I'm gonna give ratting in a frigate a shot. I've always heard about it, and your video makes it look very agreeable. Thanks for posting; thanks for doing great work!
... I admit it... Hehehe, I actually rather dislike the design of Gallente ships, but like their stats. On the other hand, I like design of Amarr ships, but lasers and generally slow speed mess with my playstyle :)
Amarrian vessels are admittedly the prettiest in the game. I like a lot of the Caldari ships, only because I think they look closer to what we, on Earth, might make in the future. Big blocky ships that may resemble giant wings or I-beams. Modular construction.
I appreciate the time and effort you put into these videos, Reload. Thank you very much you have helped me grow very much as a newbro. Here is to hoping your popularity grows all around. 🖖🏻
Thank you very very much! I need to tighten my belt and trim expenses. So one of my three Omega accounts has to go Alpha. I was considering bio-massing him as I did with the other six "spare characters." I found them to be a money pit to maintain and consolidated their resources to the three main characters on the accounts. But I've grown fond of this character, he's one I first developed in Second Life two to three years ago. So he's virtual an old friend by internet considerations. Going Alpha ratting with him is going ot be a nice change of pace from my primary accounts.
Great video mate, but you said in the video for the Amarr that the hardest part about low sec ratting is to get there first. I would be thankful for a video that explains how to evade camps and such, and I think others would too. Cheers!
Really enjoyed watching both of your low sec ratting videos! I'm especially tempted to try out the Incursus, that ship just looks neat. Excited to see your Minmatar and Caldari low sec ratting videos as well!
Man the Atron is awesome. The first time I tried this fit I caught the exact same battleship as you did lol. But, not knowing what it was, I attacked a Serpentis Clone Negotiator and it shot me down in 2 hits. Good to have such a cheap ship. Guess I know what NOT to deal with now
Hey Reload, thanks for the very useful vid. Ive been running it for a few days and doing very well with it now. A pirate i spoke to after she killed me said she shared the fit with her mates and they said it was a very good fit. I told ner where i got it. Keep up the good work.
@@ReLoadGV Absolutely. Though for some reason I'm getting 110 dps instead of 124+ like you. I checked the skills you mention verbally as well as the 2 skill pages you show. and the only things lower than you are "Rapid Firing" and "Sharpshooter" in Gunnery and "Repair Systems" and "Hull Upgrades" in Armor (all -1 level from what you have). I have 1.3mil skill points. I'll have it all levelled up in a day for Gunnery and 4 days for Armor. I have difficulty with anything 500K and over. On the 500k and 650k ships, I've found a tactic that seems to speed things up. On those big ships I just use "Approach" and sit there touching the ship. Its guns can't hit me until I eventually bounce to its stern and settle inside the ship. After about 20-30 seconds it will start to hit me, so I alternate back out to orbit and pulse my armor repair as needed. I don't think I've been able to take out a 1.0 or 1.25 mil ship yet.
Thanks for a great video. Ive been avoiding low sec because i was unsure what to expect and what i could accomplish with a cheaper vessel, but this gave me lots of useful information and confidence, going in! 👍👍👍
I know this video is over a year old, so I doubt it will get noticed, but I appreciate how simple and easy to understand these videos are, and was wondering if you could also do a caldari alpha clone guide, since those ships are very different in that all their (shield) tank modules are almost exclusive to medium slots, and armour seems to have an even split between medium and low power slots, and shield tanking has much much fewer options for modules compared to armour. I made my character over a year ago, before you could cross train into other race ships, and all my 5mil are in caldari relavant skills. I'm aware I could probably reroll a new character, but I'd really just like to play my main and would also like some advice for fighting gurista pirate ratts, as opposed to amarr and gallante themed ratts, as they use a mix of both turrets and also rockets. I'm also lazy and dont want to move all my operations to another region just to farm another factions content; call me a theme whore. Really appreciate the videos, gave a like and sub. (also I like your voice; very ASMR :)
Thank you KhanKeal :) I can definitely put Caldari Alpha clone ratting on my to-do list. Off the top of my head, I'd probably use a Kestrel or a Condor for that. The biggest difficulty is, of course, Gurista rats. I tend to avoid them as much as I can because of their annoying ECM. Since you'd like to fight them, I think the best I can offer is get as much Thermal dps as you can :D. I'll look into what it takes to fight Guristas successfully.
a good tip would be to orbit the BS as close and fast as feasible, and kill the frigs so all you have to worry about is the BS after. It's a strategy I used shortly after Alpha clones first came out with an autoThrasher during the Drone nests event (the one that gave out cerebral boosters). Orbiting BCs at 500-1000m really just flat negates damage projection. I'd assume the same from a Battleship.
Great video again! Thanks for making it reload! I just finally set my computer/office up in my new place and these make me want to get back into Eve again!
