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"He shouldn't be allowed to make coffee, the man works with steam!"
40K Warhammer video about black people
An entire race of danny devitos
They Retcon the story that the Squats never died off.
"If everything is grimdark, then nothing is."
Nice to see that the new faction is (for now) relatively chill and not declining too much.
"if everything is on fire, nothing is"
They will blow up your Planet and take all the minerals they need. Doesn't matter If someone lifes on it or not. Not so chill
Just wait till the guys and girls on Mars find out about what the Votann are exactly ;) ... I bet chill times will be over fast or the Imperium find out about the Ironkin ... but yeah I do like that they aren't overly racist fucks, just greedy lil space dwarves who like to hold a grudge ^^
Tau, Orks, Votann are all “happy” factions.
The people who say warhammer is getting too soft doesnt unerstand that theres no point for grimdark if there wasnt hope before it
The horus heresy isnt great because of chaos creating conflict in the imperium but because humanity was *very* close to dominating the galaxy and was extremely powerfull technologically wise untill chaos destroyed the imperium and made the next 10 thousand years hell for humans... Untill the big G arrived
At least they aren’t the death god destroyer of tau railguns on tabletop. You know it’s bad when GW apologizes
Don't forget their is such thing as Chaos dwarfs in fantasy. In 40k the idea would be neat as the kyn would need to deviate to the dark Gods entirely by calculated decision. They may even be entirely incorruptible yet simply ally with Khorne for gain.
God i love space dawi
Wait would the Kin and the Space Marines fall under ther same category of being engineered bio machines of sorts or would the fact one's cloned and the others birthed monkey wrench that whole train of thought, like are we gonna see the Marines and kin get along better than most or absolutely despise each other
They have to nerf just to talk to the toaster
Fun fact: Votann is an alternative version of the name _Odin_ .
I expect Logan Grimnar to send the cease-and-desist letter before the end of the month. Space Viking is _their_ schtick.
Logan Grimnar: Yer stealing our style....but nice beards
The IP lawyer In 40k are bad... Look the necron VS thousands sons
The Space Wolves can be said to be like Odinists; or the fascists who take on the Viking aesthetic.
However, with how egalitarian and how much the Leagues aren’t out to be conquering imperialists and their devotion to their Ancestor Cores as gods (but not zealotry), the Leagues could be seen to be the true Vikings.
Other fun fact - old episodes of Dr Who featured an AI core known as WOTAN, which while also being named after Odin is clearly very similar to an Ancestor Core in the 40k setting.
Brother gase upon this 😂
I like to think that because of the Leagues, Deep Rock Galactic is now part of 40k
Edit: just realised you're fighting bugs in Deep Rock, which are in effect Tyranids, therefore DRG is canon
ROCK AND STONE!!!
And so, on Hoxxes IV, the Deep Rock League is still fighting Tiranids, that want to prevent Leagues from claiming minerals...
ROCK AND STONE
the adeptus ridiculous video abbot the votann's actually does mention some easter eggs about DRG in their codex, they ARE lore
For Carl!
ROCK AND STONE
This is cool and all but we need a lore video on the great emu war.
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Wouldn't be funny if there was a flightless bird in the year 40k that fights the catachan jungle fighters? And wins?
@@dia3803 using Catachan as a stand-in for Australia is like saying the Sahara desert is a rainforest. Catachan is brutal, but at least things live there. Half of Australia is uninhabitable ever since the kangaroos discovered uranium, and the other half has the biodiversity of an Alabaman household
And a comparison with how the factions of 40k would handle such a bloodthirsty war as well!
@@eg_manifest510 yikes. I knew it was fucked but that bad eh?
It's a fact that the Ancestor Cores contain PDFs of all Majorkill's calendars
Yes, but they're all A5
@@MrMillsy1986 a2 size to the Kyn that is,
Video idea: How would each Primarch react and rule the imperium, if they were the one to return first instead of Guilliman
Lion might do well but he would probably have been a bad pick ultimately being too militant which wasn’t something the imperium had issues with, I think the religious side would have been handled tactfully enough however.
The 2nd primarch whose name I forget would have turned the imperium into a masssive basket ball team
Rogal the same thing, but even worse with how taciturn he is, and he may even have tried to brute force the religion out and caused a canon dornian heresy
Vulkan may have actually been able to lead the imperium into a more positive empire, however path to destruction is paved with good intentions and he may have ultimately been a bad leader, reducing the production in favor of workers rights and crippling the war effort for example.
