Why EVERY JUNGLE producer talks about THIS tool | Timestretching Tutorial

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  • Опубліковано 9 вер 2024

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  • @STRANJAH
    @STRANJAH  3 роки тому +9

    The first 1000 people to use the link will get a free trial of Skillshare Premium Membership: skl.sh/stranjah05211

  • @Skradgee
    @Skradgee 3 роки тому +165

    Local junglists in YOUR area make MASSIVE tunes using this one weird trick... you WON’T BELIEVE WHAT HAPPENS NEXT! ;)

  • @MrOuija-rr8kq
    @MrOuija-rr8kq 3 роки тому +36

    In 2050 we’re going to be uploading our Jungle tracks in 480p
    I’m trying to get that 2009 UA-cam tutorial atmosphere

  • @BookooZenny
    @BookooZenny 3 роки тому +111

    Ableton Live's "textures" warping algorithm can accomplish a very similar effect by lowering "flux" to 0 & adjusting the "grains" setting, which you can also automate!

    • @apoplexiamusic
      @apoplexiamusic 3 роки тому +11

      That’s what i usually use. It’s not exactly the same but it’s close :) The best way to get consistent drum hits is to bounce out different versions with different pitch and grain settings

    • @alessandropaltrinieritroub8224
      @alessandropaltrinieritroub8224 3 роки тому

      tx

    • @pukki3485
      @pukki3485 2 роки тому +1

      Glad someone mentioned this 🙏

  • @RSK412
    @RSK412 3 роки тому +19

    Sound on Sound made a video showing Pete Cannons akai production method he explains this timestretch in detail.

    • @JurgenKranz
      @JurgenKranz 2 роки тому

      that documentary is so good, it's a cultural artefact imo, given the insights into technique he shares in that piece.

  • @ASH-ou4cg
    @ASH-ou4cg 3 роки тому +7

    Been using this for YEARS. Many of my tracks have drum loops processed with this very tool. ;)

    • @STRANJAH
      @STRANJAH  3 роки тому +2

      Yes, I probably first heard of this tool from you, so thank you!

    • @Ninjjadog
      @Ninjjadog 3 роки тому

      Could have done with this years ago. Used to be able to do it in cubase sx3

  • @thetylersherman
    @thetylersherman 3 роки тому +6

    This would be a great use case for the new "take lanes" that Live added.

  • @TheKg77
    @TheKg77 3 роки тому +3

    best sounding most creative sampler ive used by far, thanks

  • @Jonny_Does_Breaks
    @Jonny_Does_Breaks 3 роки тому +6

    Love this tool. Wish it was a VST with automation

  • @jacobwallen3626
    @jacobwallen3626 3 роки тому +8

    Metallica: We want to do something origingal, something that has never been done
    Every DnB Producer: Amen!

  • @hazmatproduction4562
    @hazmatproduction4562 3 роки тому +11

    I used this on the break when I recreated the Long dark remix of Valley... inspired by your rebuild of the original. That remix has some variations of the break that had that metallic AKAI sound similar to the intro of Slipmatt - Breaking Free

  • @Captivatebeats
    @Captivatebeats 3 роки тому +4

    Broke this badboy out on a tune just yesterday!

  • @simonvinyl
    @simonvinyl 3 роки тому +2

    Remember dj and producer on the ps1. That was my capability 😂 my mate used q bass and fruit loops he made boss music. Nice little tip by the way on ak

  • @MrLordjonathan
    @MrLordjonathan 3 роки тому +2

    Thanks Stranjah ! I've been waiting for this one.

  • @p-tay5915
    @p-tay5915 3 роки тому +2

    Ahhh cutting up breaks in audio....love it. This is what we live for ! :D Great video as per usual bro

  • @RuffAndTuffRecordings
    @RuffAndTuffRecordings 3 роки тому +2

    Yes bruv! Chopping every single break every time is also key for perfect DJ double drops when playin final tunes as well... Biggups!