I'm a little late to this party but I'll comment anyway. In this video you said you were primarily looking for battleships. If you were just doing that for the sake of the video that's fine. But I've found when ratting you shoot EVERYTHING! The loot is more valuable then the bounties. I pick up a lot of great loot from battle cruisers and cruisers. Mostly items that sell for 500k plus and often get warp disruption field generators that sell for 1M plus.
love my incursus, i can clear all L3 and most L4 missions in it, and I've killed a stratios in it solo (his light drones were a problem but I had active tank and was able to kill him before he got me into structure). I fit an afterburner so rat cruisers up turrets just can't hit and missiles do very little damage. Takes a while to kill battleships, but if you're not receiving damage and nothing on D-Scan, then you've got all the time in the world; but it is expensive way of killing battleships (re ammo costs).
This is such a damn helpful video, has made me want to try out ratting in expendable frigates now, looks fun and definitely doable! Thanks for making these videos
An alternative to this is a federation navy comet, as it has higher DPS, similar speed and a (nearly) same slot layout, however the fit I'm referring to does cost 15 x as much as the Atron fit shown here, which means it may not be worth it for lowsec ratting unless you can fully afford to lose it. Most of the same can be applied when comparing to the Incursus, as the comet, how I use it at least, is esentially an Incursus-Atron Hyrbid kind of ship.
Nice video, really liket it! Questions: how do you go about finding theese rats? Just any lowsec system, or how do you do it? If a base of operations could be recommended to a newbie, that be prefection :)
Thank you! And yes, any low sec system will have NPC ships in the asteroid belts. The exact mechanics of proper ratting techniques are too complex for a youtube comment, but in general the lower the security status of the system, the higher is the chance of a battleship spawn. When I do this I usually fly around 0.2 to 0.1 systems that are quite isolated and not traveled much. I also like to fight Blood Raiders since they seem to be the easiest ships to destroy. Avoid Guristas, their ECM targeting jam is very annoying. I don't really "base myself" anywhere. Just fly to a pocket of low sec and enjoy! (just watch out for busy systems with gate camps, etc)
5:10 He means they are not able to handle the angular tracking of your ship in order to get effective fire on you, not that they cannot target you. They will be able to target you just fine.
Hey Reload. Been with you awhile now, wondering if you could do a video or two on Gal Mil PVP in lowsec. Lord knows we could use the help right now. Either way keep up the good work. Really digging your content as of late. Maybe hit us with a Fallout stream or two.
Sorry, you're right. I misread the interface. Thanks for all the excellent beginner tutorials. My skills have improved dramatically since discovering your channel. Keep up the great work! o7
what really helps getting through the battleships defenses is using the proper ammo type. EMP for shield and explosive for Armor really helps to kill them.
Correct, but it depends on the faction. Every faction is susceptible to specific damage type. For example, for Bloor Raiders, it's best to use EM/Thermal ammo.
I liked that video. It was cool. Though why didn't you go for a damage control in the low slot? Does the same for the armor values and gives a little more burst tank for shield and hull. I had to change the midslots to their varients to fit it but it works. [Incursus, Incursus] Small Armor Repairer II Damage Control II Vortex Compact Magnetic Field Stabilizer 200mm Rolled Tungsten Compact Plates Fleeting Compact Stasis Webifier Warp Scrambler I 1MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner Limited Light Ion Blaster I Limited Light Ion Blaster I Limited Light Ion Blaster I Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I Hobgoblin I x1 Antimatter Charge S x360
Questions on Atron: Why not use Small Ancillary Armor Repairer? Also, what's the benefit of having a web and not using it? With the Incursus why do you opt for a T1 drone vs a T2 or an EC-300? Also, for the low slots why use armor plates that have major implications on your transversal/agility/inertia/warp-out when you could use a SAAR (even a SAAR and a Small Armor Rep)? I'm also surprised that you don't opt for a Damage Control II or a Microfiber Internal Structures for defense/movement versus the plate. Again, I would implore any new player to be actively using that web to slow ships down (= more tracking = more damage). Maybe I'm missing something?
On the Incursus, why not go for even more DPS? Odds are you’re boned in PvP in either frig, but if you go full DPS with a rep in the Incursus you’re much tankier and would have higher dps = more kills/hr = more isk/hr.
It was a angel cartel cruiser, sadly not a battleship. I made about 3 mill from that 1 kill, 1 mill from the bounty, and a little under 2 with a dog tag and a module.
Howdy! I took out a fairly similar atron fit as an alpha and had trouble breaking sansha BS tanks, just thought I'd mention for anyone else wanting to use a similar ship. Or it could just be that I am bad, all things are possible!
Sanshas are tough. I usually avoid them with these fits. In my experience, Blood Raiders are the easiest rats to destroy, but try all of the pirate factions to see what works better in your case.
This reminds me of doing lvl 4's with nothing but a group of frigates(and maybe a logi). This was long before logi frigates. Now it might be worth it to try again with those...
I was doing this in a tristan, found a serpentis stasis webifier, could not flee back to offload that fast enough. Paid for my tristan like 75x over though.
