OMG!!! American gay story lines are pathetic compared to Emmerdale and other European soaps. Love the great acting and wonderful realistic drama. Bravo.
100% agree - I just don't get why writers write Aaron out for a few weeks, over and over again... so many fans must drop Emmerdale and never come back - ive done this many times - he holds this soap together.Also don't get why Jackson, Marc Silcock, doesn't seem to get much acting work - have scouts never seen this storyline- they must be mad - he was great in Privates - Emmerdale BRING Marc back, doesn't have to be with Aaron (hey Dallas did it)
I had to watch this twice before even reading any of the comments. And I dare say I´ll be watching some more times during the weekend while waiting for happier episodes which I´m sure we´ll have. Aaron and Jackson got me crying again. This is so well done and very realistic.
This is the episode we saw in Finland tonight and it just broke my heart into little pieces. I've watched the whole storyline and there's a part of me that wants to stop watching the whole show because of what is going to happen. But then there's another part of me that wants to keep watching because oh my god, Danny and Mark are so talented and brilliant.
agree, and I live in uk ! only watched this on utube for this storyline, very powerful. have stopped/started many times, is very gripping. Nothing like "Days of our Lives" from USA, or Chrolli (German) or Elias Story (Europe) etc all have their part to play, but this on Emm is best Ive seen. ITV should though have kept Marc long term with Aaron (Danny) and given them a (+) LGBT story - be a leader in prime time - missed opportunity
This is simply heart-wrenching... I recently came across this storyline just two days back and I just have to say this is the best gay plot that I have seen so far... I was in tears... Danny is just a brilliant actor... His expressions are just bang on...!!!... The relationships that Aaron shares with everyone has been beautifully portrayed... But I wish they had taken different turn with Aaron-Jackson's story iine... It breaks my heart to see Jackson and even Aaron like this...
"EVERY INSTINCT IN MY BODY WAS TELLING ME TO RUN A MILE MY FRIENDS SAID I WAS MAD.... BUT I WANTED YOU SO BADLY" god jackson you are breaking my heart right now i know everyone loves danny (so do I) but lets give Marc some credit....he is so amazing
i think this is one of the best A+J episodes so far - well maybe except for 220 and 221. So well written and so full of emotions, it leaves me speechless every time.
Need to thank Emmerdate, their writes and all the actors involved in this storyline because this has been one of best storie's that I have seen so far... Its really heart-breaking and can actually break anyone in tears... The story is so intense that it just makes you think about life really deeply and makes you ponder of what would you have done and how would you have reacted if you were in either Aaron-Jackson's shoes... Credit for this brilliant plot goes to the entire team... Just Amazing...
Hurtful as it was to Aaron, I'm glad Jackson said everything he felt he needed to say. Now is not the time for him to bottle anything up. I hear his pain & anger as being ultimately not about Aaron but about himself, his condition now & what he wanted and couldn't get and now believes he'll never have. Aaron loves Jackson, but he couldn't let himself be in love with him, and now it's too late for an "I'm in love with you." At least for now, the ship has sailed on that one. THIS IS HARD BUT REAL.
The writing is amazing! I'm stunned. I cried more than I did on the last clip. So sad for both of them. I can't imagine what Jackson is suffering through. Unbearable obviously. I feel so bad for Aaron ... something said to me like that would almost kill me. I'm sure he feels bad enough. I do think Aaron loves Jackson, but he's scared. He's scared to say words which he has probably NEVER said to ANYONE in his life. Rejection, realistic or not, can cripple someone from admitting love.
Poor Jackson, a person can put up with a lot when they think it's just temporary, but when faced with the rest of your life you can't convince yourself that if you can just get through it everything will be fine again.
OMG this is no ordinary soap stuff, and these guys then and the mum, some fantastic acting.Only british television can produce this level of theater in an everyday drama.Hope these two will make a film together someday, you do not see interaction like this very often.Bravo
Well it does not get any better than this love hate stuff- excellent job writers and actors. It was painful but necessary to get to what the cord is of this relationship is between them. This situation has grounded both of them in a reality that is impossible to imagine - i can't wait to see what the writers have in store for us as this could go in so many different ways for the both of them. It is nice to know it will be written with care and not end in a bad dream
The more times I watch this, I think Jackson did exactly the right thing lashing out at Aaron. If I were in Jackson's situation, I could not stand being around someone I loved, who didn't love me. Especially being in such a humiliating state. You would know they were there out of pity or guilt, not love, and who could stand being around someone you love being around you who is not helping you because they love you. It could only make you feel more like a burden and chore than a lover. Aaron go.
@jodezak I agree. And I know a lot of people are trashing the writers, but I trust them. They are getting exactly what they want: a story that make people getting involved. And yes, awards for both our boys. *today Marc stoled the spotlight*
Damn Aaron parallels Robert so much in this story and Jackson parallels Aaron in that story. Well other than it rings quite hollow in this story unlike Robron as I have not seen much unbridled if any passion. But A+ acting and characters has kept me engaged.
