I like the idea of the Cybertruck Powershare, however I think an Anker F3800 and the Home Power Panel (HPP) is a better option --especially if you need sub 1 second failover response. With the Cybertruck Powershare, there is like a 3 second cutover after a power failure. With the Anker F3800 and HPP, failover is 20 msec. The capacity of the Cybertruck is greate but for $2,500 (Tesla Gateway) + $500 (Gen 3 wall charger) the money would be better put to an F3800 and HPP--or unless it is included for "free" with Foundation series. At best the Tesla Powershare is a "standby" power backup while the F3800 is a true home UPS. I was going to go the Powershare route but the F3800 just makes more sense for me. The 48v out from the Cybertruck, can be use to feed the F3800. The F3800 can handle up to 2400 watt (1200 per port) DC input, but the Cybertruck will only output 400W.
Saw the drama you posted on X being a CT Mom and followed there and here - thanks for this video it made sense; I’m curious of the PowerShare cost and other electrical work needed but will look up one and scan comments for other. Thanks!
They’re likely checking the customers panel service rating and for NEC 705.12(B)(3)(2), so ideally a 225A/200A panel allowing up to 70A backfeed. NEC 705.12(B)(3)(3) Sum rule would be applicable too
Please update us with how long the battery lasts for your home after a few cycles. Also specs such as how much energy your home uses would be important to know. Lastly consider creating an X account! :)
I understand the universal charger and the gateway comes with foundation series also $2500 to purchase equipments, what other equipments do you need for the installation which can be purchased with Tesla credits also how much does it cost to you, I see you haven’t replied to previous comments on the cost but if you can give us a ballpark estimate that would be nice.
Since the NACS cable has two power pins, how do you get split phase power? (240v and 120v) Does the gateway have an autotransformer to provide neutral? Is neutral still 0v to ground?
Great video! Waiting for the email to get mine setup soon also. I still haven’t understood why the universal wall connector is needed instead of the regular wall connector you have… but seeing you have both furthers my confusion lol. They seem the same except for the additional attachable adapter on the end, but there must be some other difference?
All of these videos on the CT and not one person has ever mentioned how hot the wireless charging pads get. They get so hot, that your phone stops charging until it returns to a lower temperature, so I have ti take my phone off the charging pad for a few minutes then put it back on.
@@eEvangeliste Right!!! Its not just you.. Ive have my CT for almost a month... I did see where they sell a rubber pad (on Amazon) that you can put on the CT charing pad that is suppose to help with the overheating issue
I would have just used the 240V outlet from the truck to manually feed it back to my house, turn off the main breaker and ones that take more power such as the dryer and voila. I’m very cheap but it’s a very nice setup.
you can't, you'd have no Neutral without the NFT (Neutral Forming Transformer), that is part of the Gateway, which also does the isolation from the grid
Any idea when DC power share (v2h) coming out for normal Teslas so we can expand powerwall with our vehicles? AC works cause they designed the CT to invert the dc on the vehicle. But as far as I know normal Teslas don't have that capability. I really hope when they do have V2h they make it backwards capable with older vehicles. DC V2h with a Powerwall should be easy. DC is so much easier than AC.
I'm a little puzzled how the Universal Wall Connector can back feed to a house. There are only two hots and a ground terminal in the wall connector wiring box, so how does 120V split-phase get created? It's 240V across the two hots. For the charging function, the ground wire would typically not be required to have the same ampacity as the hot leads (like 6 AWG for 60A hots, and 10AWG for ground), and using ground as a backfeed neutral sounds like it would fail electrical permit inspection. It seems like there would need to be something like an autotransformer to convert 240V to split-phase 240/120.
The Gateway has an NFT built into it (Neutral Forming Transformer), this is the same way that Enphase does it, with their IQ System Controller 3 and IQ Battery 5P's, FYI, the NFT's are usually on 40A breakers.. Most houses are fairly well balanced on the 120V circuits, so a 40A differential is very unlikely,and of course 240V circuits are always balanced. remember, the house is disconnected from the grid by an isolation switch, so the neutral is formed the same way it is in the utility transformer...
If the Cybertruck was sleeping (contactors open), I believe it would take a few seconds to switch over. The F-150 Lighting exports DC thus requires an external inverter the Cybertruck sends 240AC back to the home (inverter is on the PCS board of the Cybertruck). Using an external inverter could allow for more or less power to be exported.
