It’s fun to see all the mistakes made in the first five minutes. I played this last night and had the same problem. I played the original game. Messed up moving rules. Absolutely brutal game. I pretty much straight jacketed myself by the second round and was unable to get any more prestige points to do anything for the rest of the game. lost 15 to 8. This is a really refreshing old style game that they do not make anymore. If This game was made today, every single resource could be substituted by every other resource.
There is a question in the example described in the rules with the movement of hoplites from Macedonia. Why was it impossible to cross the Myrtoon Sea in the first action and land in Arcadia?
Hi there! As a gamer, I must say these are the best conclusions that can be said about this game. As a devirian and publisher... thanks for your passion around games and keep the good work!
The first round is less punishing than you think, because you start with 3 prestige not 2, so you can fail one siege without having no Prestige left. Page 7 in the rule book: "A player's personal board shows the amount of Prestige... The first visible number to the right!! of the space occupied by the cube indicates the current value of each different items (Ressources or Presitge)." Not sure if you saw that rule.
I really enjoyed the playthrough and have consequently purchased the game and have started playing it. I concur with all your statements and I look forward to playing this a lot in the future. Why don't you do a revisit and demonstrate what you have learned about the strategy since two years ago. That would also be just as insightful. Have to also add that, as a professional cartographer, the map design is very captivating to me. Thanks for a great review... and kudos to Devir games for publishing such a brilliant game.
Very nice video, thanks guys, and you're so right : watching playthroughs helps understanding the game better and taking the decision to buy or not. In this case, I bought it without hesitations and plan to play it with my boys. This game owns the "Chess" level of graduation : if you can master it, you are quite good to go in life ;)
This looks really interesting, but I think our collection has enough stabby stabby 2-player games, even if it is in as clever a package as this one. Thanks for doing this one, great job as usual. Always get a chuckle from the banter. ;)
I'm commenting as I watch but ~5:30 you have one more resource than you say you have, your current value is the number to the right of the cube (it's not intuitive). You would feel much less restricted the entire early game.
This is a good point, and looking back I think we may have used the trackers the “old fashioned” way from the start...it’s not super intuitive but a good idea if you can remember to use it properly!
Excellent playthrough. Always love your videos and the work you put in to it. I am getting this game today as I am mostly a two player gamer. Thank you so much, and stay safe.
It’s fun to see all the mistakes made in the first five minutes. I played this last night and had the same problem. I played the original game. Messed up moving rules. Absolutely brutal game. I pretty much straight jacketed myself by the second round and was unable to get any more prestige points to do anything for the rest of the game. lost 15 to 8. This is a really refreshing old style game that they do not make anymore. If This game was made today, every single resource could be substituted by every other resource.
There is a question in the example described in the rules with the movement of hoplites from Macedonia.
Why was it impossible to cross the Myrtoon Sea in the first action and land in Arcadia?
I am so glad someone finally did a good stream of this game.
Yup. Finally I find myself confident in buying this game.
This game should be top 50 in BGG, its so good, great playthrough
Hi there! As a gamer, I must say these are the best conclusions that can be said about this game.
As a devirian and publisher... thanks for your passion around games and keep the good work!
Thank you so much for the feedback!
Absolutely fantastic game. So pleased it has had a reprint, well deserved.
Being a greek it s really interesting how correct the name off the cities as pronunced! Well played Spartan ! Lovely couple
The first round is less punishing than you think, because you start with 3 prestige not 2, so you can fail one siege without having no Prestige left.
Page 7 in the rule book:
"A player's personal board shows the amount of Prestige... The first visible number to the right!! of the space occupied by the cube indicates the current value of each different items (Ressources or Presitge)."
Not sure if you saw that rule.
Totally agree! You guys bring great value and your videos are always my first choice to understand a new game. Thanks a lot!
I really enjoyed the playthrough and have consequently purchased the game and have started playing it. I concur with all your statements and I look forward to playing this a lot in the future. Why don't you do a revisit and demonstrate what you have learned about the strategy since two years ago. That would also be just as insightful. Have to also add that, as a professional cartographer, the map design is very captivating to me. Thanks for a great review... and kudos to Devir games for publishing such a brilliant game.
I played this once. Took 8 hours. Had a great time, but never again.
Looks interesting, history themed games
great playthrough guys, thank you!
Very nice video, thanks guys, and you're so right : watching playthroughs helps understanding the game better and taking the decision to buy or not. In this case, I bought it without hesitations and plan to play it with my boys. This game owns the "Chess" level of graduation : if you can master it, you are quite good to go in life ;)
So true!
This looks really interesting, but I think our collection has enough stabby stabby 2-player games, even if it is in as clever a package as this one. Thanks for doing this one, great job as usual. Always get a chuckle from the banter. ;)
Thanks!
Nice tnx
Some players complain that Sparta wins more easily (like in your video) ; Is the game so unbalanced in Sparta's favor?
I'm commenting as I watch but ~5:30 you have one more resource than you say you have, your current value is the number to the right of the cube (it's not intuitive). You would feel much less restricted the entire early game.
This is a good point, and looking back I think we may have used the trackers the “old fashioned” way from the start...it’s not super intuitive but a good idea if you can remember to use it properly!
@@AntLabGames you may track it your way, just remember to add 1 to your resources during setup! ;)
Excellent playthrough!
Thanks!
Excellent playthrough. Always love your videos and the work you put in to it.
I am getting this game today as I am mostly a two player gamer.
Thank you so much, and stay safe.
Thank you! This was a beast and a lot of fun to learn. Enjoy and you stay safe too 😊
Polis literally means city in greek.
no kidding !
Can you put the start game time stamp? Get past the rules. Its really easy to pick it up while one plays.
Done
@@AntLabGames never seen you guys play an actual war game before.
Love your hair Frances
Can any one tell if fighting system os really as bad, as its look? Game looks great, but this fight- card mechanic looks so luck dependend
Can you please adopt me, you would be the best parents in the world.
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