Gilbert Arenas Would Take $500 Million over 5 Rings
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- Опубліковано 21 вер 2024
- What Would You Rather Have: 5 Rings or $500,000,000? as Gilbert Arenas and the Gil's Arena Crew answer the question...Would you rather have the career of Dwyane Wade or Carmelo Anthony??
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You gotta remember Gil never won in college, the NBA, and didn’t make the 08 Olympic squad. He was a real good player who won nothing. So this stance lets him feel great about his own career.
With that being said, I’d take the money.
Lol Gil did well for a guy with zero fanfare heading into the league. I'd pick the same also lol
@@WindRhythmikz wasn't he a second Rd pick? Gil was a bucket. Either you know or you don't. #14flat
@@kevinhousen2791nobody said he wasn’t a bucket… all he said was that Gil never won shit so he can’t really have a say… they should ask this question to someone like curry, lebrón etc etc those guys won and make hella bread… Gil never won at any level beside high school or somethhing
Lebron, KD, chris paul, Paul george, they're all worth alot of money, bcuz of winning, so if ur a loser u get no money unless ur the best on the team then eventually u'll ask for a trade in a heart beat bcuz u wanna win and not just 1 multiple rings, evn kwaih said nahh to money n a winning team so money isn't everything
He was a late second round pick and got a lot of success and bag. He ain’t no fool
If basketball is your passion, you do it for the winning. If basketball is your job, you do it for the money, this applies to everything in life
Its a job to get paid. When you at your job is about making the most money. I rather change my family life. Most players ring chase after getting a max contract let's be real
They are professional athletes, the word professional infers that it is infact a JOB
@@kingsweattv2465 correct the job is to make the most money like any other job
If you ain’t doing it for the money you ain’t doing it right
@@michaelfarrar4475 preach brother
Carmelo Anthony is the perfect example of this whole debate
Stop it. Owner's do it all the time. It's still a business. They a dump you in a heartbeat
To each it's own. It's not like he broke and don't any have rings.
True but i ain’t mad at him.. get ya coins. At the end of the day you’ll be looking at that bank account way more than a bedazzled ring.
Nah bro...management stopped building around him and opted to trust in the potential of the unicorn and a triangle system. Melo didn't deserve that.
@@brandonjeffries2150 he's still a case of a guy that chased every dollar and didn't link up with other stars in his prime when everyone was doing it but ultimately he made a shit Ton of money for most of his career
"let me ask you a question,gil"
Gil before a question is asked: "Give me the money"😂😂😂😂
McCants finally caught a dub 😂
But Gil took the cake with the $300M resale 💯😭
Yea cause if I’m inna nba I want money and a chance to get a ring
@@Unc654 Bro rings is only for those who actually get to stay in the league.
This conversation is the perfect example of what most NBA players mentality is today.
So
Can't fault them. 29 teams with the same goals. One bad season and the fans call you "Washed". How often are you going to wear a championship ring???
Lol it’s example of capitalism…let’s take your job for instance would you work for less money and a prestigious job title? Let’s not try and diagnose people’s mentality
So what? Most of them come from nothing
@@sharkonland1104facts
$500,000,000 please and thank you☝️
This the only right answer
Everybody would NO CAP!!! Dude with the crown is full of Ish!
The goal post was wrong tho. It should be comparing modern day money vs modern day. Not modern day money vs. money a 2 decades ago. Steph Curry vs. Harden career. Both got bread. Who is more fulfilled?
@@Jujubees225it should also be career wise comparable. harden is a top 20-25 player to ever play the game and horry was a (great) career role player, never a star player as well. they should've done like charles barkley and harden instead.
Winning a ring comes down to Luck, a great organization and the right team. Leaving 500 m’s on the table with that many variables is insane
Facts!
The question if you were guaranteed the 7 rings or the 500 mil. Money will always be there the chance to create a dynasty won't. Truthfully winning opens more doors to money. The people he is using blew that money or were bench warmers.
@@Dvinson1 so you would say someone like Zach Lavine who’s making 200ms on his current contract is wrong? When he plays for a team / organization that’s trash
@@Dvinson1you think Robert horry made 500 mill?
Say it louder so the people in the back can hear
They’re missing the fact that it’s not just a game, the NBA is your livelihood and you solely can’t control if you beat a team or not. If the NBA wasn’t a business and just a game with no pay then majority of people wouldn’t waste their time. I bet money mattered when the owners try to under value you more than you’d want. Hell D. Wade regretted the pay cut and he has 3 rings and owns part of a team and does business with the fashion industry
give me the legacy but Gil had me weak at the end “50 million for a ring? hell no” 😂😂
"they sell that mf right here 10 grand"
The dude (Horry) has 7 rings. Gilbert will never understand that. But you have to compare James Harden to Steph Curry. Not a superstar to a role player. Switch that up whos more fullfilled Steph or Harden?
