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  • Maybe I should become the lamp-fairy and swap dead bulbs for new. This isn't the first dead LED bulb I've snaffled from a pub. The most notable one being a blue LED downlight from the toilets of a bar of ill repute.
    In this instance though, I took the flickering bulb out to see if I could see an obvious LED failure, but then realised how HOT it was for not producing light - and decided it was better not to put it back in.
    Totally crunchy inside, but enough evidence to trace the key chip manufacturer and deduce which of the example schematics had been used. It also explained why a dead bulb was still dissipating 2W of power as heat.
    One of the key points of failure was the use of all the LED filaments in series, meaning that a single failed LED caused the whole bulb to flicker and go dim. It's also quite interesting that the reason the base was still getting hot and dissipating a surprising 2W of power was because of the triac-dimmer friendly extra load section.
    It also identified a mystery component that I have come across in the past, but never worked out what it was.
    If you enjoy these videos you can help support the channel with a dollar for coffee, cookies and random gadgets for disassembly at:- www.bigclive.com/coffee.htm
    This also keeps the channel independent of UA-cam's algorithm quirks, allowing it to be a bit more dangerous and naughty.
    #ElectronicsCreators

КОМЕНТАРІ • 466

  • @user-jo3gj1jx3e
    @user-jo3gj1jx3e 10 місяців тому +622

    If you get caught stealing bulbs, can you expect a light sentence?

    • @oldbatwit5102
      @oldbatwit5102 10 місяців тому +89

      LED to jail?

    • @SomeoneBloodyRandom
      @SomeoneBloodyRandom 10 місяців тому

      @@oldbatwit5102 Off to Prism for the both of you!

    • @Palmit_
      @Palmit_ 10 місяців тому +44

      the jury is OUT ?

    • @tncorgi92
      @tncorgi92 10 місяців тому +35

      That was brilliant.

    • @gs425
      @gs425 10 місяців тому +13

      Get handcuffed by the screws

  • @Lizlodude
    @Lizlodude 10 місяців тому +46

    I'm imagining Clive walking around random pubs, finding a burnt out bulb, opening his trench coat and pulling out a replacement, and quietly swapping them 😅

  • @markpunt9638
    @markpunt9638 10 місяців тому +130

    I think you managed to avoid the entire pub going up in flames.

    • @I_Don_t_want_a_handle
      @I_Don_t_want_a_handle 10 місяців тому +6

      That's one insurance job that will need rethinking ... 😄

    • @pookey06
      @pookey06 6 місяців тому

      ​@@I_Don_t_want_a_handleWonkey Pub arsonists looking at this and rethinking their defense strategy...

  • @bod9001a
    @bod9001a 10 місяців тому +14

    Clive the lightbulb fairy, simply put the broken light bulb underneath your pillow and in the morning you will wake up with the circuit diagram for the lightbulb underneath your pillow

  • @Pants4096
    @Pants4096 10 місяців тому +29

    I've probably said this before, but your voice, your demeanor, and your personality just make me so happy. Your expertise and knowledge completes the whole package. Thank you for sharing yourself and your talents with us!

  • @mark111943
    @mark111943 10 місяців тому +6

    I can just imagine the staff at the pub complaining how “people will nick anything, the buggers tool one of our globes”!

  • @mikemike7001
    @mikemike7001 10 місяців тому +142

    Watching you peel away the metal base was somehow oddly satisfying. Don't mind that it took a little while. 🙂

    • @dogwalker666
      @dogwalker666 10 місяців тому +5

      I enjoy doing it, But often end up bleeding on it.

    • @tncorgi92
      @tncorgi92 10 місяців тому

      It's like peeling a scab, a little bit at a time, so satisfying. 😊

    • @dogwalker666
      @dogwalker666 10 місяців тому +2

      @BreatheScotland 🚑🏥

    • @frogz
      @frogz 10 місяців тому +2

      and shockingly little blood!

    • @deslomeslager
      @deslomeslager 10 місяців тому +2

      I not so much, I press arrow->right a few times to skip 5 seconds per click. We all have our ways.

  • @der.Schtefan
    @der.Schtefan 10 місяців тому +13

    "Sir, sir! Put down the bulb sir! Sir! You are scaring the children! Sir? Sir!"
    "Nooo! I am the buuulllb faaaaaairryy!"

  • @craignehring
    @craignehring 10 місяців тому +19

    LED's sure have changed the lighting industry.
    Clive has always been here to get into the thick of it, thank GOD for that
    Thank you Clive

  • @Hazzard2theworld911
    @Hazzard2theworld911 10 місяців тому +5

    Clive, I’ve been having a rough go lately, but I want to let you know that your videos here and guides on your site have helped me stay centered and calm. Thank you.

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  10 місяців тому +4

      I'm glad they've helped. Hope things get smoother soon.

  • @stepheneyles2198
    @stepheneyles2198 10 місяців тому +117

    You've just stolen their precious flame-effect lamp!!! They had saved up for ages to get that one, and now it's been demolished 😆

    • @technoman9000
      @technoman9000 10 місяців тому +23

      I had a similarly malfunctioning bulb and I used it to add an entertaining random flickering effect for Halloween visitors. With the added excitement of it possibly bursting into flames, good times were had by all.

    • @tactileslut
      @tactileslut 10 місяців тому +4

      @technoman9000 I'll make sure to put my defective bug zapper bulb back out near the road on Halloween.

    • @ianhosier4042
      @ianhosier4042 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@@technoman9000no need to prepare a bonfire then

    • @spvillano
      @spvillano 10 місяців тому +1

      @@ianhosier4042 what and leave the mother-in-law out of the festivities?

