I think it would be good if we managed to salvage some more artifacts and if we took more pictures of the interiors and the debris field while we can. That said, anything salvaged should strictly stay in museums, no private sales.
They said that the pool room with the water tight door is still sealed so maybe they can maybe scuba dive and use some sort of tool to open it and see if the pool is in the best condition it is maybe they can just try to break of that room or maybe bring some stuff from it
I think the only way to dry the Titanic without destroying it, is to build around it a huge 4000 meters high wall bold enough to withstand surrounding ocean pressure, and pump out water from inside. But this world be the most difficult, expensive and biggest construction ever built by humanity.
Titanic 2 is in production. No not the movie. They’re supposed to be making a working replica of the Titanic. Obviously to capitalize on high priced tickets to go on trips on it
The better option is to raise the Brittanic, reasons: It is in better condition It literally identical, The only problem with it is the bow And it is just better than titanic
Even in 1985 when it was found, it would still have been impossible. The structure was already compromised heavily when it hit the sea bed. And even by 1985 rusticles had largely consumed the ship, and bringing it back up 2 miles to the surface from the incredible pressure of 12500 feet on the Atlantic floor, taking into consideration that, like the video says that the ship's been resting in freezing waters for over a century, it's just not doable. Plus, the titanic is humongous.
Let me add something to consider: Every part of the ship below the sea floor is considered to look basically brand new, except of course to the crashing damage, so down under, Titanic should still be pretty much intact.
@@carloscollomps1552 unfortunately no, rusticles have consumed pretty much the whole wreck, and any attempt to raise it will cause it to disintegrate. Besides, it's a monument to a legend and an incredibly unfortunate tragecy, and it's the poignant thing to do, to let the ocean eventually consume the wreck where it rested.
Titanic is an artifact, you can't tell me people wouldn't be interested in a piece of Titanic by claiming pieces of it.If it's not an artifact,at the very least, that ship belongs at the Smithsonian,like Lindbergh plane. I agree there are challenges to remove Titanic from the ocean floor. But remember science always had a way to work out,and hopefully some scientific genius can work out the calculus to figure exactly how many lift bags are needed to bring that glorious ship to the surface. Me I would be interested in just taking pictures with me posing next to it.
TITANIC is in such a state of disrepair that the only thing holding it together is the mud and the few rivets still on the ship that haven't rusted away
That's probably true, but more importantly that rusty old shipwreck should be left alone, she's also a Mass grave yard and should be respected as such. Leave her alone, let her rest. Besides even if someone could raise her that wouldn't erase the tragedy or bring back the poor souls that lost her lives on board the Titanic on that fateful night back in 1912
I would say using underwater laser cutters and breaking off 10 to 1000 ton slabs at a time with the help of lift bags. There's a chance to take small sections at a time, then piece them together -weld them. I think that is the best solution. Titanic is a big ship, raising it is an enormous engineering task. But I think the best solution is preserving pieces of Titanic in museums before it's lost to the salt water forever.
I have a watch made from titanic metal :-)) Also ..many other pieces of memrobella ? I am a small private collecter - and wouldn't part with them for the world! Such a privalge to own! :-))
Oh wow, if that's true,then yes,well that's amazing. Good for you. That's wonderful, then you are a true Titanic history buff and avid collector. What's your take on maybe raising Titanic,and taking pieces off, and giving a piece of Titanic as a souvenir to everybody? I think that money could go to charities.
I would say it would cost a tremendous amount of money but I'm sure if they opened up a huge museum with the pieces they could recover the cost maybe. It would have to be by some billionaire that loves the history behind it though.
@@michaelb1766 Well..there won't be enough to give everybody ..but definately go after the rich who evade taxes and give that money to everybody who needs it ..which in theory a democratic society is meant to do.. So I guess It is safe to say that unless there is a pardighm shift anytime soon from corporate welfare to humility welfare.. it's not going to happen?! "Charity begins at home"..and I'm all for it! :-) Titanic for me though is the greatest metaphor in the power of mother nature that ever was and with such grace and beauty! I do indeed have valuable Titanic memrobella, however, the most intrinsic value is the legendary tale for which it represents and to never take things for granted - cherish the memories and hold them in our hearts forever ...which is what the Titanic story does for me?! Tragedy magnificence and love all combined! 💥❤
@@youtubehatesfreespeech2436 Yeah...or crowd funding of some kind? I think we should recover as much as we can from Titanic ... and other shipwrecks as well? Build a museum to house them all...would definately work?! :-)
Leave it. We have a disturbing fascination with disturbing the dead. Its a gravesite. Its also a legend and deserves to remain one. Just because it'll eventually rust and disappear in the physical sense doesn't mean it'll be gone. Its history and history is never forgotten. 💯
Technically it's not considered a gravesite anymore cause it's been more than 75 years....if they can raise it I say go ahead...it'll be ruined eventually anyway....and what if your kids or someone else's kids could go to a museum and see a piece of the rms Titanic...or the items locked away in the rooms we can't access....
How can it be a gravesite when no body is left. Yes the ship is the resting place of the 1500 people who lost their lives . But no body is left there to call it a gravesite , and it's rusting day by day. Raising it ( which is a very expensive and hard task ) and putting it in a museum or gravesite will be a good idea.
If we were to raise anything before the ship is completely gone, it would be the portion of the hull that hit the iceberg, even though it is buried in the ocean floor. It would be nice to study that part of the hull and learn more about the impact that brought the ship down.
@@ddbrock9675 I didn't say I had all the answers 😁. Seriously though, hopefully before she fully disappears maybe the technology will be there to "dig" out that section of the ship. Anyway though, the rusticles have probably eaten away at that part of the ship from the inside and slamming into the ocean floor digging into the mud may have damaged the rupture to make it difficult to truely examine the hull at that point.
I personally believe that we shouldn’t mess with the ship because of the fact that it’s a gravesite however I do believe that we should rebuild her 1:1 as a standing museum
If the Titanic was meant to be raised she wouldn’t have sunk in the first place. However she has and now she should be left for nature to take its course
There are no actual bodies ANYWHERE near the Titanic as obviously they’re all gone. Secondly, do you have any idea how many people have died in the history of the world? It’s extremely likely you’re standing right now where someone died (even several people). It’s also very likely your house is built where several people also died, but you’re not complaining about that, right? It’s annoying how people complain about petty things. One last thing, no one complains about the 9/11 memorial and museum, when it’s exactly the same thing. Y’all need to be less sensitive.
If this is a goddamn grave site so are hospitals, highways, railroads, a lot of homes. That’s not to mention areas such as ground zero. It’s pretty hard to think of so many individuals and so many families that are impacted in tragedies. Would you gather a memorial to the victims of 9/11? Or leave a large section of nyc looking like a GODDAMN MF ATOMIC BOMB WENT OFF!? Your logic here is pretty frickin stupid
It's a grave SITE. Not a grave. Not a trace of dead humans or pets to be found. The only organic stuff on that ship would be the living creatures and worms that were born or hatched relatively recently.