I watched the video multiple times - you should too; it was about 1 sec; to be instantaneous the truck battery would have to be getting a feed directly from grid and the house would be powered by the truck constantly (like a data center) so when grid goes away there is no interruption…but this isn’t a data center, its a house; which is why a Tesla Power Wall makes so much sense (not in this video)
Not my experience at all. You say local electrician and used Trout. I received an email today from Tesla that can not be responded to stating I get A $2500 Voucher as Treehouse cancelled my install although they didn't have equipment available to install with my existing solar and panels. Right now, Not happy
Disappointed the power took that long to come back. Many cheaper solutions are like a full UPS for your critical loads/backed up circuits…no outage at all with no disruptions to computers or electronics or clock resets!
Great video, Dani! You’re so knowledgeable when it comes to all of the electric stuff. Super impressed by how seamless the outage protection was.
Thank you Arsen that means SO MUCH coming from you!!!! :) Yes it was pretty impressive.
Electrified sent me here too! Thanks for the review. It’s helpful to share with family on the fence about this vehicle.
Yay!!! Welcome 😊😊
@@techiedani youtube.com/@dillonloomis22?si=FxxZLK7CupeuvWLv
Cool. I need a Tesla to hurry up and lunch a HVAC system for a fully Tesla powered home! 😍
Nice. Waiting for the software update for those of us that already have Tesla gateways/solar/UWC.
Wow thanks for the attention to detail! Really appreciate your insightful video
Thank you so much!!!
I like the idea of the Cybertruck Powershare, however I think an Anker F3800 and the Home Power Panel (HPP) is a better option --especially if you need sub 1 second failover response.
With the Cybertruck Powershare, there is like a 3 second cutover after a power failure. With the Anker F3800 and HPP, failover is 20 msec. The capacity of the Cybertruck is greate but for $2,500 (Tesla Gateway) + $500 (Gen 3 wall charger) the money would be better put to an F3800 and HPP--or unless it is included for "free" with Foundation series.
At best the Tesla Powershare is a "standby" power backup while the F3800 is a true home UPS. I was going to go the Powershare route but the F3800 just makes more sense for me.
The 48v out from the Cybertruck, can be use to feed the F3800. The F3800 can handle up to 2400 watt (1200 per port) DC input, but the Cybertruck will only output 400W.
How much was the install? Hardware is included but what was the labor/fees/permits etc.
Around $3-$4k on average
Ty Dani. fixing to have mine installed.
Saw the drama you posted on X being a CT Mom and followed there and here - thanks for this video it made sense; I’m curious of the PowerShare cost and other electrical work needed but will look up one and scan comments for other. Thanks!
I hope this rolls out to other teslas in the future.
Electrified sent me.
hi !!!!
They’re likely checking the customers panel service rating and for NEC 705.12(B)(3)(2), so ideally a 225A/200A panel allowing up to 70A backfeed. NEC 705.12(B)(3)(3) Sum rule would be applicable too
Please update us with how long the battery lasts for your home after a few cycles. Also specs such as how much energy your home uses would be important to know. Lastly consider creating an X account! :)
This is math man, you can guess what they power (1400W is not little so it is probably not continues ) and you know how big batteryis
I'm on X as techiedani!
Nice. But ties the vehicle to the house. Still a great option. I wonder if the next Tesla, not a Cybertruck, I get will have this option.
I predict that bi-directional V2H will be the next "hot" item for solar and EVs. Hope so.
I understand the universal charger and the gateway comes with foundation series also $2500 to purchase equipments, what other equipments do you need for the installation which can be purchased with Tesla credits also how much does it cost to you, I see you haven’t replied to previous comments on the cost but if you can give us a ballpark estimate that would be nice.
Nice! Just got the email for the powershare voucher. Perhaps you will draw less power in the night, so the estimate may go greater than a day.
Yes definitely would think so
With the truck being like nine power walls I would think it would power your house for more than a day aat leat 3 ?
Since the NACS cable has two power pins, how do you get split phase power? (240v and 120v) Does the gateway have an autotransformer to provide neutral? Is neutral still 0v to ground?
The Gateway has an NFT in it (Neutral Forming Transformer)
Great video! Waiting for the email to get mine setup soon also. I still haven’t understood why the universal wall connector is needed instead of the regular wall connector you have… but seeing you have both furthers my confusion lol. They seem the same except for the additional attachable adapter on the end, but there must be some other difference?
All of these videos on the CT and not one person has ever mentioned how hot the wireless charging pads get. They get so hot, that your phone stops charging until it returns to a lower temperature, so I have ti take my phone off the charging pad for a few minutes then put it back on.
THANK YOU 🙏🏾
I was wondering if my 7days old truck got an issue
@@eEvangeliste Right!!! Its not just you.. Ive have my CT for almost a month... I did see where they sell a rubber pad (on Amazon) that you can put on the CT charing pad that is suppose to help with the overheating issue
I haven't had that issue on our X or 3. Is it unique to the CT?