Powerful scenes and amazing acting. Wow. Jackson’s pain is so raw. I empathize with his rage. Tragically cut down at such a young age. He feels so out of control and helpless and angry at himself mostly. So, what better way to punish himself than to lash out at Aaron who he loves the most? Hopefully, Aaron won’t give up. He needs all his strength and determination to not give up on Jackson. On a side note, I’ve fallen in love with Hazel. She is such a lovely mother to her son.
(cont)It's very tragic if you think about it..most of us go through life with just getting our hearts broken, but poor Jackson not only got his heart broken but paralyzed from the shoulders down as a result of HIS love for Aaron. If the writers do intend on A being IN LOVE with Jackson, it's not right now..maybe in the weeks/months to come he will fall in love with Jackson after seeing how brave and courageous he is tackling his unfortunate circumstances.
couldn't imagine being in Aarons place right now. i know that has got to hurt somethng fierce but, we all know Jackson didn't mean it. He's just feeling sorry for himself being so helpless. I know Aaron will be back and help him back on his feet because there is a great love there
I thought it was very sweet and thoughtful to go to Aaron in the lounge and try to encourage him regarding Jackson's mood. She seems so nice. Are all the nurses in the UK like her? I hope so.
I had to spend a fair time in a hospital on different occasions and always the nurses in the UK are brilliant in that respect. Chatty, thoughtful, funny and encouraging. :)
Despite all the harsh things Jackson said, you can't really blame him for being so upset. His world has been turn completely upside down and there's nothing he can do get away from it. I know he didn't want to intentional hurt Aaron the way he did but his frustration was really bottled up. The only thing I hope is that Jackson's word about still not saying "I love you" have really made Aaron think about how he truly feels about Jackson. Although I don't think Jackson would it believe right now.
Jackson is depressed, angry. He doesn't want the man he loves to be condemned to a life as a carer and not be able to give him the physical love he wants. I am hoping and wishing that there's going to be a happy ending too.
Jees - fck - last 5 seconds - Aaron man, don't walk off a bridge - Jackson is hurting and lashing out - - - - so sad - I may be 7 years late, but this is so well acted
He also thinks Aaron is there out of pity because he couldn't say he loved him before. And still can't but Aaron does love him. He's just scared. That's why he pushed him away later. Didn't stop till he left. Aaron did come back to him after he pushed him away. He said he loved him and probably regretted not saying it before
When he got the question "why are you here?" Aaron could at least have said "because I care about you", even though is not exactly what jackson wanted to hear it's much much better than "because you need me", he could even had said "because I need you" like he has said before.
I'm just heartbroken. I know its only a story but this story is tearing me apart. Must it always be a tragedy? Aaron has been through so much, I don't know if anyone in real life could cope with what he's been through. I hope something good is ahead because this story line makes me feel really sad. I love them both and want them to be together.
I think that jackson doesn't really feel this way. He is angry for certain. however, I think that he is probably doing this to force Aaron to move on. he is trying to force him away so as not to burden him or tie him down. Aaron is after all only 18. I believe that Aaron will be persistent at everyone's urging and you will see Jackson come around. It will somehow have a happy ending.
Just saw this .... with tears in my eyes and shivers down my spine .... Jackson is trying to deal with this and right now he is mad at the world and anyone who gets in his way. I think that right now J may hate Aaron but I also think he's trying to make it easy for Aaron ( or so he thinks). He does not want Aaron to stay outof gilt for what happened ...And Aaron with the I love you thing...Aaron was true to him self and said: i don´t know if i love you..and i can´t lie..NOT TO YOU.
Didn't realise how much Aaron suffered after Jackson died. He'd got better after they were together but after he died, he was tortured again and self destructive, hurting himself. If Jackson was around, he'd never have been like that
The nurses comments about stages of grief were the most important and "realistic" comments in the episode. Also, Jackson has to go through this if any change in his condition is ever going to be meaningful (that is, if and when the soap writers allow him to move again). Same for Aaron. Luke and Noah pushed each other away but never so eloquently and never with such clear pain - I blame that on the American soap writing style. I'm upset this is where things are but hoping for a ray of light.
I can totally see where Jackson is coming from. How long has he been toying with the idea that he'd made a BIG mistake with Aaron? We learn that his friends have been telling him to get out of the relationship too. Hazel, on a couple of occasions, did like wise. He gave him second chance after second chance and then.......... He will be hating himself too. I wouldn't blame Aaron but I understand Jackson's anger and frustration.
I had a very similar scene with my first boyfriend when I was hurting that he didn't love me or want me in the same way.. i know it's nothing remotely comparable, but it really hurts to see Jackson hurt so badly that he wants the guy he loves out of his life.