    • @Lizlodude
      @Lizlodude 10 місяців тому +1

      @@tactileslut It just Van-de-graaff's random kids as they pass by XD

  • @jaye1967
    @jaye1967 10 місяців тому +25

    A lamp that gets hot... so it was becoming an incandescent. No wonder it wasn't putting out much light.😂

    • @ianhosier4042
      @ianhosier4042 10 місяців тому +3

      Would have been funny had it filled with smoke

    • @spvillano
      @spvillano 10 місяців тому

      Well, Trump wanted incandescent bulbs back... ;)

  • @mxslick50
    @mxslick50 10 місяців тому +6

    Our favorite bear in a pub of ill repute? Say it isn't so!! And I agree that you becoming the lamp-fairy would be satisfyingly appropriate.

  • @scottsmall9898
    @scottsmall9898 10 місяців тому +6

    Im one of the people that love watching you fight to get into the bulbs. Your videos are so amazing i love watching and I've learned so much from them.

    • @spvillano
      @spvillano 10 місяців тому

      When I've opened them myself, as I'm wont to do, I use the same method, although usually abusing my needlenose pliers. Unwrap the thing like an old ham can or sardine tin.
      Oops, giving away my age, huh?

  • @technoman9000
    @technoman9000 10 місяців тому +50

    I probably would have returned and replaced it with a new bulb, because you should always leave a place better than you found it.

    • @TheSpotify95
      @TheSpotify95 10 місяців тому +4

      Indeed, I'd have gone into my random box of SES lamps, pulled out the crappiest/least suitable for my home use (which is still in working order - so a CFL) and returned back to the pub, fitting the replacement in place of the failed-and-burned LED.

    • @frogz
      @frogz 10 місяців тому +7

      @@TheSpotify95 i have bulbs that are still working that are 3 mandated efficiency replacement generations old!

    • @Lucien86
      @Lucien86 10 місяців тому +1

      @@frogz Is that candles? Oil lamps? Gas lamps?

    • @frogz
      @frogz 10 місяців тому +3

      @@Lucien86 those too, complete with thorium mantles! actually i have pretty much every generation of bulbs, incendecent, flourescent, compact flourescent, halogen, 1st gen led, current leds in 50 different types, metal halide, high pressure sodium, mercury vapor, i would kill for a SOX/low pressure sodium lamp and fixture!! probably a ton of them in a warehouse here in chicago area that they ripped out and replaced with led years ago

    • @AtomicExtremophile
      @AtomicExtremophile 10 місяців тому +1

      I don't remember Big Clive saying he just stole the lamp from the live working display...
      I saw it differently, the pub realises it has a faulty bulb, replaces it, and Big Clive took it home...

  • @tncorgi92
    @tncorgi92 10 місяців тому +20

    I think the manufacturers got smart, they're configuring devices to behave differently when being used in a Big Clive video.

    • @mySeaPrince_
      @mySeaPrince_ 10 місяців тому +4

      Clive didn't spot the GPS chip 😻

    • @MrFunkia
      @MrFunkia 10 місяців тому +3

      Do you mean like VW diesel cars, when they go for their MOT test?!??

    • @tncorgi92
      @tncorgi92 10 місяців тому +1

      @@MrFunkia haha yes, fun fact: I had an opportunity to move to Chattanooga and work at the VW plant just before all that happened, I feel like I dodged a bullet. Besides, Chattanooga is becoming pricier to live in and they're having growing pains including infrastructure, road and crime problems.

  • @JessicaFEREM
    @JessicaFEREM 10 місяців тому +8

    only clive would have a moral quandary about stealing a bulb that should've been in the trash months ago
    😇

    • @spvillano
      @spvillano 10 місяців тому +2

      Really, I'd have zero qualms over it, but then what I spend in the pub, they can accord a case of the damned things. Per week.

  • @CanizaM
    @CanizaM 10 місяців тому +15

    Not sure this is what happened here but I've fixed a few LED bulbs in the past that went dim because one of the current sensing resistors (usually 2 in parallel) was poorly soldered and went open. Several of them failed like this after less than a year of operation, but after being fixed have now been in use for over a decade.

  • @ianm1470
    @ianm1470 10 місяців тому +27

    You may have nicked the lamp ~ but you probably have saved the pub from burning to the ground. So thumbs up from me 👍🏻

    • @chartle1
      @chartle1 10 місяців тому

      but left an energized socket that someone could stick their finger in. 🤔

    • @volvo09
      @volvo09 10 місяців тому +9

      ​@@chartle1yeah, I constantly have to stop people from putting their fingers in exposed lamp holders. Must be every time I go out I see the couple next to me reaching up to the wall and attempting to stick their finger in an empty socket.

    • @oldbatwit5102
      @oldbatwit5102 10 місяців тому +2

      @@volvo09 I know what you mean. It's a bloody epidemic.

    • @chartle1
      @chartle1 10 місяців тому +1

      @@volvo09didn't he say it was from a pub aka an establishment that serves alcohol? 🤔x2. 🤣

    • @bsod5608
      @bsod5608 10 місяців тому +2

      ​​@@chartle1fortunatly Clive is not in the US, so the energized socket will probably not harm anyone...

  • @johnrehwinkel7241
    @johnrehwinkel7241 10 місяців тому +1

    I'm amusing myself imagining you (or me) with a giant Santa Claus sack of different replacement bulbs, merrily swapping out dead ones, as there are a wide variety of interesting ones out there. It would probably be more practical to just nick the dead one, obtain a suitable replacement, and go back and install it, but that would involve a lot more extra trips and bookkeeping.