  • @djkeety1
    @djkeety1 3 роки тому +5

    Jah know your big tip, re-listen my heads✝️

  • @dubiousjunglist
    @dubiousjunglist 3 роки тому +2

    One of the best tool for breaks. Sounds awesome on vocals too. Cool vid, nice to see Jungle production content. Big up!

  • @Sonofagun0007
    @Sonofagun0007 3 роки тому +2

    Loving the rasta color scheme on the clips! Great tutorial as always big ups Stranjah 😄

  • @rhinotwo4361
    @rhinotwo4361 3 роки тому +2

    For me in the early 1990's to get that time stretch sound I was using the Commodore Amiga and OctaMed, I'm pretty sure plenty of other Junglists were also....... Aphrodite to name just one.

  • @nkogliaz
    @nkogliaz 3 роки тому +5

    The Akaizer is missing one thing those time stretches had, they were being roasted on the samplers inputs and that gain helped bring a lot of character harmonically in the stretches, I still use the akai s2000/s3000 sampler for this function for breaks, other than that, the plugin will get you damn close, great vid, respect.

    • @BilalAhmed-um1um
      @BilalAhmed-um1um 3 роки тому +1

      that why you use the RX950 vst and some good SAT emulator

    • @adamsmith7058
      @adamsmith7058 3 роки тому +1

      So, for this I use Akaizer to create the audio then process with a combo of either Tal Sampler, Tal DAC, or RX950, into Fabfilter Saturn or Blackbox. You can approximate some classic sounds pretty well. Nothing replaces my old Emu E6400, but this gets real close and there are plenty of advantages to in the box methods.

    • @grizcuz
      @grizcuz 3 роки тому

      You're right, I still use an S3200XL and what you say plus the filters are the only reasons that I still use it. Nothing I've heard in a DAW or a VST sounds as good to my ears. I suppose that's why people still rate them.

    • @BilalAhmed-um1um
      @BilalAhmed-um1um 3 роки тому

      @@adamsmith7058 bro i been doing the same RX950 n Fabfilter Saturn work wonders with it

  • @dennishelfrich
    @dennishelfrich 3 роки тому +1

    That's gold! Thank you for sharing!

  • @kennyfenny8435
    @kennyfenny8435 3 роки тому

    I used that old akai sampler once years ago. To sample and edit anything took for ever and you could fit 1 or 2 samples onto the flopy discs which weren't actually flopy.

  • @FederacionHipHop
    @FederacionHipHop 3 роки тому +1

    I had a Virtual machine with Windows XP running AKAIZER works nice a that way!

  • @FinestSelecta
    @FinestSelecta 3 роки тому +1

    Nice one stranj

  • @tristate0mind
    @tristate0mind 3 роки тому +2

    Finally! The Kaizer of Amens! :D

    • @STRANJAH
      @STRANJAH  3 роки тому +1

      Yes like the sound of that!

  • @kylegellner
    @kylegellner 3 роки тому +1

    how did I not know about this!! Thanks bruv!

  • @irishmossdubwise
    @irishmossdubwise 3 роки тому +1

    Very cool. I was unaware. I'll be using this with hip hop. Thx

  • @apoplexiamusic
    @apoplexiamusic 3 роки тому

    Thanks for the awesome tutorial! I’ve always loved the "singing Amen breaks".

  • @DaveSmithHayes
    @DaveSmithHayes 3 роки тому +2

    You can actually use the warp markers to achieve the same result as manually cutting it up: use Beat mode and use the single pass method (one arrow forward with the line at the end). Great tutorial nonetheless!

    • @STRANJAH
      @STRANJAH  3 роки тому +1

      Ahh I learn something new!

    • @nkogliaz
      @nkogliaz 3 роки тому +1

      This, I've done this with Live for years, all of the transformer sounding varients from old school jungle can be done using the beats mode and changing the quantization and then pulling back the amount!

  • @TheBizzyBScience
    @TheBizzyBScience 3 роки тому +1

    Top vid man, iI did a vid on this last year comparing it with the actual hardware, and it sounded pretty close! Have you seen the RX950 Plug in ? Another interesting AKAI plug in. PS Keep up the good work!