@marcojacksonlvr Well, I was actually responding to @Misstaralouise1994's concern/upset at Jackson "wishing Aaron was dead" - a reference to the suicidal/car full of fumes comment. You raise an interesting point though. I imagine that there were kernels of truth in the emotions expressed, but I can't agree that Jackson meant every word he said. The emotional turmoil is speaking and that's understandable, but Jackson makes his goal clear: "I want you to leave me" and he pushes until he gets that.
@nyser1Cheers mate!! OMG I can't believe you said that!!!! I swear I was thinking the exact same thing..no joke...I love getting other people's point of view. That's what makes us grow and learn. I truely find it fascinating how we all perceive things differently and that's ok, if not we would all be robots:)
@jodezak continued: Jackson needs someone with strong continence and strength and someone who wants to be there caue HE can't live without him and someone who is willing through hard times and good .. to stick by him no matter what. Jackson * iE the writers* have done this in hopes to get Aaron to come out ofhis comfort zone and realize he does love him. It wont happen right away.. but at Holidays I am hoping for a reunion :) jodezak 9 seconds ago
I think Jackson's reaction is very realistic. His whole world has just collapsed, he is mad at being in this situation and takes it out on the people around him. Poor Aaron though, he looked really gutted.
Jackson was very hard on Aaron... but i can udernstand. He is not an angel, he is a human and he wanted to burst. But Aaron won' leave him im sure. let's see how the writers will handle this!
@iddoogier68 This will get thumbs down, but truth is harder to believe than fantasy or hope. For those that believe, Aaron IS IN love with Jackson. NAWT. Look at how the writers "constructed the dialog". Jackson gave him TWO opportunities - looking for the right answer. Aaron's response: 1. "I am here because you need me. You were there for me when I needed you". That is loyalty, NOT love. 2.) "You can't even lie to me." "Would you want me to lie?" Hope doesn't always spring eternal.
cont ... Aaron feels it I'm sure, but he doesn't want to say something he is unsure of. He won't like to Jackson, which I think is extremely noble. He won't force himself to say something he can't realize yet. His fear is in control. Hopefully he'll overcome this. And I freaken hope Jackson overcomes his issues (physical state and all) soon too! So sad :-(
Each episode more painful and gripping than the last. Leaves you feeling completely ... pole-axed, as they say here in Britain. Totally selfishly I feel: please, enough. This is agonising. But at the same time I remember : this is a realistic story. This is what happens in the world every day. It is true-to-life and well acted. It is strong, compelling drama, I have to say. Let it continue...
I think of Elizabeth Kübler-Ross's book "On Death and Dying".In her studies she found the second stage of the 5 stages of Grief is Anger. That's where Jackson is, He feels dead. His anger is directed to others, and himself, but to Aaron the most. because Aaron hurt him the most.Jackson is the kindest person, of course he didn't wish Aaron had died and doesn't blame him for his accident.Jackson will be sad he said those things and want to seen Aaron tho he reminds him of what he'll never have.
@marcojacksonlvr I'm going to wait and see how this plays out. That said, it's so great to get additional perspectives on this relationship. Whether or not we agree, I've really enjoyed the discussion that was stirred up by this episode and the opportunity to benefit from all of the insight :)
I think it's clear that Aaron doesn't love Jackson,y, the way Jackson loves Aaron.I'm glad Jackson has Hazel, since he never really had Aaron. It's sad, but I can understand everything Jackson says and feels. I may not agree with him blaming Aaron for his ruined life, but I can understand his anger for allowing himself to love a person who is incapable of loving him. For Jackson to put himself out there, despite what friends said, he wanted Aaron so badly, now he gets Aaron's pity .Aaron leave.
God this Storyline is Heartbreaking.. I feel soo sorry for Jackson..The things he said were harsh..But i think he done it out of Frustation ...My heart Breaks for them both..But i can't stand seeing Aaron Crying..He looks soo hurt :(
@iddoogier68 And when Jackson specifically asked him, "Why are you HERE" - looking for "I love you" Aaron told him, "You wouldn't want me to lie to you, would you?" The excuse of age and whatever doesn't fly anymore. Aaron doesn't feel it like Jackson. Period. He's had MORE than enough time and tragedy to define his feelings. 18 or NOT. Something doesn't mean love. Or more importantly IN LOVE.
@hearditman At least you made me laugh with that one! I needed it after spending all Sunday like a total mess as a result of watching Thursday and Friday epis this morning
I believe that they truly love each other. Aaron has never been able to say it and if he would have said it when Jackson asked him why he comes to the hospital, it wouldn't have been believable. It would be nice to see Aaron tell him at some point though.
@iddoogier68 I do agree that Aaron loves Jackson, it's just that he is NOT IN LOVE with him. He himself told Jackson he could NOT lie to him about loving him. Jackson pretty much hit it on the nail when he said " even NOW you can't say it"! I'm sorry but if Aaron at this point after everything that has happened, especially after Jackson almost died, still doesn't know if he is in love then he CLEARLY is not. And I for one believes Jackson needs and DESERVES someone who knows their feelings.