Leman Russ, I think may have done an okay job, seems like he wouldn’t care about the religious zeal, but the bureaucracy would remain as crippled as ever as he wouldn’t touch it.
Corvus corax might have actually given Cawl more resources for primaris but other than that I’m not sure.
Jagatai kahn, would show up, take a look around, put on sunglasses and ride into the sunset
@@woodlefoof2 i love the TTS Vulkan version mishandling the Imperium with a funny accent and not knowing what is going on
@@khaimk4r4su he would have made an alliance with the orcs at least, so that’s one threat dealt with
As hated as BOB G is, he is a true leader in management sense than any.
And war is management.
No one can replace BOB G in that regard
I think Rogal Dorn is the only other Primarch I'd trust to rule the whole Imperium rather than just lead its armies.
Seems like a GW did a great job integrating in this new faction. I like how they dealt with the whole "where have they been for the past 10K years?" question. Indeed, hope needs to exist in order for the grimdark to persist.
Yeah they actually have a satisfying answer as to why they were gone and why they’re here now whilst gracefully weaving them into recent events/the current narrative.
@@tamonk9054 You can have hope in Grimdark and still have it be Grimdark, in fact, in my opinion having hope and then having it be crushed or annuled makes a Grimdark setting more interesting than just constant doom and gloom things are shitty and there is no chance for it to ever get better
The Tau were like that until loud people cried bitter and salty tears that there was an actual good guy faction in 40K and it wasn't their faction. The Leagues will definitely have the same fate. I hope they don't but I never underestimate the power of people's salt
@@tamonk9054 You make a fair point about Grimdark's unique appeal of fighting on without hope, however, and this is entirely my personal opinion, with your own clearly diverging, I do also enjoy when someone fights for hope, thinks it is there, only for it to be crushed by a force greater than themselves, a force they could not hope to beat, crushing the false illusion they had and leaving them to despair as they die
I disagree that there cannot be hope in Grimdark without sullying it, I agree that there cannot be continued hope in Grimdark that only doesn't manifest or get dashed because it is ignored, but I do not think hope fundamentally clashes with Grimdark, how it is handled can clash or cooexist, but the concept of hope does not inherently oppose Grimdark
@@tamonk9054 and I dislike having no hope for the sake of no hope. Not only does it make the setting incredibly stale but pointlessly unrealistic. Having hope or the idea of hope that's constantly suppressed by some kind of force or circumstances makes it way more interesting. Hell even the idea of hope is tied to a Chaos God so there's room for it and for interesting storytelling. But that's my personal take. If everything is bad for mere sake of being bad it's uninteresting to a story and universe as a whole.
With Guilliman having returned, the cold hard pragmatic (and irreligious) leadership he brings, I'd say it's entirely conceivable he'd be able to get the imperium past its autism and try partner with the leagues, or at the very least get some tech to fix the Emperor or fight the Tyranids or something
Only IF their existence is brought to him first-hand
He would be goddamned ecstatic
Hell no he Wont XD did you read the plague wars books???
Them zealot motherfuccers killed an ultramarines champion, a adeptus custodes and a sister of silence
not to mention a war hero who fought on Cadia itself because they believe their " God " Willed them too.
The imperial truth will never end and the only thing on the horizon , if Guilliman tries to stop it, is another galactic civil war. Black Templars are not going to let their faith go anywhere and will die on that hill
... when you say "irreligious", I would caution not to misinterpret through a modern and incompatible lens. The sensible-minds of 40K may have discarded authoritarian dogma, but even their most insistent contrarians are deeply "spiritual", by our standards. The connections we deem as modern pseudoscience... are genuine-science in 40K. Don't think for a second that Guilliman isn't aware of how his soul was cast. Angel or Demon... he has an intimate knowledge of "architecture and architects" far beyond Humanity's limited conception. A knowledge that must be a companion to any species that transcends... or attempts to transcend within the 40K Universe.
I could imagine he could try striking a trade to give him an STC in exchange for access to Geneseed to help fix their genetic woes.
The Votann lore sounds like AI propaganda...
And I am absolutely here for it 👍👍
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Ai propaganda ? The shite people say and do amazes me and idk why anymore
Sorry I’m a bit slow. What part was propaganda?