  • @lagmonster7789
    @lagmonster7789 10 місяців тому +2

    The Disassembly ASMR is strong with this one 😄

  • @runforitman
    @runforitman 10 місяців тому +2

    1:53 I enjoy seeing you pull things apart. It gives me ideas of how to disassemble my dubiously obtained goods

  • @petersage5157
    @petersage5157 10 місяців тому +7

    "Is this part of the manufacturing or is this just a huge mess?" The two are not necessarily antithetical.
    As for being the lamp fairy...maybe the lamp bear?

  • @jennyjansen754
    @jennyjansen754 10 місяців тому +17

    It is interesting to consider the evolution of lighting over the years if it was a really old pub. From whale oil to coal gas to carbon incandescent to tungsten incandescent to florescent to LED.

    • @grayrabbit2211
      @grayrabbit2211 10 місяців тому +5

      ...with the LED being the least likely to reach its promised runtime.

    • @seeharvester
      @seeharvester 9 місяців тому

      You forgot candles.

    • @masterkamen371
      @masterkamen371 8 місяців тому

      Would they have even had carbon filament bulbs? A rather famous bar in the history of my city got electric lights in the 1920s and it was one of the first bars with electric power in the whole country. By that point it was well into the age of tungsten filament bulbs.

  • @wankerwhooper716
    @wankerwhooper716 10 місяців тому +1

    Here we go lads. Ive got absolutely no Idea why Im watching this at 1AM on monday but damn that bulb really did light up Innit?

  • @marcse7en
    @marcse7en 10 місяців тому +5

    Hey Big Clive, this will interest you!
    Although NOT LED, I have a 1929 (94 years old) carbon filament light bulb, made to mark the 50th Anniversary of Edison's Electric Light (1879-1929). The bulb was made in the United States, and runs on US mains voltage. The bulb is mounted on wooden base, and has two uninsulated metal thumb screws for power. The underside is insulated with wax! Definitely no UL or CE Marks!
    The bulb works, and as long as you're careful, you don't get electrocuted! I bought the bulb on eBay in 2013 from an American seller for around £50.00. It's a thing of beauty, and probably quite rare?
    What do you think of that then? And no, you're NOT reverse-engineering it! 🤣

    • @stargazer7644
      @stargazer7644 10 місяців тому

      They're counterfeit and mass produced in a Chinese factory for 6 cents each.

    • @tomface55
      @tomface55 10 місяців тому +2

      Thats pretty neat.

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  10 місяців тому +5

      I can recall my dad telling me that when they refurbished the library he worked in they found some of the cupboards still had vintage lamps in them from the very earliest era of electric lighting. He was hoping to get one, but the contractors took them all.

    • @marcse7en
      @marcse7en 10 місяців тому

      @@bigclivedotcom How many LED light bulbs will still be working in a hundred years from now? Not many, I'll wager? ... The lamps that the contractors took almost certainly ended up on eBay! ... Carbon filament lamps are horribly inefficient, but like tungsten, they're beautiful!

    • @marcse7en
      @marcse7en 10 місяців тому +1

      @@Matt_Quinn-CaledonianTV You assume correctly. A step-down transformer and an electronic dimmer switch. Due to the age and fragility, and to avoid "shocking" the carbon filament, the lamp should not receive full voltage immediately, but, as you say, be illuminated gently. Additionally, I only run the lamp at low voltage, so it just glows a beautiful golden colour, this also avoids darkening of the glass envelope through carbon deposition. It really is a beautiful object, and it really should be enclosed in a display case, or a bell jar or the like. It's remarkable its survived for almost 100 years! If it was damaged or broken, I'd be really saddened!

  • @holzwurm_hd7029
    @holzwurm_hd7029 10 місяців тому +1

    Admitting that you are stealing defective light bulbs is the most you thing i have ever Heard 😂

  • @jadesprite
    @jadesprite 10 місяців тому

    When you do the busy work of peeling something open, I use that time to check the comments while listening. So keep on it!

  • @phils4634
    @phils4634 10 місяців тому +4

    The marvel is how they manage to squeeze ANY form of PSU (no matter how minimalist) into such a small space, and do this for millions of devices. It wasn't that long ago when LED drivers were reasonably chunky!!

    • @Ragnar8504
      @Ragnar8504 10 місяців тому +1

      Somewhere in a cupboard I still have one of the first Edison-base compact fluorescent lamps. These things had wire-wound ballasts and weighed a tonne! They were also huge, maybe 80 mm diametre and almost 200 mm long. Philips, late 1980s I think. My parents bought them for the hallway light that was usually on for most of the day. That light saw multiple generations of CFLs and I was incredibly glad when LEDs finally became good enough to replace those. Not having to wait two minutes for the light to reach something akin to full brightness was a major bonus!

  • @IvyMike.
    @IvyMike. 10 місяців тому +8

    I must say, I do like that test box, It's a very useful, viable solution for quick testers and professionals alike, as these users know where, NOT to poke you fingers.
    It is It's crudity and hazardous to use in the wrong hands that makes It a good tool, like a big lathe or an excavator, lethal in the wrong hands.