If it meant walking again and NOT being paralyzed from the shoulders down at the age of 23, I too would wish I had NEVER met Aaron..that's just being REALISTIC and HONEST. My gosh this is someone that he has ONLY known for NOT even a year and look what has happened as a result.
@robertn800 Yes, I think a lot of fans on here have got carried away and treated this like the romance of the year - but as you point out, looking back at the facts, it really WASN'T. Aaron was just finding his way, was certainly not mature enough for a full on relationship. Jackson just happened to be the one to help his transition.
well to be honest this was always going to happen as Jackson was being to calm like in denial and these guys are doing this story brilliantly and Jackson was always going to vent and as usual its always the one you love that gets it in the neck Aaron over the next few weeks wil come to realise he does love him and needs him as much as Jackson needs him. Aaron will leave him for a few days to give him space but you will see next week he cant keep away from the one person who loves him for him
oy this hurt..... really hard to watch :( oddly enough this reminded me of Luke & Noah's storyline last year, which ATWT handled horribly by the way. Noah blamed Luke for his blindness, pushed him away and in the end they couldn't get past it. Let's see how Emmerdale handles this.
I don't think Jackson was feeling sorry for himself, I think he was Damn Angry, not only at Aaron but also himself. He was mad at himself for ignoring his own instinct, his friends and for ever getting involved with Aaron. Well we all know what he was mad at Aaron for. Another thing that makes me doubt Aaron loving Jackson, was when the Nurse was saying they could teach him how to take care of Jackson-Aaron said "what if I can't" Like Jackson said, it makes me wonder when Aaron would bale on him
I don't understand, why didn't Aaron tell Jackson that he loves him? He said it to Paddy, why didn't he just say it to Jackson? Or at least when Jackson was asking him why he was there, he could have said 'I care about you' or SOMETHING!!
I do feel sorry, that this reinforces what Aaron said about himself that everyone who's ever cared about him has gotten hurt, Paddy, Clyde (who else?) and now Jackson. That's a lot of guilt to carry.
even though he said somethings quite hurtful i did not get the sense that jackson meant any of it u could see it in his eyes he didnt mean it, hes just lashing out at everone bc well he feels like hes suffocating and theres nothing he can do about it literally
Jackson is saying he thinks Aaron will leave him sooner or later so go now. And he won't be able to be physical. He's angry Aaron couldn't say he loved him and then that happened so in a way he blamed him although it was an accident. He's hurting because he thinks Aaron doesn't love him like he does and it's all for nothing. Aaron loves him and regrets it
@ttortier20 well protecting him from going through pains in the future! He wants to set Aaron free because he doesn't want Aaron to stick with a man that doesn't even know what will happen in the future. That's why he's saying all those things to Aaron, he cares so much about Aaron that he doesn't want A to go through all the tough times with him in the future!!
Jackson: "I'm sick of it !! I'm sick of it already and it's only just started !!" Very powerful line.
OMG!!! American gay story lines are pathetic compared to Emmerdale and other European soaps. Love the great acting and wonderful realistic drama. Bravo.
Everytime I watch this scence, I can't stop crying. The acting is amazing by both actors.
100% agree - I just don't get why writers write Aaron out for a few weeks, over and over again... so many fans must drop Emmerdale and never come back - ive done this many times - he holds this soap together.Also don't get why Jackson, Marc Silcock, doesn't seem to get much acting work - have scouts never seen this storyline- they must be mad - he was great in Privates - Emmerdale BRING Marc back, doesn't have to be with Aaron (hey Dallas did it)
Marc Silcock is a great actor. Bring him back. Please
My heart broke for Aaron and Jackson in this scene. Everything that happened just ripped them apart and it's tragic to watch.
Sad story line obviously but it was kind of funny around :36 when Cain made that big sigh after Chaz asked him to talk to Aaron.
Marc is a magnificent actor!!! Broke my heart again today.
I had to watch this twice before even reading any of the comments. And I dare say I´ll be watching some more times during the weekend while waiting for happier episodes which I´m sure we´ll have. Aaron and Jackson got me crying again. This is so well done and very realistic.
This is the episode we saw in Finland tonight and it just broke my heart into little pieces. I've watched the whole storyline and there's a part of me that wants to stop watching the whole show because of what is going to happen. But then there's another part of me that wants to keep watching because oh my god, Danny and Mark are so talented and brilliant.
agree, and I live in uk ! only watched this on utube for this storyline, very powerful. have stopped/started many times, is very gripping. Nothing like "Days of our Lives" from USA, or Chrolli (German) or Elias Story (Europe) etc all have their part to play, but this on Emm is best Ive seen. ITV should though have kept Marc long term with Aaron (Danny) and given them a (+) LGBT story - be a leader in prime time - missed opportunity
I have never seen this storyline before this video...but I literally almost cried.