@@Krispyy2k because its not giving the Imperium the gawk gawk by not calling ai evil as fuck
@@jj_ai382 thank you ! I’m a big dumb ..
What most people don't realize is that it is already implied that Leaguess had used their Planet Eaters platforms on Inhabited planets, making them one of the few races to commit exterminatus... That I feel balances out how not grimdark they feel from far away.
Having "dim souls" is like the biggest plot armor the faction can have lmao
Fr, chaos corruption only effects the imperium and eldar, everyone else doesn't give a fuck. Orks, thinks they're stupid. Necrons, have no souls. Tyranids, so many souls in such a small space makes a warp EMP. Tau, can't hear them lalala~! -Squats- Leagues, we have dim souls lmao! 😑
@@Marth667 its basically the same deal with the dwarves in fantasy they can’t be corrupted unless they willingly join chaos
@@menmamadrigal1233 short fat people are good people
I couldn't care less about Chaos being less op this time tho
They are probably kind of "Stone men"...
I hope the Squats are in a new dawn of war game with the old mechanics of dawn of war dark crusade, I can only imagine what they would say to other rival factions, what do you guys think?
Yes please! We had the Human, Elf, Orc and Undead and only left Dwarf from the fantasy races.
one things for sure they hate the elves in any shape or form
There were chaos squats back in the day. Just saying.
Agreed
@@arthurhkt9999 lizard people... Green bio horror radical ecologist with vudú and native American influence... Inca over all. Maybe a living planet or a will c'tan antagónica to the void dragon
love how the votann are actually smart and not try to flex their gains is such a breath of fresh air, like how many factions can you list that fuck themselves over pride/ego?
All of them with the exception of the Tyranids, since they are solely focused on feeding and growing their biomass. Glutinous creatures that they are.
I mean they are space dwarfs. Just like the dwarfs, the Kin are secretive and protective of their homes and assets, but honor/pride/greed might still dictate their actions to a fault.
Stubbornness and Greed are the downfall of dwarves
I always thought the 40K setting would improve if it had another Human faction with no ties to the Imperium that did it own thing, so I'm pretty happy with the Leagues of Votann being added.
I'm still holding out hope that the Interex are still around with there own pocket empire far from the Imperium, rebuilding their strength.
100% Agree on the Interex coming back. I had a discussion recently with my buddy about the Interex and they made a interesting point: GW is pumping the Horus Heresy stuff why not add the Interex in to test the waters? If the majority of 40k players like them than GW can come up with some story and have them in regular 40k :P
Don't worry they might be chilling in the triangulum galaxy or Andromeda god knows what human civilization think of milky way and their badonkas...
What would really shake up the lore is if it’s revealed that humanity dipped out of the Milky Way at some point and had colonized the andromeda galaxy. With tech and AI that makes dark age tech look primitive. There’s no way a power imbalance that big would actually be reasonable but it’s still fun to think abt
@@ianharrison5758I think it would be even better if those crazy advanced humans know about the state of the Milky Way, but choose to ignore it entirely.
The Interrex became the Sabbat worlds, a region of space that has had a troubled history with the Imperium. Eventually it rose up in revolt with the Chaos Cults overwhelming the Imperial garrisons leading to a crusade. Those chaos cultists the Blood Ravens gunned down? That's what became of the Interrex. Those Chaos ships blown up by the G-Crons? That's the Interrex. Those terrorists Gaunt shot down? That's them.
Would be nice if some WH fans understood that not everything needs to be grimdark
Honestly I think there needs to be more noble-bright and less grimdark. Mainly because it pisses of the squealing man babies.
@@hibikiverney4146 this is something I can get behind. The WH universe I screwed but it doesn't mean there cannot be good things that don't have some sort of dark side.
@@legaroojack1251 and not all things have to have a bad ending. I think the squats should have a good ending. And not get the tau treatment because the fans bitched too much.
@@hibikiverney4146 agreed.
@@legaroojack1251 they need to understand that just because the setting is grim dark not everything in the setting needs to grimdark
The Leagues are definitely Men of Stone considering how old they are, and that they remember the exodus from Terra to the Core of the Galaxy. Their technology is very similar to what the Imperium has, and we have to remember that most of the weapons that the Imperium uses are mining equipment and low grade in comparison. That not even mentioning the Men of Gold are definitely the massive A.I. cores that are the Votann.