    • @spvillano
      @spvillano 10 місяців тому

      I'm definitely a professional, but we all can get a bit complacent and need a rude reminder on occasion. Better to get it from a coworker though.
      Was checking my coffeepot, which wasn't heating up. Had the bottom off, didn't feel like unplugging it, so rather than resistance measurements, I went to voltage measurements and found what I had suspected initially, a failed thermal fuse.
      So, then I moved to disconnect it from the mains. While doing so, while sitting in shorts on a ceramic tile over sand over concrete floor, my knuckle brushed the hot and I completed a circuit from knuckle to ground, via my scrotum. UK standard 230 volts, 50 hz, so it was tingly. Had it been US voltage, I probably wouldn't have even noticed it.
      Complacency can get you killed, or at least part one doesn't want cooked, lightly seared on the reality grille.
      Nastiest I got was 35kv pulsating DC 7875 hz, riding on 130 VDC. Pinhole in the insulation in the second anode output of a flyback transformer. Arced to my right index finger as I reseated the board after adjusting vertical height, arced from my left index finger to the tuner ground. After a serious run on those Zenith TV modules, Zenith sent one of the design team engineers to review what was going on and I brought it up. The engineer said, to blow the regulator chip the way it failed, I had to have drawn 3 amps arm to arm of DC current.
      Yeah, felt like it. My heart had actually briefly stopped, which was an exceptionally weird sensation, then jumped and restarted, couldn't feel half of my forearm down to my hands. Drove home and called the office, taking three tries to dial, told them I got lit up badly, reordered the module and took the rest of the day off. Sore as hell the following day.

    • @christophersebastian4855
      @christophersebastian4855 10 місяців тому

      Yeah you want to be careful.

  • @channelsixtysix066
    @channelsixtysix066 10 місяців тому

    Clive's autopsies are the best.

  • @-FOXX
    @-FOXX 10 місяців тому

    I enjoy that you don't skip

  • @Arachnoid_of_the_underverse
    @Arachnoid_of_the_underverse 10 місяців тому +1

    The landlord knows which pub it was 😆

  • @SueBobChicVid
    @SueBobChicVid 10 місяців тому +2

    Bigclive, "I see dead lamps."

  • @aufoslab
    @aufoslab 10 місяців тому +9

    Why u stole a Lamp man?!?! 😂

  • @nexpro6985
    @nexpro6985 10 місяців тому +1

    Loving the LED liberating larceny.

  • @PushyPawn
    @PushyPawn 10 місяців тому +1

    Fault finding, my favourite! 👍

  • @Catastropheshe
    @Catastropheshe 10 місяців тому

    This video is getting more and more interesting the longer you dig the more you find 😂

  • @SomeoneBloodyRandom
    @SomeoneBloodyRandom 10 місяців тому +1

    Bar Staff: Ok, I get nicking the glasses BUT THE F#ING LIGHT BULBS!

  • @mauricek923
    @mauricek923 10 місяців тому +4

    A kind of guilty pleasure of mine is opening defective LED lamps and dismantling them 😇 Just to see how they are made, how the designs and manufacturing evaluates.
    I regularly "steal" defective LED lamps. I live alternately in the Netherlands and Belgium. And there you will find special waste bins for defective LED lamps in many places, such as the hardware store, supermarkets, shops that sell electronics, drugstores and more. And usually combined with bins for empty batteries. And often also bins for defective electronics/e-waste.
    (I'm actually curious what this is like in other countries. They also have these types of packs in many places so that it is easy for people to dispose of e-waste in a better way than throwing it in household waste or dumping it.)
    Great "dumster dive" spots for people like me who like tinkering with e-waste 🤪🤩
    Officially, this is considered stealing if you don't ask/do it without permission. But I'm bold enough to just do it.
    And I've fished out more than enough treasures 🥰
    I've been doing this since I was a little boy of about 6 years old, crafting with e-waste (but I don't think that term really existed back then) and in the roughly 30 years that I've been doing this, I already have a large network of stores. where I can look in the e-waste bins for materials.
    I think at least 80 percent of my electronics are e-waste, received or second hand. And also a lot with my brother and mother. And I also regularly help good friends with something when I have new acquisitions. Just like charities that help other people in need with household goods and related items.
    We are dying in e-waste and that mountain is getting bigger and bigger with equipment such as poor quality LED lamps and electronics that are difficult or impossible to repair.
    My experience is that with LED filement lamps such as in this video the driver is often defective. But the files still work like Clive in the video. I have a collection there that I want to use to make new lamps with other waste material such as waste wood.
    Or one or more of the files are defective. Then I carefully smash the glass into a sturdy plastic bag and remove the working fillets. Due to lack of time, they are still waiting for repurposing, but Big Clive has nice projects on his channel to reuse them.

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  10 місяців тому +4

      I do a bit of sneaky dumpster diving myself when I find a juicy one.

    • @spvillano
      @spvillano 10 місяців тому

      I do much the same myself, largely as a hobby. Repair trashed vacuum cleaners and fans, largely. A neighbor had recently tossed out a rather expensive tower fan unit, so I scooped it up. Some testing confirmed my suspicion of a blown thermal fuse, due to cat hair and dust clogging the motor and fan bearings.
      Alas, when I dismantled the motor, the windings crumbled, oxidized by overheating and yes, a blown thermal fuse.
      Scrapped it, retaining the bearings and controller board, which are potentially useful parts and fairly easily stored.
      Of course, the manufacturer used tamper resistant screws, otherwise people could lubricate their own motor and fan bearings, rather than buy a replacement every couple of years.
      My father and I had a spring routine, lubricating heater, fans and other motor bearings every spring, before we needed the air conditioner and just as we were beginning to need the fans. Did the vacuum cleaners as well, once I had begun rehabilitating old models.
      Repaired and cleaned up units made excellent holiday gifts too.

