Saying Holly did this to herself, that she chose this, is like saying to anyone who ever had a alcohol beer that they chosen to may end up in addiction, or anyone who ever drove a car (like Jcakson) they chose to may end up in a car accident, or anyone who ever start professional sports chose to end up breaking their legs or get a head injury. Unfair, cause most of us are able to handle it, maybe only try something once, may be fit to handle machines... But I understand Adam says it, cause he's her brother. Too close to see the whole picture, to be able to be objective.
No it's not. The solid majority of people in this world don't take heavy narcotics because they know that they have the ability (and likelihood) to ruin people's lives much much easier than any of examples that you gave. Of course some people are more prone to addiction than others, and you have no idea if you are going to be that person before trying drugs. But any person that plays with heavy narcotics is deciding that risking their own livelihood is worth it for a night of fun, and that's on them. Saying she didn't do this to herself is like saying someone who had an accident while driving drunk didn't do it to themselves. They made a decision that other people are able to get away with, but they were still playing with fire.
@jodezak Thanks for the good wishes. You're right, American soaps don't come near to Emmerdale. In fact, not many UK soaps are up there with our boys storyline at the moment.
Adam's assumption that Holly lifted Hazel's drugs was mistaken but understandable, as was Aaron's displeasure at seeing her there. I wish Adam would stop the "You're a waste of space" routine with her. Being beaten down is the last thing Holly needs right now. Still, his distrust and lack of patience are understandable--that word again.
Adam is so cute. I think Adam truly cares about his sister but the way he is talking to her is er mean. What she needs is support not negative feedback. I'm sure she feels bad enough already. I don't like this cold Jackson. I want the old Jackson back, ya know the happy one, who flirts with Aaron here and there. I miss him.
Holly makes its through a season will be a miracle. So she does methadone. She better off in treatment. Here in the States, after you been on methadone they put you in treatment to help you get off it. I didn't like the fact that Adam used Jackson's accident to prove a point to Holly I can understand but he still shouldn't have done it. Its good the writers decided to bring awareness to drug use and addiction. For Holly, it started out slowly trying it, sadly, the drug to over and in its path left destruction and family to not trust as she has broken to many trusts in the path.
@TheMoonFellinLove Hard to know sometimes whether Aaron is scowling or just breathing. Being appalled by Holly's (involuntary) presence, though, seems to me an appropriate response.
It was my birthday yesterday but I got a present a day late as Aaron and Jackson are back today! I wish Aaron could wake up one morning and find that Jackson's accident was only a dream! (Well, it's been done in American soaps!) OK, I know, wishful thinking!!!!!!
@thorium222 (and others) for people who are supposedly against discrimination and defending people's rights, you are very quick to disregard those of others. Just because someone tells or writes a story and it's "on google", doesn't make it any less defamation. Unless you actually personally know Adam T, to accuse him of homophobia is a crime. Rights are not only for you, they're for everyone.
I'm still catching up ... but I notice that I get so nervous when I watch these. I want things to work out for the pair so much ... I'll be disheartened if it doesn't. I'm not a huge fan of this new view they have of Jackson. The one where the camera is right above him. It just looks weird and out of place to me. Just a side note ...
can anyone tell me what Adam and Holly were getting at the pharmacy? Were they getting prescription drugs to get Holly high? Am I missing something? Is that an acceptable treatment in Britain?
Holly looks like hell....anyway....Hazel, Jackson, Aaron and Adam...who believed that they would be so close that they are now when they first met, J, A, A, and then H.. Aaron could not even imagine being with Jackson or to say to Adam that he was gay but now it not even something they think about. now there are other things on there minds.
@thunderbush1 i know. They take their storylines seriously in teh UK. the Us is like.. ok seen it took the picture and now want something new. These soaps keep us gripped from start to finish. and I was so Disheartend a bit ago on twitter. Danny announced today they had an awards thing to go to. again CORRIE beat them out. I was so sad:( They deserve all that and MORE! :( I hope for a Great onslaught of award to come tho
@AlanRM1000 All those are example's of his sweetness, which I believe I alluded to. I'm surprised you think you need intelligence in order to care about another person. Being thick and being sweet are not mutually exclusive. Using Jackson as cautionary tale for Holly was an example of being thick(and so insensitive). Treating Holly the way he is, is stupid because it's not going to help her. So yes, Adam is sweet but thick.
@beautifullion69 yes.. it was very cute.. but yes.. i know.. Aaron and hazel gave each other a look. like,, Oh Dear... you can definately tell he is shutting down now.. jackson. He is showing the signs now of bitterness and anger.. only a matter of time now :(
wat i learned from this episode is if adam gets any hotter im going to get a heat stroke. On a side note i like holly on drugs it gives her a personality
@axelnelson loved jackson in this episode, and they have to give some good dialogue to someone who can't move anything but his mouth, i just wish the writers would make aaron make him use that mouth to something else just ones ;-)
@yournewsecretcrush They were getting methadone for her which is still a drug but isnt that harmful i dont think and yes it is legal in britain aslong as its prescribed!:L
@hypergreenfrog And personally I don't hold a grudge against Adam T. He is a young man who had to deal with a lot of gayness lately and it seems that he isn't mature enough to handle it. IMHO this just shows that sexual orientation issues have to be properly addressed in school, so young straight man know how to react when they are getting aproached by a gay fan. Since he apologized I favor that Adam isn't a homophobe, just insecure and immature, but of course I don't know.