  • @STRANJAH
    @STRANJAH  3 роки тому +15

    🖐 Have you ever used a hardware vintage sampler? Which one? 😀

    • @georgeespley9177
      @georgeespley9177 3 роки тому +2

      I got an akai s2000 that should actually be coming in the post today
      I literally can’t wait to use it!

    • @rapoldschoolhiphop
      @rapoldschoolhiphop 3 роки тому +1

      akai mpc 1000, or its not vintage enough 🤕

    • @DubwiseJunglist
      @DubwiseJunglist 3 роки тому +3

      An A600. Doing a Bongo or Conga Breaks vid soon mate?

    • @d-waxthajunglist4049
      @d-waxthajunglist4049 3 роки тому +2

      Akai S900 & Mpc 1000

    • @STRANJAH
      @STRANJAH  3 роки тому

      @@georgeespley9177 Wow!

  • @riyazsonday7025
    @riyazsonday7025 3 роки тому

    YES! Nice! I always think the neurobass you hear today is the pitched up version of that Amen break through that original Akai. Crazy how the sample sound evolved into people trying to recreate it with synth and then to eventually replace it..

  • @MrSinisacmrecak
    @MrSinisacmrecak 2 роки тому

    i woke up it is also possible in Ableton no need the app for the people on a 64 bit Go to sample set to warp Hit*2 set beats to texture flux 0.0 play with grain size and transpose +15, or more just a tip don't wanna be a smart ass but I know some people wanna do this too on a 64 bit who don't know

  • @InsectMindNumb
    @InsectMindNumb 3 роки тому

    if you use the "texture" warp option, set the grain accordingly and then halve the time etc you get the same effect inside abes.

  • @5p1d3rhawk
    @5p1d3rhawk 3 роки тому +1

    This is sick! thanks for sharing it!!

  • @sveast1999
    @sveast1999 2 роки тому

    Thanks for sharing this! Great tutorial!! Well done!

  • @TheQuantixXx
    @TheQuantixXx 3 роки тому +1

    vengeance timefreeze does this wonderfully too

  • @georgedavey1339
    @georgedavey1339 3 роки тому +1

    Jah know ya big!!!😍

  • @BilalAhmed-um1um
    @BilalAhmed-um1um 3 роки тому +1

    aww man, you told everyone the modern secret, ;) its a god send

  • @TheXraycat
    @TheXraycat 3 роки тому +1

    I love the akiza , I have used it for years . It's spot on . The cycle parameter is so close to the real thing. I like to use the lower cycles on breakbeat kicks to get a real comb sound . I have made some great pads also using the akiza and also the paul stretch in audacity which is another free handy tool. Another Fantastic tutorial stranjah :)

    • @dijem
      @dijem Рік тому

      Love your renegade snares remake!

    • @TheXraycat
      @TheXraycat Рік тому +1

      @@dijem thankyou mate really appreciated:)

  • @timshady7099
    @timshady7099 3 роки тому

    Thanks again Stranjah!! This is great with some rudeboy vocals to really get that jungle feeling.

  • @bigrick4905
    @bigrick4905 3 роки тому

    your content is consistently awesome, really enjoyed this one too

  • @greenleaf504
    @greenleaf504 3 роки тому +1

    Absolutely wicked video as always, man. I just sold my S2000 cause it didn't fit my workflow, but have been using Akaizer for years. :)
    Just recently started using a Kurzweil K2000R which I love so far. It's a lot more intuitive for me vs the Akai, but I'm also using it differently than I would the Akai. Different strokes and all.
    Big respects!

    • @STRANJAH
      @STRANJAH  3 роки тому +1

      Interseting man, have heard number of producers use Kurzweil, a name we don't hear much often today!

  • @Adam-g-uk
    @Adam-g-uk 3 роки тому +3

    I've been using output portal to do this, sounds pretty much the same but you can automate it too

  • @wagman23
    @wagman23 3 роки тому +2

    Awesome stuff!!! Can you show us how to make these teknoid Darkstep rollers like SPL - Sober, Raiden - LHC, Cooh - Mirror, Hostage - Oval, Nufojah - Feed the Cables? THX

  • @JohnDoe-vv3id
    @JohnDoe-vv3id 3 роки тому +1

    Great for people who want to make music that sounds like something you've heard before!