But Steph make hell of money too, plus a lot outside of basketball. He can afford to make less with nba especially when you are making money outside of basketball
@@amazing2five274 but Gilbert is outside looking in now. Harden now wants a ring. He wants to win. He took a pay cut last year to get one.
@@amazing2five274 but that's Hardens peer and that's what he should be compared to. Not a role player salary 2 decades ago. Robert Horry winning those 7 championships were priceless. Gilbert saying buying a championship ring online absolutely is not remotely close lol.
They both have a point but Gil’s point is personal because he was a star player and got a bag but didn’t win a championship
Yup
He never had a chance. His prime was over by 25, and he never had a great team. The fact that he landed 120 million (which was absurd for the time) is a blessing for him given how the injuries got him.
@@brucemichaelgrossman4913
Even if he were given the opportunity, it wouldn't have made a difference, as his interest never revolved around enhancing his teams or playing defense. His sole desire was to score, which he undoubtedly excelled at. Like Carmelo, he represents the type of player who accumulates impressive scoring statistics, yet fails to play winning basketball.
And he shot 42% for his career, Gil was fun to watch but he was an overrated, inefficient shot chucker
He has a great point. Kyrie won and people act like he NEVER won. Chris Bosh won and people NEVER mention him. Generational wealth over rings
Calling Rob just a dude on the team short sells his contributions. He played a major role on most of the championship teams particularly in the clutch. Gilbert had to move the goal post to make valid points on this one.
Hit a clutch shot for the lakers and the spurs but I guess people forget about that
Lots of ppl made shots and made stops on those teams. Hakeem, Shaq, Kobe, and Duncan are the main reasons for those rings, not Horry.
Give me the money!!!
He didn’t say anything wrong. He said Rob only made what he made because he wasn’t the guy. The question is role player with rings or star with 300m
Its a wild thing to say.
You don't just end up on 3 championship ball clubs..
He was a really good role player and a very crucial shot maker but he was never even a 3rd or 4th option on most of his teams.
These billionaire owners don't even care about the rings...T-Mac just said it on Pat Bev's podcast. These sports franchises are their side hustles...
Exactly...they cash out on the road to the ring or not.
They care, but the primary goal is a profitable franchise. At the end of the day they still have huge egos and are competing with each other.
Well danggg there side hustles.. thats a different kinda money talk lol leggo 🚀
Kinda why they said it’s personal pride thing, yeah moneys cool but knowing your summited the mountain I just can’t imagine how close it must feel to perfection
@@mazzb305 thats cute, and you would know because??? Because i have listened to oligarchs like Abrahmovic Billionaires like Buffet, or read the Memoirs of Evelyn De Rothschild, Billionaires infact do not care, thats why they are rich, they are apathetic towards their businesses hence having the ability to sell when needed... Ego is not a word tied to any billionaire. Its not ego driving them at all.
I love Gil’s attitude. He is logical but at the same time confident in self. Smh reminder Gil, you that dude bro!
Winning and losing stops when the word "professional" gets involved. Winning is the basketball part. Congratulations to those who got to have both.
Making 56 million in your career and winning 7 rings is still a win.
Exactly. People acting like 57 million is nothing. Give me 2 million and I’ll make it stretch
Crown guy been on point lately & be all by himself in the arguments, him & Gil a great combo
Feel that for real. Him and the lady definitely held it down.. They got heart.. All that money is relative $50 vs $500 - it's only because that is on the table now. You can always have and want more.. Gil seems like he is trying to fill a void
crown guy haha
Crown guy is crazy lmao
@@AllPureSkill I just like the hat he called him “crown guy” haha
@@AmandaabnamAmore like 5 to 5000
Trust me, I would be absolutely elated with 300m. But my poor ass would be just as excited about 54m too. I love basketball, man. I’ve loved this game most of my life. Looking back at my life and knowing I won 7 NBA championships, and had legendary moments that contributed to those championships, knowing I had highlights from those championships that people are still watching to this day, I would be the happiest person on earth. You can’t buy that with 300m
that's exactly the whole thing. People are so in love with money that 54 mil is not enough lol
That money in itself is generational and 7 rings are timeless so f*ck 300mil I'll do the same thing with 54 easy
@@nikolakrstic8079 people are crazy. you could buy 2 houses, 3 cars, spend a ton of money on a few of your favorite hobbies, buy that fresh ass wardrobe you always wanted, take multiple dream vacations, and still have no less than 50m left. How much do people need? If that’s not enough, you have more than enough money to start businesses or invest in real estate. You could take that 54 and turn it in to way more than 300m.
