I feel for better or worse, Flores and KOC are cut from the same cloth. Flores continues to blitz despite leaving the middle exposed against elite WR tandems. KOC continues to call long developing pass plays despite opposing defenses killing his QB.
@@ryanb5099 there were multiple times they blitzed Pace, but he got stopped immediately by the O-line or the RB. Perhaps it looked like they didn’t blitz because it was so ineffective, but they did. And when they didn’t get home, Stafford made them pay.
Facemask penalties are one of the most dangerous things in the NFL…. any personal foul should be able to be called from the replay if the refs miss it… if they’re gonna make a hip tackle a foul out of “safety“ they sure as heck should be able to generate flags from the replay booth on things as flagrant and dangerous as facemasks if they truly want to put it into it… I think what makes this so infuriating is that it was a flagrant in the sense that he didn’t just grab it and let go. He literally pulled him to the ground by his face mask.
Here’s what I see, the Vikings are a gimmick team, if their style doesn’t work they get worked. I think it’s due to not being able to get push from both the interior Oline and Dline. If you can’t control the line of scrimmage you have to resort to non traditional ways to get stops or move the ball.
Correct... you build a team from the inside Out. Offensive line defensive line and QB. We're built around a wide receiver it's never gonna work... finesse teams get wrecked by physical teams.
The Vikings are the NFL version of what the Michigan Wolverines were in college when Michigan had Don Brown as DC. Michigan would destroy teams with lesser talent like Minnesota does, and lose every game vs. teams that had equal or better talent just like Minnesota does… Brown is exactly the same defensive coordinator as Minnesota has, blitz happy imbecile leaving the middle of the field wide open at all times to be gutted… As a Lions fan I’m grateful for your defensive coordinator, because the Vikings will never beat the Lions with that guy running the defense…😳😁
I think it’s time to admit the obvious elephant in the room. These games are intentionally manipulated to affect betting lines and live betting. There is no way these kind of calls or non calls can be legitimate. The reason this official keeps making these ridiculous calls is because he’s supposed to make these bad calls to affect the billion dollar betting lines. C’mon people, a vast majority already know this and it’s time for a real discussion about this topic that is taboo for most of the media. BTW, this wouldn’t be the proverbial “conspiracy” as you say. By definition a conspiracy has to be “unlawful” and it’s not “unlawful” for the NFL to fix games that is already labeled as “Sports Entertainment” like Wrestling is.
@@MrTeetime The ONLY way the Vikings cover the spread is to have scored a TD, a 2 point conversion, and win in overtime. I doubt the NFL blowing this call had ANYTHING to do with betting. Per usual, the most likely explanation is, in general, the truth. In this case? Incompetence.
Does it seem like KOC abandoned the quick hitters that were successful in the first couple drives or did you see the Rams change something to take that away…it seems like the 10-15 yard strikes are their but we end up going to bombs or screens 🤦♂️. SEEMS LIKE KOC OR Darnold trying too hard to go big
The scripted plays go smooth. Those are practiced plays. The problem is when they start their designed plays, they are just poorly drawn plays. The team isnt good enough to execute KOCs designed plays. KOC is just really a poor play caller and designer. Darnold holds the ball forever, and falls apart. Very poor coaching all around. Very poor effort by the players.
Steal 1 ? I don't think so, vikings couldn't score a td outside the 1st quarter. Rams D shut them.down to 2 fg....It is what it is.. Move on and get ready for the next one...
Most public bet was Vikings ML and Vikings spread. Vegas has full control over games like this. Hence the no calls on 3 of our 3rd down stops on defence and that facemask no call. Did we deserve to win? No. But I would love to see how it would have played out if it was fair.
Why can't the DBs play more physical at the line instead of a playing off. They have five yds to hit the receivers and give the Defensive lineman more time!!!!!! What is with the DCs that cant get this!!! Kevin Oconnel and his play calling is terrible!!!!!! This team will not go anywhere with these hardheaded coaches! Having said that, I believe the gambling industry has a firm hand on the NFL!!!!