@cbuholzer yeah, it is strange considering this storyline as well, but after all he just seems to be an insecure young man who obviously cannott handle all the gayness around him
Aww the love the little smile Aaron does when Hazel walks in
Seeing Adam and Aaron together still makes my heart jump a beat! They should be the ULTIMATE couple! Sigh!
A sense of humor = the first step to recovery
Aaron's smile at 6:10 is too cute. *sigh*
Saying Holly did this to herself, that she chose this, is like saying to anyone who ever had a alcohol beer that they chosen to may end up in addiction, or anyone who ever drove a car (like Jcakson) they chose to may end up in a car accident, or anyone who ever start professional sports chose to end up breaking their legs or get a head injury. Unfair, cause most of us are able to handle it, maybe only try something once, may be fit to handle machines... But I understand Adam says it, cause he's her brother. Too close to see the whole picture, to be able to be objective.
yes! we need to stop criminalizing people
No it's not. The solid majority of people in this world don't take heavy narcotics because they know that they have the ability (and likelihood) to ruin people's lives much much easier than any of examples that you gave. Of course some people are more prone to addiction than others, and you have no idea if you are going to be that person before trying drugs. But any person that plays with heavy narcotics is deciding that risking their own livelihood is worth it for a night of fun, and that's on them. Saying she didn't do this to herself is like saying someone who had an accident while driving drunk didn't do it to themselves. They made a decision that other people are able to get away with, but they were still playing with fire.
holly is still growing up learning how too be responsible , jackson is finding out arron true love
YAY!! our Aarson is Back.. they seemed happy..
i guess it is always the way ...
calm before the storm :(
* LOVED Aarons smile:)
FINALLY !!! AARSON IS BACK !!! HAPPY, HAPPY, HAPPY !!!
Re Holly, it's extremely hard to be moved by the character's plight or the actress's acting.
thank god there back!
Adam is acting all holier than thou with Holly.He has no understanding at all
Adam is being a jerk. He isn't perfect. He needs to get over himself.
The difference of holly from episode 1 to now is making me really sad
@jodezak Thanks for the good wishes.
You're right, American soaps don't come near to Emmerdale. In fact, not many UK soaps are up there with our boys storyline at the moment.
I never liked Holly and I don't really like her acting and all, but Adam and the rest of the Bartons don't really know what addiction means, do they?
R.I.P. Jackson . Holly
@thorium222 The thing is that the name "Aarson" is already on, I think you are gonna have some trouble trying to change it...
It is really hard to see Holly in this state. I hope she will at least be nominated for some kind of an award...
@axelnelson
I agree.. Aaron and Hazel are good as a team for Jackson
and yes that line about the river dancing .. Busted a gut!
Funny when Jackson says he's going to star in Riverdance.
They r back. Yay!!
Adam's assumption that Holly lifted Hazel's drugs was mistaken but understandable, as was Aaron's displeasure at seeing her there. I wish Adam would stop the "You're a waste of space" routine with her. Being beaten down is the last thing Holly needs right now. Still, his distrust and lack of patience are understandable--that word again.
holy heavens they are backkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
Adam is so cute. I think Adam truly cares about his sister but the way he is talking to her is er mean. What she needs is support not negative feedback. I'm sure she feels bad enough already. I don't like this cold Jackson. I want the old Jackson back, ya know the happy one, who flirts with Aaron here and there. I miss him.
Someone said Holly should be nominated for some kind of an award......"Best cardboard cut out on drugs" maybe??
@samanthapetrelli Can we say Jackron? It's a little bit weird to get excited over arson. It's the english word for "crime de fogo posto".
Holly makes its through a season will be a miracle. So she does methadone. She better off in treatment. Here in the States, after you been on methadone they put you in treatment to help you get off it. I didn't like the fact that Adam used Jackson's accident to prove a point to Holly I can understand but he still shouldn't have done it. Its good the writers decided to bring awareness to drug use and addiction. For Holly, it started out slowly trying it, sadly, the drug to over and in its path left destruction and family to not trust as she has broken to many trusts in the path.
Is there a wardrobe malfunction or is Adam unbuttoning the top buttons of his shirt on purpose? Nice little forest he is growing there.
@TheMoonFellinLove Hard to know sometimes whether Aaron is scowling or just breathing. Being appalled by Holly's (involuntary) presence, though, seems to me an appropriate response.
isn't 'Jackron' a better convergence of their names? 'Aarson' just looks like a typo.
