all sinned.
It was to undo this condition that God promised to sent a Messiah as promised at Genesis 3:15.
1 Corinthians 15:22 For just as in Adam all are dying, so also in the Christ all will be made alive.
Quick answer, No there is no life after death. Get over it.
Richard -- there is no way of knowing either way so shut up.
Thank you for your deeply philosophical input there!
You don’t know nothing kid