This is simply heart-wrenching... I recently came across this storyline just two days back and I just have to say this is the best gay plot that I have seen so far... I was in tears... Danny is just a brilliant actor... His expressions are just bang on...!!!... The relationships that Aaron shares with everyone has been beautifully portrayed... But I wish they had taken different turn with Aaron-Jackson's story iine... It breaks my heart to see Jackson and even Aaron like this...
Jacksons just trying to push Aaron away, which he has done. you can tell he loves him thats why his doing it.
"EVERY INSTINCT IN MY BODY WAS TELLING ME TO RUN A MILE
MY FRIENDS SAID I WAS MAD....
BUT I WANTED YOU SO BADLY"
god jackson you are breaking my heart right now
i know everyone loves danny (so do I)
but lets give Marc some credit....he is so amazing
I am in love with Jackson.he is really a great actor.he deserves some Awards for his performance.
Jackson's words were like daggers to the heart. If only Aaron could realise what he feels for Jackson is actually love.
i think this is one of the best A+J episodes so far - well maybe except for 220 and 221. So well written and so full of emotions, it leaves me speechless every time.
Need to thank Emmerdate, their writes and all the actors involved in this storyline because this has been one of best storie's that I have seen so far... Its really heart-breaking and can actually break anyone in tears... The story is so intense that it just makes you think about life really deeply and makes you ponder of what would you have done and how would you have reacted if you were in either Aaron-Jackson's shoes... Credit for this brilliant plot goes to the entire team... Just Amazing...
Hurtful as it was to Aaron, I'm glad Jackson said everything he felt he needed to say. Now is not the time for him to bottle anything up. I hear his pain & anger as being ultimately not about Aaron but about himself, his condition now & what he wanted and couldn't get and now believes he'll never have. Aaron loves Jackson, but he couldn't let himself be in love with him, and now it's too late for an "I'm in love with you." At least for now, the ship has sailed on that one. THIS IS HARD BUT REAL.
The writing is amazing! I'm stunned. I cried more than I did on the last clip. So sad for both of them. I can't imagine what Jackson is suffering through. Unbearable obviously. I feel so bad for Aaron ... something said to me like that would almost kill me. I'm sure he feels bad enough. I do think Aaron loves Jackson, but he's scared. He's scared to say words which he has probably NEVER said to ANYONE in his life. Rejection, realistic or not, can cripple someone from admitting love.
This seriously made me cry. And I'm not one to do it easily.
Keep up the good work Danny, Marc, Pauline and Dominic... You are are shining stars... And kudos to Emmerdale for such an amazing story....!!!
Poor Jackson, a person can put up with a lot when they think it's just temporary, but when faced with the rest of your life you can't convince yourself that if you can just get through it everything will be fine again.
Do you want me to start singing? LMAO!
"I thought that was just something we did in public to look cool." "We are cool."
Paddy and Marlon. Need I say more?
OMG this is no ordinary soap stuff, and these guys then and the mum, some
fantastic acting.Only british television can produce this level of theater in an
everyday drama.Hope these two will make a film together someday, you do not see interaction like this very often.Bravo
Well it does not get any better than this love hate stuff- excellent job writers and actors. It was painful but necessary to get to what the cord is of this relationship is between them. This situation has grounded both of them in a reality that is impossible to imagine - i can't wait to see what the writers have in store for us as this could go in so many different ways for the both of them. It is nice to know it will be written with care and not end in a bad dream
This episode was so sad. Poor Jackson! Poor Aaron!
That was emotional. I HOPE that Jackson really doesn't blame Aaron. Aaron really needs his BFF.
The more times I watch this, I think Jackson did exactly the right thing lashing out at Aaron. If I were in Jackson's situation, I could not stand being around someone I loved, who didn't love me. Especially being in such a humiliating state. You would know they were there out of pity or guilt, not love, and who could stand being around someone you love being around you who is not helping you because they love you. It could only make you feel more like a burden and chore than a lover.
Aaron go.
@jodezak I agree. And I know a lot of people are trashing the writers, but I trust them. They are getting exactly what they want: a story that make people getting involved.
And yes, awards for both our boys. *today Marc stoled the spotlight*
Damn Aaron parallels Robert so much in this story and Jackson parallels Aaron in that story. Well other than it rings quite hollow in this story unlike Robron as I have not seen much unbridled if any passion. But A+ acting and characters has kept me engaged.
How so?
Just because we like Robron doesn’t mean we don’t love Aaron. He’s such a fantastic character, and the growth he’s had is amazing to watch!
