Hi Lance, thanks mate. Yes, light coats really do make a massive, massive difference in the end result. I learnt something while filming this! Cheers, Dave
I've been trying the hairspray technique but find it absurdly difficult to scrape paint away afterwards. Is it because gloss and semi-gloss paints don't work for this?
Hi! A while ago I bought the Vallejo chipping medium but haven't had the opportunity to try it yet, so your video was very encouraging. Thanks for sharing.
It would be interesting to see a test like this using different brands of hairspray to see if there is a large difference in results or if it is pretty much the same. I am not an expert in hairsprays, but I would guess there must be a difference in heavy, medium and light hairspray wouldn't there?
Thanks for taking the time to do this, as an Australian, which hairspray did u use mate, its hard to get the Tresemme Ultra fine in Aus which is what Panz and co use
Great video Dave! I will have to look at the Vallejo stuff, I do like the effects it gives, and better than the AK medium for sure. Those final results on your Sci-fi bits looks awesome! Really nice stuff, especially on the yellow bit where you used the Vallejo stuff. That is top quality chipping! One thing, you mentioned earlier that the chipping was almost starting in some areas after you applied the base paint. I think that's just the chipping fluid still being a little wet when the top coat is applied, so it's gives you a little bit of a cracking effect? Not 100% sure, but I've just noticed that occurring sometimes whenever I use the AK chipping fluid.
Hi Panzermeister, thanks for the feedback sir. You may be right about the chipping fluid still being wet, I left it to dry for several hours on a 30+ degree day (86+ degrees Fahrenheit) so thought it was sorted, but it may not have been. It definitely was only on the thickly applied coats, so you may have something there. I'll keep that in mind next time. Hope you're well mate, D
As far as sealing it goes, for something that may be handled a bit more, how well does that work? Does the sealer make it darker and less natural. What are the pros and cons of sealing this technique?
Hi Pepito, sealing it with a gloss or matt coat shouldn't really alter the effect greatly (no more than any other painted surface). I find varnishes darken weathering like rust or pigments, but for this method it's just paint anyway, so it's no different to sealing any other paintjob. Cheers, Dave
Dave, as usual, very useful video. I've got one question by the way - witch airbrush you use? I'm about to change my one, wondering about Harder&Steenbeck
Eugene Zharikov I use a very cheap airbrush, a Sparmax. I’m also considering upgrading, as mine is nearing the end of its life. If you find something amazing for a good price, do please let me know!
Really you will get another level of results if the PAINT layer had been consistent...especially with medium to lighter coat. (Heavy over heavy was not a fair test). But you came up with interesting results anyway.
This is true. That would be a fairly large test if you did all the possible combinations like heavy paint on heavy chipping, medium paint on heavy, light paint on heavy and so on. You would need a total of 27 spoons for that, and a lot of toothbrush tapping :) It would be interesting to see the results though.
The chipping techniques I've seen everywhere so far just deal with a single layer of paint over a base cost. Nobody has tackled what happens when you add a second layer of paint, such as green over grey WWII RAF camouflage. Is there a difference?
I wouldn't think there is a difference. You could do three layers of paint - basecoat, hairspray then first coat (grey in this example). Wet it, chip away the grey. Then another layer of hairspray before the final green topcoat, which you could then chip. I have found once you've wet the hairspray once, it's very, very difficult to go back again and try to get it to do more chipping, so I would think it would be pretty stable for the final layer.
just what i was looking for strangely....i guess you're spying on your subscribers search results hmmm, just kidding, great video mate, helped me a lot
Medium is great. Would have been cool to see a red oxide primer look simply for the contrast. Love this video and bookmarked it. Thanks Dave.
Big thanks for doing this experiment and uploading for us still learning...Brilliant results...BIG thanks from UK
Cheers, thanks Lewis. I hope it helped.
Great demo. Useing 3 spoons was a good sampler. I got hair spray for this purpose and now know that I should keep it light. Thanx.
Hi Lance, thanks mate. Yes, light coats really do make a massive, massive difference in the end result. I learnt something while filming this! Cheers, Dave
I've been trying the hairspray technique but find it absurdly difficult to scrape paint away afterwards. Is it because gloss and semi-gloss paints don't work for this?
Hi!
A while ago I bought the Vallejo chipping medium but haven't had the opportunity to try it yet, so your video was very encouraging.
Thanks for sharing.
It would be interesting to see a test like this using different brands of hairspray to see if there is a large difference in results or if it is pretty much the same. I am not an expert in hairsprays, but I would guess there must be a difference in heavy, medium and light hairspray wouldn't there?
Aussie man taps plastic spoons with a tooth brush for 29 minutes. You will never guess what he discovers.
Pretty much mate! ;) When you put it like that, it doesn't sound so enthralling... heh heh.
I recently bought the Vallejo medium, only to discover that Tamiya spraypaint isn't acrylic! Absolute bollocks. Cheers from Canada.