+Thulio Alves null is a different ball game. It's tough for an Alpha. This fit definitely won't work. It may be possible with a fast cruiser though. I'll have to test it out
Yeah... it's been slow. My alpha characters are trained now and ready for more videos. Within next month, I should be able to pump out the rest of frigate alpha clone guides and then some cruiser ones.
Nice tips, could u find a ship/fit that could kill the battlecruiser rats as well? the ones over 1m isk? coz they regen armor too fast to be able to kill it with this :D
+Dante Frost I think you're talking about clone soldiers. Those are very tough to destroy, especially for an Alpha clone. You would need a solid battlecruiser DPS. Might work with a strong cruiser.
Actually I managed to do it with an Imicus + drone :). Alpha clone soldier recruiters, 1.25M isk each + the tags that u can loot and are worth 2m each if u sell to npc, maybe more if u sell to players
Does the incursus really need the plate on the lower? How much does another mag stab increase dps? I guess the tungsten would be a lot better if you get jumped. did the numbers (all these with my current skills) Magstabx2: 125.4 dps, 908.7 m/s, 2343 EHP Stabx1/platex1: 114.6 dps, 866.6 m/s, 3349 EHP. So you lose 11 dps and 40 m/s for over 1k EHP
+GreyPowerVan yeah the fit is flexible. More armor buffer would help you survive for longer. Best to try for yourself to see what fits your playstyle better
that's just how i played eve. back in 2009. The incursis was alot worse back then, but i killed those 500k battleships so many times. I even found a 'shadow' and made 300+mil (alot more isk back then) from an implant....
Sorry I am super noob, but what makes ur ship so fast? When I had an Atron I was going 500m/s, with afterburners, but i only had mastery 1, and no sped boost fittings other than afterburner I. Do u just have a really good afterburner or is it a mastery/skill thing? Sorry if i missed this in the vid
It's likely the skill level. Also, I used 1MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner for that fit. Don't really worry about Mastery levels, it's just a broad information tool that doesn't actually indicate your "mastery" of a ship, it tells you what skills are useful for any particular ship. Train up your navigation and afterburner skills (or really any skill that's related to the ship and equipment used) and you'll improve your stats.
Turns out you can kill a 1.5m Clone Soldier Transporter (20M tag in loot) with this. It just takes about 30 minutes. Unless you use faction AM ammo in which case it's ~4 min.
Just dont do ratting in Faction Warfare system .. And faction ship is more expensive than cruisers, so if you cant buy faction ship you can safely do it with drone cruisers instead, and use drones than regular weapon. A T1 harbringer kitting from 75km away with faction drone can finish rat on lowsec without even touched.. less worry and also less skill training. cmiiw dont forget to bring MTU to help with loot and salvaging wrecks best way for alpha newbros to farm with minimal isk on his wallet
I have a keyboard shortcut setup. I don't remember exactly where you can select one, but try to go through key bindings in the game settings and one of the items will be "remove GUI" or something like that.
If you orbit at a little larger radius from the BS, would the added speed help you not get hit or do you find that orbiting closer makes it harder to hit you due to tracking?
The orbit speed will always be the same (ie max speed), but because of a very short radius, your angular velocity increases past the point at which the turrets can track you. Definitely try to orbit as close as you can provided it's in your weapon's range.
+Mike Literus CONCORD bounties are given to all NPC pirates. You typically we'll find them in asteroid belts or during missions. For this guide we only warp from asteroid belt to asteroid belt finding battleships in low sec systems.
Atron and Incursus are different but they aren't better than a Tristan. Tristan is a solid ship and the only reason why I didn't include it in the video is because it would make it too long. Cruisers are very good for this, but they are slow and easy to be caught by pirates. Cruisers won't be as cheap to replace as frigates.
Do the ships dont drop any decent loot? U would think that a Battleship atleast could drop valuable things to a newbro. If your down into 50% armore then sure warp away just incase. But with a 100% armore u would think u could do a quick fly by to just grab the loot and warp away quickly.
So it is best to circle them at a close range? My character has access to really long range firepower like 20 or 30 km so Ive been warping in, catching them like fish and then flying away from them while firing and I haven't even lost my shields yet. I am presuming that battleships don't work like that?
Ordinarily I would say that long range is good. Warp in, pick off rats from range, warp out. It depends on what ship you're using. You need to have a high transversal velocity to "fly under" the battleship guns. Basically, you want to be faster than the guns can track you. Battleships can easily hit you at 20-30km and it's much easier to track a target that's farther away. It's too detailed to explain in a comment. But try to see for yourself if your speed is fast enough at 20km not to get hit.
Hi i tried to fit my ship exactly like yours, but i get only 89.3dps only component missing from fitting is Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I which itself costs around 1mil (which is too much for budget ratter) also tried to take down npc battleship, but failed, since it could tank itself faster than my dps. What might be main reasons for such a low dps ? do skills count that much?
Skills definitely count, every little bonus stacks up. That rig that you're missing will also add to DPS. What you could do is go after battlecruisers for now instead. Their bounty is lower, but you'll be able to destroy them faster, giving you a better ISK income.
