Taunting, teabagging, and ki charging while using a broken character, especially against the worst character, is hilariously pathetic Edit: and the rage quit!! LOOOOOOL what a loser
@@zackrasphodos.2305 honestly when i play ranked, i never encounter rage quit players before. heck never once i play with someone key charging me. is it because i'm playing on SEA server? or is it because i play Gigas? what server you're playing?
islam shnol CMON SUGAR *walks into the unknown with my wide hips while sporting a nice authentic Chinese cane while a overgrown hulk sized pit bull walks right by my side*
Honestly.. he's a cool ass character. I hate the fact that they made him so degenerate to use.. now a bunch of degenerates are attracted to playing him. I wish he was more of a specialist character.. like Eddy and Feng
Alastor Alken don’t understand your comment, im saying i wish leroy had been a fundamentals character not full of cheap evasive moves like feng and eddy
I was hoping that Leroy would be like Feng or Shaheen with his fundamentals, Miguel or Lei with his constant usage of a stance (my dream Leroy was one that uses defensive techniques as his main offense (counters, parries, dodges, etc) and offensive techniques as his defensive tools (super armor, orbitals, fast attacks, etc.), and Wang's parry system. Maybe even having it so that all of his attacks are worse in damage than any other character, and above average frames, but counter hits recieve the highest damage increase in the game, and damage scaling in combos that start from counter hits is decreased by about 50% (IE, normal combos have their damage scaling end at about 30-40%. His would theoretically end at 45-60%). Normal combos would have slightly decreased scaling as well of 25%. (Instead of 30-40% scaled damage at the end, itd be 38-50% scaled damage). This would also mean that on counter hit, his attacks would do full damage for quite at few more hits than normal.
Just like he said, '' everything is so fast''. His recovery of some his key moves are broken. It needs to be fixed. Orbital, D+1+2, B+1, B +1+2 and the parry
Its a real shame gigas is a bad charracter. I love the goofy looks and his animations are actually really cool in my eyes, would love to see him more in tournaments. Im kinda curious if TMM actually likes gigas or just takes this as some sort of challange... either way, gigas appriciates the lov
Yeah i love his design and moves i wish they had made him weirdly slippery or given him a bizarre moveset like a big muscle guy that fights like a ballerina
@@rilohoneu6030 I think he does have that to an extent. The times I played him I remember having a lot of "wait...that didn't hit!?" moments. His major weakness seems to be how damn slow his moves are. Real easy to literally beat Gigas to the punch.
Rob Alexander yeah that’s true it is a great change of pace because he isn’t full of gimmicks he’s really just an honest character so whenever you fight one you’re playing some good ass tekken
@@RJALEXANDER777 but there all punches and kicks the most interesting move he has is his belly flop and even Jak has a better more interesting version of it
Dude, company needs to sell new chars. New Fuckyourmum should be even stronger than Leroy so the game is "balanced" as all new chars. will be much better than the old cast and then slowly get nerfed until they are just a little bit better than them. Then start erasing the old cast as the roster gets too big, so you can sell old chars. as Jin shippuden or Kazuya 2 with new dlcs. Hell, people should be allowed to vote on which chars. they want in the next dlcs, votes are ofc 2 dollars each.
Make leeroy older, so they have an excuse to reduce his range, his strength and speed and maybe they can make that leeroy absorbs more damage than other charactres. Just to make a balance with lore, gave him a cancer as the way he is for the game so he can not do the stuff he does anymore.
typical idiot who thinks they are good lol. probably was stuck in bluee/green ranks before leroy. If that was tmm with kazuya he would fuck him up. This guy is the epitomy of what i hate about the community. Full of salty, douches.
@Dracula yeah, stuck in blue ranks, except the fact that he clearly has at least one other character at the tekken god ranks. Seriously, you sound like you’re salty because you got your ass handed to you by a taunting Leroy
I wonder how much better Gigas would be if his attacks couldn't get parried. My line of thinking is since he's a huge hulking monster, he should have something that makes him more monstruos.
@@pelhamrechtsanwalt2416 what about the new players who fought leroy and get ki charged everytime? Theyre still learning the game because you cant be spontaniously good at the game by just touching it I mean Does every ki charge had to related of being weak?
"Everything is so fast" This is how I feel playing against Steve and Zafina while praying not to get CH, while eating plus frames or trying to guess some ridiculous evasive movement
@@honeybabes2017 pressing 1,2,3 and 4 create an animation where your opponent does something to charge up their fists to make them yellow, giving a free counter hit. But you can't block while you're fists are yellow. It's recommended for characters like King or Law.
To be honest, big Tekken figures need to stop playing Tekken if they really want to show that they want change. They're only letting Bamco Execs and Tekken Devs know that they can abuse them constantly when they keep crawling back to them and giving them cash and attention to do so.
@@joshuaxiong8377 Not really. Tekken is much more than just a game to them and putting an entire career in jeopardy to make a point is an extremely dumb move professionally. Meanwhile, there will always be the next generation, the next set of professionals for the shitty execs to exploit. Just saying that the decision isn't one you or I can imagine making. Imagine quitting your job because you don't like exactly how the company sells their product.