Raising the titanic is something I feel conflicted about. The nerd side of me wants it to be raised because I would love for it to be preserved considering it’s a piece of history, and I would really like to see it in person. The morally correct side of me wants it to be left alone because it is a grave site, not an attraction, and that’s realistically how it should stay. We already have so many artifacts that were taken from the wreck, the actual ship should be left where it is
Honestly, if there is any salvage operation in the future, it should be geared towards the raising of the Britannic. She is in MUCH better shape and in shallower waters (~ 390m).
I'd like to see more artifacts being raised and placed into museums, however I think the ship itself should stay put as it's the final resting place of alot of souls.
You can raise all the steam engines so you can build a complete replica and raise things that you can and what you can’t then make the part. See if Harland & Wolff would rebuild the ship but leave it on the ground permanently cause you can’t sail her she doesn’t have the up to date technology it’s all 1912 technologies but you can rent out the rooms, open the eating salloons and do tours through the whole ship. Build her at her old slipway and keep her there. People are so big into Titanic they come from around the globe and pay to stay on Titanic it be great fantastic!
Yes but do they know what the side that’s down on the bottom looks like? I imagine peeling a banana when they tried to lift it up, especially now since it’s pretty much turning into a reef of marine life.
Yes, but like the sumer guy said, what is on the side resting on the sea bed and it is potentially disrupting an ecosystem because it is a reef pretty much
I say raise it and let me tell you why... The whole reason we are able to have this conversation, The whole reason we are able to go down and see it with submersibles and submarines, the whole reason we continuously study it is because the structure is still there. Once it finally deteriorates everything is lost. All future research, all data and 3D imaging... Everything. It'll all be gone forever. You want to talk about a grave site? Well, technically we have so many pieces of the Titanic and artifacts from it, It's almost like grave robbing right? It's not like the imprint and all of the debris at the seafloor will disappear. It'll still be there. But wouldn't you much rather be able to see the Titanic years from now or another 100 years from now instead of only having memories of people mentioning it who have actually went down to see it? So you might as well just pull it up. Sure. It might crumble up a little on his way up, but we have people who put together dinosaur bones and things way harder than that. It can definitely be done
Thing is fossils were in the ground of the earth water eats away at things over time and the metal has to be dealt with because it has fragile parts the only thing that could survive is the haul if you’re lucky
Lifting a 40,000 ton vessel from 3800 meters? No amount of money could do it. Its absolutely impossible with current technology. It took a major bit of effort to raise a 40,000 lb piece and it failed the first time. The ship would disintegrate on its way up. Then even if you got it to the surface, how and where do you bring it to shore to a safe place for preservation? I don't think you understand how insane this idea is. Its easier to put a man on the moon than raise a busted up ship that's been at the bottom of the Atlantic for 111 years.
@@theshapeexists It's scientifically impossible. Unless they took it up piece by piece like the big piece. Even then, it would be a monumental task and trying to take pieces off the ship still attached would also make it collapse in on itself. Now what we should do is try to find a way to halt the deterioration of the ship for as long as possible for furtherstudy if not. we should at least collect what remains on the ocean floor in the debris field. But the ship should be left alone.
Trust me...the technology is there...but it's technology "they" don't want the public to know exists yet...we could have had that ship out cleaned and on display long ago..and like this comment said...yes it may crumble and pieces will fall on its journey up but I bet the majority of that stern will be there and could be preserved with technology well into the future...and that's the main part of the ship anyways...all furniture should be recovered as well...and if the rooms they belonged to can't be received they can be displayed in mock set ups. This is history. Not just a grave site.
I know 2 ways 1. We can drain the whole ocean or 2. We can somehow create an artificial island by getting a hard and floating material beneath the whole debris field that would float on the surface then and nothing would have to be raised or moved The problem is both are kinda impossible missions to do and the question is, why would we even do that. We can create an exact copy of Titanic that could even sail like it did originally, and even that project did not ever finish...
can we actually raise the titanic honestly I have never asked that question even back when they found it in 1985 cause she was already to badly degraded even back then and nope I didn't care even back then I would say just build a new one it's more realistic over raising that old ship
raise the titanic. Ra ra ra raise it! Raise the titanic ra ra ra raise it! Yeahhhhh we’re gonna raise that ship don’t gimme no lip ra ra ra raise it ra ra ra raise it!
I’d love to see this ship raised. There would be lots of benefits. If we were to preserve it in a body of water the descendents of victims could pay their respects and have things placed in their rooms (considering they had a room in the bow) another reason I see it being awsome to raise is no one else obsesses over a ship more then the titanic and for something like that to be brought up and made a public grave sight would be nice. Everyone could pay their respects without having to pay loads of money and ultimately if you believe in spiritual stuff like that the spirits would be happy and content being remembered and appreciated.
I know that most of you won't like this but, what if we built a box, with walls of 30 inches thick steel, put it around the Titanic, and slowly heat up the water, maybe even the pressure will lower, so the Titanic gets used to the new temperature and "pressure". There could be a robot or 2 clearing the sand around the front part of the Titanic's Bow, which could also help reveal the iceberg marks, this will help us also know what really caused the Titanic to sink. The Titanic would slowly get used to the new temperature and pressure, and inside the box could also be lights that help see the Titanic easier. Then we could surround the Titanic with Scaffold-like-metal-frames, that will hold the structure up both inside and outside, then we could raise the Titanic with any idea, electromagnets, air balloons/tanks, cranes etc.
At some stage there were (are?) talks about possibly raising the Marconi radio but that would have meant drilling a hole in the hull to get inside to reach the radio room. Is that still up or what? What's the story? Thanks and keep these videos coming, they are literally intoxicating (and i don't mean that in a bad way!)
Keep in mind that most everything that have brought up for museums are from the debris field. With continual deterioration there maybe a chance to photograph places inside the ship previously unreachable. Currently the pool is behind bulkheads and watertight doors. This may change in the future.
About 'Raise the Titanic ', yeah you gotta give it cred for the tech of the day and what was known. The description fits the book, so ya can't knock that. Superbly done for a miniature, and to be honest, a lot of old movie buffs love the miniature/stop motion/old methods look of these older films. Like a 57 Chevy, sure it wouldn't be up to the play for modern use/traffic/ease of use/performance/safety, -but I reckon the greater portion of people would think it's just cool. A CGI version of RTT would look uggs.
That movie irked me because they didn't even have the railings along the front of the ship. One of the most visibly noticeable features of the ship that could be seen in easily researched photographs and drawings from well before that movie was made.
Instead of trying to figure out how to raise it, maybe concentrate on figuring out how to dig the front right side. Send unmanned excavating subs down to scrap and dig the mud away. To try and see what the iceberg damage may look like. Some say it tore into the side, but some speculate that the Titanic's under belly was gouged open instead. Maybe both. Only way to know for sure, is to dig. 🤔
If it was my choice whether or not to raise the Titanic, I would say no. It’s a massive graveyard of those who were taken too soon and there is already so much that we’ve learned from researchers and artifacts that have been salvaged. Let those who have passed and the Titanic itself rest in piece and let nature take its course.