It was my birthday yesterday but I got a present a day late as Aaron and Jackson are back today!
I wish Aaron could wake up one morning and find that Jackson's accident was only a dream! (Well, it's been done in American soaps!)
OK, I know, wishful thinking!!!!!!
@kimbaforevaryanlamb
The HQ download link for this episode doesn't work ...
Is it possible to upload it again?
It happens in some links.
and next week is a tough week for Aaron and Jackson and i think its going to be a multiple hanky week
@candidacriscris Adam has been worn down by Holly's addictions, thefts, lies, etc. Adam is no saint, but he doesn't deserve to be denigrated.
@thorium222 (and others) for people who are supposedly against discrimination and defending people's rights, you are very quick to disregard those of others. Just because someone tells or writes a story and it's "on google", doesn't make it any less defamation. Unless you actually personally know Adam T, to accuse him of homophobia is a crime. Rights are not only for you, they're for everyone.
I'm still catching up ... but I notice that I get so nervous when I watch these. I want things to work out for the pair so much ... I'll be disheartened if it doesn't. I'm not a huge fan of this new view they have of Jackson. The one where the camera is right above him. It just looks weird and out of place to me. Just a side note ...
Jackson is getting really bitter about his situation and i think any more bad news at this point will just make things worse.
can anyone tell me what Adam and Holly were getting at the pharmacy? Were they getting prescription drugs to get Holly high? Am I missing something? Is that an acceptable treatment in Britain?
yeah but all we're going to get is more angst.
Holly looks like hell....anyway....Hazel, Jackson, Aaron and Adam...who believed that they would be so close that they are now when they first met, J, A, A, and then H.. Aaron could not even imagine being with Jackson or to say to Adam that he was gay but now it not even something they think about.
now there are other things on there minds.
@thunderbush1 Happy birthday :)
american soaps don't even compare to this one. I agree tho.. wishful thinking and all that :P
@thunderbush1 i know. They take their storylines seriously in teh UK. the Us is like.. ok seen it took the picture and now want something new. These soaps keep us gripped from start to finish. and I was so Disheartend a bit ago on twitter. Danny announced today they had an awards thing to go to. again CORRIE beat them out. I was so sad:( They deserve all that and MORE! :(
I hope for a Great onslaught of award to come tho
@yournewsecretcrush - they were getting her methadone, which assists drug addicts coming off heroin and the like x
@TheMoonFellinLove I'm not a big fan of arson, can we call them Jackron? please *gives puppy eyes*
@AlanRM1000 All those are example's of his sweetness, which I believe I alluded to. I'm surprised you think you need intelligence in order to care about another person. Being thick and being sweet are not mutually exclusive. Using Jackson as cautionary tale for Holly was an example of being thick(and so insensitive). Treating Holly the way he is, is stupid because it's not going to help her. So yes, Adam is sweet but thick.
all the guilt trips is really going help holly,
@TheMoonFellinLove or maybe Aarckson? well, let's wait and see (I really hope their relationship lasts long enough to figure that out) :)
@beautifullion69
yes.. it was very cute.. but yes.. i know.. Aaron and hazel gave each other a look. like,, Oh Dear... you can definately tell he is shutting down now.. jackson. He is showing the signs now of bitterness and anger.. only a matter of time now :(
@sosuperfranky doesn't he always?
@thorium222 i find it strange that he is homophobic because in one medical show he played a gay kid for an episode.
wat i learned from this episode is if adam gets any hotter im going to get a heat stroke. On a side note i like holly on drugs it gives her a personality
can you say tough love!
@axelnelson loved jackson in this episode, and they have to give some good dialogue to someone who can't move anything but his mouth, i just wish the writers would make aaron make him use that mouth to something else just ones ;-)
Holly looks like she's going to drop dead. She needs to take a look in the mirror!!!! she scares me.
@yournewsecretcrush They were getting methadone for her which is still a drug but isnt that harmful i dont think and yes it is legal in britain aslong as its prescribed!:L
@beautifullion69 yea it would be very weird to watch a moody Jackson.
@hypergreenfrog And personally I don't hold a grudge against Adam T. He is a young man who had to deal with a lot of gayness lately and it seems that he isn't mature enough to handle it. IMHO this just shows that sexual orientation issues have to be properly addressed in school, so young straight man know how to react when they are getting aproached by a gay fan. Since he apologized I favor that Adam isn't a homophobe, just insecure and immature, but of course I don't know.
Adam looks kinda hot today huh?
@kimbaforevaryanlamb I agree.
@cbuholzer yeah, it is strange considering this storyline as well, but after all he just seems to be an insecure young man who obviously cannott handle all the gayness around him
@roperii he made fun of a gay fan and insulted him, you can google it
@cathy1725 Adam's sweet, but he's beyond thick.
@beautifullion69 yea it would be very weird to watch a moody Jackson.