A lot of these Leroy players could be considered the ultimate package. Playing like idiots with a broken character, ki charging, taunting and teabagging. Yeah, I think that pretty much sums them up.
@TheMainManSWE small tip - after screw (f2,f1) instead of df1+2 you can do b2*F for setup of next Goliaph. If opponent wakes up - usual 50/50, if stays on ground - either 1+2 slam with guaranteed facedown2 or just do not resolve stance.
@@zangana3052 it's not just that my friend. If only it were that easy, I already play Josie and Bob. It's the hellsweep spamming ki charging that makes me not want to play this game anymore.
@@Douphipp455 oh yeah never said it's easy. Easy is far away from facing Leroy... noob or pro. It is sad that his d1+2 remains without a nerf. People who think their victory mean shit maining Leroy are sad.
The cherry on top was the plug at the end. btw, the combo for FC df2, is: crouch cancel, db3,2, deep dash, 2, 1, df+1+2,1+2 (and that is neutral 2 jab, stop, neutral 1 jab, NOT the 2,1, string) It works on all characters, but you need to dash deeper then you think.
after all those tea bagging ki charging taunts😂😂😂😂😂😂manz been denied promo and then gets his ass handed to him just as he disconnects on his 2nd chance at promo...pahahahaha I'm done💀
I love that you can tell the second Main Man spots Leroy on his screen, it's hilarious and really telling of how widespread the character abuse is, shoutouts to all the Leroy mirror champs
Man I remember being so hyped about Leroy and thinking how cool his design was and that he was based off of Ip man but after this shit I refuse to ever play him again...
Tekken 7 has been a fairly mediocre experience for me but at least I never felt like the game itself let down (even if some of the gameplay changes were not to my preference). Leroy is the first time that the game itself feels wrong. At this point the entirety of Tekken 7 is a wash in my book. It's not even that fun anymore.
Why not just ban Leroy until they fix him? Very simple solution. I'm not an advocate of banning in general, but sometimes it's the right choice. When 1 character is destroying what makes the game an interesting and worthwhile competitive game (no one want to watch 64 Leroys fight each other) the answer is clear. This is the very reason why, although to a lesser extent, I finally gave up on SSBM. After spending 2 fucking years just learning the basics of that game (not exaggerating) it made no difference because the same 4 fucking characters (with some VERY, VERY sparse exceptions) are what you always see in finals, and they aren't even interesting to watch. Some people like to ogle Fox players and jerk it to waveshining (I don't give a fuck how hard it is to do; overpowered is overpowered. By the way, it's not even that hard to do and it looks stupid as fuck), but I find that shit ridiculously boring and stupid. Equally so is Falco's stupid drill combo bs, and his goddamn lasers which are probably one of the most overpowered things in any game ever. I'm adamantly opposed to even referring to SSMB as a "fighting game," because 1) it's not, 2) it isn't even possible to play the game in a remotely interesting way without disabling about 98% of the game's features, 3) the number of viable characters is far too low, and 4) many people who are very much into SSBM don't even play or suck major ass at real fighting games. I met Mango in real life once and he barely even acknowledged my greeting. He was probably just nervous when I approached him because he's like a little kid compared to me (then and now).
Joe Gillian No one banned Jin in Tekken 4, despite all the reason in the world to. Tekken players don’t ban. Plus I think Leroy is intentionally OP because Namco did it for da lulz or whatever.
@@SolidSonicTH There are cases of Tekken characters being banned from tournament play, and to reiterate, banning is never the ideal solution (what's the point of content they can't get used or is broken in some way to the point of being unusable?) I can see Namco making Leroy overpowered on purpose as plausible only in a few situations, such as if he were a guest/non-original character, or system specific/exclusive. Prior to around the time of Tekken Tag 2 there did not seem to be a highly formulaic and standardize protocol for designing techniques and characters in Tekken games. That is to say, the so-called move archetypes which we Identify today were not as clearly defined in terms of frame data and properties. Just for example, today, with few exceptions, techniques are generally not faster than 10 frames, lows are almost never completely safe on block, and mid hitting attacks are almost never faster than 12 frames and if they are they are highly situational or have some sort of obvious weakness(s). Leroy has a move which violates this 3rd principle of mid attacks in Tekken games, and this is far from the only example. Leroy makes us feel as though Namco has forgotten everything they've learned about balancing over the past 20 years of Tekken, or maybe they're just trying something completely insane that's never been done before (like that time they made almost every character overpowered in some way in Tekken 5, lol sarcasm).
@@azaku9755 Well, the tiers aren't necessarily equally distributed. I wouldn't say there's 20 characters worse than him. But maybe around 10-ish. Gigas, Eliza, Anna, Kuma, Panda, Yoshi, AK, Noctis, Bob, Eddy just to name some. One could argue about 2-3 more characters I think. But that's just my opinion. You don't have to agree with it and I respect yours, even if it's different to mine.
@@azaku9755 I haven't played ranked properly in a while only a few fights here and there, just player matches and quick matches mostly. I'd say skillwise I'm around the ruler ranks +/- because I usually have good and close matches with those. So not super high. I main Steve. What about you?