Can anybody explain why I can’t seem to get my DPS over 80? My character is a Minmatar alpha clone with all relevant Spaceship Command and Gunnery skills at level 3 or 4. I’ll post my fit bellow and would welcome any suggestions you might have. Ship: Rifter (78.2 DPS) Low Slots: Small Armor Repairer I 2x Gyrostabilizer I Medium Slots: 1MN Afterburner I Warp Scrambler I Stasis Webifier I High Slots: 3x 200mm AutoCannon I (All loaded with Phased Plasma S, Fusion S or EMP S depending on the rats. DPS is the same, regardless) Rig Slots: Small Projectile Burst Aerator I Small Projectile Collision Accelerator I
It gave me more buffer in case the incoming DPS overwhelms my armour rep. I wasn't sure if this character's skill level will be able to handle good defense. Adjust the fit according to your skills and optimize it every time you level up :)
This guy definetly needs a job in radio or public announcing somewhere. What a fantastic voice!
Thank you!
Dude lookin like he made himself in the character creator
lmao
😂
You have a very nice voice for narration. I always like listening to your videos. It's very calm and relaxing.
Thank you Joel!
I'm gonna give ratting in a frigate a shot. I've always heard about it, and your video makes it look very agreeable.
Thanks for posting; thanks for doing great work!
Admit it, Reload. It isn't the ships that makes you like Gallente. They share your hairstyle.
... I admit it... Hehehe, I actually rather dislike the design of Gallente ships, but like their stats. On the other hand, I like design of Amarr ships, but lasers and generally slow speed mess with my playstyle :)
Amarrian vessels are admittedly the prettiest in the game. I like a lot of the Caldari ships, only because I think they look closer to what we, on Earth, might make in the future. Big blocky ships that may resemble giant wings or I-beams. Modular construction.
have flown caldari for years, solo pvp and changed to amarr for about six months and still ended up flying caldari again. I love those ships.
bruh lol
When it comes to Gallente, I love the shapes, but hate the color scheme. Luckily skins exist.
I was not gonna watch this full, but i actually sat through this video . Im glad i did .
Thank you for watching!! Glad you found it useful
I love the Atron - its a cute ship I like to use for tackle! Great guide. I love how you take time to explain everything.
Atron/Executioner are my favourite ships. So zippy!
I appreciate the time and effort you put into these videos, Reload. Thank you very much you have helped me grow very much as a newbro. Here is to hoping your popularity grows all around. 🖖🏻
Really enjoy your uploads 😃 You have a wonderful easy listening voice and this makes it easy to follow.
Thank you very very much! I need to tighten my belt and trim expenses. So one of my three Omega accounts has to go Alpha. I was considering bio-massing him as I did with the other six "spare characters." I found them to be a money pit to maintain and consolidated their resources to the three main characters on the accounts. But I've grown fond of this character, he's one I first developed in Second Life two to three years ago. So he's virtual an old friend by internet considerations. Going Alpha ratting with him is going ot be a nice change of pace from my primary accounts.
Bro come back, EvE has gotten good here lately with the Trig invasion.
Great video mate, but you said in the video for the Amarr that the hardest part about low sec ratting is to get there first.
I would be thankful for a video that explains how to evade camps and such, and I think others would too.
Cheers!
+The Budgie Admiral Thank you for suggestion! Once I complete Caldari/Minmatar guides, I will make a general guide on staying safe in low sec. o7
Really enjoyed watching both of your low sec ratting videos! I'm especially tempted to try out the Incursus, that ship just looks neat. Excited to see your Minmatar and Caldari low sec ratting videos as well!
Man the Atron is awesome. The first time I tried this fit I caught the exact same battleship as you did lol. But, not knowing what it was, I attacked a Serpentis Clone Negotiator and it shot me down in 2 hits. Good to have such a cheap ship. Guess I know what NOT to deal with now
Hey Reload, thanks for the very useful vid. Ive been running it for a few days and doing very well with it now. A pirate i spoke to after she killed me said she shared the fit with her mates and they said it was a very good fit. I told ner where i got it. Keep up the good work.
Thank you! Glad this fit serves you well
@@ReLoadGV Absolutely. Though for some reason I'm getting 110 dps instead of 124+ like you. I checked the skills you mention verbally as well as the 2 skill pages you show. and the only things lower than you are "Rapid Firing" and "Sharpshooter" in Gunnery and "Repair Systems" and "Hull Upgrades" in Armor (all -1 level from what you have). I have 1.3mil skill points. I'll have it all levelled up in a day for Gunnery and 4 days for Armor. I have difficulty with anything 500K and over. On the 500k and 650k ships, I've found a tactic that seems to speed things up. On those big ships I just use "Approach" and sit there touching the ship. Its guns can't hit me until I eventually bounce to its stern and settle inside the ship. After about 20-30 seconds it will start to hit me, so I alternate back out to orbit and pulse my armor repair as needed. I don't think I've been able to take out a 1.0 or 1.25 mil ship yet.
I prefer the Minmatar alpha clone. Cause they have some pretty fast ships.