It's all BS, he couldn't see Darnold's facemask fine. But just the way he was brought down should've told told him a lot, it was not a body tackle, the defender's arm was fully extended and clearly reaching in the helmet area and Darnold's body was blatantly yanked from his head back. A competent official would easily see that especially being so close to the play. If that's not enough, the ref on the other side of the endzone clearly DID have eyes on the facemask and also did not throw his flag. Why not just throw the flag while you figure out what happened? You can always decide to pick it up if it's decided no penalty actually occurred. These refs are consistently proving that they are not capable of making rhe right calls when they matter most. And considering 80% of the betting money was on the Vikings, coupled with the over/under at 48.5, or 48 in some books, it makes that no call look a hell of a lot worse and just feeds into the narrative that some of these games if not most or even all of them could be rigged. People are going to be calling for investigations if this keeps happening, with good cause.
@@MrTeetime no, it’s not. Y’all are making too much to do about nothing. I would love nothing more than for Flores to stay, I don’t want him to leave and be a head coach elsewhere. We’re not even halfway through the season and the defense has had 2 bad games…the majority of which falls on the players not the coach. Committing drive extending penalties is tough to overcome. Whoever thinks that Flores has no shot to be a head coach next year because of one game, is an idiot.
@@ryanb5099 One game? That defense has melted down in each and every game other than the Texans. They constantly pull vanishing acts. GB, Jets, Detroit, Rams.
@@MrTeetime 1st in interceptions, 3 in sacks, 6th in points allowed, 2nd in points scored. Beating teams 35-3 every week isn’t going to happen, and if that’s your metric for a successful defensive effort then you’re just unreasonable. We’re gonna be fine…and if I’m wrong, you can come back and say I told you so.
Biggest concern for B-Flo is not being able to get pressure with 4…sometimes you need to just “man up”…bad game for Pace, Gilmore and Hitmam…which tends to support the playing flat.
I believe the Vikings have historically played bad games coming out of the buy week…that compounded by a London Trip, a short week and back to back games that were intense (against division rival Super Bowl contenders and against the Rams that were literally playing for their season combined with the return of their two biggest offense weapons and the story of McVey against his pupil)…all that being said… the Vikings (especially the D) looked flat and low energy. Not overly concerned…self inflicted penalties were key and a half step away from several big opportunities. SKOL! CD injury was my biggest concern coming out of this game.
I agree on the job at the end, but the "booth" doesnt have the authority to call a penalty sadly...now the argument can be made they should have that ability, but the way the rules are currently written they cannot overturn a non-call.
They are reviewed to see if the score counts. Meaning ball crossed goal line, receiver got feet down in bounds etc. not reviewed to see if there was face mask or a holding call
The Vikings are doing so much better than I anticipated, so I am super pleased with their current record and expect them to turn this around soon. I watched last night's game fully expecting them to score and tie the game. Maybe my rosy outlook is because I expected the team to be 1-6 right now, but I believe in the team more that I have in recent years. I am even okay with KOC getting a bit "pass-happy" and straying from the run at times and Flores' tendency to rely on the blitz. Fingers crossed.
When it comes to the eyes in the sky, a no-call is different than a called penalty. Once the eyes in the sky start calling penalties then you've opened pandora's box. Holding can be called on every play. Pass interference can be called on every play. Everything subjective would take us down a penal rabbit hole I don't want to go down.
Replay assist should not have assisted. Not in the rulebook to overturn facemask penalties. Said as such on the broadcast. Would be like reviewing touchdowns to see if there was a holding.
So glad I benched the Vikings D in fantasy. I thought with Kupp and Nacua in we would not do well and I was right. But which D can stop both of them plus Kyren Williams?