  • @theory444
    @theory444 3 роки тому +1

    That thing is great fun.

    • @STRANJAH
      @STRANJAH  3 роки тому

      Yeah love the results!

  • @j.gray_463dnb5
    @j.gray_463dnb5 3 роки тому

    Thanks ! I just heard Aries talking about this on the TC interview

  • @gizmord1984
    @gizmord1984 3 роки тому +1

    Wicked as usual, and thats free!

    • @STRANJAH
      @STRANJAH  3 роки тому +1

      Love free tools!

  • @dreaddy_bear
    @dreaddy_bear 3 роки тому

    love the videos man thank you

  • @markross2426
    @markross2426 3 роки тому +1

    Great channel!

  • @joemiskimmins
    @joemiskimmins 3 роки тому

    Sounds a lot like the detuning capabilities on the Electribe ES1! I usually sample the break into the ES1, set the BPM to 170 then manually tune the break so it fits the time of the loop. Pretty oldschool but produces a really cool metallic sound! I haven't noticed it much on the MPC2500 (I guess I'm usually slowing stuff down on the MPC!) It would be cool if you could automate the cycle length of the Akaiser for build ups

  • @1710000huh
    @1710000huh 2 роки тому

    your channel is amazing.

  • @xbookkilla7950
    @xbookkilla7950 3 роки тому +1

    yeah man u know

  • @ldmdesign5610
    @ldmdesign5610 3 роки тому

    that's a cool tool!

  • @djkeety1
    @djkeety1 3 роки тому +1

    That youth (13) Ollie B on the Bizzy B Amen Therapy Sessions seems to draw for some new dark amens, seriously I’ve been an amen head for 31 years😂

  • @hazmatproduction4562
    @hazmatproduction4562 3 роки тому +2

    The RX950 plugin is also nice

    • @STRANJAH
      @STRANJAH  3 роки тому +1

      Havn't heard of that one, will check!

    • @ASH-ou4cg
      @ASH-ou4cg 3 роки тому

      I wasn't aware this actually did the timestretching. I thought it only emulated the 12 bit converters.

    • @hazmatproduction4562
      @hazmatproduction4562 3 роки тому +1

      It is just the converters. And doesnt do the time stretching. Just another nice tool for getting a vintage Akai sound

    • @Jonny_Does_Breaks
      @Jonny_Does_Breaks 3 роки тому

      I have been meaning to play with RX950. Its currently only £12.50, will gave it a try.

  • @xXfartscopesXx
    @xXfartscopesXx 3 роки тому

    eyy I forgot I downloaded this, very underrated plugin

  • @upintime
    @upintime 3 роки тому +1

    Ow Mann I was thinking about setting back up my AKI 1000

  • @ZONE6666
    @ZONE6666 3 роки тому

    One of my favorite tools :)

  • @floatingdoor
    @floatingdoor 3 роки тому +2

    Does anyone have some suggestions of artist who use this technique?

  • @_viy
    @_viy 3 роки тому +1

    Awesome thing!
    Do the A/B testing
    DAW stretching vs Akaizer at least.

    • @STRANJAH
      @STRANJAH  3 роки тому

      True I hadn't thought of that, nxt time!

  • @undersilentwigs
    @undersilentwigs 3 роки тому +4

    too bad it's got no working version for current MacOS :(

    • @STRANJAH
      @STRANJAH  3 роки тому

      Really? That’s too bad

    • @mildsteven77
      @mildsteven77 3 роки тому

      @@STRANJAH true story unfortunately

    • @magnafide
      @magnafide 3 роки тому

      Look into apps called CrossOver, PlayOnMac, or Wine. They will let you open Windows apps on Mac!

    • @psychoactivednb
      @psychoactivednb 2 роки тому +1

      @@magnafide It's not "Windows Specific"...it's 32-bit architecture specific and the newer OS's since Catalina are ONLY 64-bit architecture. The 32/64 bit bridges don't even know how to fix their own programs for bridging them. :P

  • @masonkiller1
    @masonkiller1 3 роки тому +2

    Now the secret is out!