  • @dcallan812
    @dcallan812 10 місяців тому +5

    Dr Clive soft of fixed the bulb. 🤣 .I thought we might see a bad solder joint, but once open its difficult to see anything. 👀.
    Very interesting bulb. 2x👍

    • @NinoJoel
      @NinoJoel 10 місяців тому

      A Bad solder joint does not glow red hot

    • @spvillano
      @spvillano 10 місяців тому

      @@NinoJoel actually, I've saw some that did and while arcing, also spewed metal sparks from the evaporating solder.
      In one case, a Philco television with gate turn-off SCRs in the horizontal output circuit, causing a carbon trail to form before my eyes and before I could kill the power, arced at high voltage and current, literally causing a small blind spot in my retina.
      Managed to fix it, once I recovered from the UV burn, as it was a family member's TV, but the surgery on the board was rather extensive.
      Never ran into such a problem with Sony, who sensibly put the SG-613's off of the frigging board.
      Another prize winner, although a distant second, was an MOV vaporizing before my eyes at 2 feet distance. Blown fuse, all circuits that could blow the fuse checked out unshorted. Popped in a fuse, plugged in my cheater cord and the damned thing turned into a six inch ball of yellow-orange plasma. Didn't break over with my meter, but 120 volts vaporized it.
      The customer was a 90+ year old arthritic woman, who jumped from her chair and toward the door like an 18 year old.
      Obviously, I wasn't expecting that, otherwise I'd have asked her to leave the room. The only thing left of that MOV was the leads.
      Soldered in a replacement, checked for damage, which was none, due to its properly being placed inside of the chassis, popped in a new fuse and the unit worked perfectly.

    • @NinoJoel
      @NinoJoel 10 місяців тому

      @@spvillano it is lightbulb and has no high voltage or high current circuits that could arc any significant time.
      Glowing permanently red hot as a result of over current is not the same lol
      But interesting story nonetheless

    • @spvillano
      @spvillano 10 місяців тому

      @@NinoJoel ok, led is precisely the same as incandescent. Got ya.
      That you get wrong modern semiconductors and vacuum tubes is right, gotya.

    • @NinoJoel
      @NinoJoel 10 місяців тому

      @@spvillano that reply makes absolutely no sense.

  • @MrFujack103
    @MrFujack103 10 місяців тому

    Just the video I’ve been waiting for Clive! I’ve got the guts of one of these bulbs with the same fault lol

  • @Schlups
    @Schlups 10 місяців тому

    You could have a reference of how it's supposed to look inside - by the magic of stealing two of them :)

  • @Foobar_The_Fat_Penguin
    @Foobar_The_Fat_Penguin 10 місяців тому

    Lesson learned: If you have Big Clive in your pub, make him do a handstand before letting him leave. 😉

  • @lj6278
    @lj6278 6 місяців тому

    I really enjoy your videos. One word of caution hold the glass bulb in cloth or something to protect you from breaking glass. Cheers mate.

  • @Damien.D
    @Damien.D 10 місяців тому +4

    I have dozens of such 4W "filament" flame-style bulbs at home in our antique chandeliers and wall lamps, I buy them in bulk from China. When they fail, it's exactly like this, turns flickering or dimming, some has a dead LED that can be easily spotted when dimmed. I think their demise starts when a LED fails. Some works for years, on the whole lot I have in service, the failure rate is a few %s . I've always thought sending you some cadavers for the fun of the autopsy, but looks like you've found a nice test subject by yourself :P
    But mine are the cheapest one, not dimmable. Wonder what's inside for being made that cheap...

    • @spvillano
      @spvillano 10 місяців тому

      Likely, no controller chip, regulator and cap, just diode and dropping resistor.

  • @Milkybar3320011
    @Milkybar3320011 10 місяців тому

    A nice soothing voice to start a stressful Monday with x

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  10 місяців тому +1

      Hope your day isn't too stressful.

    • @Milkybar3320011
      @Milkybar3320011 10 місяців тому

      I must find the time to learn more about simple electronics, you make it look so easy, but I bet you’ve been doing this for most of your working life. You’d make a great teacher, assuming your not already 👍

  • @RODALCO2007
    @RODALCO2007 10 місяців тому

    Like opening a can of cornered beef. Amazing how much stuff they can cramp into a little E14 fitting. Capacitor survived very well next to that 2-Watt heater resistor.

  • @flussence
    @flussence 7 місяців тому

    Had one of these sitting on a shelf for ages, after it'd broken just like this one. Thought it was just typical dry solder joints but now I know! ...that the rest of them in the house will probably go the same way.

  • @jamesslick4790
    @jamesslick4790 10 місяців тому

    Only BIgclive would go to a pub and take....A dead LED bulb! I endorse this activity 100% 😜

  • @bazsuperbi
    @bazsuperbi 10 місяців тому

    Yeeheee! 😅
    Nobbled it from the pub.
    I think many people might perhaps done similar.
    Cheers Clive.
    Good days.

  • @paulbeddows6014
    @paulbeddows6014 10 місяців тому

    It was still intoxicated Clive good job you rescued it lol.

  • @NaoPb
    @NaoPb 10 місяців тому

    Neat. And good to see the filaments on their best behavior for the rest of the video hehe.

  • @scratchdog2216
    @scratchdog2216 10 місяців тому +2

    We use these in common hallways and some brands are just trash. Find a few flicker dim and black crumbs inside now and again. High quality and full swap in the chandeliers.

    • @spvillano
      @spvillano 10 місяців тому

      Or super cheap and who cares when they fail?
      Always a balancing act, based upon expended man-hours in the end.