I think the Titanic should definately be left because she is a grave but a few more artifacts should be brought up like more pieces of the ship. I personally think the sister ship Britannic should maybe possibly be raised, much better condition.
Best option may be to cut it up and lift it out piece by piece. It may be possible to lift it out without cutting, but could cost 50 billion+ of trial and error to end up with a mangled pile of debris that no longer resembles the shipwreck. Piece by piece makes more sense if the steel is still usable.
The only choice is cut the bow in sections and get rid of those part prone to collapse or those that have already done it. I guess it could be done from the expansion joint to the very bow.
All we need is a time traveling machine that can take us back to 1912 and let us talk to the Captain or who ever in charge to avoid hitting that damn iceberg to save the day 🧐
Actually impossible. You wouldn't have thought of going back to warn the captain because the ship never sunk in reality. Now,in our reality, the ship sunk and going back in time to warn the captain is no use because the ship is destined to sunk anyway. The captain would dismissed you immediately because youre not part of the ship crew. Just some weird looking individual with weird fashion and weird hairstyles and weird gadgets.
Leave her on the bottom of the ocean, raising her is impossible and will destroy what remains of her. Shes in her finally resting place. Rest in peace titanic
1- take all the photos and videos possible of the entire wreck for the last time. try to recover some extra things (maybe a propeller and other cool stuff). Put all in museums. Leave the original ship rest in peace. 2- make two ships: 1) an exact copy of Olympic, using the original plans, same materials, everything. Everything looking exactly as it was in it's glorious days. Preserve it as a museum ship, and use it for special trips once or twice a year (events, anniversaries, etc). 2) a copy of the Titanic, but equiped with modern technology and amenities, powered by modern engines, etc. And this one could be something more like a modern cruise ship, but with the aesthetic of a 1900s ship. There you have it: the original as a memorial, an exact clone representing all the Olympic class in all it's glory, and a modern and safe one for tourists and fanatics. Everybody happy. Now we need to find some hundreds of millions of dollars to make this possible haha
Im surprised some billionaire hasnt done this by now, they would make so much money out of doing private cruises as a Museum / Actual Ocean Liner / Docked Hotel. The fucker would make millions a year gross after paying staff, amenities etc.
I don't really see it as worth the effort for either memorial or scientific reasons, personally. I think the current ultra-high definition 3d scan is enough of a memorial. Though I do agree a scan of the interior would be amazing as well. As for if we could have lifted the bow in its 1980 condition, I'm not one hundred percent on that. I recently watched Cameron's simulation of the sinking, if there's a newer one please direct me to it, but when the bow hit bottom it seemed to have broken it's back. I'd not be surprised if its internal superstructure is shattered and the outside plating is what is holding most of it together. I feel even if it could have been raised immediately after sinking the structural integrity was catastrophically compromised. I think it would be like trying to pick up a sand castle with your hands.
A lift ship that is submerged can support lifted sections that can be rested upon it and be transported under water, but the bow section is too far structurally weak to be moved or pulled out of the sand where it buried itself on impact, you could raise boilers parts of the double bottom but not the ship itself.
I wouldn’t want to bother the dead, but at the same time I have always wondered how bad is the pollution caused by the Titanic, and is it still causing any pollution? By this time I would assume that the worst has already happened, and it can’t get any worse.
You won't find bodies at the titanic. I doubt the ghosts of those who were lost like captain Smith, first officer murdoch and Thomas andrews would mind if at least a portion of the ship was raised. Personally I'd outright refuse to raise anything from the ship.
We never bothered the dead because theyre dead. If anything bothers them,its not the human contact but the way they the end up down there. So they bothered by the ship itself more than us that still alive.
1:22 This is pretty funny if you know the story behind the movie, is the Model cost $10 million to build, the movie went so over budget it pretty much bankrupted the studio that made it and ended the career of it's producer Lew Grade, his famous quote about the movie was "It would have been cheaper to lower the Atlantic."
regarding the film "Raise the Titanic", I once read a quote from the Producer, Sir Lew Grade, that it would have been cheaper to have lowered the Atlantic ! Nice funny quote from a man wo had to supply the cash.
@@krissyhenderson4089 I remember driving through there in 1990 on my way to Florida. I remember how run down and dirty it was, but right in the middle of this messy street was the prettiest palm tree just growing there. Thats what I remember about Alexandria
It would be cool if we COULD recover the Titanic from the Atlantic, but I also wouldn't mind if we left her alone in peace. Now, if we could build an exact replica of her, I'd be all for it. Seems a bit hard to do, though...
I wish the olympic was just never scrapped it was the closest thing to the titanic and it would've made an amazing attraction being able to tour basically the same ship and see what it was almost like on the titanic and yes ive heard of the titanic 2 being built but it will be a modernized titanic im talking a ship truly from that era in time the boilers the old wood working on the insides it would be incredible id love to see a true recreation of the original titanic built to be docked and as a tourist attraction
I'm fine with some small stuff like the whistles being recovered, but the ship as a whole and the belongings of her victims should be left to return to nature.
Even if we can, we shouldn’t. It is the site of a mass grave and shouldn’t be disturbed any more than it already has been. Just like leaving the USS Arizona in its’ resting place. Let those who died rest in peace.
It's called a 'shipwreck' for a reason. Wrecked and rusting for 112 years, two and a half miles down. Build an unpowered replica as a museum/luxurious hotel. Coastal cities would likely clamor like a bunch of seagulls to have it docked there.
I really think it needs to be left alone it is a resting place for so many people maybe preserving some things but honestly I'd think of the family as it would upset them im all for showing how nice titanic was
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Being forgotten is worst, but I agree that it should be left just because of age, but artifact wise, like the communication lines take em take as much as possible except the boots.
Are they end up down there in a very respectful manners? Its a no right?Nobody on the ship feels happy when the ship started to sink. So doing anything to the old metal ship is nothing respectful nor disrespectful. If you believe in spiritual thing and we were capable of raising the ship,im convinced the victim would make a big party on the ship knowing they would be able to see the light of the day again. God said let there be light.
The irony is the very thing that Destroyed the Titanic also made her immortal to humans. Had she never sank that night she probably would have either ended up scrapped (like one of her sister ships in the 30's) or requisitioned during ww2 and probably sunk (like her other sister ship). The Titanic would have at best become a footnote in history.
The best way to “raise” the Titanic is take 3D photos of the wreckage and build its state on land so that anyone can explore what it looks like in its current state. I think it can be possible with our current technology, if not, then pretty soon.
"Raise the Titanic" cost $20 million to make, which was a lot of money in the 1970s (for context, the original Star Trek film, at the time of release, was the most expensive film ever made, coming in at $42 million). The model Titanic cost $7m.
It is a kind of resting place, which should be left alone, so much has already been done and I find diving to see the wreck up close towards it scary and lurid.