Wow Reload you make the best Eve guides of all time, everyone loves them :D
+cloboak oak thank you for your support!!
Good of you to zoom in on the fitting. Good vid +1.
Thanks for a great video. Ive been avoiding low sec because i was unsure what to expect and what i could accomplish with a cheaper vessel, but this gave me lots of useful information and confidence, going in! 👍👍👍
I know this video is over a year old, so I doubt it will get noticed, but I appreciate how simple and easy to understand these videos are, and was wondering if you could also do a caldari alpha clone guide, since those ships are very different in that all their (shield) tank modules are almost exclusive to medium slots, and armour seems to have an even split between medium and low power slots, and shield tanking has much much fewer options for modules compared to armour. I made my character over a year ago, before you could cross train into other race ships, and all my 5mil are in caldari relavant skills. I'm aware I could probably reroll a new character, but I'd really just like to play my main and would also like some advice for fighting gurista pirate ratts, as opposed to amarr and gallante themed ratts, as they use a mix of both turrets and also rockets. I'm also lazy and dont want to move all my operations to another region just to farm another factions content; call me a theme whore. Really appreciate the videos, gave a like and sub. (also I like your voice; very ASMR :)
Thank you KhanKeal :) I can definitely put Caldari Alpha clone ratting on my to-do list. Off the top of my head, I'd probably use a Kestrel or a Condor for that. The biggest difficulty is, of course, Gurista rats. I tend to avoid them as much as I can because of their annoying ECM. Since you'd like to fight them, I think the best I can offer is get as much Thermal dps as you can :D. I'll look into what it takes to fight Guristas successfully.
Perfect timing! This will help me fitting my Incursus, THANK YOU!!!
+Bell Cross You're very welcome!
a good tip would be to orbit the BS as close and fast as feasible, and kill the frigs so all you have to worry about is the BS after.
It's a strategy I used shortly after Alpha clones first came out with an autoThrasher during the Drone nests event (the one that gave out cerebral boosters). Orbiting BCs at 500-1000m really just flat negates damage projection. I'd assume the same from a Battleship.
Great video again! Thanks for making it reload! I just finally set my computer/office up in my new place and these make me want to get back into Eve again!
+Dj Bucci awesome! Great to hear!
I'm a little late to this party but I'll comment anyway. In this video you said you were primarily looking for battleships. If you were just doing that for the sake of the video that's fine. But I've found when ratting you shoot EVERYTHING! The loot is more valuable then the bounties. I pick up a lot of great loot from battle cruisers and cruisers. Mostly items that sell for 500k plus and often get warp disruption field generators that sell for 1M plus.
love my incursus, i can clear all L3 and most L4 missions in it, and I've killed a stratios in it solo (his light drones were a problem but I had active tank and was able to kill him before he got me into structure). I fit an afterburner so rat cruisers up turrets just can't hit and missiles do very little damage. Takes a while to kill battleships, but if you're not receiving damage and nothing on D-Scan, then you've got all the time in the world; but it is expensive way of killing battleships (re ammo costs).
Right on! Incursus is a great ship
whats your fit?
This is such a damn helpful video, has made me want to try out ratting in expendable frigates now, looks fun and definitely doable!
Thanks for making these videos
Thank you for watching!! It's a lot of fun if you're a new player, expendable is the way to go.
An alternative to this is a federation navy comet, as it has higher DPS, similar speed and a (nearly) same slot layout, however the fit I'm referring to does cost 15 x as much as the Atron fit shown here, which means it may not be worth it for lowsec ratting unless you can fully afford to lose it.
Most of the same can be applied when comparing to the Incursus, as the comet, how I use it at least, is esentially an Incursus-Atron Hyrbid kind of ship.
Nice video, really liket it!
Questions: how do you go about finding theese rats? Just any lowsec system, or how do you do it? If a base of operations could be recommended to a newbie, that be prefection :)
Thank you! And yes, any low sec system will have NPC ships in the asteroid belts. The exact mechanics of proper ratting techniques are too complex for a youtube comment, but in general the lower the security status of the system, the higher is the chance of a battleship spawn. When I do this I usually fly around 0.2 to 0.1 systems that are quite isolated and not traveled much. I also like to fight Blood Raiders since they seem to be the easiest ships to destroy. Avoid Guristas, their ECM targeting jam is very annoying. I don't really "base myself" anywhere. Just fly to a pocket of low sec and enjoy! (just watch out for busy systems with gate camps, etc)
awesome video, hope you do a caldaari fit next
+protuzul206 totally! Caldari is next on the list
You lied to me...
haa
Very good video, I like how relaxed your commentary is.
5:10 He means they are not able to handle the angular tracking of your ship in order to get effective fire on you, not that they cannot target you. They will be able to target you just fine.
Oops, yep that's what I mean, misspoke :D
Any plans on doing this for each race?
Clones are almost trained up and ready to go. Caldari and Minmatar videos coming up soon.
I can't find these videos have you posted them yet?
Caldari and Minmatar videos coming up soon?