Big lore
What about Squats AND Ogryn? One genetically engineered for mining the other for heavy lifting
* The men of Rock and Stone!!
Men of Gold are more likely the perpetuals in 40k. Men of Gold are said to have guided humanity to prosperity and through struggles, which is what perpetuals did.
@@asianpotter1461 which is also what stc's did
GW: Here's a new, interesting, and well made faction that opens a million doors despite the extremely dire setting.
Random Grimdark Nerd: Why have their machines not enslaved them yet and why didn't the nids eat them the second they were introduced >:("
We don't need more grim dark okay. 😒
A vid about how Chaos marines recruit would be pretty cool
"Hi Kids, do you like violance?"
Daemonculaba * shudders *
i'm pretty sure he's done a video on that horrifying subject.
Never forget that Bruva heralded their return, that and the MTG crossover/the 40K universe being made by Planeswalkers.
I was there, Brother Gandalf. I was there when the Tau were first introduced. They were also "not dark enough" for a while until it was given a few books and games to flesh out the grimdark for them. Give the Leagues a year or so and we'll get some dark shit like all the clones are being made by torturing a living core or something.
If they ever come out with new books for the Leagues, I will buy them in a heartbeat!
I'm surprised you didn't mention this but the reason they're grimdark is they will ruin/destroy worlds for resources no matter who lives there because the leagues think they deserve it.
Tbh they probably deserve the resources because there one of the only 2 noble bright factions
@@thep0tatogodwastaken424
"Genocide is ok because we are good people".
@@C00kiesAplenty if the people that are being killed are bad then it is ok
@@C00kiesAplentyRelatively speaking
@@C00kiesAplentywell like the Aldari it’s a dick move.
Imagine if Felinids and Beastmen also make an empire of their own.
@@dia3803 They'll grimdark it because "fans" can't survive anything without their edgy sauce.
already exists, its called discord
Or Skaven Yes Yes
@@locephaxthearchseducer4621 Oh no. They're gonna fight against Drukhari for the "marked broodstock".
@@locephaxthearchseducer4621 they actually already are but just aren't as Grimdark as their fantasy counterparts. Maybe the great rift will change that though.
Imagine the authistic screeching of a tech priest should he learn about the Votann
We just don't hear about it because all of them died of system overload
If everything is grimdark then nothing is really grimdark. I hope the leagues stay stable and hopeful for a while because it’ll give a nice perspective on how absolute god awful everything else is.
I almost wonder if the Leagues have been fostering the T'au, possibly all the way back to the emergence of the Ethereals. If the Kin had enough knowledge to genetically engineer themselves to survive the core, they could have also engineered the Ethereals. They could have put the ship on the T'au moon that allowed them to create their Ether Drives. And when they did, the Demiurg were there to "help" them.
I kinda hope not, cause the only thing the tau have above the rest is that they advance quickly and to say actually erikson and company over there were just helping them cross the street makes the tau even more pathetic in the galaxy than they sadly already are
I'm so happy they were introduced cause I love dwarves! Hope GW doesn't go full grimderp in an effort to satisfy the grimdark setting
I think the Leagues are ripe to be the true protagonists of the 40k setting but with the proper grimdark flavor; dirty on the outside, almost spotless on the in.
The thing that gets me, the Squats were killed off by a Mail Reader in an issue of WD. It wasn't official, it just kinda became the cannon.
If the Demiurge were Kin this whole time... that eases a bit of the Homebrew I was gonna make for why my League Army had good relations with my Tau Sept! Much appreciated!
I think it's implied that Demiurg is simply one of the many Leagues who struck out from the Galactic Core, and kept quiet about the true scale of their race and society.
i like this approach, since it makes the shawties more of their own thing rather than just an affiliate of the imperium of man. the idea of anthropomorphized artificial intelligences taking the role of totem spirit for a clan is pretty neat, too. it feels like the mechanicus cult but with a more explicitly animist flavour.
I think the leagues of votann don't really have to fit in the grimdark mold that the other factions are in. they can add a believable contrast to everyone else.