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Only reason to aim for the high number is more money to pass to your kids/grandkids, more money in general is also nice too. I'm certainly not taking 54 over 300 if I have the choice.
I don't think any of these guys outside of the ones who are faces of the league are worth 300 for 5 years though, and the NBA has been losing viewership too so I feel a little suspicious of how much money is floating around, probably some shady stuff going on behind the scenes with how much involvement china, democrats, etc have in the NBA these days
@@stevenscummy1458The refs are taught to call fouls on auxiliary players, not stars. Makes business sense, but still rigged.
anyone picking ring over 300 mill will regret it after few years one is winning in basketball one is winning at life that the main game here
And they’re selfish because they’re taking money away from their offsprings
13:06 I need the rent “here look at these rings” 😂😂😂😂😂
Gilbert trying to degrade winning bc he never won is hilarious 😂
Winning is cool but 500M is cooler let us be real as broke fans with debts which most of us are generally not even compared to these athletes in particular
@@pandabear1576you could live comfortably with 54 million in pay checks, that's not counting endorsements and bonuses from winning those championships. Buying a ring doesn't put your name in the record books, most rings for sale are from players families when they died or staff that also receives a ring
@@CoutureThugbruh fuk them rings every 1 is born to die ...every 1 aint born to get 300 mill giv me da money
I’m taking the 500M idc
So by your logic is Adam Morrison is a winner because he got rings lol
Give me the money
You get $56 million…and 7 championships.
@@mikelmoon100if you weren’t the star player on that team to win 7 rings they don’t matter.
@@KingWZRD93 - I disagree. You could not be a star player and still be a key player to contribute to the championships. Robert Horry is an example of being a key player who made big shots and played good defense to help those teams win the championships.
@@mikelmoon100 you will get love from the team u won the rings for but ain’t nobody going to even look at you as a top 15 player just cause you were a role player on a championship dynasty that won 7.
@@KingWZRD93 - Whether someone looks at you as a Top 15 player is unimportant (to me) compared to winning 7 championships as a key player and securing $56 million. I will take the glory of being a multi-time champion 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 and the money 💵 💰any day. I would still be a millionaire and have accomplished the ultimate basketball 🏀 goal.
This convo got heated 😂 Gil feels some type of way about losing & being a loser. You can tell he’s happy with the $ but deep down inside wish he would have won something
He’s calling I think for debate purposes. If not he’s just a dumbass no one trynna be a loser even if you’re rich look at dame. If dame would’ve left earlier for a championship team and won or got to the finals he would probably be paid more lmao. Gil’s argument is kinda dumb tbh
No he don’t lol wtf
H definitely doesn’t 😂he got financial stability
Lmao dumb comment
Nothing but respect for McCants he a real 1 💯
Who in their right mind is saying, that Robert Horry on any planet is better than James Harden? Even with seven rings, no one is comparing those two men in the same stratosphere ever. So give me the $500Ms and my hall of fame speech please.
Looking at iq and shot decisions the most clutch is Horry, and he is more dependable. Harden been on just as many teams played with more superstars and HOF than Horry, of course harden is a better individual player but the most clutch the most successful career between the two is Horry, so yes I would rather Horry on my team than harden. Horry actually makes the team better on and off harden is a joke.
@@Dc-rd6qh I don’t disagree that Horry is a better team player. But James Harden, for his individual skill, will be much more revered and remembered then Robert Horry, even with seven rings. On top of being a Hall of Fame player and being up a half a billion dollars.
These folks tripping 😂
I would’ve love to see Kobe’s take on this as a guest on this show.. 😔 Rest In Peace, Black Mamba.
Kobe wouldve cussed him out...Kobe was putting his health on the line to win lol
@@tnastytfv25 kobe was also trying to match Michael Jordan, if he was strictly aiming for financial stability he’d go with the $, gilbert worked just as hard as anybody he was just comfortable with having generational wealth, some people just value different things 🤷🏾♂️
@@hughiesalazar8417 I think you missed the point of the question bro
kobe had money his entire life. he didnt come from the struggles niggas like gilbert arenas had.
doesn't really apply Kobe had both, won and was Rich as a mf
Thing is people think money is everything… if I could make $20-30 mil along with winning some championships then I’d be good with that. I’m not spending that much money on my lifetime. Robert Horry may not have been the 1-4th option but he damn sure is part of the reason some of his teams won
Exactly
@@ItsJay_that’s you someone that’s never made 54 million, so YOU don’t know the lifestyle of a millionaire, so someone like Robert hurry could be broke now and wished he would have negotiated more money at the height of his career to stay on top later in life, dont think I’m trying to put you down either bruh, I’m jus trying to make a point
Lies......