@@anthonyfrost1123 You can just train up Gallente or Ammar frigates it only takes like 30 minutes.
Any chance you'll be doing a Minmatar video as well? That'd be awesome.
Both Caldari and Minmatar guides are coming up, just training up the alpha clones.
+Reload where are they??
Talk about coincidence. I am mining in the same system you filmed in while watching your vid.
Haha! Awesome!!
NICE Video, took them as inspiration for Ratting in Eve Echoes!
I fly the Myrlyn now but also wanted to do kestle. I’ll keep watching for the update videyo thank you
Hey Reload. Been with you awhile now, wondering if you could do a video or two on Gal Mil PVP in lowsec. Lord knows we could use the help right now. Either way keep up the good work. Really digging your content as of late. Maybe hit us with a Fallout stream or two.
Great video.
Is there a reason you chose not to utilize your Wrath’s launcher slot for a bit more DPS? Not enough CPU/powergrid to accommodate?
Thank you! Wrath's launcher slot? I used up all of the high slots available for each ship, nothing else could be fitted to increase DPS at this point.
Sorry, you're right. I misread the interface.
Thanks for all the excellent beginner tutorials. My skills have improved dramatically since discovering your channel. Keep up the great work! o7
Thank you for watching!! Glad these videos are helpful for you :)
what really helps getting through the battleships defenses is using the proper ammo type. EMP for shield and explosive for Armor really helps to kill them.
Correct, but it depends on the faction. Every faction is susceptible to specific damage type. For example, for Bloor Raiders, it's best to use EM/Thermal ammo.
You made me play on my skill farm gal toon with this video. Reload guides best guides. o7
I liked that video. It was cool. Though why didn't you go for a damage control in the low slot? Does the same for the armor values and gives a little more burst tank for shield and hull.
I had to change the midslots to their varients to fit it but it works.
[Incursus, Incursus]
Small Armor Repairer II
Damage Control II
Vortex Compact Magnetic Field Stabilizer
200mm Rolled Tungsten Compact Plates
Fleeting Compact Stasis Webifier
Warp Scrambler I
1MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner
Limited Light Ion Blaster I
Limited Light Ion Blaster I
Limited Light Ion Blaster I
Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I
Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I
Hobgoblin I x1
Antimatter Charge S x360
though it's another 200k isk more with a total of 3m you get another 800ehp.
It would be cool if you could paste the fits in your description. I had to jump back and forth in the video to get all parts together.
@Reload I know you said you don't like drones, but could we get a Tristan fit and gameplay?
Questions on Atron: Why not use Small Ancillary Armor Repairer? Also, what's the benefit of having a web and not using it? With the Incursus why do you opt for a T1 drone vs a T2 or an EC-300? Also, for the low slots why use armor plates that have major implications on your transversal/agility/inertia/warp-out when you could use a SAAR (even a SAAR and a Small Armor Rep)? I'm also surprised that you don't opt for a Damage Control II or a Microfiber Internal Structures for defense/movement versus the plate. Again, I would implore any new player to be actively using that web to slow ships down (= more tracking = more damage). Maybe I'm missing something?
i test it just now... love the Atron :)
On the Incursus, why not go for even more DPS? Odds are you’re boned in PvP in either frig, but if you go full DPS with a rep in the Incursus you’re much tankier and would have higher dps = more kills/hr = more isk/hr.
Thanks for the great tips, keep up the good work and livestreams o7
Thank you! Awesome talking to you on livestreams! o7
I used the same fit, but modified for a rifter.
Just took out a 1 mill bounty cruiser alone, It took a while but i did it with a 2 day old char. :D
+maddni w00t! That's the way to go! What faction was the battleship? Some are easier than others.
It was a angel cartel cruiser, sadly not a battleship.
I made about 3 mill from that 1 kill, 1 mill from the bounty, and a little under 2 with a dog tag and a module.
+maddni doesn't matter, you got awesome bounty! That must've been a clone soldier. Usually those are very tough, congrats on the kill!
You sire have a talent for public speaking. I would not be surprised that is what you do in your life :)
Thank you! It's not my day job, but I enjoy doing this :)
enjoyed the video reload. great job!
+packetcreeper Thank you! o7
damn you reload! now I want to play eve and I am stuck at work!!
+The Gentleman Gamer sorry :( looks like no sleep for you
these videos are fantastic, i hope we can fleet up at some point
Thank you! I regularly do EVE Online Viewers' fleet livestreams. Join me on my discord server discord.gg/0nTOA7GCekyNxxlV we can definitely fleet up!
Compensation skills only increase the bonuses from passive hardeners, so without having any of those fitted, you don't need the skill at all
+nonwatcher good point. Good thing I didn't bother training them, that'd be useless for this fit
Howdy! I took out a fairly similar atron fit as an alpha and had trouble breaking sansha BS tanks, just thought I'd mention for anyone else wanting to use a similar ship. Or it could just be that I am bad, all things are possible!