I think God is trying to tell us, "Leave the damn thing alone." Dunno... sooo freakin' creepy and haunting when you see the photos taken in the past 35 years.
I firmly believe that yes we can raise the wreckage. We pulled up a sunken russian sub loaded with nuclear weapons several decades ago, we can get the wreckage up. However, what would we be raising? Chunks of the steel hull. Broken, rusting internal steel girders. Rotting electronic boards, light bulbs, ceramic work in the pool and steam rooms. Some lamps. By the time it hits the surface, it's not going to look like pieces of the ship, rather more like a wet, floating junk yard. So again, can we? Yes. Better question is "To what end?"
If We Do Want To Raise The Titanic, The Best Bet Would Be To Slowly Cut Pieces Off The Ship Then Raise Those Pieces Until We Have Most, If Not All Of What’s Left Of The Ship, Then We Leave It On Display In A Way Where All The Parts Are Shaped To Still Look Like The Wreck, But Reattaching All The Pieces Would Be To Risky
The best option we have are just to recover items from the titanic so that we have memories of the titanic and the people that parished during this event, cause the ship is slowly disappearing.
I don't view it as morally wrong to raise the titanic in order to keep the memory and legency of it alive for future generations to remember once it corrodes away in the ocean who exactly would be to blame for that the sea? so long as we respectfully raise the titanic and preserve it's legacy I don't see a problem with raising it
It would have to be broken apart and then pulled up piece by piece. Each piece would have to go trough extensive treatment. Then rigged back together in a fashion that would look like a ship.
My best theory is to slide a huge steel plate 60 or more feet below the Titanic, and lift it with the corners of the plate. That way it comes up with the sand/dirt its buried in, without compromising the structural integrity of the ship. It would just fall apart in a million pieces any other way.
Man I can’t believe a lot of people were literally all about wanting to resurrect that thing I’m like no it’s a graveyard don’t disrespect the dead. As a kid I thought it was a good idea but as soon as I hit my teens and then now I’m fully an adult I literally just look at this like yeah that’s not possible. Quite frankly that whole thing would break upon even taking it up to the surface I mean a small piece they tried to take out in the 90s which they did I mean they I think tried the first time it broke off then the next time they managed to get it. It’s just not possible to get that what are used to be the most spectacular ship of dreams until it well met a horrible end. Strangely enough, I started watching that movie when I was seven that was like 1999. Now it’s like yeah I think it’s better off to be left alone the titanic.
If it were raised what could it be useful for? It couldn't be restored. How about making a new one exactly from the original blueprints using period materials and methods and have it done as close to the original construction site as possible? No modernization. At least it would be useful as a historical representation.
Thank you for making a film like this I enjoyed watching your film I'm a big fan of White Star Line a model of the Titanic Olympic Britannic ships and do you think they'll make a Titanic 2 ship if you hear anything can you make a video on it thank you
Personally, the last thing that would be left standing is going to be the triple expansion steam engines, even though the stern has finally collapsed those engines are standing strong!
I think it would be good if we managed to salvage some more artifacts and if we took more pictures of the interiors and the debris field while we can. That said, anything salvaged should strictly stay in museums, no private sales.
Das. Alles ist. Diebstahl
I agree. The only exception that I would make with that is if one of the artifacts could be given to proven descendant of a Titanic passenger.
They said that the pool room with the water tight door is still sealed so maybe they can maybe scuba dive and use some sort of tool to open it and see if the pool is in the best condition it is maybe they can just try to break of that room or maybe bring some stuff from it
@@thealexshow2890 You cannot scuba dive that deep, the pressure would crush you to death before your brain could even register what's going on.
@@martinab676Right
I think the only way to dry the Titanic without destroying it, is to build around it a huge 4000 meters high wall bold enough to withstand surrounding ocean pressure, and pump out water from inside. But this world be the most difficult, expensive and biggest construction ever built by humanity.
And physically impossible
@@410cultivar it is possible, go through the story for lost phone in dam in India.
@@lkhs08 it's not possible. You're talking about completely different pressures and water quality.
It's not possible
@@lkhs08 it's so deep we couldn't even build a small structure and pump it out.
@@410cultivarwe thought the earth was flat for thousands of years , what’s impossible again?
I think the best option to see an Olympic class ship on the surface would be to build a replica of one of them as a museum
You are right. I mean If a half scale titanic can be built for a museum, surely someone can build a full scale replica as a museum ship in of itself.
Titanic 2 is in production. No not the movie. They’re supposed to be making a working replica of the Titanic. Obviously to capitalize on high priced tickets to go on trips on it
@@JustinLodesthey stopped building it, there wont be a Titanic II. im sorry to tell
The better option is to raise the Brittanic, reasons:
It is in better condition
It literally identical,
The only problem with it is the bow
And it is just better than titanic
@@kurnass2000 Cut the stern, weld shut the hole, straighten the ship, raise it. Tow it to dry dock, and make a new stern section for it.
Even in 1985 when it was found, it would still have been impossible. The structure was already compromised heavily when it hit the sea bed. And even by 1985 rusticles had largely consumed the ship, and bringing it back up 2 miles to the surface from the incredible pressure of 12500 feet on the Atlantic floor, taking into consideration that, like the video says that the ship's been resting in freezing waters for over a century, it's just not doable. Plus, the titanic is humongous.
All the more reason to do it
Let me add something to consider: Every part of the ship below the sea floor is considered to look basically brand new, except of course to the crashing damage, so down under, Titanic should still be pretty much intact.
@@carloscollomps1552 unfortunately no, rusticles have consumed pretty much the whole wreck, and any attempt to raise it will cause it to disintegrate. Besides, it's a monument to a legend and an incredibly unfortunate tragecy, and it's the poignant thing to do, to let the ocean eventually consume the wreck where it rested.
Titanic is an artifact, you can't tell me people wouldn't be interested in a piece of Titanic by claiming pieces of it.If it's not an artifact,at the very least, that ship belongs at the Smithsonian,like Lindbergh plane.
I agree there are challenges to remove Titanic from the ocean floor. But remember science always had a way to work out,and hopefully some scientific genius can work out the calculus to figure exactly how many lift bags are needed to bring that glorious ship to the surface. Me I would be interested in just taking pictures with me posing next to it.
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TITANIC is in such a state of disrepair that the only thing holding it together is the mud and the few rivets still on the ship that haven't rusted away
That's probably true, but more importantly that rusty old shipwreck should be left alone, she's also a Mass grave yard and should be respected as such. Leave her alone, let her rest. Besides even if someone could raise her that wouldn't erase the tragedy or bring back the poor souls that lost her lives on board the Titanic on that fateful night back in 1912
I would say using underwater laser cutters and breaking off 10 to 1000 ton slabs at a time with the help of lift bags. There's a chance to take small sections at a time, then piece them together -weld them. I think that is the best solution. Titanic is a big ship, raising it is an enormous engineering task. But I think the best solution is preserving pieces of Titanic in museums before it's lost to the salt water forever.