Leroy would have been a popular sell just from design alone. Giving him an entire set of broken moves made almost everyone who actually likes playing the game avoid using him. If they gave his kit a unique concept of parry evade and ch gameplan, that would have just made him more popular. Make him fast only when his moves on hit or he gets only plus frames behind his unique parry. Heck even lock some moves with jf inputs or make him hard to play rushdown again PARRY,EVADE AND CH. These points alone, would have made him -Even cooler than the reveal -Used with ACTUAL skill and as a special character, that not a t6 bob or t1 king.Not this op ass bs. -become a widely accepted Character that MAYBE gets picked for the next roster in t8. -and among other things that i wil not list because this is getting to long. This has been my rant, thank you all for listening to my Ted Talk Sorry if it's too long.
I was starting to get more confident in my Kazuya after watching your videos. But after seeing what Leroy can do and what kind of people play him I'm staying far tf away from ranked. Guess ill never get better online 🤷
What do you play it on? On PS4 I started using Josie a month ago and only fought 5 Leroys.. They are slowly diminishing. Since you use Kazuya it should be easier for you since you have 50/50. Just lab up a little bit more and learn when to counter and how to get big damage off of counters.
I think tekken developers knew exactly what they were doing when they created Leroy. They made someone to get people talking and increase awareness of tekken. It worked.
2:28 low block punish... and then later get blown up by the HS-Orbital mix up. 😅 In all honesty, my experience against the character is meh. He's broken, but for some reason I don't have much trouble so far. The move I think that accentuates how plentiful Leroy's accessibility is his 10 frame string. It's a high mid high mid (launcher), and really catches a lot of people who ducks it, wall splats, guaranteed on counter hit and if I remember correctly wall breaks. That's the move I'm envious of the most from Leroy.
Leroy has made me quit trying Tekken. I don't even play much online games, but I see Bamco Executives, or maybe even the Dev team, being absolutely cancer like a typical modern game company with this pay2win garbage and it makes me just give up. This is why I buy my console games from a third party after they've lost relevancy in giving the company optimal revenue or I buy them used because it's hard to trust executives and developers to do good and fun things instead of trying to find the easiest way to please the investors. I bet even after getting abused like this, almost everyone is going to crawl back to Bamco and the Devs, or be naive and give them another chance, and give them more money to abuse them over and over again.
I figured when you do yoga headbutt, if you double dash forward right after he will grapple and push them back dealing more damage. It takes 40% of their health
Gigas was the idea of a major stakeholder in the company publishing Tekken, and this dude is a huge fucking otaku. He'd already strong-armed Alisa and Lucky Chloe into the Tekken 7 roster and he wanted to score a hat-trick with a hentai monster. However, Harada had enough of his bullshit.
What proof? There were 6 Leroys in top 8 for EVO Japan. Arslan lost to two Leroy players. Generally at high level, Leroy doesn't need to spam parry and it's not a powercrush so you can still break throws while the parry whiffs. He has a full set of insanely good tools in neutral and beyond range 1. His b+1+2 was a nightmare for pro players at evo and it recovers way too fast on whiff too.
@@KaoMinerva getting better at what? Arslan and Knee, undeniably the 2 best players in the world currently got kick out of evo japan by some day 1 rando leroy. You fucking act like tekken is the holy grail and no one should be able to complain about the game. Grow some hair asshole
Coming from someone whose knowledge of Tekken comes (only) from watching TMM's videos, that legit looked like a fighting game boss fight ...except...you know... boss fights usually don't end with the boss rage quitting XD
i find it so fucking crazy that below average player can just spam orbital n hell sweep then do the same staple combo everytime and they are considered a decent player
Crazy thing is I faced some Leroys in blue rank, and they didn't play a whole lot different from this Fujin guy. This character, I swear. If the veterans hate him, it must be hell for the people who are new to the game.
I wanted to play Leroy because of how bad ass and radical he is from the trailer, but this Leroy player and the fact he's started to become less liked because of how strong he in the game is giving me second thoughts. i just wanna groove with the kung fu, not ruin someone's online experience just for playin' as him
Whoa! That parry is just so cheesy. It must be much hard to do, a very small window to do it and something to be easier to punish. That player is such a loser
I main gigas. Pre patch Leroy bodies/d Gigas so hard because alot of moves and strings were safer than 10 frames meaning jab pressure and punishment were non existent and too dangerous to low pressure cuz orbital didnt guarantee Gigas turn. Leroy df2 alone out jabbed gigas 1, it was ridiculous. Even dic jab was too risky against him. I lost every rank from ttg to yaksa on just Leroy. Not to mention leroy6 turns gigas's rage drive into a mixup against Gigas rather than himself. Crazy tech I had to learn. Ki charge to rage drive (it's insane if you cant parry the rage drive). All is well got Tgp and learned matchup plus patch hopefully it's a bit better now
Although Leroy certainly has several broken moves, one should not "psych one's self out" when facing a Leroy player. Only at the highest level of competition can players truly exploit broken characters/moves to the point where one's best efforts will fail against them. That's because these pros at the highest level have also mastered all the important fundamentals of the game (e.g. spacing, high-mid-low, okizeme, throw breaks, juggling, max combos, just frame moves, , etc.).
