Appalachian Mountain Music Documentary
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- Here is a short documentary of Appalachian mountain music! Stay tuned for more updates for roc-tv next semester!
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Videographer: Glenn Hall
Editor: Glenn Hall
A big thank you to Geoff White, Josh Lawhorn and Sugar Run for the interviews and music!
I grew up in the Blueridge mountains of North Carolina and use to set by the fire place and listen as my uncles and aunts picked and sang ballads and songs. God what wonderful days those were. Such days as those are gone forever but the music they loved so much still is being played to this day. HOW WONDERFUL ITS IS TO REMINISCE. I CAN CLOSE MY EYES AND STILL HEAR THEM PICKING AND SEE MY AUNTS CLOGGING.
“Songcatcher” is an excellent docu-drama about our Appalachian music.
I LOVE THAT FILM.
One of my favorite movies, I came across it by accident, but I've watched it at least 10 times
Im an Irishman i love themusic and culture of Appalachia i can really here a lot or Irish influence in the music the ballad singing is like Sean Ós singing the boot dancing very similar.
I hope to be over this year ro try up skill my Banjo playing
I remember as a kid at my grandparents house along in the evening a couple of their friends would stop by and bring their instruments and play while my grandma would rock in her chair and sing some and grandpa would whittle
My grandmother on my mother's side grew up in Floyd Co. Virginia in late 1880s. She was a stout woman, grizzled from the work they had to do to survive.
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Appalachian music is real music! Love old time string bands, good musicianship, and real soul.
It soothes my soul!
All music is real music, we only have gotten away from the real music when we started adding computer sound effects
@@aforerunner1773 although even that IS music. The problem is recording companies. They decide what we like. Until we look around for ourselves.
I grew up in little Birch WVA. On the Birch river bluegrass and gospel were just a part of life.
I'm an Irishman just been getting in to this sound lately, I'm getting the different types of sound, great stuff wicked music fantastic love the high tempo 👍👍👍😎
@Gar Goil He'd be right.
He'd be wrong
@ his name's hetrodoxley , i'm sure he'll turn up eventually LOL
@ sure does LOL
WATCH THIS VIDEO! I just uploaded a UA-cam video which compares rare traditional recordings Appalachian traditional music with ancient British ballads. Here it is:
ua-cam.com/video/mUGoWwGKwSA/v-deo.html
Feel free to explore my channel for more content about traditional music!
I stumbled across this and realized it was Jeff and his fiddle. I have the album. Jeff and I used to play together at Montpelier, VA when we old Confederates got together with some great Yankees and had a weekend of history. Jeff on fiddle and me on old-time banjo, we would play for hours. He knew a lot of songs and I knew most of them. I used to play Bluegrass, but got old and my right hand lost most of the Bluegrass speed.
Are you familiar with an area group called Confederate Grass? They played in our restaurant in the late 1980s and again in the late 1990s. They were older guys at the time, so most are likely now gone. Very Very old fashioned & genuine Bluegrass music.
Bluegrass is just Oldtime played too fast!
@@joshuagoodman3854 I love both, I always thought old time placed more emphasis on the song, bluegrass on the "chops".
@@mtc4him201 Never thought of it that way, but eyup, I think you are right!
@@mtc4him201 Scaggs three figure picking is a magic ingredient!
I would say England, Scotland (including the Scots-Irish) and Germany have contributed the majority of what we call Appalachian (my native region....east Tennessee) or old-time music. I have studied, and played, the music for years. Many of the fiddle tunes probably have Scots-Irish roots. Many of the ballads I have heard mountain people talk about or sing were English or Scottish. Most southern mountain folk were steeped in the music of the Baptist and Methodist churches which had as their core hymns from English and Scottish and German hymnwriters. Most of old time, bluegrass and country music had its roots in the south and in southern Appalachia, not in northern Appalachia. When Cecil Sharp traveled the southern mountains he found a treasure trove of English and Scottish ballads but there is also a waltz tradition (German) which is why most fiddle contests will require a hoedown and a waltz. But the music of Appalachia was reflective of southern music in general. It simply hung on in the mountains longer due to isolation. My maternal grandmother, who lived in Piedmont North Carolina, used to sing the old English folk ballad "Lord Thomas" and the southern ballad "Naomi Wise" as well as other ballads like the "Fatal Wedding" and so on.