I have a watch made from titanic metal :-)) Also ..many other pieces of memrobella ? I am a small private collecter - and wouldn't part with them for the world! Such a privalge to own! :-))
Oh wow, if that's true,then yes,well that's amazing. Good for you. That's wonderful, then you are a true Titanic history buff and avid collector. What's your take on maybe raising Titanic,and taking pieces off, and giving a piece of Titanic as a souvenir to everybody? I think that money could go to charities.
I would say it would cost a tremendous amount of money but I'm sure if they opened up a huge museum with the pieces they could recover the cost maybe. It would have to be by some billionaire that loves the history behind it though.
@@michaelb1766 Well..there won't be enough to give everybody ..but definately go after the rich who evade taxes and give that money to everybody who needs it ..which in theory a democratic society is meant to do..
So I guess It is safe to say that unless there is a pardighm shift anytime soon from corporate welfare to humility welfare.. it's not going to happen?! "Charity begins at home"..and I'm all for it! :-) Titanic for me though is the greatest metaphor in the power of mother nature that ever was and with such grace and beauty! I do indeed have valuable Titanic memrobella, however, the most intrinsic value is the legendary tale for which it represents and to never take things for granted - cherish the memories and hold them in our hearts forever ...which is what the Titanic story does for me?! Tragedy magnificence and love all combined! 💥❤
@@youtubehatesfreespeech2436 Yeah...or crowd funding of some kind? I think we should recover as much as we can from Titanic ... and other shipwrecks as well? Build a museum to house them all...would definately work?! :-)
Leave it. We have a disturbing fascination with disturbing the dead. Its a gravesite. Its also a legend and deserves to remain one. Just because it'll eventually rust and disappear in the physical sense doesn't mean it'll be gone. Its history and history is never forgotten. 💯
Technically it's not considered a gravesite anymore cause it's been more than 75 years....if they can raise it I say go ahead...it'll be ruined eventually anyway....and what if your kids or someone else's kids could go to a museum and see a piece of the rms Titanic...or the items locked away in the rooms we can't access....
My dude it’s disintegrating wdym a gravesite
@@devin4894I’m with you pal
How can it be a gravesite when no body is left. Yes the ship is the resting place of the 1500 people who lost their lives . But no body is left there to call it a gravesite , and it's rusting day by day. Raising it ( which is a very expensive and hard task ) and putting it in a museum or gravesite will be a good idea.
They’re dead. You won’t be disturbing anyone.
Think about that next time you’re on the highway or interstate 😂
If we were to raise anything before the ship is completely gone, it would be the portion of the hull that hit the iceberg, even though it is buried in the ocean floor. It would be nice to study that part of the hull and learn more about the impact that brought the ship down.
...and how do you propose to dig it from the mud?
@@ddbrock9675underwater doggo in pressure suits
@@JojoFasold this is the FBI, stay where you are
Yes talking about 50 feet of mud
@@ddbrock9675 I didn't say I had all the answers 😁. Seriously though, hopefully before she fully disappears maybe the technology will be there to "dig" out that section of the ship. Anyway though, the rusticles have probably eaten away at that part of the ship from the inside and slamming into the ocean floor digging into the mud may have damaged the rupture to make it difficult to truely examine the hull at that point.
I personally believe that we shouldn’t mess with the ship because of the fact that it’s a gravesite however I do believe that we should rebuild her 1:1 as a standing museum
If the Titanic was meant to be raised she wouldn’t have sunk in the first place. However she has and now she should be left for nature to take its course
whos gonna pay for that, you?
There are no actual bodies ANYWHERE near the Titanic as obviously they’re all gone. Secondly, do you have any idea how many people have died in the history of the world? It’s extremely likely you’re standing right now where someone died (even several people). It’s also very likely your house is built where several people also died, but you’re not complaining about that, right? It’s annoying how people complain about petty things. One last thing, no one complains about the 9/11 memorial and museum, when it’s exactly the same thing. Y’all need to be less sensitive.
If this is a goddamn grave site so are hospitals, highways, railroads, a lot of homes. That’s not to mention areas such as ground zero. It’s pretty hard to think of so many individuals and so many families that are impacted in tragedies. Would you gather a memorial to the victims of 9/11? Or leave a large section of nyc looking like a GODDAMN MF ATOMIC BOMB WENT OFF!? Your logic here is pretty frickin stupid
It's a grave SITE. Not a grave. Not a trace of dead humans or pets to be found. The only organic stuff on that ship would be the living creatures and worms that were born or hatched relatively recently.
I hope they recover more artifacts - it's the same as what the archaeologists have done with ancient Egyptian tombs etc.
Raising the titanic is something I feel conflicted about. The nerd side of me wants it to be raised because I would love for it to be preserved considering it’s a piece of history, and I would really like to see it in person. The morally correct side of me wants it to be left alone because it is a grave site, not an attraction, and that’s realistically how it should stay. We already have so many artifacts that were taken from the wreck, the actual ship should be left where it is
Honestly, if there is any salvage operation in the future, it should be geared towards the raising of the Britannic. She is in MUCH better shape and in shallower waters (~ 390m).
I actually liked Raise the Titanic, Thought it was pretty good considering the budget and information they had.
Lew grade actually said the budget was high and it would have been cheaper to raise the thing. Obviously a joke but the budget was still pretty high.
It was a big budget film and the effects for 1980 are amazing
I'd like to see more artifacts being raised and placed into museums, however I think the ship itself should stay put as it's the final resting place of alot of souls.
You can raise all the steam engines so you can build a complete replica and raise things that you can and what you can’t then make the part.
See if Harland & Wolff would rebuild the ship but leave it on the ground permanently cause you can’t sail her she doesn’t have the up to date technology it’s all 1912 technologies but you can rent out the rooms, open the eating salloons and do tours through the whole ship.
Build her at her old slipway and keep her there.
People are so big into Titanic they come from around the globe and pay to stay on Titanic it be great fantastic!
I’d say raise the Britannic, it’s only 400 feet below the surface and very well preserved.
Yes but do they know what the side that’s down on the bottom looks like? I imagine peeling a banana when they tried to lift it up, especially now since it’s pretty much turning into a reef of marine life.
Thank you! You got the right idea.
Yes, but like the sumer guy said, what is on the side resting on the sea bed and it is potentially disrupting an ecosystem because it is a reef pretty much
Sounds better
Why would you raise the titanic when you could raise her sister in only 485 feet of water plus in much better condition
It's so deteriorated that it'd fall apart as soon as any force was applied to it. IMO, we should just let it rest in peace at the bottom of the ocean.