Thanks for taking the time to do this, as an Australian, which hairspray did u use mate, its hard to get the Tresemme Ultra fine in Aus which is what Panz and co use
I just use Coles brand hairspray - cheap as chips!
VERY COOL. I learn something new every day/ I had no idea how this Chipping works....NOW I KNOW. Thanks for the Lesson and Video.
Thanks Ellis. It's a pretty simple technique, as long as you lay the right foundations. Cheers, Dave
Great video, very informative. One question though, did you need to thin the Vallejo Chipping Medium before you airbrushed it on?
I didn't thin any, I just used them straight from the bottle.
Thank you.
Brill video Dave !! Like both yours and Evans !!
Thanks Motty! Cheers mate, Dave
I'm looking at the lawn.....DEAR GOD! I'M LOOKING.AT.THE.LAWN!
I hadn't noticed till you mentioned it. Thanks for the laugh!
Great video Dave! I will have to look at the Vallejo stuff, I do like the effects it gives, and better than the AK medium for sure. Those final results on your Sci-fi bits looks awesome! Really nice stuff, especially on the yellow bit where you used the Vallejo stuff. That is top quality chipping!
One thing, you mentioned earlier that the chipping was almost starting in some areas after you applied the base paint. I think that's just the chipping fluid still being a little wet when the top coat is applied, so it's gives you a little bit of a cracking effect? Not 100% sure, but I've just noticed that occurring sometimes whenever I use the AK chipping fluid.
Hi Panzermeister, thanks for the feedback sir. You may be right about the chipping fluid still being wet, I left it to dry for several hours on a 30+ degree day (86+ degrees Fahrenheit) so thought it was sorted, but it may not have been. It definitely was only on the thickly applied coats, so you may have something there. I'll keep that in mind next time. Hope you're well mate, D
Very useful and fun experiment... Thank for sharing....
My pleasure, glad you liked it Omar.
As far as sealing it goes, for something that may be handled a bit more, how well does that work? Does the sealer make it darker and less natural. What are the pros and cons of sealing this technique?
Hi Pepito, sealing it with a gloss or matt coat shouldn't really alter the effect greatly (no more than any other painted surface). I find varnishes darken weathering like rust or pigments, but for this method it's just paint anyway, so it's no different to sealing any other paintjob. Cheers, Dave
Thank's for this test Dave, great help indeed ;)
My pleasure, PlastikDream :)
Dave, as usual, very useful video. I've got one question by the way - witch airbrush you use? I'm about to change my one, wondering about Harder&Steenbeck
Eugene Zharikov I use a very cheap airbrush, a Sparmax. I’m also considering upgrading, as mine is nearing the end of its life. If you find something amazing for a good price, do please let me know!
Have you tried Mig Ammo chipping medium since you did this vid?
No, I've stuck with hairspray generally. How do you find the Mig Ammo version Matt?
Very informative video, thank you.
Thanks monsterfan57!
This is pure ASMR
Really you will get another level of results if the PAINT layer had been consistent...especially with medium to lighter coat. (Heavy over heavy was not a fair test). But you came up with interesting results anyway.
That's a fair point, agreed Timothy.
This is true. That would be a fairly large test if you did all the possible combinations like heavy paint on heavy chipping, medium paint on heavy, light paint on heavy and so on. You would need a total of 27 spoons for that, and a lot of toothbrush tapping :) It would be interesting to see the results though.
The chipping techniques I've seen everywhere so far just deal with a single layer of paint over a base cost. Nobody has tackled what happens when you add a second layer of paint, such as green over grey WWII RAF camouflage. Is there a difference?
I wouldn't think there is a difference. You could do three layers of paint - basecoat, hairspray then first coat (grey in this example). Wet it, chip away the grey. Then another layer of hairspray before the final green topcoat, which you could then chip. I have found once you've wet the hairspray once, it's very, very difficult to go back again and try to get it to do more chipping, so I would think it would be pretty stable for the final layer.
Bugger ! And the AK is what I just bought, great, informative video though.
Isn't that always the way? Thanks Ted :)
Dave, cut those spoons and use them as oval intakes. Wish I could draw a picture, but I'm certain you get the idea.
That's not a bad idea HG... You've set my mind a-thinking... Cheers mate, hope you're well, Dave
Good... NOW buy my book LOLOL... please. :)
just what i was looking for strangely....i guess you're spying on your subscribers search results hmmm, just kidding, great video mate, helped me a lot
Glad I was able to provide The Answer to you, The Answer! ;)
we better keep doing models and leave humor for others ^^
Heh heh, it's not my strongest skill mate!
neither mine ^^
Dang! Please mow that lawn. I had a hard time concentrating on the tutorial.
Fred Sanford heh heh, I’m slack with my lawn, I can’t deny! 😂😂😂
thought the noise was an air compressor. haha
"came off in slabs of skin" HA
Sounds gross when you point it out! Heh heh! :D