Such beautiful, composed music. I love the part in the beginning where after the clarinet plays again, the difference tones come in (or whatever they are) in the same rhythm and shape and it sounds just like a shadow personified in music. So beautiful.
After the premature death of Gérard Grisey, Tristan Murail is yje undisputed leader of the so-called "spectral technique". The result here is noticeable, through quasi-repetitions with small variations and their (spectral) development. This score seems to me one of the most accessible ones of Murail
Cela pose une idée intéressante, comme réinterpréter le silence comme un "remplissage inter-hauteur", un élément musical significatif qui se produit lorsque tous les sons cessent. Le musicien ne se contente pas de planifier la durée et les rythmes des sons mais les rythmes et la durée du silence, de composer avec des silences en tête. Dans ce cas, l'idée réinterprète le silence non pas comme un "silence physique", mais comme un silence de notation, pas un silence littéral mais un silence figuratif - Je remercie le Très Haut de m'inspirer ce commentaire creux et redondant ......... ;)
Not certain, but I have a feeling I've heard a very similar musical gesture in one of John Williams' early Star Wars scores (almost 20 years before 1993) as at the beginning of this one - the endor planet with the ewoks maybe... Great piece but I'm not sure Murail would appreciate or admit to this assimilation. And I have to say the electronics from 12:20 are horrendous - pastiche Doctor Who at best! (Sorry Tristan, but it's true!)
Return of the Jedi was ten years before 1993, not twenty. And spectral music has existed in some form since the 60s anyway. For what it's worth this piece reminds me of Messiaen's Oiseaux Exotiques, which was written in 1955...
could somebody who enjoys this type of music tell me what your appeal to it is. i feel like im missing something to it or i just straight foward dont like it
+Christopher cuntbag Well here is my answer and my two cents for you Christopher for what it's worth. People who listen to this music are usually very familiar with music in general. Many might be musicians or some real music enthusiasts who have listened to tons of music and they are looking for something new. I don't expect any regular folk who listens to pop radio day in day out to pick this up. Personally I am drawn to this type of music because of the unexpected element which is what interests me. I have studied composition at the Masters level and I can tell you that a Mozart concerto gets me bored with the first seconds since it's very predictable and I know what will happen even if I'm not familiar with that particular piece. A good illustration of this concept would be the difference between a painting from Raphael vs a Kandinsky. The Raphael yet perfect, will ALWAYS be the same every time you see it. The Kandinsky will be DIFFERENT every time you see it depending on your mood or where you're focusing. I hope you get the idea.
+Christopher cuntbag 4 years ago I probably wouldn't have given attention to this type of music, but over time I've listened to quite a lot of contemporary/modern works and learned to appreciate it. This is actually a lot more accessible than a lot of contemporary music I've heard. The reason why I like this particular piece is because of the atmosphere. Certain parts me feel like I'm on another planet. But different people have different reasons for liking the music they like, and for some the atmosphere or setting is not important. But my advice is to keep listening to different works and eventually you will break into appreciating it.
I'm not sure what you have in mind when you write "this type of music". If you mean spectral music, then the appeal to it could be e.g. a new way of composing harmonies. If we discuss contemporary music in general, we could enjoy the liberty from the rules and restrictions of the classical music.
eh don't worry about, took me a very longtime to appreciate this genre too, actually I still have trouble with it even though I even play this genre as I am a cellist .
It appeals to me as a rich, fascinating, hypnotising exploration of the nature of sound itself as the basis for the existence of music. 55 years ago my teenager friends who were hooked on the Beatles couldn't understand why The Rite of Spring appealed to me - it just did, for the same reason. It opened my ears. (Ives would have approved.) It's taken a lifetime to follow the path from Stravinsky to Murail - via Varèse and Messiaen in particular - all the while keeping my ears as open as I know how. Being of the same generation as Murail, these days he's one of my favourite "traditionalist" composers!
Everybody is free to express any opinion they might have and I'm interested in listening to all of them. However, this was not an opinion, it was pure bashing. I understand that this music might be hard to get into or sound very different from either more traditional or mainstream pieces. So, how about questioning why people enjoy this music instead of expressing your hate so passionately? You could even ask us! I really respect people who decide to question and explore something they do not understand, no matter how weird or even confusing it might seem in the first place. After you know more and after you've given it more time, you have any right to not like it, if that's still your opinion.
🌈 écouté de nombreuses fois avec une émotion sans cesse renouvelée
I love to listen to this Music - it is like walking into a secret Space of beauty, mystery and wonder. I love to move into this Space 🎶💜🎵🦄
Such beautiful, composed music. I love the part in the beginning where after the clarinet plays again, the difference tones come in (or whatever they are) in the same rhythm and shape and it sounds just like a shadow personified in music. So beautiful.
This was premiered on the date of my birth, wow!
Wish I could do such beautiful electronic music....
Frank Zappa did it already - search especially for "VALDEZ" ua-cam.com/video/OAAoAjY7ysU/v-deo.html
Utterly GREAT! Thanks MUSIC? i confirm: yes, MUSIC! :)
It`s fantastic this piece!
After the premature death of Gérard Grisey, Tristan Murail is yje undisputed leader of the so-called "spectral technique". The result here is noticeable, through quasi-repetitions with small variations and their (spectral) development. This score seems to me one of the most accessible ones of Murail
Iancu Dumitrescu is another leader of this spectral movement.