I share the thinking of "you gotta live with bad ref calls" for the most part, but I think this level of missed call transcends that whole argument. If a player can commit the most BLATANT penalty right in front of two referees and get away with it, and all we will get is a comment from the refs after the game saying "they couldn't see it clearly" and absolutely nothing else will come out of that, then who's to say the league can't and won't blatantly decide the outcome of games through bad refereeing since there is nothing anyone can do to refute them. This is the type of call that severely diminishes my enjoyment of the sport.
Leads to the argument that refs don't "call" the game, they control the game. If the ref doesn't make an obvious call right in their face what else don't they call to affect the outcome?
This team, organization just can't find those players that are hard...opposite of soft. This team just seems to be, in the end, just average. They aren't horrible, they aren't great, they are MID.
I like all the fans are angry with a bad call, but I am more upset that this team was not playing well and were flat and not the ream that started the season. The rest of cc the NFL has figured out what you can do to deal with the defense. They have figured how make them look like a bad defense. Tge Offensive line is also looking ragged at best, and with #71 injured last night, I hope the best for him. So if the Staff of tge Vikings can't get the team up and ready for the games, they have to change the scheme on both sides of the ball because it's not working. As the season goes on, the injury monster seems to show up and that seems to happen much on this team in the middle of the season. Many of the top players try to get more to go the extra mile, and leads to injury. This is a decent team, but may make the playoffs, but there are better teams.
Feels like the Lions and Packers play callers just end showing the nfl how to school the defense each year Giving up a 28-7 lead to 6 points with 10 mintues felt like an alarm many wanted to ignore Also that no facemask call does not change the game but a league that claims to care about player safety it not a good look
The face mask was egregious but let’s not act like the Vikings offense wasn’t held to two field goals in the second half of that game. To say the Vikings would drive 80 yards down field with 1:30 left on the clock score a td and a two point conversion to tie it up with no timeouts left is crazy. The Vikings hadn’t shown the ability to finish drives the entire second half of that game
I’m sorry but when I saw that 90% of the money was on the Vikings, I pivoted and bet on the Rams. If you’re someone that doesn’t believe that sports are rigged, this is a prime example that it is. 90% OF THE MONEY ON THE VIKINGS.
As a rams fan this was 100% a clear facemask but I feel no sympathy for the vikings. The rams had the same thing happen against the bears and not a word was said lol.
Still down 8 with no timeouts needing to drive the entire field AND get 2 just to TIE. Horrible call, but not why the Vikings lost. They also missed holding in the end zone on the same play and a facemask on the Rams last drive. Better team won tonight. Vikings got manhandled on both lines of scrimmages.
First, every team gets horrific no calls. If they saw it and flagged it, that still doesn’t tie the game. Queens still need to go 82 yards with no timeouts, score a tuddy and a 2pt conversion with no time just to get to overtime. Stop acting like that call cost your team this game. Lions have dealt with this for decades and nobody wanted to hear us cry.
I think betting money is corrupting some NFL officials. The NFL is ruining the game by embracing betting. It’s way too easy to pay an official under the table with bitcoin. People will stop watching if they think Gamblers are influencing the outcome. The only way the NFL can control it is allow reviews of referee calls AND non calls. Pass interference/defensive holding calls are way too inconsistent.
This same play Fiske was getting held, no call. On the Rams last drive, Williams got a no call on a face mask that would of iced the game. This nonsense about a right to a chance is selective whining. The Vikes got out coached and out played.
The refs have sucked for 30 yrs, so that's no excuse. This team is back to "hoping" this or that team loses, or that they have an easy schedule. They lost whatever they had in the 1st 3 games. Having 3 garbage drafts is why they're where they are, and now they have 1 real pick and a couple nothing picks next yr. They are in deep shit and are going to be there for a while.