Powerful scenes and amazing acting. Wow. Jackson’s pain is so raw. I empathize with his rage. Tragically cut down at such a young age. He feels so out of control and helpless and angry at himself mostly. So, what better way to punish himself than to lash out at Aaron who he loves the most? Hopefully, Aaron won’t give up. He needs all his strength and determination to not give up on Jackson. On a side note, I’ve fallen in love with Hazel. She is such a lovely mother to her son.
the pain that both aaron and jackson feel at this moment to papable. my heart is ripping apart for them both.
(cont)It's very tragic if you think about it..most of us go through life with just getting our hearts broken, but poor Jackson not only got his heart broken but paralyzed from the shoulders down as a result of HIS love for Aaron. If the writers do intend on A being IN LOVE with Jackson, it's not right now..maybe in the weeks/months to come he will fall in love with Jackson after seeing how brave and courageous he is tackling his unfortunate circumstances.
couldn't imagine being in Aarons place right now. i know that has got to hurt somethng fierce but, we all know Jackson didn't mean it. He's just feeling sorry for himself being so helpless. I know Aaron will be back and help him back on his feet because there is a great love there
awwwww!!!!!!! This is such a good storyline!
jackson is lashing out at the people he loves , which is only natural
I thought it was very sweet and thoughtful to go to Aaron in the lounge and try to encourage him regarding Jackson's mood. She seems so nice. Are all the nurses in the UK like her? I hope so.
I had to spend a fair time in a hospital on different occasions and always the nurses in the UK are brilliant in that respect. Chatty, thoughtful, funny and encouraging. :)
I know it was the pain speaking and the fear. But still it was crule.... Poor Aaron.
Despite all the harsh things Jackson said, you can't really blame him for being so upset. His world has been turn completely upside down and there's nothing he can do get away from it. I know he didn't want to intentional hurt Aaron the way he did but his frustration was really bottled up.
The only thing I hope is that Jackson's word about still not saying "I love you" have really made Aaron think about how he truly feels about Jackson. Although I don't think Jackson would it believe right now.
Jackson is depressed, angry. He doesn't want the man he loves to be condemned to a life as a carer and not be able to give him the physical love he wants. I am hoping and wishing that there's going to be a happy ending too.
Jees - fck - last 5 seconds - Aaron man, don't walk off a bridge - Jackson is hurting and lashing out - - - - so sad - I may be 7 years late, but this is so well acted
He also thinks Aaron is there out of pity because he couldn't say he loved him before. And still can't but Aaron does love him. He's just scared. That's why he pushed him away later. Didn't stop till he left. Aaron did come back to him after he pushed him away. He said he loved him and probably regretted not saying it before
Just sad... Crying...... :'(
When he got the question "why are you here?" Aaron could at least have said "because I care about you", even though is not exactly what jackson wanted to hear it's much much better than "because you need me", he could even had said "because I need you" like he has said before.
I'm just heartbroken. I know its only a story but this story is tearing me apart. Must it always be a tragedy? Aaron has been through so much, I don't know if anyone in real life could cope with what he's been through. I hope something good is ahead because this story line makes me feel really sad. I love them both and want them to be together.
this speech had lasting impacts on aaron
I think that jackson doesn't really feel this way. He is angry for certain. however, I think that he is probably doing this to force Aaron to move on. he is trying to force him away so as not to burden him or tie him down. Aaron is after all only 18. I believe that Aaron will be persistent at everyone's urging and you will see Jackson come around. It will somehow have a happy ending.
Just saw this .... with tears in my eyes and shivers down my spine .... Jackson is trying to deal with this and right now he is mad at the world and anyone who gets in his way. I think that right now J may hate Aaron but I also think he's trying to make it easy for Aaron ( or so he thinks). He does not want Aaron to stay outof gilt for what happened ...And Aaron with the I love you thing...Aaron was true to him self and said: i don´t know if i love you..and i can´t lie..NOT TO YOU.
Didn't realise how much Aaron suffered after Jackson died. He'd got better after they were together but after he died, he was tortured again and self destructive, hurting himself. If Jackson was around, he'd never have been like that
The nurses comments about stages of grief were the most important and "realistic" comments in the episode. Also, Jackson has to go through this if any change in his condition is ever going to be meaningful (that is, if and when the soap writers allow him to move again). Same for Aaron. Luke and Noah pushed each other away but never so eloquently and never with such clear pain - I blame that on the American soap writing style. I'm upset this is where things are but hoping for a ray of light.
I can totally see where Jackson is coming from. How long has he been toying with the idea that he'd made a BIG mistake with Aaron? We learn that his friends have been telling him to get out of the relationship too. Hazel, on a couple of occasions, did like wise. He gave him second chance after second chance and then.......... He will be hating himself too. I wouldn't blame Aaron but I understand Jackson's anger and frustration.
I had a very similar scene with my first boyfriend when I was hurting that he didn't love me or want me in the same way.. i know it's nothing remotely comparable, but it really hurts to see Jackson hurt so badly that he wants the guy he loves out of his life.