@@didierschein8515 Yes I know, you are right.
Poor Grisey, aneurism is a b****... :( Growing up I found Vampyr to be the most accessible piece Murail has written.
Cela pose une idée intéressante, comme réinterpréter le silence comme un "remplissage inter-hauteur", un élément musical significatif qui se produit lorsque tous les sons cessent. Le musicien ne se contente pas de planifier la durée et les rythmes des sons mais les rythmes et la durée du silence, de composer avec des silences en tête. Dans ce cas, l'idée réinterprète le silence non pas comme un "silence physique", mais comme un silence de notation, pas un silence littéral mais un silence figuratif - Je remercie le Très Haut de m'inspirer ce commentaire creux et redondant ......... ;)
Do you really understand what you 've written in here ?
@@DAVEDIKIAN Eh bien, nous appellerons cela le "langage spectral de l'Ircam" ........... Mais relisez donc ma dernière phrase :-)
Amaaaaziing !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
what a music !!!
Excellent!!!
A music sheet
silent and slow and a work of
of a deliquescent and subtle quality...
-- Une belle escapade dans les dunes. --
Genial !!!
Ahh what a pity, was trying to search on Spotify for this masterpiece by Murail, but I couldn't :(
Ng Yu Hng: Just look for it in UA-cam.
thanks to share!
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Wah!
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Adam Neely sent me here
ooo which video?
@@blakescanlen I gotta be honest with you, I can't remember.
@@Alfalfa_Male ah no worries!
Not certain, but I have a feeling I've heard a very similar musical gesture in one of John Williams' early Star Wars scores (almost 20 years before 1993) as at the beginning of this one - the endor planet with the ewoks maybe...
Great piece but I'm not sure Murail would appreciate or admit to this assimilation.
And I have to say the electronics from 12:20 are horrendous - pastiche Doctor Who at best! (Sorry Tristan, but it's true!)
Return of the Jedi was ten years before 1993, not twenty. And spectral music has existed in some form since the 60s anyway. For what it's worth this piece reminds me of Messiaen's Oiseaux Exotiques, which was written in 1955...
Yes he would, I made sure of it ^^ being a Star Wars fan and a cellist and knowing the man pretty well . :)
That's the best bit! Maybe you don't like harmonics.
Masterful Modern Air for airphobic A.I.s
この絵はよいですね。誰が描いたの？
could somebody who enjoys this type of music tell me what your appeal to it is. i feel like im missing something to it or i just straight foward dont like it
+Christopher cuntbag Well here is my answer and my two cents for you Christopher for what it's worth. People who listen to this music are usually very familiar with music in general. Many might be musicians or some real music enthusiasts who have listened to tons of music and they are looking for something new. I don't expect any regular folk who listens to pop radio day in day out to pick this up. Personally I am drawn to this type of music because of the unexpected element which is what interests me. I have studied composition at the Masters level and I can tell you that a Mozart concerto gets me bored with the first seconds since it's very predictable and I know what will happen even if I'm not familiar with that particular piece.
A good illustration of this concept would be the difference between a painting from Raphael vs a Kandinsky.
The Raphael yet perfect, will ALWAYS be the same every time you see it. The Kandinsky will be DIFFERENT every time you see it depending on your mood or where you're focusing.
I hope you get the idea.
+Christopher cuntbag 4 years ago I probably wouldn't have given attention to this type of music, but over time I've listened to quite a lot of contemporary/modern works and learned to appreciate it. This is actually a lot more accessible than a lot of contemporary music I've heard. The reason why I like this particular piece is because of the atmosphere. Certain parts me feel like I'm on another planet. But different people have different reasons for liking the music they like, and for some the atmosphere or setting is not important. But my advice is to keep listening to different works and eventually you will break into appreciating it.
I'm not sure what you have in mind when you write "this type of music". If you mean spectral music, then the appeal to it could be e.g. a new way of composing harmonies. If we discuss contemporary music in general, we could enjoy the liberty from the rules and restrictions of the classical music.
eh don't worry about, took me a very longtime to appreciate this genre too, actually I still have trouble with it even though I even play this genre as I am a cellist .
It appeals to me as a rich, fascinating, hypnotising exploration of the nature of sound itself as the basis for the existence of music. 55 years ago my teenager friends who were hooked on the Beatles couldn't understand why The Rite of Spring appealed to me - it just did, for the same reason. It opened my ears. (Ives would have approved.) It's taken a lifetime to follow the path from Stravinsky to Murail - via Varèse and Messiaen in particular - all the while keeping my ears as open as I know how. Being of the same generation as Murail, these days he's one of my favourite "traditionalist" composers!
We don't need this kind of noisy music!
Hahaha 'we', good one...
So you don't have to listen to it and you most CERTAINLY don't need to comment
Nobody is interested in your opinion
Everybody is free to express any opinion they might have and I'm interested in listening to all of them. However, this was not an opinion, it was pure bashing.
I understand that this music might be hard to get into or sound very different from either more traditional or mainstream pieces. So, how about questioning why people enjoy this music instead of expressing your hate so passionately? You could even ask us!
I really respect people who decide to question and explore something they do not understand, no matter how weird or even confusing it might seem in the first place.
After you know more and after you've given it more time, you have any right to not like it, if that's still your opinion.
+Maurice Ravel Get back in your tomb, Maurice.
idiotic comment.