fiddle reel music and strathpey music both scottish in origin. many of these ulster scots would still have been full scots having lived in ireland for a few years then going to the americas
@@brucecollins4729 Hey Bruce, thanks for your reply. The fiddle music history is not an area that I am competent in so I am glad you have weighed in on that. I would love to know more about our fiddle tradition. I understand the Scottish tradition is very strong in southern music.
@@andrewskipper it is very strong as the scots have been in the carolinas etc since the 1500s. although largely forgotten due to assimilation withe other groups. even in time native americans i.e their descendents chief macintosh and chief ross.(you can look them up). many scots fiddle tunes there. miss mcleods reel/ high hop ladies. riding the raid/bonnie dundee, mist covered mountains of home/mist covered mountain. many more. although there would also be english and maybe welsh ballads.
@@johnedington6083 i,m talking about the scots who went to ulster, the ones who lived there for a few years or even months then leaving for amerikay. not forgetting the earlier scots who went direct from scotland.fiddle reel music and strathpeys are indigenous to scotland. the english and welsh would have their input too.hornpipes,jigs english and maybe welsh clogging.you will have to do your own research into the english music/dance in amerikay
I cant remember but years ago someone put an album out titled Appalachian folks its a agreat album of really old time music
My ancestors are early appalachian settlers that built banjos and dulcimers. They played old folk songs and wrote plenty also. They have songs stored at the Smithsonian. However we are NOT Irish. Our first ancestors came into York virginia in 1716 after fighting as a rebel in the battle of Preston in 1715 the last battle on English soil🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴🏴
Frank Proffitts music is amazing he did his best to keep the old songs going
Love this history. We try to tell it too!
I’m a guy from the British isles & now living in the American South.
I’d be lying if I said the music was part of why the South, but I consider it a huge bonus.
Thanks.
Home to me is the Shenandoah valley, there’s no more beautiful place on earth than Appalachia.
Spoken like someone who hasn’t traveled much.
I’ve traveled to dozens of states and a handful of countries, Shenandoah takes my breath. My family has a cabin on the New River. I live in the mountains
William Wilson exactly opposite, I have been to other countries and across this one. I have seen many beautiful places. Ones opinion is just that, they are as individual as the person. Mine is spot on to me, yours might be different but that doesn’t make it right.
RJ LZ well obviously, I’m not saying that my opinion is fact guy. I just spend a lot of time exploring/hiking and there are some special places that are sentimental. Every place is different with its own character; not better or worst
You're selling the Scots short. Their music had a tremendous influence on Appalachian music, and on Irish music as well.
William of Orange solved his Scots reivers problem by sending lots of Scots from the borderlands to Ulster. Thats why the Northern Irish wear orange on St. Patrick's day. Being a contebtious lot then as now, they were similarly banished to the hills of the North American Colonies and have been proud to be called HillBillies... HillWilliams being a bit hoitsy! Appalachian music is an accumulation of Scots , Irish, African, and other local music.
scots had a tremendous influence on irish music LOL think you've got things the wrong way round LOL
Joshua Goodman This is fascinating! Please elaborate further. From a proud son of SWVA.
@@replyhere590 I found a bunch of information a few years ago... can't remember all. In Apalachia there is a term that parents use to scare their children. Instead of "the boogyman" they say "Bloody (I forget the name) is gonna get you." This is a linguistic footprint as there was a real historic person back in Scotland who was a particularly bad guy... the Scottish reivers was the beginning of the whole thing. Border raiders. But, like bad. Real bad. This link has a bit of information: www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofScotland/The-Border-Reivers/
There is a lot more. Note James I was the one who they named the Bible after. In Scotland he was James IV. FWIW.