I say raise it and let me tell you why... The whole reason we are able to have this conversation, The whole reason we are able to go down and see it with submersibles and submarines, the whole reason we continuously study it is because the structure is still there. Once it finally deteriorates everything is lost. All future research, all data and 3D imaging... Everything. It'll all be gone forever. You want to talk about a grave site? Well, technically we have so many pieces of the Titanic and artifacts from it, It's almost like grave robbing right? It's not like the imprint and all of the debris at the seafloor will disappear. It'll still be there. But wouldn't you much rather be able to see the Titanic years from now or another 100 years from now instead of only having memories of people mentioning it who have actually went down to see it? So you might as well just pull it up. Sure. It might crumble up a little on his way up, but we have people who put together dinosaur bones and things way harder than that. It can definitely be done
Thing is fossils were in the ground of the earth water eats away at things over time and the metal has to be dealt with because it has fragile parts the only thing that could survive is the haul if you’re lucky
Lifting a 40,000 ton vessel from 3800 meters? No amount of money could do it. Its absolutely impossible with current technology. It took a major bit of effort to raise a 40,000 lb piece and it failed the first time. The ship would disintegrate on its way up. Then even if you got it to the surface, how and where do you bring it to shore to a safe place for preservation? I don't think you understand how insane this idea is. Its easier to put a man on the moon than raise a busted up ship that's been at the bottom of the Atlantic for 111 years.
@@theshapeexists It's scientifically impossible. Unless they took it up piece by piece like the big piece. Even then, it would be a monumental task and trying to take pieces off the ship still attached would also make it collapse in on itself. Now what we should do is try to find a way to halt the deterioration of the ship for as long as possible for furtherstudy if not. we should at least collect what remains on the ocean floor in the debris field. But the ship should be left alone.
Trust me...the technology is there...but it's technology "they" don't want the public to know exists yet...we could have had that ship out cleaned and on display long ago..and like this comment said...yes it may crumble and pieces will fall on its journey up but I bet the majority of that stern will be there and could be preserved with technology well into the future...and that's the main part of the ship anyways...all furniture should be recovered as well...and if the rooms they belonged to can't be received they can be displayed in mock set ups. This is history. Not just a grave site.
@@justinskyyasmr429 The stern is blown to pieces.
I believe the propellers one day could be raised, but not for a long time. They are made of brass and will persist long after the ship.
8:38 aged like cheese rip
Easier to build new one 1:1 than to pull it from the bottom of the ocean
I know 2 ways
1. We can drain the whole ocean
or
2. We can somehow create an artificial island by getting a hard and floating material beneath the whole debris field that would float on the surface then and nothing would have to be raised or moved
The problem is both are kinda impossible missions to do and the question is, why would we even do that. We can create an exact copy of Titanic that could even sail like it did originally, and even that project did not ever finish...
can we actually raise the titanic honestly I have never asked that question even back when they found it in 1985 cause she was already to badly degraded even back then
and nope I didn't care even back then I would say just build a new one it's more realistic over raising that old ship
raise the titanic. Ra ra ra raise it! Raise the titanic ra ra ra raise it! Yeahhhhh we’re gonna raise that ship don’t gimme no lip ra ra ra raise it ra ra ra raise it!
I’d love to see this ship raised. There would be lots of benefits. If we were to preserve it in a body of water the descendents of victims could pay their respects and have things placed in their rooms (considering they had a room in the bow) another reason I see it being awsome to raise is no one else obsesses over a ship more then the titanic and for something like that to be brought up and made a public grave sight would be nice. Everyone could pay their respects without having to pay loads of money and ultimately if you believe in spiritual stuff like that the spirits would be happy and content being remembered and appreciated.
Now you are just being silly. What are you planning to preserve exactly. The sink is nothing more than a rotten piece of wood.
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I know that most of you won't like this but, what if we built a box, with walls of 30 inches thick steel, put it around the Titanic, and slowly heat up the water, maybe even the pressure will lower, so the Titanic gets used to the new temperature and "pressure". There could be a robot or 2 clearing the sand around the front part of the Titanic's Bow, which could also help reveal the iceberg marks, this will help us also know what really caused the Titanic to sink. The Titanic would slowly get used to the new temperature and pressure, and inside the box could also be lights that help see the Titanic easier. Then we could surround the Titanic with Scaffold-like-metal-frames, that will hold the structure up both inside and outside, then we could raise the Titanic with any idea, electromagnets, air balloons/tanks, cranes etc.
The Titanic lays at a depth of 4 miles. You do understand that right
It would be cool to at least raise the very front of the bow. The iconic front of the ship.
The big piece didn’t crumble... i think it is possible to do, if some had the money to spend on it
I'm dialing Elon Musk now.......
I agree, it won’t crumble, even the experts tested the steel and said it would be possible if enough money was thrown at the idea
No the best stoped try remote the titanic
At some stage there were (are?) talks about possibly raising the Marconi radio but that would have meant drilling a hole in the hull to get inside to reach the radio room. Is that still up or what?
What's the story?
Thanks and keep these videos coming, they are literally intoxicating (and i don't mean that in a bad way!)
Keep in mind that most everything that have brought up for museums are from the debris field. With continual deterioration there maybe a chance to photograph places inside the ship previously unreachable. Currently the pool is behind bulkheads and watertight doors. This may change in the future.
Shame about the Renault car. Apparently it was placed in the cargo hold but no one had been able to find it since the ship sunk in 1912
All I know is that ship has a water problem they need to call the plumber
It will break apart so easily
About 'Raise the Titanic ', yeah you gotta give it cred for the tech of the day and what was known. The description fits the book, so ya can't knock that. Superbly done for a miniature, and to be honest, a lot of old movie buffs love the miniature/stop motion/old methods look of these older films. Like a 57 Chevy, sure it wouldn't be up to the play for modern use/traffic/ease of use/performance/safety, -but I reckon the greater portion of people would think it's just cool.
A CGI version of RTT would look uggs.
That movie irked me because they didn't even have the railings along the front of the ship. One of the most visibly noticeable features of the ship that could be seen in easily researched photographs and drawings from well before that movie was made.
@@VAFranky That and the tall Aquitania-style cowl vents alongside the foremast.
Instead of trying to figure out how to raise it, maybe concentrate on figuring out how to dig the front right side. Send unmanned excavating subs down to scrap and dig the mud away. To try and see what the iceberg damage may look like. Some say it tore into the side, but some speculate that the Titanic's under belly was gouged open instead. Maybe both. Only way to know for sure, is to dig. 🤔
It’s very hard just to get there to dig it out ? Impossible !!!!!!!!! the pressure too great will crush anything like tin can!!
If it was my choice whether or not to raise the Titanic, I would say no. It’s a massive graveyard of those who were taken too soon and there is already so much that we’ve learned from researchers and artifacts that have been salvaged. Let those who have passed and the Titanic itself rest in piece and let nature take its course.
They're dead. How can the dead rest in peace? They dont have the physical form anymore to experiencing the peaceful state of mind and body.
Bring up what you can IMO, some things deserve to be preserved
I think the Titanic should definately be left because she is a grave but a few more artifacts should be brought up like more pieces of the ship. I personally think the sister ship Britannic should maybe possibly be raised, much better condition.
Nobody cares on your opinion, hopefully we can raise it and put it in a museum
How rude!?! But I probably still argee to raise the titanic I was planning some submarine that can lift a titanic
@@michaeltrumph121nobody cares about yours either
Raising the Captains bath tub for one. Apparently it is easy to get too as the outer wall of the Titanic has come away from its hinges
take the most recognisable things - the bell, the anchor, the propellers. leave everything else. you can have it both ways.