Leagues of Votann is that something new that Warhammer needed. Maybe Interex could return too
I feel like everyone who says the Leagues aren’t grimdark forget about the whole giant planet eaters they have, and that they don’t really care who might possibly be on a very plump ball of resources
40k needs a good guy faction. If everything is just constantly grimdark then there is no realistic point of reference. Also a good guy faction would put the rest of them in perspective.
The Leagues of Votann , The Faraight Enclaves Tau, Craftworld Aeldari some Harlequin Troupes and Exodites Exist already that's as close as to " good guys as your gonna get "
"No realistic point of reference" You know that throughout history the 'good guys' weren't always good to their people right? There is your realistic point of reference. One look at history and you'll see people suffering under the rule of their governments and institutions.
As 40k becomes more mainstream (a good thing) it is diluted by casuals who see everything as too dark/horrible and want to project their black and white simplicity onto a world which allows for none. They want the very obvious good guys to fight the very obvious bad guys because they cannot fathom a world where moral ambiguity is the constant state of affairs very much like their own real world circumstance. This over time makes 40k just like every other fantasy movie, novel etc which is precisely why it gained traction because it was _different._ This is the effect of casualisation in where popular titles gain prominence because they're different only to become like every other mainstream title, boring and forgettable.
Squats:
HELP OUR ANCESTOR CORES ARE FAILING!
Archeotech-Support:
Have you tried turning it off and then on again?
Just got my MajorKill Cosplay Calendar and boy oh boy does each month bring utter excitement, especially the last month, can’t wait to see what can top this utter piece of art ❤
Udder excitement?
@@guyver441 booba
Slaanesh influence detected
For once I actually like how GW has handled this
The Cores used to be like supercomputers but nowadays they are like Google Chrome with loads and loads of open tabs
ROCK AND STONE BROTHERS
DID I HEAR A ROCK AND STONE?
I don't like 40k lore nor aesthetics, though i do enjoy the Tau and now the votann are here to give me an interesting scifi shake up.
I'd like 40k more if there was more votann like factions around
A Lore Video about Asdrubael Vect and his current state in the latest lore would be cool ^^
I know it's easy to snort "Space Dwarves!" at the LoV, but credit where it's due, GW have done a pretty good job integrating them into a 40k setting, giving them their own look and feel and giving lore-friendly reasons for why they are the way they are.
Damn the leagues seem awesome. ROCK AND STONE!
I for one would like to see the Leagues help fix the Golden Throne, give the Emperor a chance to come back, and then the Emps lead a massive crusade to crush the leagues and get his hands on their STCs
So, basically the Leagues are just the Deep Rock Galactic Dwarfs...
"...sadly, any rule 34 of the Leagues is not lore friendly." - This is why I get 90% of my lore from Majorkill, because he researches the truly important issues.
"The Grineer used to be builders. Now, all they make is *war.* "
... if they view the Mechanicus as shamanistic... then Mankind has withheld as much information as the Votann during their limited encounters. It's going to come as quite a surprise to these little carni's that the Mechanicus has learned how to psychically communicate and repair the Votann's failing quantum-circuitry. Perhaps a trade is in-order...
Perhaps GW is preparing an "event" if you will, The return of The Leagues, Chaos making their moves, The Imperium running out of time. Maybe some sorta big thing is going to happen where a lot of important characters could die or lots of epic duels could take place, etc. I feel like it's all building towards something
The Tau Empire dying
The Farsight Enclave declaring independence
Orks Sacking Mars
Y’know, Grimdark stuff.
End times vibes…
The return of the Silent King too, with the guarantee of more hive fleets heading towards the Milky Way…
I learned more in this video than in 3 episodes of Adeptus Ridiculous full of bad jokes and anime references
As for grimdark. I feel like harvesting a planet's core while the population is still living on it is an excellent example of how the leagues have that element. It's amazing how many fans seem to ignore that fact
Selfish dwarves.
Sounds very industrial like, more please. Make them grim dark as now they're forced to be as they cannot be isolationists because the cicatrix maledictum kicked them out into an uncaring horrible galaxy. Soooo many mf's want them to be nice and shit it's maddening.
@@Marth667 Well, if people didn't start screaming for the Tau to be Grimdark, then the other side wouldn't be asking that for the dwarves. Having hope in an absolutely fucked up galaxy makes it all the more Grimdark. Not everyone needs to be an evil motherfucker for it to be Grimdark. Having that one spot of hope in an otherwise uncaring galaxy would've made the Grimdark better, because the Noblebright good guys that want the best for everyone can't do shit because if they did anything then they'd be erased by the more ruthless and callous big boys like the Imperium.