@marcojacksonlvr Well, I was actually responding to @Misstaralouise1994's concern/upset at Jackson "wishing Aaron was dead" - a reference to the suicidal/car full of fumes comment. You raise an interesting point though. I imagine that there were kernels of truth in the emotions expressed, but I can't agree that Jackson meant every word he said. The emotional turmoil is speaking and that's understandable, but Jackson makes his goal clear: "I want you to leave me" and he pushes until he gets that.
@nyser1Cheers mate!! OMG I can't believe you said that!!!! I swear I was thinking the exact same thing..no joke...I love getting other people's point of view. That's what makes us grow and learn. I truely find it fascinating how we all perceive things differently and that's ok, if not we would all be robots:)
@Sophieepie You are not the only one Soph, can't wait to watch monday's episode.
arghhhhhhhhhhhhh, hurts so bad... : (
I love the brother and sister relationship of Chas and Cane !
@jodezak continued: Jackson needs someone with strong continence and strength and someone who wants to be there caue HE can't live without him and someone who is willing through hard times and good .. to stick by him no matter what. Jackson * iE the writers* have done this in hopes to get Aaron to come out ofhis comfort zone and realize he does love him. It wont happen right away.. but at Holidays I am hoping for a reunion :)
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Jackson loves Aaron;and he does not want young Aaron to be a lifetime care giver.
I will come back later and post.. for obvious reasons.. My eyes can't see the screen. I have to collect my thoughts here. :(
Omg, so heartbreaking ...
I think Jackson's reaction is very realistic. His whole world has just collapsed, he is mad at being in this situation and takes it out on the people around him. Poor Aaron though, he looked really gutted.
I believe as hurt as Jackson feels, he said all those awful things to Aaron to push him away, because he really loves Aaron.
@yournewsecretcrush It seems u feel and understand all this storyline as much as i do. I´m in awe since March!!xx
Jackson was very hard on Aaron... but i can udernstand. He is not an angel, he is a human and he wanted to burst. But Aaron won' leave him im sure. let's see how the writers will handle this!
@iddoogier68 This will get thumbs down, but truth is harder to believe than fantasy or hope. For those that believe, Aaron IS IN love with Jackson. NAWT. Look at how the writers "constructed the dialog". Jackson gave him TWO opportunities - looking for the right answer. Aaron's response:
1. "I am here because you need me. You were there for me when I needed you". That is loyalty, NOT love.
2.) "You can't even lie to me." "Would you want me to lie?"
Hope doesn't always spring eternal.
cont ... Aaron feels it I'm sure, but he doesn't want to say something he is unsure of. He won't like to Jackson, which I think is extremely noble. He won't force himself to say something he can't realize yet. His fear is in control. Hopefully he'll overcome this. And I freaken hope Jackson overcomes his issues (physical state and all) soon too! So sad :-(
That's too bad. He's the only reason I'd watch it again. Thanks for the answer.
Each episode more painful and gripping than the last. Leaves you feeling completely ... pole-axed, as they say here in Britain. Totally selfishly I feel: please, enough. This is agonising. But at the same time I remember : this is a realistic story. This is what happens in the world every day. It is true-to-life and well acted. It is strong, compelling drama, I have to say. Let it continue...
I think of Elizabeth Kübler-Ross's book "On Death and Dying".In her studies she found the second stage of the 5 stages of Grief is Anger. That's where Jackson is, He feels dead. His anger is directed to others, and himself, but to Aaron the most. because Aaron hurt him the most.Jackson is the kindest person, of course he didn't wish Aaron had died and doesn't blame him for his accident.Jackson will be sad he said those things and want to seen Aaron tho he reminds him of what he'll never have.
@pianomist I know Jackson doesn't mean what he said: he just wants to stop the heartache for aaron so he can move on... ;(
I think Jackson was only trying to push him away because he doesn't want him to be with him like that.
@marcojacksonlvr I'm going to wait and see how this plays out. That said, it's so great to get additional perspectives on this relationship. Whether or not we agree, I've really enjoyed the discussion that was stirred up by this episode and the opportunity to benefit from all of the insight :)
my heart beaks for Jackson!but the thing is "IFs" don't get anyone no where!
I think it's clear that Aaron doesn't love Jackson,y, the way
Jackson loves Aaron.I'm glad Jackson has Hazel, since he never really
had Aaron. It's sad, but I can understand everything Jackson says and feels. I may not agree with him blaming Aaron for his ruined life, but I can understand his anger for allowing himself to love a person who is incapable of loving him. For Jackson to put himself out there, despite what friends said, he wanted Aaron so badly, now he gets Aaron's pity .Aaron leave.
I really wanna see more of Jackson like today, instead of only Aaron's reaction and how Aaron's is been affected by this.
Marc, you are AMAZING !!!
I haven't watched this show since Danny left. Has Aaron come back as a guest yet?