Taunting, teabagging, and ki charging while using a broken character, especially against the worst character, is hilariously pathetic
Edit: and the rage quit!! LOOOOOOL what a loser
We should all pay his profile a visit and let him know.
probably a youtuber doing his "nerf leroy pls" generic video
Do I need to stop doing 1+3+4 with Jin when I win?
SolidSonicTH as a jin player i only do it after sick combos on a PERFECT or GREAT comeback
Ki-charging after KO is genuinely hilarious to me. I don't do it, but seeing someone do it unironically makes me chuckle at minimum.
Imagine a leroy player ki charging against a gigas
enzothestrange hahaha yeah the dude feel good about using the most broken character vs the worst character in the game
Well, the developers knew exactly what they were doing when they made him. So that's who you should really be mad at.
and then rage quitting because you were going to lose 0-3
Imagine playing Leroy and plugging against a Gigas
U JUS MAD SUMWUN IZ BETTAR @ TEKKEN THN U
Not only do you have a Toxic ass Ki charging Leroy but also a Rage Quitting one?! Man wtf?....😤
Edwin S dude do you not play rank these days? Rank has more toxic leroys then there is oxygen in the world
4:14 he even does 2 ki charges
clearly a dickhead
Lol. Toxic!? 🤣👏🏾 People are really sensitive over this character.
@@concrete490 i mean it is, mostly.
@@zackrasphodos.2305 honestly when i play ranked, i never encounter rage quit players before. heck never once i play with someone key charging me. is it because i'm playing on SEA server? or is it because i play Gigas? what server you're playing?
that ki-charging leroy is like 12 years old child in tank vs a grown man in wheel chair
He probably was 12
It's called "trolling" maybe he/she was being rude on purpose, but they could be trying to create a video or something funny.
Just rewatched it, and that rage quit made me think differently.
islam shnol CMON SUGAR *walks into the unknown with my wide hips while sporting a nice authentic Chinese cane while a overgrown hulk sized pit bull walks right by my side*
Heard of Wolfenstein? Never underestimate a man in a wheelchair lmao
That rage quit was soooo satisfying..Promotion DENIED!
He probably just reloaded his save file and got the promo on his next match... what a douche
I read it in David Hasselhoff's voice, I hope that was the intention
Beating a Leroy three in a row to get fujin with Gigas was so satisfying for this reason. 10 frame punish is a Gigas players best friend.
I’m never one to undercut a persons skill but it makes me so mad that that Leroy was obviously less skilled
The patch notes are a joke.
TWT 2020: The -best- only fights are -personal- Leroy mirrors.
how do you do that cross on the word>?
@@mr.almezeini647 Put - at the beginning and end, like this -Tekken-
-test-
@@hanijamal1444 You got it. Nice.
@@molle1466 ^_^
Name: Oh I See you're feeling yourself.
yup this is tekken now.
Honestly.. he's a cool ass character. I hate the fact that they made him so degenerate to use.. now a bunch of degenerates are attracted to playing him. I wish he was more of a specialist character.. like Eddy and Feng
Nooo, dont agree, wish he was like dragunov, not hard like a mishima but that depends on fundamentals no cheese cheap ass evasive moves.
plus on hit,wang's parries,huge frame punish,cheap and spammable move sets
Just only need one more thing to ruin your game,toxic players
Alastor Alken don’t understand your comment, im saying i wish leroy had been a fundamentals character not full of cheap evasive moves like feng and eddy
@@DmadPs sry didnt mean to @ you
Didnt read twice
My bad
I was hoping that Leroy would be like Feng or Shaheen with his fundamentals, Miguel or Lei with his constant usage of a stance (my dream Leroy was one that uses defensive techniques as his main offense (counters, parries, dodges, etc) and offensive techniques as his defensive tools (super armor, orbitals, fast attacks,
etc.), and Wang's parry system. Maybe even having it so that all of his attacks are worse in damage than any other character, and above average frames, but counter hits recieve the highest damage increase in the game, and damage scaling in combos that start from counter hits is decreased by about 50% (IE, normal combos have their damage scaling end at about 30-40%. His would theoretically end at 45-60%). Normal combos would have slightly decreased scaling as well of 25%. (Instead of 30-40% scaled damage at the end, itd be 38-50% scaled damage). This would also mean that on counter hit, his attacks would do full damage for quite at few more hits than normal.
Just like he said, '' everything is so fast''. His recovery of some his key moves are broken. It needs to be fixed. Orbital, D+1+2, B+1, B +1+2 and the parry
Its a real shame gigas is a bad charracter. I love the goofy looks and his animations are actually really cool in my eyes, would love to see him more in tournaments.
Im kinda curious if TMM actually likes gigas or just takes this as some sort of challange... either way, gigas appriciates the lov
Yup. Faced a Gigas the other day. Was a fun match. Welcome change of pace from all the Laws and Leroys I usually see.
Yeah i love his design and moves i wish they had made him weirdly slippery or given him a bizarre moveset like a big muscle guy that fights like a ballerina
@@rilohoneu6030 I think he does have that to an extent. The times I played him I remember having a lot of "wait...that didn't hit!?" moments. His major weakness seems to be how damn slow his moves are. Real easy to literally beat Gigas to the punch.