Just remembered and found this: Bluidy Clavers, but in the US it might be more like Bloody Gavers.
BTW Monroe, as in Bill, is a Scottish name. So you can say that Bluegrass has deep roots in Scotland. By way of Ulster (Northern Ireland)
I was born in Kingsport, Tennessee and grew up on Blue grass music. My dad was born in Norton, Va. My Grandma was a Scot with the maiden name Buchanan. Look8ng back on my Scottish roots I learned to play the great Highland Bagpipes. I'm very proud of my heritage.
I don't have a banjo yet...but when acquire one it's game over
Thank you forward the information 😊
Go see the Roan Mountain Hilltoppers and they'll give you the full dose of real Appalachian music and the history.
That Mt. Just up the road. I live in Johnson City.
What a lovely waysound the guitar player is
Your. Forgetting the English, many songs today are of English origins not forgetting flat foot and clogging.
And a lot of the old ballads.
I thought clogging was of Irish/Scotch origin.
Bluegrass is the ribs fried Chicken and grits mainstream now is nothing but fast food may as well eat the box it came in but some of us still cherish the good stuff
I grew up.in Amish country pa strict Mennonite but I. Like pink Floyd and other classic rock but still go back occasionally to old gospel and blue grass
well. apparently it was the scots that introduced fried chicken to america. the afro/ americans embellished it though.
Great music
This is interesting .
Scott Garcia et
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I grew up listening to Bluegrass.. My People ..
Ms. Peggy Healing with the ANGELS
Bluegrass isn't folk music. Appalachian mountain music isn't the same as bluegrass.
@@AV1611BibleBelievingJimmy Appalachian music is the mother and father father of Bluegrass.
It's from my people, too.
Me too!
My maternal grandmother's family life on Sugar Run in Giles County Virginia, near Visalia and Pearisburg. Is there a connection?
Awesome!
What is the origin of the photo at 0:21? A gamba consort and lute with players in renaissance dress. Very curious. It looks like a photo from the C20th early music revival.
Truth.
Appalachian music of the 'Scotch-Irish' stems from the wild Border Scots clans who were banished to Ulster by James VI of Scotland (and 1st of England) many of whom later migrated to the American colonies... they were never Irish... nor did Irish music have any influence on those Border Scots protestants... even in Ulster!
Oliver Cromwell persuaded Scots to move to Ireland and take over Catholic properties, since he killed the owners. Many people still think Scots-Irish means they were mixed blood by marriage between the two cultures. Not the way it is. Even the Civil War had some lingering undertones of the bitterness of the Order of Orange Scots and the Irish. My mother married a Dannel from White Sulphur Springs, while her mother was a Burnett from Floyd county Virginia. Many Germans are up in the northern Shenandoah Valley.
Hi James i've been searching all over the net for ulster scots music and dance actually in ulster can't seem to find anything i must be going wrong somewhere , mean while here's a piece from over the border enjoy ua-cam.com/video/CqYQLR-5xMg/v-deo.html pss let me know what you think ,
Grand, foot stomping stuff John!
@@johnsmith-bx4rn irish fiddle music came from scotland. you were still learning it when it was in america. fiddle reel music is indigenous to scotland. these music sessions have been in scotland for centuries, new to ireland. stepdancing was in the hebridean islands of scotland but died out with the highland clearances .it,s been popular in canada for centuries along with scottish fiddle music since 1601.even the americans doubt the irish authenticity of irish music in appelacia.
@@brucecollins4729 absolute nonsense bruce , the Irish and their traditions existed centuries before scotland was even thought of , in actual fact the Scoti tribe even came from Ireland , iv'e searched the net high and low for ulster scots music and dancing to compare with traditional Irish there's nothing what's so ever , oh and by the way it's Appalachia not appelacia , if you can't even get that right how do you expect anyone to take anything you say with any degree of truth
Is it normal for them to pronounce Appalachian like they
So AppaLACH-EE-AH is correct, not AppaLAY-SHA?