Facemask penalties are one of the most dangerous things in the NFL…. any personal foul should be able to be called from the replay if the refs miss it… if they’re gonna make a hip tackle a foul out of “safety“ they sure as heck should be able to generate flags from the replay booth on things as flagrant and dangerous as facemasks if they truly want to put it into it… I think what makes this so infuriating is that it was a flagrant in the sense that he didn’t just grab it and let go. He literally pulled him to the ground by his face mask.
There really needs to be a rule change, allowing replay to overturn an obvious bad call or when one has been missed. In this case, would have been very quick and easy for replay to intervene and point out the obvious face mask. The Vikings totally got hosed on that one.
I feel for better or worse, Flores and KOC are cut from the same cloth. Flores continues to blitz despite leaving the middle exposed against elite WR tandems. KOC continues to call long developing pass plays despite opposing defenses killing his QB.
Flores hardly blitzed after the first two drives, were you even watching the game?
@@ryanb5099 there were multiple times they blitzed Pace, but he got stopped immediately by the O-line or the RB. Perhaps it looked like they didn’t blitz because it was so ineffective, but they did. And when they didn’t get home, Stafford made them pay.
@@jgberzerker they usually blitz at a 45-50% rate. They were nowhere near that last night. I didn’t say he stopped blitzing I said he hardly blitzed.
@@ryanb5099 Clearly you didn't
@@ryanb5099 Rushing 5 is blitzing, and he did it all night.
Facemask penalties are one of the most dangerous things in the NFL…. any personal foul should be able to be called from the replay if the refs miss it… if they’re gonna make a hip tackle a foul out of “safety“ they sure as heck should be able to generate flags from the replay booth on things as flagrant and dangerous as facemasks if they truly want to put it into it… I think what makes this so infuriating is that it was a flagrant in the sense that he didn’t just grab it and let go. He literally pulled him to the ground by his face mask.
Here’s what I see, the Vikings are a gimmick team, if their style doesn’t work they get worked. I think it’s due to not being able to get push from both the interior Oline and Dline. If you can’t control the line of scrimmage you have to resort to non traditional ways to get stops or move the ball.
I wouldn’t say they are a gimmick, but completely agree with your assessment on the interior lines on both sides of the ball.
Correct... you build a team from the inside Out. Offensive line defensive line and QB. We're built around a wide receiver it's never gonna work... finesse teams get wrecked by physical teams.
@@andrebriscoe2272you should be the gm
The Vikings are the NFL version of what the Michigan Wolverines were in college when Michigan had Don Brown as DC.
Michigan would destroy teams with lesser talent like Minnesota does, and lose every game vs. teams that had equal or better talent just like Minnesota does…
Brown is exactly the same defensive coordinator as Minnesota has, blitz happy imbecile leaving the middle of the field wide open at all times to be gutted…
As a Lions fan I’m grateful for your defensive coordinator, because the Vikings will never beat the Lions with that guy running the defense…😳😁
@@DetroitLions59You don't know football.
I think it’s time to admit the obvious elephant in the room. These games are intentionally manipulated to affect betting lines and live betting. There is no way these kind of calls or non calls can be legitimate. The reason this official keeps making these ridiculous calls is because he’s supposed to make these bad calls to affect the billion dollar betting lines. C’mon people, a vast majority already know this and it’s time for a real discussion about this topic that is taboo for most of the media. BTW, this wouldn’t be the proverbial “conspiracy” as you say. By definition a conspiracy has to be “unlawful” and it’s not “unlawful” for the NFL to fix games that is already labeled as “Sports Entertainment” like Wrestling is.
I doubt it, but not impossible.
@@MrTeetime The ONLY way the Vikings cover the spread is to have scored a TD, a 2 point conversion, and win in overtime. I doubt the NFL blowing this call had ANYTHING to do with betting.
Per usual, the most likely explanation is, in general, the truth. In this case? Incompetence.
Does it seem like KOC abandoned the quick hitters that were successful in the first couple drives or did you see the Rams change something to take that away…it seems like the 10-15 yard strikes are their but we end up going to bombs or screens 🤦♂️. SEEMS LIKE KOC OR Darnold trying too hard to go big
The scripted plays go smooth. Those are practiced plays.