  • @acmefixer1
    @acmefixer1 10 місяців тому +5

    Bulb made by BEL?
    Bharat Electronics, Limited in India.
    With incandescent lights you can pretty much see what's defective. No such luck anymore with LED lights.
    I thought places of questionable repute used red lights, not blue. Our fire dept's engine house has a red light. I wonder if that means anything? 😮
    Thanks, Clive for making my day. I just don't feel right until I take something apart, either really or virtually on Clive's UA-cam channel. 😍

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  10 місяців тому +4

      Bell Lighting.

    • @RT-qd8yl
      @RT-qd8yl 10 місяців тому +6

      They use blue lights to make it more difficult to find one's veins for injections. A red light at the fire station is generally tied into the paging system to indicate a current active call, much like a whistle/siren. It can also sometimes be used to indicate a fault or alarm condition in their alarm system or some other type of mechanical system.

    • @andygozzo72
      @andygozzo72 10 місяців тому

      @@bigclivedotcom wonder if its the same company as was British Electric Lamps Limited aka B.E.L.L. ?

    • @spvillano
      @spvillano 10 місяців тому

      @@RT-qd8yl really? I always palpated for a vein.
      But then, I was a medic. If I couldn't find a vein in the dark, the poor sod was dead. Especially, given I was never shy at starting an external jugular and once, a penile line. In all cases, with the victim and his buddies armed with machine guns.
      Got my electronics certification in '79, medical in the late '80's in SF medicine, IT cert in '90's and got certified REF in '10 (Retired, Extremely Flatulent).
      Oh, chemical, biological and nuclear in '82. Explosives in '85.
      In my spare time, I part oceans with a toothpick, alas, I've little spare time. :P

  • @ginx2666
    @ginx2666 10 місяців тому +1

    "Today on BBC News - Isle of Man's Man's Man Steals A Dead Lightbulb, THOUSANDS affected!"

  • @jeffdayman8183
    @jeffdayman8183 10 місяців тому +1

    Stolen - The lamp that was hot even before you turned it on!

  • @BedsitBob
    @BedsitBob 10 місяців тому +2

    "There's a capacitor" he says, then sticks his finger in the end of the lamp, without checking that it's discharged. 😊

    • @kaboom4679
      @kaboom4679 10 місяців тому

      Never disregard a cheap thrill .

  • @dimitar4y
    @dimitar4y 10 місяців тому

    The big bear with a cink palculator has snaffled a bulb.

  • @kyoudaiken
    @kyoudaiken 10 місяців тому +14

    I think in this failure mode it just turned into a very noisy resistor that sometimes decides to emit light.

    • @Jay-ik1pt
      @Jay-ik1pt 10 місяців тому +5

      Any resistor will emit light if you use it wrong enough...

    • @spvillano
      @spvillano 10 місяців тому +2

      Well, either a glowbar resistor or a smoke emitting diode.

    • @kyoudaiken
      @kyoudaiken 10 місяців тому

      @@spvillano Well the whole thing was charred inside, it was just being hundreds of resistors everywhere.

    • @spvillano
      @spvillano 10 місяців тому

      @@kyoudaiken hundreds, seriously?
      O could get drunk and not manage that manglement!

    • @kyoudaiken
      @kyoudaiken 10 місяців тому +2

      @@spvillano I'm not drunk. Charcoal is conductive. So all that conductive material creates resistors that aren't in the schematics.

  • @johnjones4825
    @johnjones4825 10 місяців тому

    I, too, went out for Sunday lunch with my daughter today, and am also stammering and slurring a little! Sunday lunch today, Clive?

  • @frogz
    @frogz 10 місяців тому +5

    it isnt stolen, it is being recycled for educational purposes

    • @spvillano
      @spvillano 10 місяців тому

      It's not stealing, it's the dynamic re-allotment of resources.
      I was the NCOIC of our brigade combat team's E-4 mafia, it was a subspecialty. ;)

  • @larrylaffer3246
    @larrylaffer3246 10 місяців тому

    Bravo on you for not setting this up as a "Prank Video" where you stole all the 💡 from the business; Then took them apart as part of your normal content as way to get the views of both types of content.

  • @KeepEvery1Guessing
    @KeepEvery1Guessing 10 місяців тому +1

    I wonder how dimming level effects power consumption. Partly over all consumption (i.e.; does dimming save you on your electric bill), but also is there a particular dimming level that maximizes heat inside the base, increasing the chance of scortching.

  • @Uncle-Duncan-Shack
    @Uncle-Duncan-Shack 10 місяців тому +1

    That black stuff is called assembly gunge, found in all defunct electronics.

  • @TheSpotify95
    @TheSpotify95 10 місяців тому +6

    Nice interesting lamp autopsy, and given the state of the electronics (and how hot the lamp was getting), you may well have done that pub a favor!
    I'd have personally gone back home afterwards, grabbed the least interesting drop in replacement (whether it be LED, CFL, tungsten, halogen, etc) then returned to the pub and given them the replacement to fit. That way, they can see you're helping them out rather than giving them cause for concern.

    • @ianhosier4042
      @ianhosier4042 10 місяців тому +5

      I would have gone back and gave them a colour changing bulb

    • @TheSpotify95
      @TheSpotify95 10 місяців тому +1

      @@ianhosier4042 if it was my own home, then yeah. But for a pub that you're replacing the bulb in... nah, too expensive. Just get the cheapest possible bulb, of any type, and call it a day!

    • @spvillano
      @spvillano 10 місяців тому +2

      @@ianhosier4042 color changing smartbulb. That way one can change colors with one's phone, making everyone wonder if they're losing their mind.