God this Storyline is Heartbreaking.. I feel soo sorry for Jackson..The things he said were harsh..But i think he done it out of Frustation ...My heart Breaks for them both..But i can't stand seeing Aaron Crying..He looks soo hurt :(
@iddoogier68 And when Jackson specifically asked him, "Why are you HERE" - looking for "I love you" Aaron told him, "You wouldn't want me to lie to you, would you?"
The excuse of age and whatever doesn't fly anymore. Aaron doesn't feel it like Jackson. Period. He's had MORE than enough time and tragedy to define his feelings. 18 or NOT. Something doesn't mean love. Or more importantly IN LOVE.
I really can't do it... It's too much... One of the most dramatic and most painful storylines, if not the most.
Every gay couple on tv has or had something special, these two guys made the most heartbreaking scenes.
@hearditman At least you made me laugh with that one! I needed it after spending all Sunday like a total mess as a result of watching Thursday and Friday epis this morning
I believe that they truly love each other. Aaron has never been able to say it and if he would have said it when Jackson asked him why he comes to the hospital, it wouldn't have been believable. It would be nice to see Aaron tell him at some point though.
@iddoogier68 I do agree that Aaron loves Jackson, it's just that he is NOT IN LOVE with him. He himself told Jackson he could NOT lie to him about loving him. Jackson pretty much hit it on the nail when he said " even NOW you can't say it"! I'm sorry but if Aaron at this point after everything that has happened, especially after Jackson almost died, still doesn't know if he is in love then he CLEARLY is not. And I for one believes Jackson needs and DESERVES someone who knows their feelings.
I feel sorry for Aaron and Jackson 👑👑
If it meant walking again and NOT being paralyzed from the shoulders down at the age of 23, I too would wish I had NEVER met Aaron..that's just being REALISTIC and HONEST. My gosh this is someone that he has ONLY known for NOT even a year and look what has happened as a result.
@robertn800 Yes, I think a lot of fans on here have got carried away and treated this like the romance of the year - but as you point out, looking back at the facts, it really WASN'T. Aaron was just finding his way, was certainly not mature enough for a full on relationship. Jackson just happened to be the one to help his transition.
As of now, I have nothing else to say, mainly because Jackson said it all...
well to be honest this was always going to happen as Jackson was being to calm like in denial and these guys are doing this story brilliantly and Jackson was always going to vent and as usual its always the one you love that gets it in the neck Aaron over the next few weeks wil come to realise he does love him and needs him as much as Jackson needs him. Aaron will leave him for a few days to give him space but you will see next week he cant keep away from the one person who loves him for him
oy this hurt..... really hard to watch :( oddly enough this reminded me of Luke & Noah's storyline last year, which ATWT handled horribly by the way. Noah blamed Luke for his blindness, pushed him away and in the end they couldn't get past it. Let's see how Emmerdale handles this.
I don't think Jackson was feeling sorry for himself, I think he was Damn Angry, not only at Aaron but also himself. He was mad at himself for ignoring his own instinct, his friends and for ever getting involved with Aaron. Well we all know what he was mad at Aaron for. Another thing that makes me doubt Aaron loving Jackson, was when the Nurse was saying they could teach him how to take care of Jackson-Aaron said "what if I can't" Like Jackson said, it makes me wonder when Aaron would bale on him
I don't understand, why didn't Aaron tell Jackson that he loves him? He said it to Paddy, why didn't he just say it to Jackson? Or at least when Jackson was asking him why he was there, he could have said 'I care about you' or SOMETHING!!
DA-YAM! It was inevitable someone was going to mention the words Jackson finally said. It was just a matter of time.
God ive never really liked Jackson but thus just puts the icing on the cake. What a bastard!!
I do feel sorry, that this reinforces what Aaron said about himself that everyone who's ever cared about him has gotten hurt, Paddy, Clyde (who else?) and now Jackson. That's a lot of guilt to carry.
even though he said somethings quite hurtful i did not get the sense that jackson meant any of it u could see it in his eyes he didnt mean it, hes just lashing out at everone bc well he feels like hes suffocating and theres nothing he can do about it literally
they werent out with them cause it was only meant to be him and Aaron that night, but paddy and marlon invited themselfs.
up untill the end, Jacksons telling Aaron to go, and when that doesn't work he blames him just to push him away
Jackson is saying he thinks Aaron will leave him sooner or later so go now. And he won't be able to be physical. He's angry Aaron couldn't say he loved him and then that happened so in a way he blamed him although it was an accident. He's hurting because he thinks Aaron doesn't love him like he does and it's all for nothing. Aaron loves him and regrets it
@ttortier20 well protecting him from going through pains in the future! He wants to set Aaron free because he doesn't want Aaron to stick with a man that doesn't even know what will happen in the future. That's why he's saying all those things to Aaron, he cares so much about Aaron that he doesn't want A to go through all the tough times with him in the future!!