Rob Alexander yeah that’s true it is a great change of pace because he isn’t full of gimmicks he’s really just an honest character so whenever you fight one you’re playing some good ass tekken
@@RJALEXANDER777 but there all punches and kicks the most interesting move he has is his belly flop and even Jak has a better more interesting version of it
Chat joking about the next patch not nerfing Leroy but none of us laughing now
Well technically they are nerfing Leroy, but not really enough...
@@RanEncounter Barely a nerf.
@ yep, compared to the amount of broke stuff Leroy has.
Still need to makes sales, don't they?
TMM trying to enjoy gigas
Leroy: “c’mere suga”
Guys i figured out the fix for leroy
...
Just take him out of the game. Tekken was much better without him he won't be missed at all
He'll be missed by all the shitters who got lazy by using him.
Dude, company needs to sell new chars. New Fuckyourmum should be even stronger than Leroy so the game is "balanced" as all new chars. will be much better than the old cast and then slowly get nerfed until they are just a little bit better than them. Then start erasing the old cast as the roster gets too big, so you can sell old chars. as Jin shippuden or Kazuya 2 with new dlcs. Hell, people should be allowed to vote on which chars. they want in the next dlcs, votes are ofc 2 dollars each.
Make leeroy older, so they have an excuse to reduce his range, his strength and speed and maybe they can make that leeroy absorbs more damage than other charactres. Just to make a balance with lore, gave him a cancer as the way he is for the game so he can not do the stuff he does anymore.
Wtf with his KI charging? 🤬
Feeling strong against the worst character of the game?
In this case it's disrespectful
If i was in that place i would respect gigas
Typical online idiot. Plain and simple.
typical idiot who thinks they are good lol. probably was stuck in bluee/green ranks before leroy. If that was tmm with kazuya he would fuck him up. This guy is the epitomy of what i hate about the community. Full of salty, douches.
I dont think gigas is the worst...
@Dracula yeah, stuck in blue ranks, except the fact that he clearly has at least one other character at the tekken god ranks. Seriously, you sound like you’re salty because you got your ass handed to you by a taunting Leroy
I wonder how much better Gigas would be if his attacks couldn't get parried. My line of thinking is since he's a huge hulking monster, he should have something that makes him more monstruos.
He has and chargeable lunch and kick that will go through attacks if you manage it get it released
Imagine being the scourge of a toxic player using Leroy then ki charging whenever you win a battle.
@bluelion7342 imagine crying about it. If you don’t want to get taunted, then win the match. You only get taunted because you’re too weak
Pelham Rechtsanwalt you're probably a leroy player 🗿
@@pelhamrechtsanwalt2416 what about the new players who fought leroy and get ki charged everytime?
Theyre still learning the game because you cant be spontaniously good at the game by just touching it
I mean Does every ki charge had to related of being weak?
@@pelhamrechtsanwalt2416 Imagine telling a Gigas player to git gud after beating him with Leroy
Pelham Rechtsanwalt Bet you were that Leroy player huh?
TMM is right.
This is probably the worst match-up for leroy to this day :^).
"Everything is so fast"
This is how I feel playing against Steve and Zafina while praying not to get CH, while eating plus frames or trying to guess some ridiculous evasive movement
If Mainman keeps having to fight this matchup he'll end up nwording himself off Twitch
"No Gigas, don't say it! Don't say the N-word!"
If you put a n in front of giga you get ngigas
@@phazetbh552 ngigas crazy
Imagine ki charging while playing the most broken character in the game.
against gigas
then losing after teabagging and plugging
what is ki charging
@@honeybabes2017 pressing 1,2,3 and 4 create an animation where your opponent does something to charge up their fists to make them yellow, giving a free counter hit. But you can't block while you're fists are yellow. It's recommended for characters like King or Law.
You should really take a break from ranked t7 while this guy gets put to the ground
True. I dont see him as much on player matches like I use to. Barely see him actually
To be honest, big Tekken figures need to stop playing Tekken if they really want to show that they want change.
They're only letting Bamco Execs and Tekken Devs know that they can abuse them constantly when they keep crawling back to them and giving them cash and attention to do so.
@@joshuaxiong8377 Not really. Tekken is much more than just a game to them and putting an entire career in jeopardy to make a point is an extremely dumb move professionally. Meanwhile, there will always be the next generation, the next set of professionals for the shitty execs to exploit. Just saying that the decision isn't one you or I can imagine making. Imagine quitting your job because you don't like exactly how the company sells their product.
And the plugging end... So pathetic
Poor guy has to taunt constantly with Leroy to feel good about himself. I feel bad for him.
How about Leroy vs. Tekken Tag Tournament 1 Prototype Jack?
What is this obsession you have with p.jack
He's the best example of a trash tier character.