The best hope for the galaxy becoming a better place are the bastards that would get erased the moment they do anything the others don't like. They're noble, but they can't do jackshit despite their niceness because they have no hope of becoming anything more than that one guy in the middle of nowhere that everyone forgets about but loves to pummel them into the dirt when they do remember.
So, following that, if everyone is equally evil, why should you bother getting invested as all you want is for literally everyone to just fucking die? If everyone is evil, you have no one to root for.
In that sense, the Squats are the closest to Noblebright outside of the Farsight Enclaves and it's fucking refreshing to see. Sure, they're a selfish lot, but they are a far cry better than anyone in the other factions excluding the Enclaves and are basically the same as the elves.
It's not about grimdark or noblebright, it's about having a breath of fresh fucking air and something different from the usual "Hurr Durr, grimdark best, daemonculaba greatest grimdark," because that's not how it goes. Watch Overly Sarcastic Productions take on Grimdark.
I agree, not everything has to be mega dark horrible hopeless.
Not to downplay the grimdark, not at all, i do think the majority of the setting works best if its grimdark, with small pockets of noblebright here and there to act as contrast.
I am also inclined to agree with the belief of some grimdark stuff will happen with the Votann eventually, for now they are just setting the stage.
Big agree on the hope thing. I always go back to LotR for that argument. Its the untarnished hope of the Fellowship that makes the insurmountable despair much more compelling. And vice versa.
The Squat sound like the better idealize version of the Imperium
p.s please dont tell the inquisition
So I'm only halfway trough the vid, so maybe it will come up, but:
*How in the fuck are they going to be overpowered as fuck? *
Like having dim souls etc. are great advantages and several working STCs and all the tech level that comes with it and the iron-kin it all together just makes them op.
Or should, at least if there are not for example limitors on their extreme power/potential like all the sleepy noble house strive between Necrons or the infigthing of orcs together with the fact that they are mentally challenged and will fly two rocks into each other and not fuse cause half of the hudnreds of thousands of orcs just lost thought that was dumb/unorcy.
So yeah they sound kinda op
Lovely, they made the Dwarfs ancestor worship the immortal AI. Which is very in charater and nature to them. Sadly GW now "stole" one of my ideas for a comic which I have in mind for years by now but thats also a logical progression when you think about "Dwarfs In Space." And whats the moral of that story? If you create something, be fast in publishing it or someone else will do it for you!
Remember, there is NOTHING unique under the sun anymore. Everyone's ideas have been done by someone else before, some are just more well-known than others. So I say keep working on your comic! Even if the Immortal AI worship for Space Dwarves idea has been done, the way in which you yourself put together ideas and concepts done by others in your own universe and story is what will make your work unique from others with similar ideas.
Hm. Sounds like the leagues are a bit too powerful for their own setting. Not only did they not reset their level of technology like the ancient humans and then later the imperium (so basically two resets) did but they are also a progressive thinking, sensible society. Frankly, there seems to be absolutely no reason why their tech development should have stalled for more than 10.000 years. By this point they should be at least equal to the ancient Necrontyr or Eldar. 10.000 years is a really long time.
Then again, I'm not really actually into the while grimdark thing so I like races like these.
I suppose one way to slightly grimderp them would be to imply that the appearance of the Ethereals was the doing of the kin (genetic engineering after all) and that the T'au Empire is a puppet of the Leagues.
Least they aren't overpowered anymore
Leagues are supercapitalists, there is really enough potential for grimdark just with that premise and some good storys
I like that they went with the classic adage of dwarves being master craftsmen by giving the Kin intact STCs.
if a votann were corrupted by chaos, could it create the dwarves of chaos?
they are very uncorruptable, they have small souls.
@@yvesdado9545 I don't say squats, I say votann themselves
Why people like corrupted sh*t
@@andreanecchi5930 they 2 m8
@@shubhamturkar8333 no idea
Noice
Whoops new top 3 faction just arrived. Love me some teched-up factions. That's why my top 3 currently are the Necrons, Tau, and now the Leagues. Sorry, mankind. Too much edge there with the grimderp. All in on the sleek tech.
so basically the leagues are the opposite extreme of The Imperium?
awesome!