Fam it’s basic economics. 500 mil or 20 mil. You can’t spend that much in (your) lifetime but what about creating GENERATIONAL WEALTH?
@@ItsJay_ CAP
she was so real wit gil " i watched you nigga" 😂😂😂😂
Gilbert saying “f*** no” to 50million for a ring has me weakkk💀💀 no hesitation
THE WHOLE IDEA OF PLAYING IN THE NBA IS MAKING MONEY. YOU ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR WINNING CHAMPIONSHIPS...JUST PLAYING SUPERBLY GOOD.
Somebody said it.
Almost Every player who believes that we're losers their whole careers
@@cloudunderweather9554 IF WHAT YOU WROTE IS TRUE, THAT HIGHLY APPLIES TO MICHAEL JORDAN 1984-1990. THATS ALOT OF YEARS. YOU ARE NOT PLAYING TO WIN, YOU ARE PLAYING TO HAVE A BASKETBALL CAREER AND “CONTRIBUTE” TOWARDS A FRANCHISE TEAM.💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
THERE ARE PLAYERS WHO HAVE CAPTURED CHAMPIONSHIPS AND ROAD THE BENCH THE MAJORITY OF THEIR CAREERS. SO WHAT DOES A CHAMPIONSHIP MEAN? YOU CANT WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP BYYOURSELF ANYWAY. THEY USE TO SAY THAT ABOUT MICHAEL JORDAN. “One man can’t win a championship”…..THEN MYSTERIOUSLY HE WINS ONE AND THEN SIX, BUT THATS ANOTHER STORY.💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
@@jabbarinnewyork7778 -100.... michael jordan has never won anything alone. It was no "mystery" why he won. nobody has without 1 other major contributors. Micheal had pippen simple as that. But more importantly michael and pippen had a team that wanted to win.
it seems common sense still is not common...
That 50 mil is in 08' dollars. NOW in 23', it'd be more like 150 mil total career earnings.
If invested yes
Lol he probably wouldn’t even play fr in todays game that 54 mill woulda been 25 mil from a bunch of vet min deals lol
Actually like 70…… lmao
I'll take the $500,000,000 and go to the jeweler and buy myself a ring
Buy the ring for what tho ? The value is in the championship not the actual ring lol … that being said I’d rather have the money
@@GoatedCulturePodcastthe value of half a billion dollars is real dude. The value of a ring is whatever your ego makes it 😂
Not earned
@@Munards did he steal it? 🤷♂️😂
😂😂😂
The question should be would you rather be a role model and win rings or have the pressure of a superstar leading the team trying to win and getting 300 mil
Crazy argument, if you've made $50M in the NBA you should be ok financially until the rest of your life. Gill argument assumes that you need to earn hundreds of millions to be ok financially. No reason to choose, win and you'll be rich
This is why the game isn’t as competitive as it once was. Players don’t care if they win or lose, long as they get paid for playing. MJ said all of the money, endorsements, fame, etc came from the work he put in to WIN.
Also it’s hard to know the value of winning a championship if you never won a championship. With money you can buy all the material things that comes with a ship. But you can’t buy that moment in time or that experience of winning a championship.
Game is better than it’s ever been
I’m with mccants the stories and exp is priceless Gil’s best stories and when he the most fun when he was broke in the nba nobody is broke … everyone would wanna win 7 rings you can change the legacy
Bro y’all nuts
Only if you win them the right way though, KD's 2 rings are as valuable as a 25 cent plastic ring dispenser machine
Bro a player that makes 300 Ms have way more stories on and off the court
Mccants is right from the competitive aspect on the court gil is right from the money and what you gonna do after basketball
the problem is that in Gils mind 54 mil is not enough money to have after basketball
Bruh, tf is y’all talking about? For 500Ms, I’ll gladly miss the playoffs my entire career. Enjoy your sponsors, catch me in silicone valley with the VCs and dem.