Finally SOMEONE has common sense!
Take the captain too. Hes still down trapped waiting to be saved.
People are saying, raise the Titanic when you got her sibling Britannic, which is in for a better condition and far closer to the surface
Best option may be to cut it up and lift it out piece by piece. It may be possible to lift it out without cutting, but could cost 50 billion+ of trial and error to end up with a mangled pile of debris that no longer resembles the shipwreck. Piece by piece makes more sense if the steel is still usable.
You should do a video if britannic can be raised.
The only choice is cut the bow in sections and get rid of those part prone to collapse or those that have already done it. I guess it could be done from the expansion joint to the very bow.
All we need is a time traveling machine that can take us back to 1912 and let us talk to the Captain or who ever in charge to avoid hitting that damn iceberg to save the day 🧐
No No No….
1912 is a fixed point in time. You go messing around with the past and history changes
You can't change fate as fate always finds away
If the ship never sunk we would have never went into the past to tell the to avoid the iceberg therefore the ship would have to hit the iceberg
But then Titanic wouldn't be so well known and a legend, we wouldn't have gotten the titanic movie. We wouldn't have gotten this conversation.
Actually impossible. You wouldn't have thought of going back to warn the captain because the ship never sunk in reality. Now,in our reality, the ship sunk and going back in time to warn the captain is no use because the ship is destined to sunk anyway. The captain would dismissed you immediately because youre not part of the ship crew. Just some weird looking individual with weird fashion and weird hairstyles and weird gadgets.
Leave her on the bottom of the ocean, raising her is impossible and will destroy what remains of her. Shes in her finally resting place. Rest in peace titanic
1- take all the photos and videos possible of the entire wreck for the last time. try to recover some extra things (maybe a propeller and other cool stuff). Put all in museums. Leave the original ship rest in peace.
2- make two ships: 1) an exact copy of Olympic, using the original plans, same materials, everything. Everything looking exactly as it was in it's glorious days. Preserve it as a museum ship, and use it for special trips once or twice a year (events, anniversaries, etc). 2) a copy of the Titanic, but equiped with modern technology and amenities, powered by modern engines, etc. And this one could be something more like a modern cruise ship, but with the aesthetic of a 1900s ship.
There you have it: the original as a memorial, an exact clone representing all the Olympic class in all it's glory, and a modern and safe one for tourists and fanatics.
Everybody happy.
Now we need to find some hundreds of millions of dollars to make this possible haha
Im surprised some billionaire hasnt done this by now, they would make so much money out of doing private cruises as a Museum / Actual Ocean Liner / Docked Hotel. The fucker would make millions a year gross after paying staff, amenities etc.
@@ZyMaverick there was supposed to be a Titanic 2, but there hasnt been any updates on how the building is going since 2018
@@77tt33 Yeah they might have dropped it
Exactly….there are plenty of things that could be taken from the debris field like champagne bottles, plates. Just leave the ship alone
I liked the ice argument....if we can freeze we could bring it up without damageing it and without exposing it to tempatures
I don't really see it as worth the effort for either memorial or scientific reasons, personally. I think the current ultra-high definition 3d scan is enough of a memorial. Though I do agree a scan of the interior would be amazing as well. As for if we could have lifted the bow in its 1980 condition, I'm not one hundred percent on that. I recently watched Cameron's simulation of the sinking, if there's a newer one please direct me to it, but when the bow hit bottom it seemed to have broken it's back. I'd not be surprised if its internal superstructure is shattered and the outside plating is what is holding most of it together. I feel even if it could have been raised immediately after sinking the structural integrity was catastrophically compromised. I think it would be like trying to pick up a sand castle with your hands.
WTF cant people just leave this graveyard alone ..I find the obsession with Titanic to be bordering on a mental illness
No it's not a grave, stop with this crap.
We could finally raise that awesome propeller. But what would this iconic wreck be without it´s awesome propeller sticking out on the stern?
A lift ship that is submerged can support lifted sections that can be rested upon it and be transported under water, but the bow section is too far structurally weak to be moved or pulled out of the sand where it buried itself on impact, you could raise boilers parts of the double bottom but not the ship itself.
I wouldn’t want to bother the dead, but at the same time I have always wondered how bad is the pollution caused by the Titanic, and is it still causing any pollution? By this time I would assume that the worst has already happened, and it can’t get any worse.
You won't find bodies at the titanic. I doubt the ghosts of those who were lost like captain Smith, first officer murdoch and Thomas andrews would mind if at least a portion of the ship was raised. Personally I'd outright refuse to raise anything from the ship.
Being a coal-fired ship, it's probably less polluting on the sea bottom than a diesel ship would be
We never bothered the dead because theyre dead. If anything bothers them,its not the human contact but the way they the end up down there. So they bothered by the ship itself more than us that still alive.
1:22 This is pretty funny if you know the story behind the movie, is the Model cost $10 million to build, the movie went so over budget it pretty much bankrupted the studio that made it and ended the career of it's producer Lew Grade, his famous quote about the movie was "It would have been cheaper to lower the Atlantic."
Theres no bodys left its time to get everything possible off that ship for the preservation of history before its to late
I did not know about that movie until this video. It is free on YT so I will watch.
One question that I have is what happened to the car in Titanic cargo hold?
It actually wasn't put together and it was put in crates.
Parts of it were found , it’s disintegrated
regarding the film "Raise the Titanic", I once read a quote from the Producer, Sir Lew Grade, that it would have been cheaper to have lowered the Atlantic ! Nice funny quote from a man wo had to supply the cash.
You should do a series of best and worst cities in the US and beyond. I bet it would be hilarious.
I got a vote for alexandria Louisiana as the worst
@@krissyhenderson4089 I remember driving through there in 1990 on my way to Florida. I remember how run down and dirty it was, but right in the middle of this messy street was the prettiest palm tree just growing there. Thats what I remember about Alexandria
With the pressure on the vessel, bringing it up would probably make it explode, when it comes half way up.
It doesn’t work like that 😂
It would be cool if we COULD recover the Titanic from the Atlantic, but I also wouldn't mind if we left her alone in peace.
Now, if we could build an exact replica of her, I'd be all for it. Seems a bit hard to do, though...
The right thing is to let her rest. Build a replica and station her at harland and wolf dockyard.
Let her rest. I do think the idea of recreating it as a museum is kind of interesting.
11 minutes of someone repeating themselves.
Notice how you only have 3 likes
@Sphrerikal notice how his comment is 2 times older than mine and how 98% of replies only get a fraction of the likes.
@Sphrerikal I bet your parents wish they had a delete button
I think it was the director of "Raise the Titanic" had said the budget overruns were so high that it would have been cheaper to drain the ocean.