Sanshas are tough. I usually avoid them with these fits. In my experience, Blood Raiders are the easiest rats to destroy, but try all of the pirate factions to see what works better in your case.
thanks the fit worked nicely
This reminds me of doing lvl 4's with nothing but a group of frigates(and maybe a logi). This was long before logi frigates. Now it might be worth it to try again with those...
Serpentis Baron: Nooo you cant's overwhelm me and my escort you're just in a cruiser!
Me in my Vexor: Haha Hammerheads go blam
me in my pre-nerf-VNI: hehe 5 Ogres go boom
I was doing this in a tristan, found a serpentis stasis webifier, could not flee back to offload that fast enough. Paid for my tristan like 75x over though.
+Jackpkmn that's what I'm talking about! Good job 👍!!
Nice video. Suggestion: lock up all 3 rats, orbit battleship at 500, kill the two frigates... damage makers gone now, kill BS while taking no damage.
Nice one Reload
+Maarten Engelhardt thank you!
I love your videos they helped me alot, i was woundering if this fitt can do null rats if not can you recommend some ?
+Thulio Alves null is a different ball game. It's tough for an Alpha. This fit definitely won't work. It may be possible with a fast cruiser though. I'll have to test it out
Great video thanks Reload
+darson100 You're very welcome! Thank you for watching! o7
Love your videos brother, wish you would make more again, o7
Thank you for this man, you are as cool AF
You're very welcome! Thank you for watching
really nice video ty for the help
Anyone watching this after V18.07, Adaptive Nano Plating is now named Multispectrum Coating.
so how far are you with the other guides? you replied to a couple of people about 2 months ago that they were coming up, are they due soon?
Yeah... it's been slow. My alpha characters are trained now and ready for more videos. Within next month, I should be able to pump out the rest of frigate alpha clone guides and then some cruiser ones.
Nice tips, could u find a ship/fit that could kill the battlecruiser rats as well? the ones over 1m isk? coz they regen armor too fast to be able to kill it with this :D
+Dante Frost I think you're talking about clone soldiers. Those are very tough to destroy, especially for an Alpha clone. You would need a solid battlecruiser DPS. Might work with a strong cruiser.
Actually I managed to do it with an Imicus + drone :). Alpha clone soldier recruiters, 1.25M isk each + the tags that u can loot and are worth 2m each if u sell to npc, maybe more if u sell to players
Does the incursus really need the plate on the lower? How much does another mag stab increase dps?
I guess the tungsten would be a lot better if you get jumped.
did the numbers (all these with my current skills)
Magstabx2: 125.4 dps, 908.7 m/s, 2343 EHP
Stabx1/platex1: 114.6 dps, 866.6 m/s, 3349 EHP.
So you lose 11 dps and 40 m/s for over 1k EHP
+GreyPowerVan yeah the fit is flexible. More armor buffer would help you survive for longer. Best to try for yourself to see what fits your playstyle better
Reload lol after finding its only 10 dps I'll be fitting the plates.
+GreyPowerVan hehehe, makes sense
Use electron blasters to deal more dps and to speed up the kill
that's just how i played eve. back in 2009. The incursis was alot worse back then, but i killed those 500k battleships so many times.
I even found a 'shadow' and made 300+mil (alot more isk back then) from an implant....
Nice!! That game mechanic is still here. I wish I knew that I could take on a battleship in a frigate back when I started
Gallente blaster DPS + serpentis buffer tank instead of repair tank.
Sorry I am super noob, but what makes ur ship so fast? When I had an Atron I was going 500m/s, with afterburners, but i only had mastery 1, and no sped boost fittings other than afterburner I. Do u just have a really good afterburner or is it a mastery/skill thing? Sorry if i missed this in the vid
It's likely the skill level. Also, I used 1MN Y-S8 Compact Afterburner for that fit. Don't really worry about Mastery levels, it's just a broad information tool that doesn't actually indicate your "mastery" of a ship, it tells you what skills are useful for any particular ship.
Train up your navigation and afterburner skills (or really any skill that's related to the ship and equipment used) and you'll improve your stats.
Turns out you can kill a 1.5m Clone Soldier Transporter (20M tag in loot) with this. It just takes about 30 minutes. Unless you use faction AM ammo in which case it's ~4 min.
+Esamon Havarian oh nice!! That's good to know. I'm surprised you were able to break its tank
I have dozens of tags but I don't know how to cash them in. Please enlighten me :)
wiki.eveuniversity.org/Clone_Soldier_Tags
hey, thanks for the great link :)
whats the approx isk/hr from low-sec ratting?
4 to 8
Just dont do ratting in Faction Warfare system ..
And faction ship is more expensive than cruisers, so if you cant buy faction ship you can safely do it with drone cruisers instead, and use drones than regular weapon. A T1 harbringer kitting from 75km away with faction drone can finish rat on lowsec without even touched.. less worry and also less skill training. cmiiw
dont forget to bring MTU to help with loot and salvaging wrecks
best way for alpha newbros to farm with minimal isk on his wallet
+reload nice vid. how did u closed all windows at once to see for the explosion? and then they appeared.