  • @shornoMALONEY
    @shornoMALONEY 3 роки тому +4

    Dude this is so sick, I've used many slicing plugins but this one sounds great.
    I'm trying to produce more neuro minimal stuff right now, but I bloody love amen fills just at the end of the phrase. I've used ring modulation to really make the amen ring like a bell. It's weird but cool. Thanks for your vids mate.
    Also I'm experimenting with a bass station ii, sampling bass sweeps with manual filter cutoff, or automating with an envelope controller. Also you can input audio through the analog filter section, and mash up breaks and synth leads.
    Do you use much analog stuff, think it's worth it? I can hear a nice midrange crunch when I resample through the filter, sounds nice on high leads like old c4c style.

    • @STRANJAH
      @STRANJAH  3 роки тому +1

      Yes this would be great for some interesting fills

  • @dat1boi800
    @dat1boi800 3 роки тому

    Nothing linked to the video but i just want to say how great the gnarly pack is!

  • @geoff3162
    @geoff3162 3 роки тому +1

    I just downloaded this yesterday😂

  • @StanAllDay
    @StanAllDay 3 роки тому +2

    Nice videos man. I appreciate the knowledge you share. Just learned about the akaiser from Ed Solo myself but have not downloaded or played with it yet.

  • @calderwest722
    @calderwest722 3 роки тому +1

    wicked!

  • @matthealien
    @matthealien 3 роки тому +2

    Reeeeaaallllyyyyy ggoooooooddddd!

  • @mranchovydrumbass
    @mranchovydrumbass 3 роки тому +1

    Love my S950 :-)

  • @divineintervention7925
    @divineintervention7925 3 роки тому +4

    The developer of this has stopped working on it. It’s only 32 bit so will eventually stop working on modern systems, and I can see so many more features and conveniences that could be added. He says on the blog that he isn’t open to handing it over to someone else to work on. Maybe with your involvement we could convince him to hand his baby over to someone who would look after it?
    I’m a Software Engineer and would be interested in helping out.

    • @STRANJAH
      @STRANJAH  3 роки тому +1

      Cool proposition.

    • @divineintervention7925
      @divineintervention7925 3 роки тому

      @@STRANJAH hit me up on Discord if you’re interested :) I’ve been thinking about approaching him for a while

    • @psychoactivednb
      @psychoactivednb 3 роки тому +1

      I have an entire Ableton project with a drum rack for playing live jungle breaks....completely updated to OS X Catalina and now that project won't even open with that specific 32-bit plugin....So frustrating. I thought the 32/64-bit plugin bridges would work. Nope. Please, help get this to a 64-bit version?

  • @Snerkler1
    @Snerkler1 2 роки тому

    I wish the Akaizer app was compatible with newer 64 bit Macs :(

  • @AlexCowles1
    @AlexCowles1 3 роки тому

    Great tip - got really excited about this, but went to download and saw that it's not supported on my machine or OS now. (Catalina) Absolutely gutted.

  • @JArbiter1332
    @JArbiter1332 3 роки тому +2

    hey stranjah great video! i'll be checking this application out thanks :+). i was just curious though, what are the advantages of slicing up the amen in midi as opposed to audio? big thanks!!!

    • @georgeespley9177
      @georgeespley9177 3 роки тому +4

      It’s a preference thing
      I prefer working with audio but some prefer midi

    • @JArbiter1332
      @JArbiter1332 3 роки тому

      @@georgeespley9177 thanks for the reply!

  • @MrMallum
    @MrMallum 3 роки тому +4

    Be careful tho peeps if you have a Mac running macOS 10.15 Catalina or macOS 11 Big Sur as they flat out do not support 32 bit apps. Akaizer will not be coming out in 64 bit. I have seen some machines running these OS’s completely crash and require full rebuilds. Not trying to scare peeps tho! Just saying ….. Love

    • @STRANJAH
      @STRANJAH  3 роки тому

      That's too bad, thx for the heads up

    • @rw8515
      @rw8515 2 роки тому

      @@STRANJAH arrrgghhh upgraded to Big Sur and now I can't use it

  • @resonatingergonomicsdnb2426
    @resonatingergonomicsdnb2426 3 роки тому +1

    Unexpectedly usuful information. Taking me back 20 years. Glad to have some resurgence of classic ideas.