It may be a CT issue.
I would have just used the 240V outlet from the truck to manually feed it back to my house, turn off the main breaker and ones that take more power such as the dryer and voila. I’m very cheap but it’s a very nice setup.
you can't, you'd have no Neutral without the NFT (Neutral Forming Transformer), that is part of the Gateway, which also does the isolation from the grid
How much is the PowerShare system?
2500$ but if you buy the cyberbeast you get a 2500 store credit and a 4000$ installation credit. banging deal
Very cool!
thank you!!
Any idea when DC power share (v2h) coming out for normal Teslas so we can expand powerwall with our vehicles? AC works cause they designed the CT to invert the dc on the vehicle. But as far as I know normal Teslas don't have that capability. I really hope when they do have V2h they make it backwards capable with older vehicles. DC V2h with a Powerwall should be easy. DC is so much easier than AC.
Dani I live in 909 area also how much is the PowerShare installation cost range?
PowerShare will push Tesla finally forward again but the other models need it too as well as a front bumper camera (:
If you had a powerwall, would an outage draw from the powerwall before drawing from the CT?
Good question. We have 2 Powerwalls and solar and I wanted to know the same thing.
Can they integrate with a Span smart panel vs relocating some stuff down stream of the truck?
When the power comes back on will the box switch back automatically?
(Sorry if I missed it...)
Keep it up your vlog 🤗🙏
Thank you more vids coming out!!!
I'm a little puzzled how the Universal Wall Connector can back feed to a house. There are only two hots and a ground terminal in the wall connector wiring box, so how does 120V split-phase get created? It's 240V across the two hots. For the charging function, the ground wire would typically not be required to have the same ampacity as the hot leads (like 6 AWG for 60A hots, and 10AWG for ground), and using ground as a backfeed neutral sounds like it would fail electrical permit inspection. It seems like there would need to be something like an autotransformer to convert 240V to split-phase 240/120.
The Gateway has an NFT built into it (Neutral Forming Transformer), this is the same way that Enphase does it, with their IQ System Controller 3 and IQ Battery 5P's, FYI, the NFT's are usually on 40A breakers.. Most houses are fairly well balanced on the 120V circuits, so a 40A differential is very unlikely,and of course 240V circuits are always balanced. remember, the house is disconnected from the grid by an isolation switch, so the neutral is formed the same way it is in the utility transformer...
So you actually did backup your whole panel? That is what I plan to do.
Did you have to have Tesla feature flag your vehicle to get powershare to even work?
Can it power a home central AC unit? What LRA can it support? My 3-ton AC has an LRA of 83.
110LRA Max the cyber truck can do . The Tesla Powerwall 3 can do 185LRA.
Nice lovely vid❤🎉
thank you so much !!
If you dont mind sharing How much does this project cost you total?
Tesla fan girl will never disclose that.
Nice video....... Please get a clip on Mic
I was surprised it wasn't instantaneous - Pretty sure the F-150 Lightning is
Wasn't!? It pretty much was, it was less than 3 seconds...
If the Cybertruck was sleeping (contactors open), I believe it would take a few seconds to switch over. The F-150 Lighting exports DC thus requires an external inverter the Cybertruck sends 240AC back to the home (inverter is on the PCS board of the Cybertruck). Using an external inverter could allow for more or less power to be exported.
@@ronolsberg1468 That sounds about right! $2k in hardware vs. $5k plus a whole lot of other weirdness like Bluetooth might just be worth the delay.
I watched the video multiple times - you should too; it was about 1 sec; to be instantaneous the truck battery would have to be getting a feed directly from grid and the house would be powered by the truck constantly (like a data center) so when grid goes away there is no interruption…but this isn’t a data center, its a house; which is why a Tesla Power Wall makes so much sense (not in this video)
Not my experience at all. You say local electrician and used Trout. I received an email today from Tesla that can not be responded to stating I get A $2500 Voucher as Treehouse cancelled my install although they didn't have equipment available to install with my existing solar and panels. Right now, Not happy
Disappointed the power took that long to come back. Many cheaper solutions are like a full UPS for your critical loads/backed up circuits…no outage at all with no disruptions to computers or electronics or clock resets!
not going to make a difference for instant, 1 sec, 3 sec....
I didn’t know Trump Jr was an electrician.
Well, bye bye battery warranty. Tesla is really good in this game.
How so?
I don’t understand what you mean…?
There’s a S in Tesla 😉
Elon says TeZla so I say TeZla ;)
The cyber truck is the ugliest vehicle and is just another electric truck. This is no different than a ford
It’s subjective but the technology is far superior