    • @TheSpotify95
      @TheSpotify95 9 місяців тому

      @@spvillano Would be nice for your own personal use. I have some Philips Hue lights (mostly strip lights) and they're pretty neat.

    • @spvillano
      @spvillano 9 місяців тому

      @@TheSpotify95 my first thing is, ensure everything I don't want on the internet get denied DNS and gateway.
      Serious things, they get a devoted vlan at a minimum.

  • @TechGorilla1987
    @TechGorilla1987 10 місяців тому +1

    @0:18 - Light it like you stole it - Big Clive

  • @Funkylogic
    @Funkylogic 10 місяців тому +4

    The minute I see that brown acrylic staking compound I start to worry. It's a notorious failure mode in a lot of gear. They use it because it's cheap but it's hygroscopic over time and it starts to leak and can start fires. Cost a number of TV manufacturers millions in rework around G2 stages and I've seen a number of hockey Puck down light supplies die from it. Just recently did a couple of CRO supplies with the issue, one was an Insteak the other surprise was a Tek, but they had a 3rd party supply fitted.

    • @spvillano
      @spvillano 10 місяців тому +2

      The obvious solution is, if such a potted circuit is found, immerse it into a large container of water, such as the Atlantic or Pacific ocean.
      Hopefully, alongside whatever village idiot chose a hygroscopic compound for potting.

    • @Funkylogic
      @Funkylogic 10 місяців тому +1

      @@spvillano You nailed it Bro. It's called HAST. But almost nobody does it thoroughly. Acrylic staking which is cheap compared to RTV or MOXI. Modern replacement for PCBA sealant because no Xylene better for health apparently perhaps maybe?.
      So now forcing APL or Acrylic polymer many places this lacquer suffers the same issue, that if it is not set at 80C for 4-8 HRS depending on how many um layer then it suffers reversion (hygyroscopic induction of water and becomes as conductive as the day it was born).
      When it is set it turns into a Gordian Knot that water struggles to penetrate, when it's done poorly it becomes a long term failure mode that can crop up at any moment, that is currently plaguing all PCBA manufactures.

    • @arthurmoore9488
      @arthurmoore9488 10 місяців тому

      @@Funkylogic So, the problem isn't just the compound itself. It's that manufacturers are cheeping out and not following the directions. This is why we can't have nice things.

    • @spvillano
      @spvillano 10 місяців тому

      @@Funkylogic the bear of it is, if they wanted cheap, they could've even went with bakelite. :/

  • @Slikx666
    @Slikx666 10 місяців тому +1

    Potentially you also stopped a fire from happening. Good job you did borrow the bulb. 🥴👍

  • @kaboom4679
    @kaboom4679 10 місяців тому +8

    I have a full string of these type led bulbs , courtesy of a lightning strike , because I am curious if any survived the little bit of an over voltage event .
    Be interesting to play around with anyway .
    I am amazed at how many components they managed to stuff in that tiny lamp base there .

    • @NaoPb
      @NaoPb 10 місяців тому +2

      I agree with how impressive the amount of components in that tiny base is. It seems we are living in exciting times when it comes to lighting technology.

  • @curtishoffmann6956
    @curtishoffmann6956 10 місяців тому

    Putting LEDs inside socketed bulbs like this is like insisting that cars have buggy whip holders to maintain the livelihoods of whip manufacturers...

  • @Motoralbi
    @Motoralbi 10 місяців тому +2

    Some time ago i dismantled a very similar led lamp which had an identical flickery behaviour; the circuitry looked very similar to yours, and the LED strips also exhibited occasional flickering. While handling them (after breaking the glass globe), one of the four snapped very easily, so my guess is that maybe the glass(?) substrate cracks, therefore the LEDs occasionally stop working.

    • @Ragnar8504
      @Ragnar8504 10 місяців тому +1

      Yeah, mechanically intermittent contact seems fairly likely, considering the lamp decided to work as Clive tilted it.

  • @pizzablender
    @pizzablender 10 місяців тому

    The original background, good to see that again rather than the black.

  • @youdontknowme5969
    @youdontknowme5969 10 місяців тому

    The way it was randomly working, then not, then randomly flickering---it was ready for Halloween 🎃

  • @bradmeekakasilvertopflyer
    @bradmeekakasilvertopflyer 10 місяців тому

    I have been in the restaurant industry for 30 years and I have seen so many people "nicking" bits and pieces from many of the places I have worked, I never say anything, I feel as if they wanted a momento

  • @TheToastPeople
    @TheToastPeople 10 місяців тому +2

    Lol dont worry i too have stolen a few EOL lamps 😅

  • @henninghoefer
    @henninghoefer 10 місяців тому +2

    Please make lamp-fairy videos… 😂

  • @belperite
    @belperite 10 місяців тому +1

    Had about 4 of these fail in a luminaire (but Morrisons were pretty good about replacing the early life failures). The other two are still going strong after 4 years though, wonder why?

  • @devtrash
    @devtrash 10 місяців тому

    "f a bar of ill repute." Oh Clive

  • @jendak7921
    @jendak7921 10 місяців тому

    At my work we have LED wall clock that stop working. They find faulty 1A power adapter with USB-A socket and order new one. But it take month until they order and new arrived and faulty one was still laying around clock untouched so I bring it home for check. It show 5V voltage but switching on and off quickly. Visibly two bad capacitor on low side I change them with same capacity but little higher voltage because dont have same. I test it on full load for few hour and no explosion. I'm not sure it's save to use with smartphone, expensive equipment or loved electronics or without supervision on it but happy for repair it and keep it like better alternative then cheap chinese charger that came with something.