Maybe a really powerful Jedi could do it lol
Impossible it is, be done it must not
I wish the olympic was just never scrapped it was the closest thing to the titanic and it would've made an amazing attraction being able to tour basically the same ship and see what it was almost like on the titanic and yes ive heard of the titanic 2 being built but it will be a modernized titanic im talking a ship truly from that era in time the boilers the old wood working on the insides it would be incredible id love to see a true recreation of the original titanic built to be docked and as a tourist attraction
I'm fine with some small stuff like the whistles being recovered, but the ship as a whole and the belongings of her victims should be left to return to nature.
Even if we can, we shouldn’t. It is the site of a mass grave and shouldn’t be disturbed any more than it already has been. Just like leaving the USS Arizona in its’ resting place. Let those who died rest in peace.
Only Magneto can do it.
Or a transporter ala "Star Trek". And, sadly, we are far from that kind of technology.
It's called a 'shipwreck' for a reason. Wrecked and rusting for 112 years, two and a half miles down. Build an unpowered replica as a museum/luxurious hotel. Coastal cities would likely clamor like a bunch of seagulls to have it docked there.
I don’t know what the point would be if we tried to raise it. Just leave the ship as is.
I really think it needs to be left alone it is a resting place for so many people maybe preserving some things but honestly I'd think of the family as it would upset them im all for showing how nice titanic was
No
Would be amazing to bring it back up 👏
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@@paulanthony5274 what
@@Odurs2 What do you expect when you write all that crap. You aren't right in the head.
W.TFUCK!
You seriously need to get out more. Really
If any part of it was to be brought up I would think the anchor would be the best thing to bring up.
Even if it was possible it would be disrespectful.
Being forgotten is worst, but I agree that it should be left just because of age, but artifact wise, like the communication lines take em take as much as possible except the boots.
just calll the ghost busters
@viperoperator945 ha lol hey at least the ships ghost made it.
Are they end up down there in a very respectful manners? Its a no right?Nobody on the ship feels happy when the ship started to sink. So doing anything to the old metal ship is nothing respectful nor disrespectful. If you believe in spiritual thing and we were capable of raising the ship,im convinced the victim would make a big party on the ship knowing they would be able to see the light of the day again. God said let there be light.
Let’s get both bow and stern raised. Try and get it all glued back together and find a puddle somewhere that it can stay afloat in
The irony is the very thing that Destroyed the Titanic also made her immortal to humans. Had she never sank that night she probably would have either ended up scrapped (like one of her sister ships in the 30's) or requisitioned during ww2 and probably sunk (like her other sister ship). The Titanic would have at best become a footnote in history.
The best way to “raise” the Titanic is take 3D photos of the wreckage and build its state on land so that anyone can explore what it looks like in its current state. I think it can be possible with our current technology, if not, then pretty soon.
"Raise the Titanic" cost $20 million to make, which was a lot of money in the 1970s (for context, the original Star Trek film, at the time of release, was the most expensive film ever made, coming in at $42 million). The model Titanic cost $7m.
I would probably bring up those diamonds and gold that was left on it
Yes - I’m honestly in favour of raising the titanic Itsbin two pieces which makes it easier Where there’s a will there’s a way
It is a kind of resting place, which should be left alone, so much has already been done
and I find diving to see the wreck up close
towards it scary and lurid.
Freeze the bow section in a huge ice cube and bring it up like that
You would think that would work and I agree with you
@@tur74d56 logic suggests it has to work
I doubt it. The Titanic has been on the bottom for 111 years. It will fall apart if we raised the Titanic.
I think God is trying to tell us, "Leave the damn thing alone." Dunno... sooo freakin' creepy and haunting when you see the photos taken in the past 35 years.
There's no way you could raise it from the middle of the Atlantic now. It's just not realistic.
I firmly believe that yes we can raise the wreckage. We pulled up a sunken russian sub loaded with nuclear weapons several decades ago, we can get the wreckage up. However, what would we be raising? Chunks of the steel hull. Broken, rusting internal steel girders. Rotting electronic boards, light bulbs, ceramic work in the pool and steam rooms. Some lamps. By the time it hits the surface, it's not going to look like pieces of the ship, rather more like a wet, floating junk yard. So again, can we? Yes. Better question is "To what end?"
Yeah, the hull has had its iron removed by the water, so it needs water to keep it together or it’s just dust.
They better off bring up the sister ship because it’s way closer
If We Do Want To Raise The Titanic, The Best Bet Would Be To Slowly Cut Pieces Off The Ship Then Raise Those Pieces Until We Have Most, If Not All Of What’s Left Of The Ship, Then We Leave It On Display In A Way Where All The Parts Are Shaped To Still Look Like The Wreck, But Reattaching All The Pieces Would Be To Risky
The best option we have are just to recover items from the titanic so that we have memories of the titanic and the people that parished during this event, cause the ship is slowly disappearing.
I'll see everyone on Titanic II. Whenever it's finished...
could use explosives to break it apart then use magnet to bring it up one peice at a time
Why don't ships have giant inflatable balloons like inflatable life jackets to prevent them from sinking to the bottom?
I don't view it as morally wrong to raise the titanic in order to keep the memory and legency of it alive for future generations to remember once it corrodes away in the ocean who exactly would be to blame for that the sea? so long as we respectfully raise the titanic and preserve it's legacy I don't see a problem with raising it
It would have to be broken apart and then pulled up piece by piece. Each piece would have to go trough extensive treatment. Then rigged back together in a fashion that would look like a ship.
If the ship went down intact, no deterioration would occur, and salvage/refloating will be more likely
My best theory is to slide a huge steel plate 60 or more feet below the Titanic, and lift it with the corners of the plate. That way it comes up with the sand/dirt its buried in, without compromising the structural integrity of the ship. It would just fall apart in a million pieces any other way.
Man I can’t believe a lot of people were literally all about wanting to resurrect that thing I’m like no it’s a graveyard don’t disrespect the dead. As a kid I thought it was a good idea but as soon as I hit my teens and then now I’m fully an adult I literally just look at this like yeah that’s not possible. Quite frankly that whole thing would break upon even taking it up to the surface I mean a small piece they tried to take out in the 90s which they did I mean they I think tried the first time it broke off then the next time they managed to get it. It’s just not possible to get that what are used to be the most spectacular ship of dreams until it well met a horrible end. Strangely enough, I started watching that movie when I was seven that was like 1999. Now it’s like yeah I think it’s better off to be left alone the titanic.
If it were raised what could it be useful for? It couldn't be restored. How about making a new one exactly from the original blueprints using period materials and methods and have it done as close to the original construction site as possible? No modernization. At least it would be useful as a historical representation.
No the titanic is just so delicate you can't plus it her resting place for her and her passengers that lost their lives that night rip ❤
Thank you for making a film like this I enjoyed watching your film I'm a big fan of White Star Line a model of the Titanic Olympic Britannic ships and do you think they'll make a Titanic 2 ship if you hear anything can you make a video on it thank you
Personally, the last thing that would be left standing is going to be the triple expansion steam engines, even though the stern has finally collapsed those engines are standing strong!