I legit hope they become semi- bros (even if it's only out of a need to survive) with the Imperium, like the Empire and Dorfs in fantasy.
I mean Imperium already has a strong aryan man wielding an ancient uberrkilla weapon that was used by their literal god, maybe Space Gotrek and Space Felix could be a thing.
The demiurge and squat connections are all very solid. Surprising gw made these links to the three groups themselves. PS. Just because it’s non canonical, doesn’t mean you couldn’t make a fantasy dwarf chick cosplay as a league of votaan, right? XD
Great Records of Grudges. Record 40k year of grudges. Especially the grudges against the eldar for calling them SHORT...
Then.... Dark Eldar disguise as Craftworld eldar kidnap a Kin and cut of his beard....
The leagues of Votann are pretty cool. Personally, I think that they could be ignorant and stubborn to the Galaxy around them, that could lead to Grimdark situations.
Example: The leagues find a world outside of the core. It is plentiful in resources and is blooming with life. They immediately set up a base of operations that starts to extract resources.
However, some of the kin reports saying that a few of their comrades have started acting weird. The symptoms are: Crying, lying on the ground, and clawing at their eyes and ears. The kin in charge of expedition dismisses the odd behaviour and blames dehydration and refers to the strange kin as snowflakes.
After two weeks, more and more of the strange behaviour is reported. The kin in charge decides to take action and orders troops to investigate the mines.
However, after the troops go into the mine, the communication lines go silent, and the air feels cold. Still, the kin decide to arm themselves and deal with the phenomenon themselves rather than call out for reinforcements.
The kin wait at the entrance of the mines and throw explosives into the mines. However, they don't hear the explosions. A kin decides to walk into the mines and investigate what had happened.
Before he could even make it to the entrance, a metallic hand grabs him by the neck and drags him into the mine. The other kin open fire, as necron warriors trudge forwards out of the mines. Skorpekh destroyers claw their way out from the ground and start to kill the kin in the whirlwind of gore. The kin watch in shock as the necrons reanimate from any injuries and ignored wounds that should've been fatal. The last kin stands in shock as the necrons pause. A necron Overlord walks towards him, purposely stepping on the corpses of the dead kin. The kin tries to shoot the Overlord at point blank range, but he is out of ammunition. The Overlord's ominous eyes gazed into the Kings soul, leaving the kin frozen in fear. The Overlord picks up the kin by the neck with one hand, and gives him a look of disgust. "Rats" the Overlord said as he squeezed the life out of the kin.
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As someone who has recently been binging a lot of lore and wiki articles online, the Votann fit so well with the 40k universe that I thought they had been around much longer.
I just assumed they were a relatively obscure faction until I realized most of the info on them was less than a year old.
The Votann have the privilege of being iterated to the point they are.
Older 40k heads recognize them as the Squats, which were the original 40k dwarf race, which were at the time categorized as an abhuman faction of the Imperium.
Now the Squats have been retconned to have been a League of the Kindred, who got cronched pretty bad by some Tyranids and are virtually non-existent.
The homeworlds of the OG Squats, especially Necromunda- well, those guys are actually more aligned with the Imperium than the Votann are.
Dwarves were my favorite warhammer fantasy race so the League will probably be my favorite faction in 40k now! I have always never really vibed with the other factions but now I have hope
I was thinking "Gee, wonder why Majorkill hasn't touched on the Leagues of Votann yet? Oh wait, he's probably waiting until we have full lore so he doesn't sound like an idiot". And I was right!
Also, hey I was looking for a VPN!
THE BUGS NEED SQUASHING!!! CAN I GET A ROCK AND STONE?!?!?!
This was genuinely really helpful. My eyes kept glazing over during the Loremasters video
Credit where credit is due, the Leagues of Votann act like dwarves in space. They’re hardy, loyal and stubborn; they have nearly unsurpassed weapons, tools and craftsmanship. They’ve holed within the Galactic Core and mining their little dwarf hearts out and now that invaders have come, the dwarves march to defend their strongholds.
But the things that make them feel like Dwarves isn’t very Grimdark. Values like loyalty to one’s family, honor in battle, and appreciation for a hard days work just doesn’t feel like most of 40K.
Honestly, I’m fine with that. GW could have gone the “racist dwarves” route, but c’mon, you can’t out-xenophobe the Imperium of Man. I trust that the Leagues will become darker with time and will develop their own schtick in the setting, but right now all I need are Space Dwarves marching to war.