  • @u.e.u.e.
    @u.e.u.e. 10 місяців тому

    All the electronics in the base, zero electronics in the glass cone/drop/bulb.
    That makes this lamp appealing and looking like an incandescent lamp. 😉

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  10 місяців тому

      I quite like the electronics in the glass section. Like a little museum exhibit.

    • @u.e.u.e.
      @u.e.u.e. 10 місяців тому

      @@bigclivedotcom Sure, but not in a classical lamp/chandelier. 😉

  • @CoffeeFurret
    @CoffeeFurret 10 місяців тому

    "The light is coming back."
    No Clive, I don't think it is...

  • @bobs12andahalf2
    @bobs12andahalf2 10 місяців тому

    There was a young man named Clive
    Who stole a dead bulb from a dive
    He pulled it apart
    Then jumped with a start
    "Good grief", he said, "It's alive!"

  • @Erik_Swiger
    @Erik_Swiger 10 місяців тому

    You mentioned a tin of sardines, and now I'm wondering if you can carbonate a tin of sardines.

  • @Tezz42
    @Tezz42 10 місяців тому +6

    You've made my day I've always wanted to know how get inside a light bulb without breaking the glass now I know as I wanted make a quirky torch using a light bulb glass 👍

    • @foogod4237
      @foogod4237 10 місяців тому +2

      Note that this won't work with incandescent bulbs, because their glass is sealed. LED bulbs usually don't have sealed bulbs (because they don't need to keep air out to function). LED bulbs also usually use plastic instead of glass for the bulb (which also makes them safer to try to disassemble)..
      There's also lots of variation from one manufacturer to another regarding how these things are constructed and how easy it is to get into them, so depending on which bulbs you have you may not find it to be this easy...

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  10 місяців тому +1

      Keep in mind that the standard LED bulbs are usually quite high voltage arrays. But you do get 3V versions.

    • @spvillano
      @spvillano 10 місяців тому +1

      @@bigclivedotcom what voltage are they typically that you've found? I largely see 90 volt arrays here in the US.

  • @richardbriansmith8562
    @richardbriansmith8562 10 місяців тому

    Awesome Video big clive

  • @tenminutetokyo2643
    @tenminutetokyo2643 10 місяців тому

    Dood that is nuts!

  • @ltdees2362
    @ltdees2362 10 місяців тому

    .. I'm taken aback, all that was in the "goo" and base 😛

  • @laughingoreilly1334
    @laughingoreilly1334 10 місяців тому

    Didn't think I would ever see a led lamp with a brass base

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  10 місяців тому +1

      I think it was discoloured steel.

  • @Derek_Garnham
    @Derek_Garnham 10 місяців тому

    I love the peeling

  • @wisher21uk
    @wisher21uk 10 місяців тому

    Brilliant thanks Clive quite interesting how it suddenly started working, maybe the burnt glue was going conducive?

    • @spvillano
      @spvillano 10 місяців тому

      The driver circuit failed, he jumpered in a driver board to supply the lamp and get the flickering bulb to light up.
      Which may well have been the root cause for the failure in the first place. Load popping off and on randomly can kill already close to rating components.
      Especially, as Clive mentioned, that electrolytic that's inside of the lamp base. Surprised me, I thought my eyes were playing tricks on me at first.

  • @juanignaciocaino
    @juanignaciocaino 10 місяців тому

    Didn't know that Stewie grew up to be into electricity

  • @andymouse
    @andymouse 10 місяців тому

    BAKED..Technical TV terminology....cheers.

  • @gordonirving24
    @gordonirving24 10 місяців тому +1

    Did my own tear of a G9 pagazzi 3.5w led 240v. Bridge rectifier, 2 resistors , 1 capacitor? And an unknown chip. Couldn't find chip details. No great signings of overheating but lamp still blown.

  • @mister_milkman
    @mister_milkman 10 місяців тому

    I have one of those faulty lamps. Perfect for a Halloween lantern

  • @pabloestafez6830
    @pabloestafez6830 10 місяців тому

    Nobody fast forwards through your sardine tin routines....you know we're all sitting here on the edge of our seats waiting for the slip nd gush😅😂

    • @bigclivedotcom
      @bigclivedotcom  10 місяців тому

      Fortunately that's fairly rare.

    • @pabloestafez6830
      @pabloestafez6830 10 місяців тому

      @@bigclivedotcom the way this world is going that'll be the next trend🤦🙆🤷🤣

  • @mariuspetcu7482
    @mariuspetcu7482 10 місяців тому

    Thank You again for enlightening us too ...😂... P.S. the Comments down below made my day mate .... Thank You again 🤝

  • @UQRXD
    @UQRXD 10 місяців тому

    Just like old Christmas lights, one goes out so does the whole string. My understanding is the LED's are over driven thus pulsed. Way back when I remember indicator LED's just got 12 volts DC.

  • @dr_jaymz
    @dr_jaymz 10 місяців тому

    I wondered why pubs are always so dark. Its Clive nicking all the LED bulbs.

  • @tscook10
    @tscook10 10 місяців тому +1

    Could you do a video on how these dimmable bulbs actually dim on a triac dimmer? I would have assumed that the current regulator and sensing resistors would essentially maintain consistent light all the way until the waveform became too scarce to provide adequate voltage, then you get flicker. This seems to be how non-dimming lamps react to a triac. I've read that expensive LED drivers are measuring the phase of the triac dimmer and translating that into a pwm duty cycle, but surely this cheap bulb in this video is not doing that. So what's it doing?