Here is my take! Wilt Chamberlain made 250k in his last NBA Season. His last game was played in May of 1973. Everyone knows who he is 50 years after his last game. He died 25 years ago and we are still taking about him. 2 years after Gilbert Arenas dies, people will be like Gilbert who?
9:02 Gil couldn’t answer straight up 😂😂😂😂
Gil exposed himself value money over championships. lol this guy tryna devalue championships chill Gil you lose this debate
Gil is spot on, forget the rings the goat is subjective that bread ain’t!
No one is going for the goat unless you that talented, he makes no sense cuz a mid level player ain’t getting a 300 mil deal regardless. If you’re talented yes at first you may not have as much money cuz there’s other good players on your team but when you win you’re available for contract options
McCants kills me😭😭 he called him a loser then said “who called him a loser” 😂 basketball is a game you can’t play forever so why are you prioritizing rings over setting yourself up for life?😂 of course we wanna win but everybody’s team isn’t a championship team
If you can’t manage 57 million you’re a bozo
It depends on what your talent level if I’m MJ, Kobe, Bron talent give me the rings because I’m going down as one of the GOATs. If im an bench player give me the money because no one will remember me
2 different types of winner :
- Winner in Life : Depends on your definition of winning, getting to the NBA is winning, winning Rookie of the Year is winning, winning an MVP is winning, Playing for your favorite team, being able to provide for your family with basketball is winning, Playing 15 years in the NBA is winning ( even if you average 8pts 4assists 3 rebs ) ... You get my point.
- Winner in basketball : Winning a game, Winning a tournament. Period. Winner of the tournament is the Champion. Since Basketball is a team game, everyone in the winning team are called CHAMPIONS. They will all tell the story ... We were in that Bulls team that was NBA Champions in " X " year. It's an experience.
Gil's question :
James Harden ( 300M $ - 0 rings ) or Robert Horry ( 57M $ - 5 rings ). Who would you pick ?
Pick them for what ?
Winning a basketball championship for human race against the aliens, if we loose we all die. Granted they play for with their respective teams ?
Answer : Robert Horry.
Winning some money to provide for your family & build generational wealth ?
Answer : James Harden.
One of one game :
Answer : James Harden ( maybe )
Catching a rebound at the last minute of a game 7 :
Answer : Robert Horry.
Such an vague question.
The best answer I've seen on here damn 💯 lol
If you're the REASON FOR ALL 5 RINGS YOU GETTING A BILLY IN ENDORSEMENTS IF YOU PLAY IT RIGHT
I don’t think Bill Russel was a billionaire before he passed so…
@@charlesdoss446Bill Russells situation was completely different he was making 100k a season. Players didn’t start making 8 figures until the 90s. The sport was a passion prior to the 90s so ur logic is flawed
@charlesdoss446 What you mean so? You don't know what Bill made after his playing time ended not a billion but I'm sure more than enough to where his family is sufficient but all his effort in winning while being profiled by the fbi having his house breaked in by racist while they defecated on his bed and wrote ni**er on his walls is discounted because of some dumbass argument about money most of society will never see. Gilbert privileged ass can see 171 million now because of the bs that Russell had to go through. damn I really just hate you stans yall grip on reality is concerning
The 2 guys with the most talent on the panel that really didn’t do much with it cause of this attitude
Horry is a good role player with 7 rings remembered as a winner ... Arenas remembered as Gun aficionado
id much rather be the nigga who dropped 60 on kobe than be a role player im sorry
20 years from now Horry and D fish will be remembered as a Clutch Performer in the Playoffs and in the Finals. Gil will be remembered as a guy who brought a gun in the Locker room and not lived on his potential because of injuries.
McCants is so CAP I swear. Changing your family forever is WINNING.
thank you
Cap
50 million is basically the same as 300 million for niggas from the hood
@@moneymanhussein8445 stop sounding dumb
Greed will kill you. 50 million will change your family life forever. Yall just like the extra 0 on the end of it.
Harden spending all that bread on one’s 😂😂 cmon Gil
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😭😂 Gil face after he said 50 mil or a ring was hilarious
Hell nah I can watch you guys win and live vicariously through you, give me the extra 50M
Not once was the CBA or the explosion of salary cap. Based on today's deals, Horry makes triple what he earned in his 15 year career.
LMAO She finally got her shit off there at the end and then Gil shot it down so quick that’s crazy
Lmaoo that girl was talking to herself the whole time 😂😂😂😂
Give me my money. My talent would determine my legacy. The money would take care of a couple of generations, give them the headstart I didn't have. My family would be the legacy I am most concerned about.