I have a keyboard shortcut setup. I don't remember exactly where you can select one, but try to go through key bindings in the game settings and one of the items will be "remove GUI" or something like that.
Really good video.
Thank you!
If you orbit at a little larger radius from the BS, would the added speed help you not get hit or do you find that orbiting closer makes it harder to hit you due to tracking?
The orbit speed will always be the same (ie max speed), but because of a very short radius, your angular velocity increases past the point at which the turrets can track you. Definitely try to orbit as close as you can provided it's in your weapon's range.
My dude, great video!
could you post up the info for both of the rigs?
you look like an eve character lol
I AM an eve character XD. Thanks for watching o7
While its not a bad vid, i think caldari are the best faction to play when fighting NPC’s. Just my opinion. Great vid still
Caldari are very good because you can tailor your damage types with missiles. Plus missiles are way easier to manage.
Sorry, I'm a noob but how do you find these bounties?
+Mike Literus CONCORD bounties are given to all NPC pirates. You typically we'll find them in asteroid belts or during missions. For this guide we only warp from asteroid belt to asteroid belt finding battleships in low sec systems.
Question, are those ships better than "Tristan"? I ratted low high sec with it. Are cruisers any good for this?
Atron and Incursus are different but they aren't better than a Tristan. Tristan is a solid ship and the only reason why I didn't include it in the video is because it would make it too long. Cruisers are very good for this, but they are slow and easy to be caught by pirates. Cruisers won't be as cheap to replace as frigates.
Kiting BS rats in a Atrin in low sec. Great fun!
I would love to get some tips on low-sec ratting minmatar style. What is the go to, super affordable ship?
good job !
Thank you!
LOL, Asteroid targeting me! that was good.
Happens to me more often than it should :D
Do the ships dont drop any decent loot? U would think that a Battleship atleast could drop valuable things to a newbro. If your down into 50% armore then sure warp away just incase. But with a 100% armore u would think u could do a quick fly by to just grab the loot and warp away quickly.
So it is best to circle them at a close range? My character has access to really long range firepower like 20 or 30 km so Ive been warping in, catching them like fish and then flying away from them while firing and I haven't even lost my shields yet. I am presuming that battleships don't work like that?
Ordinarily I would say that long range is good. Warp in, pick off rats from range, warp out. It depends on what ship you're using. You need to have a high transversal velocity to "fly under" the battleship guns. Basically, you want to be faster than the guns can track you. Battleships can easily hit you at 20-30km and it's much easier to track a target that's farther away. It's too detailed to explain in a comment. But try to see for yourself if your speed is fast enough at 20km not to get hit.
Is it possible to do the same for a caldari character? I would very much like to see if it's as effective as this one/amarr.
Hi
i tried to fit my ship exactly like yours, but i get only 89.3dps
only component missing from fitting is Small Hybrid Collision Accelerator I which itself costs around 1mil (which is too much for budget ratter)
also tried to take down npc battleship, but failed, since it could tank itself faster than my dps.
What might be main reasons for such a low dps ? do skills count that much?
Skills definitely count, every little bonus stacks up. That rig that you're missing will also add to DPS. What you could do is go after battlecruisers for now instead. Their bounty is lower, but you'll be able to destroy them faster, giving you a better ISK income.
how are you not dying after the first hit? when I play I am not able to survive one shot from one NPC?
i would love to see that video for minmatar.
Training that character right now :) Video to follow soon
i'm waiting waiting xD
Can anybody explain why I can’t seem to get my DPS over 80? My character is a Minmatar alpha clone with all relevant Spaceship Command and Gunnery skills at level 3 or 4. I’ll post my fit bellow and would welcome any suggestions you might have.
Ship: Rifter (78.2 DPS)
Low Slots:
Small Armor Repairer I
2x Gyrostabilizer I
Medium Slots:
1MN Afterburner I
Warp Scrambler I
Stasis Webifier I
High Slots:
3x 200mm AutoCannon I
(All loaded with Phased Plasma S, Fusion S or EMP S depending on the rats. DPS is the same, regardless)
Rig Slots:
Small Projectile Burst Aerator I
Small Projectile Collision Accelerator I
What was that scanning thing you were doing to see if anyone comes near you and how do you do it?
That's directional scanner. I don't have a video explaining it in detail yet, but will be making one in the future :)
Thanks, now that I know what it is, I'll just ask in the rookie help channel in-game
Why do you put an armor plate on the Incursus if you have an armor repairer?
It gave me more buffer in case the incoming DPS overwhelms my armour rep. I wasn't sure if this character's skill level will be able to handle good defense. Adjust the fit according to your skills and optimize it every time you level up :)
Would you do another fit now when Tech 2 can be used by alfa clones?
Once the update rolls out, I'll be doing more alpha clone videos.
Just a thought, a nos and a dcu might help you immensely - if you can fit them - and someone comes in to ruin your day.
I wonder how it would be in a destroyer... I think I will try
Could you pull this off with a Tristan I wonder?