I caved and bought the new Squats starters. The models are cool and dwarves are awesome!
I really hope they do more with the leagues. Would be nice to have a some what 'good' human faction
Nope. They aren't the Squats people wanted. They also look too clean and modern instead of looking industrial. Should've just retconned the whole Squats being eaten by Nids as one big Administratum mistake while updating the existing Squats.
Hell, the 1d4chan Squat Army List looks far better than this. Sorry, but GW missed the point with Squats.
Edit: Wouldn't have minded it if these guys were one of the Squat Leagues, but sadly they are not.
The very existence of the leagues is the hopeful aspect. They are everything humanity could be. Their obvious incompatibility with the imperium is what brings us back to grimdark. Humanity *could* be redeemed, the throne *could* be fixed, but it wont, as the Imperium of Man will surely vow to destroy their own salvation.
Also, the league has solved alignment. This new lore could not have come at a better time.
Theory. Humanity, before they could travel the warp without gates, sent AI ships into the galaxy. They were fully automated. No humans. These ships would setup, and the AI would create humans from scratch. These were the men of stone. They literally seemed like they came from stone.
Some ships landed on earth like worlds and humans started breeding naturally once created.
The League ships went into the core worlds and were heavily isolated. They just never fell. Chaos and Necrons avoided for natural reasons.
I bet that the Votann STC were isolated from a virus that infected the STCs of every other world. Or they had enough time to firewall it.
The Votann are desperate. The cores cannot expand unless given an 'all clear'. And that is probably held on Mars in a command core that is held secret or unknown.
Ah yes, the Nid Snacks
Garbage Wreckshop hoped we forgot about them but we didn't.
So when are we getting Space Vampires, lol you know GW will even try to make Space Cathy although the Tau fit that already.
leagues of votann get most of their resources from the most dangerous planet in the galaxy called hoxxes lV which is also your workplace.
now get down there miner and make sure to leave no dwarf behind.
ok but jokes aside the "kin" (i still prefer squats) doing risky missions to save their robotic companions reminds me so much of how drg community treats the in-game robots ive only once failed to bring dotty back home and that was only because she seemed to dissapear into the backrooms and ive never recovered from it. 😢 💔
So, anyone look at the maps of 40k? See how the cicatrix maledictum actually consumes the whole centre of the galaxy? Yeah. That would mean the leagues are full on in the centre of the warp and not this partial amount like they show at 8:26. This is about as stupid as crawl keeping the primaris a secret for ten millennia. Gods this is dumb, GW gonna have to ret con the fucking map of the galaxy, again.
Hopefully Fatshark will include the Squats in Darktide sometime in the near future
I really hope GW doesn't turn the Leagues of Votann doesn't become a bunch of Grimdark dweebs like what seems to have slowly become the case with the Tau. I even feel there is a level of grimdarkness about a bunch of sane normal people now needing to deal with the lunacy and horrors of a galaxy they've tried they're best to steer clear of.
I think they are already overplaying the grimdarkness in 40k. Alot seems to be written to be grimdark for the sake of being grimdark with no actual purpose or story to build from it. (Like gellerfields being comatosed psychers)
Let Votann be a little wholesome, currently Orkz is the closest thing to wholesome we have because they do what they love every day.
I really hope that Votann catch on because they have potential to be majorly badass. Grimdark can't be just fucking depressing all the time, and Votann can be the badass "good guys". Bottom line, space dwarves, get bent.
Adeptus Mechanicus: "STCs you say?"
I think people complaining that 40k isn't grimdark _enough_ and reject any nuanced form of lore are just like 12 years old complaining they do not get their favorite ice cream. They just need to chill out. :/
Can you do a video on the different tactics each chapter/subfactions use in battle?
I think the leagues are my new favorite faction. It’s nice to have a faction that’s not entirely awful and frustratingly stupid.
Grimdarking things that didn't need to be grimdark is how we got the worst of Tau lore. The Imperium need a noble foil, that is what the Tau use to be and what the Votann can be.
So, Basically, Deep Rock Galactic. But instead of loads of beer, It's just brain damage. Pog.
Oh. My. God. Emperor! We have a human faction with Dark Age of Technology tech?!?!!?!!