The money ain't nothing every player drafted didn't have the money b4 the draft. It's a mentality. It don't matter if you make 1 mil or 500 mil it's about winning. You changed ya generation to come being draft . Now you have a lifetime connection. Eddy curry Telfair walker blew they money so money apparently isn't everything. I'll rather have a winning story 7 rings 60 mill my kids kids kids gone get paid talkn about how I got 7 rings and how they turned that 60 million to 1 billion. Plus I got some of the greatest clutch shots in history ranked up with Jordan I wanna win
@@HONCHOSPORTZ100 lol nothing I wrote said that money was everything. The vast majority of NBA players that ever played didn't make generational changing wealth. Most players that play now aren't even in the league long enough to leave a legacy behind, and on top of that, the vast majority are broke soon after leaving the league. You think these players are going pro after high school or one year of college just to win? The vast majority of them are doing it because of the money, to help their families. So don't act so naive. You're talking about winning...MJ made more annually from his first Nike deal than his NBA rookie contract. They promoted the hell outta him, but he was a loser for his first 3 seasons. Karl Malone is one of the winningest players in history, but he's made more money since he left the league than when he was in the league because he was smart enough to make investments and start a business. His business alone makes $2 mil annually. Never won a ring. Won many individual awards. One of the greatest to ever play the game. Legacy set in the league and away from the league. But we have countless NBA champions who are broke or working 9 to 5s now, who will be working the rest of their lives. Do you think they would rather the championships or the $500 mil? Be realistic.
F a ring for 300 mil I buy every ring ever made
This is the difference between players like Arenas and players like MJ, Kobe, and Bron.
The guys worrying about the money aren't the ones who win multiple championships and become icons.
The actual question is would you rather win in basketball or win in life.
This is the reason why the NBA is in the state it's in now.
Yeah cause you regular people want bloodthirsty ass bullshit between the players so you can feel better about ya regular lives
Shut up, You win either way with 300 million.
@@commonsense3921 the fans lose though, the NBA is garbage nowdays
@@stevenscummy1458so don’t give the players the money they negotiated for and deserve? Lol
Hope you feel that way about billionares
Gil calling Robert Horry "Some dude on the team" is proof he is a Black Skip Bayless.
u sound dumb asf he actually played professionally
Facts that was a bad take
@@a1sawse939 it’s not he was t the main star in nun of his rings
@@jasonjohnson5664 Ask someone would the Spurs, Lakers, and Rockets won their rings without him?
The real question is. Do you want to be in the Hall of Fame or have a championship ring and don't get in the hall of fame?
Money over hall of fame! Idc what nobody think of me
Most of the time, the reason why many former players sell their championship ring, or rings, because they did not do right by their finances.
Just because you made an enormous amount of money, doesn’t necessarily mean your money will last. Many athletes have made poor decisions and never had proper financial literacy.
These comparison questions are like unicorns… $54 million in the 90’s is like $130 million now.
McCants reinventing himself with this show🔥 you know Gil is always right lol
Nah deadasss he had Gil this time i can’t lie I feel the whole moral victory bout winning by just making it but if i was ever blessed with the gift i wouldn’t just want to make it temporary i would try and focus on longevity over just funds because in hindsight “winning” especially in today’s nba brings the money rii 🤷🏽♂️
@@JayyyySkohahaha no he did not have Gil. You’re in the nba to make money.
@@JayyyySkoyour drunk think he sounded anything but crazy
@@JayyyySkoyou think more people remember harden or Robert horry? Harden more successful and more paid with zero rings. Ring’s nothing but a story. Rings don’t pay for your family house
@@cjjacksonjackson895 answer me this does winning & productivity not bring in more of a bag ? Yes or no ?
They just showed their true morals and principles… they would do anything for money
They worked for that money
@@greatpyrenees559 Every player is working for their money. He's saying they'll take money over anything. Almost every NBA player today is a multi-millionaire. If a guy gets a 150-200 million contract they're set for life and their kids life. Also what are ya playing for? Not caring about winning is the reason the NBA is trash right now.
so what does that say about your morals and principles ?? seeing as you've got no money, and no rings
Basketball isn’t about morals or principles or yall personal feelings
@@roboninja3194most of y’all can’t even play basketball
I want to win as well, but I'm taking the money 💰 and both parties have excellent points.
Same and I like to believe I’m more competitive than the average person
I’ll take 500 million and no rings, I have to feed my family.
Putting my ego aside and taking the $500 million. Finding a new passion with the $500 million and taking care of my family.