@@JunKazamaFan Omg, I was thinking the exact same thing. *Highfive*
@@disruptor6550 (High-five reciprocated)
@@JunKazamaFan (Nods thankfully)
Leroy+Ki charge+taunt+Rage art+ loosing to Gigas+ never skips intro+ plugging, you can't fall lower than this, pathetic
You can tell by the methods and the reads that TMM is the better player, but Papa Leroy over there is still winning because of Leroy armor
A lot of these Leroy players could be considered the ultimate package. Playing like idiots with a broken character, ki charging, taunting and teabagging. Yeah, I think that pretty much sums them up.
don’t forget rage quitting & lose quitting when they realize their tricks don’t work on you
Yeah I realized that
@TheMainManSWE small tip - after screw (f2,f1) instead of df1+2 you can do b2*F for setup of next Goliaph. If opponent wakes up - usual 50/50, if stays on ground - either 1+2 slam with guaranteed facedown2 or just do not resolve stance.
This video actually exposes the mentality of every leroy player.....#EXPOSED
LMAO 10:19 he starts spamming orbitals. I lost my shit 😂 Looks like me playing with Xiao in Tekken 3 for the first time.
I'm done playing this game
Dude, pick anyone with a strong standing 14i punisher you will give them hell.
@@zangana3052 it's not just that my friend. If only it were that easy, I already play Josie and Bob.
It's the hellsweep spamming ki charging that makes me not want to play this game anymore.
But stealing a promo from a pathetic fuck like this would feel fucking amazing. That alone would motivate me to keep playing
@@Douphipp455 oh yeah never said it's easy. Easy is far away from facing Leroy... noob or pro. It is sad that his d1+2 remains without a nerf. People who think their victory mean shit maining Leroy are sad.
the positive side being still in green rank is that there are no leroys because they all went higher up already
The cherry on top was the plug at the end.
btw, the combo for FC df2, is:
crouch cancel, db3,2, deep dash, 2, 1, df+1+2,1+2
(and that is neutral 2 jab, stop, neutral 1 jab, NOT the 2,1, string)
It works on all characters, but you need to dash deeper then you think.
after all those tea bagging ki charging taunts😂😂😂😂😂😂manz been denied promo and then gets his ass handed to him just as he disconnects on his 2nd chance at promo...pahahahaha I'm done💀
I love that you can tell the second Main Man spots Leroy on his screen, it's hilarious and really telling of how widespread the character abuse is, shoutouts to all the Leroy mirror champs
I never met someone who meets the second most popular Tekken content creator and ki charges after winning.
who’s the first?
@@tylersadx avoiding the puddle.
@@kibbywitz He doesn't play tekken anymore. Guess that means TMM is the most popular now.
@ he still does. He's known for tekken, but he does other random stuff.
Ki-charging Leroy #69
another plugger. dont forget his ID. if you see it just plug! dont let him enjoy online
I hate how low the respect is online for tekken
Getting pressured and your first response is a rage art is a good sign of a bad player
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Man I remember being so hyped about Leroy and thinking how cool his design was and that he was based off of Ip man but after this shit I refuse to ever play him again...
Season 4 better be fucking amazing to make up for the debacle that is season 3
Guarantee that dude never even sniffed blue ranks until Leroy.
Tekken 7 has been a fairly mediocre experience for me but at least I never felt like the game itself let down (even if some of the gameplay changes were not to my preference). Leroy is the first time that the game itself feels wrong. At this point the entirety of Tekken 7 is a wash in my book. It's not even that fun anymore.
Why not just ban Leroy until they fix him? Very simple solution. I'm not an advocate of banning in general, but sometimes it's the right choice. When 1 character is destroying what makes the game an interesting and worthwhile competitive game (no one want to watch 64 Leroys fight each other) the answer is clear.
This is the very reason why, although to a lesser extent, I finally gave up on SSBM. After spending 2 fucking years just learning the basics of that game (not exaggerating) it made no difference because the same 4 fucking characters (with some VERY, VERY sparse exceptions) are what you always see in finals, and they aren't even interesting to watch. Some people like to ogle Fox players and jerk it to waveshining (I don't give a fuck how hard it is to do; overpowered is overpowered. By the way, it's not even that hard to do and it looks stupid as fuck), but I find that shit ridiculously boring and stupid. Equally so is Falco's stupid drill combo bs, and his goddamn lasers which are probably one of the most overpowered things in any game ever. I'm adamantly opposed to even referring to SSMB as a "fighting game," because 1) it's not, 2) it isn't even possible to play the game in a remotely interesting way without disabling about 98% of the game's features, 3) the number of viable characters is far too low, and 4) many people who are very much into SSBM don't even play or suck major ass at real fighting games.
I met Mango in real life once and he barely even acknowledged my greeting. He was probably just nervous when I approached him because he's like a little kid compared to me (then and now).
The netcode is a big let down. Not even fun to play anymore.
Joe Gillian No one banned Jin in Tekken 4, despite all the reason in the world to. Tekken players don’t ban.
Plus I think Leroy is intentionally OP because Namco did it for da lulz or whatever.
@@SolidSonicTH
There are cases of Tekken characters being banned from tournament play, and to reiterate, banning is never the ideal solution (what's the point of content they can't get used or is broken in some way to the point of being unusable?)
I can see Namco making Leroy overpowered on purpose as plausible only in a few situations, such as if he were a guest/non-original character, or system specific/exclusive.