There is, in fact string instruments throughout west Africa, even today, that are played with a bow or stick ranging from 1 to 8 or so. The fiddle sound is not unique to Scotland or Ireland. Rice is not exclusive to China, and the entire known world beyond Western Europe will argue that the Chinese and Japanese are infinitely better pasta makers than Italians.
Funny they would do all this build up and then end with a non-traditional music group. Was this some sort of plug for this band?
Some documentry , cut the talk ,give us the music
Let’s hear the music and cut the talk.
Bluegrass is not mountain music
Sugar Run guitar picker...howdy "Kinfolk"
☆GannPaw☆
Yeah boy hillbilly..my lifez at 68 yrs
Appalachia is trendy now, ugghh
none from English folkmusic in the south, just Scottish and Irish hmmmm
Doug Link , Irish and Scottish heritage in the Appalachians
@@JellyBean-mf6jv Most originated from the border counties from Scotland and England. The English ones often originating from coal mining communities. Many of the ballads originated in both Scotland, England and Ulster. Anyway we both like the music so doesn't matter , as they are American now.
Doug Link, Yes indeed, I am a mixed mutt, Irish, Scottish, English, German, Holland..love it all,,but first and foremost American and so Thankful my fore fathers came in the 1700's..altho.........lol
@@darkmysterytemple Hi Doug here's where this sort of music originated ua-cam.com/video/aEVmW7fEa8Q/v-deo.html . would appreciate your personnel opinion , or a link to ulster scots and english borders music similar to Appalachian music . regards john
Of course there was, but for some reason they don't mention it in this video.
I don't know where people are getting this idea that the traditional bluegrass music mixed in with African American blues. The traditional Appalachian fiddle music came directly from Irish fiddle music and to this day most of the tunes sound exactly like the Irish music whether its a dirge a lark a ditty or whatever. African Americans had only knowledge of tribal music from Africa. They came here and learned the Christian and Folk music of the Irish and Scottish settlers. The African American blues was derived from the Scottish and Irish music. Not the reverse.
Great observation
Right. Except banjo.
It's a mix and Bluegrass / Oldtime is better for it.
Bill Monroe learned blues scales from a blues player named Arnold Shultz. The blending of traditional Appalachian music with blues is how bluegrass was born. Traditional Appalachian music is not bluegrass. The scales used in blues are not European. They were brought here by African slaves. This is well documented. I've been listening to and studying traditional American music for over 20 years (not counting my father's love of blues or the fact I grew up surround by bluegrass music in Kentucky). It's all very obvious if you pay attention.
@@floydwhatchacallit6823 Eyup! Agree 100%.
The Banjo is literally an african instrument
These pics look like their out of a horror movie....
Interesting. Absolutely no African Interviewees in this segment. What exactly is the Mountain Music “sound”
Without a black influence. It is incredibly peculiar that these Irish immigrants were inspired by “Delta” blues music, at a time when they likely didn’t travel much, and weren’t traveling to the Delta to jam with enslaved Africans toiling under a rigorous work schedule, instead of the legions of black musicians already located in the Southern Appalachia.
The roots of this art, dance and song is Ireland and it is alive and well.
ua-cam.com/video/EsssHAnBW8Q/v-deo.html
ua-cam.com/video/OQmjdYTFvJw/v-deo.html
Its Irish btw, not a scots or a scotch anything,
You wont find this type of dancing outside Ireland or where the Irish went (which is about everywhere even scot comes from what the romans called Irish tribes)
well, "irish"dancing came from scotland as did irish music and a lot of songs/fiddle reels.
Too much yapping and only a tiny bit of good sound.
Another stolen art form,
No, original American music..you weak snowflake