$500m obviously
Yes basketball is about winning lol especially when you are at the park but when you are playing in the nba and playing basketball as a career then it’s more than just about winning.
1000% agree
Horry would be making big money today though. But if basketball is your passion you'd want both. The money and rings show success at what chose to do.
Money , accolades, rings in that order.
Horrys career earnings adjusted to inflation is over 100m. 20ms 20 years ago is around 40 something million today
Why would they sell the ring if being a champion is so important? I'll wait? Just because you didn't win a championship doesn't make you a loser, Malone, Stockton, Barkley, Ewing, Rose, Embid, Shrimp, Kemp, cut it out.. all these guys are WINNERS with no ring!
I’ve won in high school and in other levels in basketball. Did not go to the nba but it does feel good to win. However, when it’s all said I’m done, the money will mean more than being a ROLE/BENCH player on a championship team(s). That’s what this is about. Not the main guy who is winning. The guy that barely contributes or doesn’t at all and still wins vs the main guy who gets all the money. Great topic.
Legacy is priceless....i dont believe for one minute that MJ, Kobe, or Bron would trade their Legend for money.
The convo isn’t about the top guys
@avonbarksdale91 they didn't start as top guys...it was the desire to WIN above all else that made them top guys.
@@ajjamaal646lebron literally started as top dog
@mississippimade6483 no he didn't..he started as a really good player. It took him 9 years to win a title.
@DiceGame912 don't prove yourself to be a Stan...you can't be top of the league before you actually get into the league...SMH
The comparison realistically is for a player who has an option to take the money or chase a ring. Not between a role player and a superstar like Horry and Harden. So it would be take 40 million a year or take 30-35 million with a good chance to win. In which case I would go for the rings. Or for a role player choosing between 12 or 8 million.
No lol you cant have your cake and eat it too ofcourse if im making AROUND the SAME amount ima take the rings too wtf lmao the point is would u take a substantial less amount but still a good amount with rings or filthy rich with none
Rather be Carmelo 262 mil over his career or Javale Mcgee 76 mil with 3 rings
@@jelasoul6I'll happily take less to win.
that’s so hard to chose. i’m competitive so ima chose the rings but all that money could last generations so it’s a coin toss
Gil has notthhiinngggggggggg n never will aka asssssss
@@jelasoul6 JVG never had any chance of making 262 million. Use someone comparable lol
Need that 500 Million
Gilbert: "50 million for a ring?fuck no, you crazy as hell" 😂😂
Man that 56 Million turns into 27.5 Million after taxes. Then paying agents and lawyers. That money turns into 19 million real fast. Imma need to get that 300 Million outcha playa...
500 million.....bro u can buy a ring.
Thank you! A ring is a goal, but for some players, gotta keep the eye on the prize (that bag) and that ass out of the poor house forever.
@@washingtonrl I know guys I grew up with made it to the nfl and had to pawn their Super Bowl and conference championship rings and nfl players after taxes and getting raped by agents only see 6 figures for most. I know dudes who were super
Stars in the nfl and maybe cleared 4
Million after taxes in 10 year career fuck them trinkets secure the bag
I wanna see Rashad walk into a boardroom and try to purchase a company with a championship ring. That would be hilarious.
W/ $50mil he could def do that
the ring is symbolic of winnning, but other than that its meaningless so this is a stupid comment
He might be able to
Gil perspective would be different if he actually won. Coming off a chip you would get paid. The 90s and 80s comparison really dont work because the salaries dont match with todays league. Plus they didn't have all the resources to financial literacy as they do today thats why they sold they rings.
Robert Horry came clutch in the big games n he played when nba players weren't getting the $ nba players get today so time of the value of $ makes a big difference of the amount but put some respect on Horry name bro was a factor! 7 rings!🖐✌️
Whoever the lady is, is not understanding the question…she making me mad😭
Also I feel the money comes with winning rings too but not necessarily as well just depends on who is aware of the opportunities or not and position of potential at the time
Def not anymore bro
Not necessarily true, 4 out of the top 5 highest paid players in the NBA right now are all ringless: Jaylen Brown ($304M), Joker (276.1M), Bradley Beal ($251M), Devin Booker ($234.6M), and KAT ($234.6). Yea players want to win, but they’re more than happy with their contracts as well.