Prior to around the time of Tekken Tag 2 there did not seem to be a highly formulaic and standardize protocol for designing techniques and characters in Tekken games. That is to say, the so-called move archetypes which we Identify today were not as clearly defined in terms of frame data and properties. Just for example, today, with few exceptions, techniques are generally not faster than 10 frames, lows are almost never completely safe on block, and mid hitting attacks are almost never faster than 12 frames and if they are they are highly situational or have some sort of obvious weakness(s). Leroy has a move which violates this 3rd principle of mid attacks in Tekken games, and this is far from the only example. Leroy makes us feel as though Namco has forgotten everything they've learned about balancing over the past 20 years of Tekken, or maybe they're just trying something completely insane that's never been done before (like that time they made almost every character overpowered in some way in Tekken 5, lol sarcasm).
imagine leroy rage quitting because of gigas lmao
This is what fighting a Chun-Li as Alex feels like in both 3rd strike and V
the leroy: "mY PrOMotIoNs i hAve tO alT f4"
Tekken 8 trailer coming spring 2032 after season 39!
Delete Leroy buff lars and gigas
LARS is fine.
Azaku Don’t compare Lars to Gigas or even Anna and Eliza are weaker than him.
Lars isn't terrible tbh. He's at least solid mid tier after all those changes.
@@azaku9755 Well, the tiers aren't necessarily equally distributed. I wouldn't say there's 20 characters worse than him. But maybe around 10-ish.
Gigas, Eliza, Anna, Kuma, Panda, Yoshi, AK, Noctis, Bob, Eddy just to name some. One could argue about 2-3 more characters I think. But that's just my opinion. You don't have to agree with it and I respect yours, even if it's different to mine.
@@azaku9755 I haven't played ranked properly in a while only a few fights here and there, just player matches and quick matches mostly. I'd say skillwise I'm around the ruler ranks +/- because I usually have good and close matches with those. So not super high. I main Steve. What about you?
Leroy would have been a popular sell just from design alone. Giving him an entire set of broken moves made almost everyone who actually likes playing the game avoid using him. If they gave his kit a unique concept of parry evade and ch gameplan, that would have just made him more popular. Make him fast only when his moves on hit or he gets only plus frames behind his unique parry. Heck even lock some moves with jf inputs or make him hard to play rushdown again PARRY,EVADE AND CH.
These points alone, would have made him
-Even cooler than the reveal
-Used with ACTUAL skill and as a special character, that not a t6 bob or t1 king.Not this op ass bs.
-become a widely accepted Character that MAYBE gets picked for the next roster in t8.
-and among other things that i wil not list because this is getting to long.
This has been my rant, thank you all for listening to my Ted Talk
Sorry if it's too long.
I was starting to get more confident in my Kazuya after watching your videos. But after seeing what Leroy can do and what kind of people play him I'm staying far tf away from ranked. Guess ill never get better online 🤷
What do you play it on? On PS4 I started using Josie a month ago and only fought 5 Leroys.. They are slowly diminishing. Since you use Kazuya it should be easier for you since you have 50/50. Just lab up a little bit more and learn when to counter and how to get big damage off of counters.
Imagine if you could pimp slap someone's ankles to the point they fall down
End of round Ki-charge ✅
Taunt ✅
Teabag ✅
Plug ✅
Sounds like an online Leroy
Gigas is my favourite character.
I love his gimmicks and intimidation factor.
I think tekken developers knew exactly what they were doing when they created Leroy. They made someone to get people talking and increase awareness of tekken. It worked.
😂 this Leroy shit is hilarious. The guy was up 2-1, was about to lose a promotion match, then quits
Hard agree worst possible matchup in the game but suuuuch a satisfying one for Gigas to win though lol
You know 100% that you just outplayed your opponent
3:53 that's the face i do when someone starts to use EWGF over and over and over again
2:28 low block punish... and then later get blown up by the HS-Orbital mix up. 😅
In all honesty, my experience against the character is meh. He's broken, but for some reason I don't have much trouble so far. The move I think that accentuates how plentiful Leroy's accessibility is his 10 frame string. It's a high mid high mid (launcher), and really catches a lot of people who ducks it, wall splats, guaranteed on counter hit and if I remember correctly wall breaks. That's the move I'm envious of the most from Leroy.
The *sight* when he sees Leroy's thumbnail. Hahahhaha
Leroy has made me quit trying Tekken.
I don't even play much online games, but I see Bamco Executives, or maybe even the Dev team, being absolutely cancer like a typical modern game company with this pay2win garbage and it makes me just give up.
This is why I buy my console games from a third party after they've lost relevancy in giving the company optimal revenue or I buy them used because it's hard to trust executives and developers to do good and fun things instead of trying to find the easiest way to please the investors.
I bet even after getting abused like this, almost everyone is going to crawl back to Bamco and the Devs, or be naive and give them another chance, and give them more money to abuse them over and over again.