    • @STRANJAH
      @STRANJAH  3 роки тому

      Glad you enjoyed the vintage techniuqes!

  • @prototype9000
    @prototype9000 3 роки тому +1

    ive been trying to make new styles of jungle

  • @PISrex
    @PISrex 2 роки тому

    clasic

  • @morganwright1131
    @morganwright1131 3 роки тому

    loved using akaizer :( but then updated to Catalina and since it no longer works :(

  • @magictouchjungle
    @magictouchjungle Рік тому +1

    Is this available for Mac ?

  • @jmcframe
    @jmcframe 2 роки тому

    Sadly they stopped support for it. It's not available for MacOS 11 and up.

  • @sutusmihaly
    @sutusmihaly 3 роки тому

    ..awesome tutorial..I only have one question..I didnt understand why you didnt use timestretch on the original unstreched amen, but one the timestreched ones..whats exactly the reason behind it..I get the point not using it on the original one bacause of the possible artifacts..would be apreciated for that info :-)

  • @d-waxthajunglist4049
    @d-waxthajunglist4049 3 роки тому

    It's also possible replicate this effect in Vital, i've found an entire bank filled with amens and it's crazy af! i'm trying to make some presets with my own patterns but it's not so simple.. To me.

  • @ASH-ou4cg
    @ASH-ou4cg 3 роки тому +1

    13:02 that's right. Not Drum n Bass, Drum n Bass, Drum n Bass =P

  • @wedfrest
    @wedfrest 3 роки тому +3

    It’s a proper pain in the arse that it only comes in 32 bit

  • @StuSiney
    @StuSiney 3 роки тому

    Was goldie one the first to use this?

  • @axMf3qTI
    @axMf3qTI 3 роки тому +1

    Is that a corduroy 5 panel? ps always thought jungle was done in pc mod tracker software.

  • @VenxmMusic
    @VenxmMusic 3 роки тому +1

    I tried to download and use the akaizer for mac... it made out like it was too old to work! :(

  • @MakingMixesLol
    @MakingMixesLol 3 роки тому

    Doesn't look like the mac version of the app is compatible with Big Sur :(

  • @section23
    @section23 3 роки тому +1

    Shame this doesn’t work on any recent Mac OS hence why I’ve kept an old MacBook to use it on

  • @audiophysix
    @audiophysix 2 роки тому

    Anyone know where you can get a version of this on Mac? Pretty sure it's discountiued.

  • @lege5346
    @lege5346 3 роки тому

    the plugin doesn't work on new macs :c

  • @MrSinisacmrecak
    @MrSinisacmrecak 2 роки тому

    sick app but only one thing do you run it on a 32 bit ?? it seems that I doesn't work on my Mac OS 64 bit (so many ideas and energy adhd from this video and no where to go ) luck is not with me LOL,tried it on a Akai Force but no luck either .But I do have the force whaha. no serous is there a other way??

  • @cureforlife
    @cureforlife 2 роки тому

    Can't download a working version of Akaizer anymore :( Any other techniques to create this sound?

  • @WIZIWOKI
    @WIZIWOKI 3 роки тому

    Does anyone know how to get this working on big sur?

  • @tomfallon8930
    @tomfallon8930 3 роки тому +2

    Did you know? In Ireland they call an Amen Break an "Eamonn Break"?

    • @STRANJAH
      @STRANJAH  3 роки тому +1

      Haha that’s cool

  • @DigiAloe
    @DigiAloe Рік тому +1

    i put the zip file into virus total and apparently there was a 2 hits for a trojan

  • @hectarina7060
    @hectarina7060 2 роки тому

    what alternative to akaizer for mac os monterey can you recommend?