@@hothandquis941 I love people who stick to the facts and figures and allow others formulate silly opinions, credit to you for speaking straight facts
@@hothandquis941joker def won bro 😂
@@hothandquis941other than kat and Beal all the others have made the finals or conference finals though
“If everyone got paid the same what would it be about? Winning” was a great point. If winning wasn’t everything why do ppl ring chase towards the end of their career ?(most of the greatest players have) No one would pass up 500 M but let’s be real how many players are worth 500 M 😂😂to get a couple mill AND win is a blessing itself. I’m sure Rashard McCants would talk with even more swagger if he was to ever win a ring… and he sure as hell didn’t even have a bag like Robert horry.
people ring chase because they already got the most important thing secured (money) so they go after the next most important thing personally and the most important thing for their legacy, which is winning.
That's the difference between real ball players and guys that play basketball
@@DaCritikqueepeople ring chase cause they listen to idiots who can’t play basketball try and tell them whether they are good or not. Then if you win they think they determine how worth it it is based on how relatable it is to them and their personal life, hence the “They earned it. Built through the draft.” All that moral bullshit that means absolutely nothing in a damn sport to people who are actually good. Bruh you’re in the nba to play basketball and get paid millions. That’s the point of it being a billion dollar industry. Get paid young brothers, to hell with giving an old head some shit to run his mouth about
@@torreywallace1494bruh they the same thing
u just said y do ppl ring chase @the end of there career r u dumb u answered yo own question
This should be the Rashad show, he on point
No, He was just saying what fans want to hear.
A player of Gils calibre would be worth more than 500 mil if he had 5 rings, if Gil could've got just 3 rings his endorsement deals would have been more than 500 mil
50m is closer to 20M after taxes. I'd take the 500M
They got stuck when he asked them Kobe vs Derek Fisher 😩
because Fisher and Kobe both have rings. That was the dumbest question ever. Low IQ comment
Same team kobe was a winner like fisher Gil and you not winners
@@tonygrace3435why are you coming for the did r who commented. Stupid
It's not just the "ring". It's the fact that you achieved something. Money can only buy you so much but it can never buy you being on one of the best NBA teams of all time.
Stop it
Wym stop he’s saying facts, the feeling of Winning and having your name engraved as apart of a winning team is gonna outlive you
If i am a Hall of Famer i achieved the highest achievement. robert horry has a bunch of ring but he ot invited to the HOF table he's for a lack of better words beneath A.I Tmac Charles barkley
Don’t nobody care about randy brown lol
For most money comes first. Once you know your family is good then it’s winning.
Basically the money is more valuable that’s what gils saying
11:53 McCants makes a great point
Bro money is power you can never be a loser if you made over 300 million dollars to change you last name for decades to come.
That’s crazy how many of y’all are so obsessed with money that you are looking past 56 million. More money than has been earned in all your parents, grandparents, and great grandparents lifetimes combined. Legacy is what sets it apart
Well this convo was poorly constructed. Only objective person was really Rashad, who had the clearest of a point. Gil is trying to create lob sided examples for you to agree with him. It boils down to the player and who they are as a person as well as situation. Also the $ in RH career completely different from JH. The owner and player comparison bad. Now every player now doesn’t value the championship because it’s just too much money now. Then theirs others that have trained their whole life. Eat sleep breathe ball. They want that ring OVER the money. It’s a feeling and accomplishment you can’t replace with $. Rashad takes this W. Way too much talking over each other tho
What winning can do for you and your family.. the guys from the undefeated dolphins are legends in south Florida with restaurants and businesses that will feed their families for life look at the bills players 4 chances no rings it wears on your psyche and soul winning championships is why we play it’s our name that lives longer than us.
But you should be able to make a lot of money if you get 50mill.
Rashad and Miko were coming from “in a perfect world” standpoint and Gil was being more of a realist.
Gil was not being realistic. He's coming from the perspective that money means everything which is cool for him. But at the end of the day, McCants and Miko is saying money isn't everything.
@@TTJJCC Rashad can't separate the game from the business. Gil shut them down with the Kobe vs Fisher debate.
@@generalnsjno he didn't because fisher knew he wasn't the caliber player to get over 100 ms check his stats. He was a hooper because he could went and got paid more if the market allow it or stay and win rings.
@@torreywallace1494 No one was going to pay Derek Fisher in the range of Kobe money and they both have rings, so you've essentially proven Gil's point. The market decides who gets paid.
@@generalnsjthat was dumb because they keep picking role players vs the start player
A superstar with 5 rings should be able to market themselves more than 500 million. 500m can be one supermax contract in a few years.
Tough conversation because Gil... if you won let's say, 5 rings... and someone asked, "What do you view the most in your career as success/winning, The rings or the Money you've made?" It's gotta be the rings... it's tough to believe you got in this sport for just money, your heart would/should tell you the 5 rings.