I figured when you do yoga headbutt, if you double dash forward right after he will grapple and push them back dealing more damage. It takes 40% of their health
That feeling when youre a potemkin player and see yourself playing this game but leeroy is everyone else :D
That tripple ki charge he did had me rolling rofl xD
I think it's the same pathetic guy you faced in your video with hwoarang "TMM Fights Ki-Charging Plugging Leroy #89"
The end made me laugh so hard, well played TMM!
Is there any reason why F+1+2 doesn’t work against Leroy? It seems like a good counter
Gigas was the idea of a major stakeholder in the company publishing Tekken, and this dude is a huge fucking otaku. He'd already strong-armed Alisa and Lucky Chloe into the Tekken 7 roster and he wanted to score a hat-trick with a hentai monster. However, Harada had enough of his bullshit.
This video is proof of how to best Leroy.
1. Don't press buttons like TMM
2. Heavy grab offense
3. Don't use Gigas
Can say as a King main that I got plenty of No.2. Those parries are like an open invitation to use a chain grab. XD
@@RJALEXANDER777 exactly. Majin showed a heavy grab offense does really well against Leroy. Instead of getting better, people are crying for nerfs.
What proof? There were 6 Leroys in top 8 for EVO Japan. Arslan lost to two Leroy players. Generally at high level, Leroy doesn't need to spam parry and it's not a powercrush so you can still break throws while the parry whiffs. He has a full set of insanely good tools in neutral and beyond range 1. His b+1+2 was a nightmare for pro players at evo and it recovers way too fast on whiff too.
@@KaoMinerva getting better at what? Arslan and Knee, undeniably the 2 best players in the world currently got kick out of evo japan by some day 1 rando leroy. You fucking act like tekken is the holy grail and no one should be able to complain about the game. Grow some hair asshole
I don't always Ki charge but when I do its a misinput due to mashing with my forehead to do Bryan combo.
You made a leeroy plug good job ;) + beat him almost 2 times :) be proud ;) 😁💪
Can u imagine if harada made gigas have faster frames then Leroy and everyone started playing him
His promotion losses were 100% karma for the taunts/ki charge/tea bagging
Coming from someone whose knowledge of Tekken comes (only) from watching TMM's videos, that legit looked like a fighting game boss fight
...except...you know... boss fights usually don't end with the boss rage quitting XD
The rage quit is the most satisfying I've seen in my life
8:09 me thinking: watch this guy panic hella hard right now, lol.
and then, DEAD.
Damn. Gigass actually made me cuhm for once. If only that Leroy didn't blue ball me at the end.
i find it so fucking crazy that below average player can just spam orbital n hell sweep then do the same staple combo everytime and they are considered a decent player
0:49what a combo beautiful 😂😂😂
Crazy thing is I faced some Leroys in blue rank, and they didn't play a whole lot different from this Fujin guy. This character, I swear. If the veterans hate him, it must be hell for the people who are new to the game.
So glad you made him rage quit haha, love your Gigas vids man.
Dudes the embodiment of the term Toxic
° I don't play Leroy and I'm not Ki Charging , because I have balls °
- TMM 2019
This sooooo satisfying to see! GGs!
Funny how the david and goliath of this video are visually reversed
I wanted to play Leroy because of how bad ass and radical he is from the trailer, but this Leroy player and the fact he's started to become less liked because of how strong he in the game is giving me second thoughts.
i just wanna groove with the kung fu, not ruin someone's online experience just for playin' as him
Ki charging, uses Leroy, rage quits against a Gigas... at least ONE of these things should be illegal
Remember the name boys, if u meet him online, make sure to ki charge vs him if youre winning. And quit the game in the last round if youre losing
Whoa! That parry is just so cheesy. It must be much hard to do, a very small window to do it and something to be easier to punish. That player is such a loser
I main gigas. Pre patch Leroy bodies/d Gigas so hard because alot of moves and strings were safer than 10 frames meaning jab pressure and punishment were non existent and too dangerous to low pressure cuz orbital didnt guarantee Gigas turn. Leroy df2 alone out jabbed gigas 1, it was ridiculous. Even dic jab was too risky against him. I lost every rank from ttg to yaksa on just Leroy. Not to mention leroy6 turns gigas's rage drive into a mixup against Gigas rather than himself. Crazy tech I had to learn. Ki charge to rage drive (it's insane if you cant parry the rage drive). All is well got Tgp and learned matchup plus patch hopefully it's a bit better now
Would u use josie I dont see alot of people use her
Leroy is unreal. Like how did he even make it past the drawing board?
Oh I see you're feeling yourself... I also see my wifi box...
Absolute trash. You should send them a screenshot of gigas ki charging.
9:12 Lol. Leroy doesn't give a fuck.
Heihachi parry with huge window = huge damage split between both characters for balance
Leroy huge parry window = free big damage
Although Leroy certainly has several broken moves, one should not "psych one's self out" when facing a Leroy player. Only at the highest level of competition can players truly exploit broken characters/moves to the point where one's best efforts will fail against them. That's because these pros at the highest level have also mastered all the important fundamentals of the game (e.g. spacing, high-mid-low, okizeme, throw breaks, juggling, max combos, just frame moves, , etc.).
I'm a Gigas main. FU and 3 gets you a counter hit. Use it for the low swipe when you know hes going low.
when we getting 1080p?