The problem is when they start their designed plays, they are just poorly drawn plays. The team isnt good enough to execute KOCs designed plays. KOC is just really a poor play caller and designer. Darnold holds the ball forever, and falls apart.
Very poor coaching all around. Very poor effort by the players.
NFL refs saw the Lynx game and those refs and really wanted to outdo them huh?
Hearing you talk about Stephen Gilmore is giving me Chris Cook flashbacks. Dude always played out of phase and never even tried to locate the ball.
Steal 1 ? I don't think so, vikings couldn't score a td outside the 1st quarter. Rams D shut them.down to 2 fg....It is what it is.. Move on and get ready for the next one...
Most public bet was Vikings ML and Vikings spread. Vegas has full control over games like this. Hence the no calls on 3 of our 3rd down stops on defence and that facemask no call. Did we deserve to win? No. But I would love to see how it would have played out if it was fair.
Why can't the DBs play more physical at the line instead of a playing off. They have five yds to hit the receivers and give the Defensive lineman more time!!!!!! What is with the DCs that cant get this!!! Kevin Oconnel and his play calling is terrible!!!!!! This team will not go anywhere with these hardheaded coaches! Having said that, I believe the gambling industry has a firm hand on the NFL!!!!
It's all BS, he couldn't see Darnold's facemask fine. But just the way he was brought down should've told told him a lot, it was not a body tackle, the defender's arm was fully extended and clearly reaching in the helmet area and Darnold's body was blatantly yanked from his head back. A competent official would easily see that especially being so close to the play. If that's not enough, the ref on the other side of the endzone clearly DID have eyes on the facemask and also did not throw his flag. Why not just throw the flag while you figure out what happened? You can always decide to pick it up if it's decided no penalty actually occurred. These refs are consistently proving that they are not capable of making rhe right calls when they matter most. And considering 80% of the betting money was on the Vikings, coupled with the over/under at 48.5, or 48 in some books, it makes that no call look a hell of a lot worse and just feeds into the narrative that some of these games if not most or even all of them could be rigged. People are going to be calling for investigations if this keeps happening, with good cause.
Much like Darnold being QB in 2025 was put to bed in London, Flores being a head coach next year is past its bed time.
Stupid take
@@ryanb5099 nahhh, that's an obvious take.
@@MrTeetime no, it’s not. Y’all are making too much to do about nothing. I would love nothing more than for Flores to stay, I don’t want him to leave and be a head coach elsewhere. We’re not even halfway through the season and the defense has had 2 bad games…the majority of which falls on the players not the coach. Committing drive extending penalties is tough to overcome. Whoever thinks that Flores has no shot to be a head coach next year because of one game, is an idiot.
@@ryanb5099 One game? That defense has melted down in each and every game other than the Texans. They constantly pull vanishing acts. GB, Jets, Detroit, Rams.
@@MrTeetime 1st in interceptions, 3 in sacks, 6th in points allowed, 2nd in points scored. Beating teams 35-3 every week isn’t going to happen, and if that’s your metric for a successful defensive effort then you’re just unreasonable. We’re gonna be fine…and if I’m wrong, you can come back and say I told you so.
I felt like I saw very little effort from Gilmore when the ball wasnt coming his way, disappointed.
Excellent episode, Luke. Agree completely with how you analyzed the consequences of the bad call, and appreciate your logic and reasoning.
Biggest concern for B-Flo is not being able to get pressure with 4…sometimes you need to just “man up”…bad game for Pace, Gilmore and Hitmam…which tends to support the playing flat.
I believe the Vikings have historically played bad games coming out of the buy week…that compounded by a London Trip, a short week and back to back games that were intense (against division rival Super Bowl contenders and against the Rams that were literally playing for their season combined with the return of their two biggest offense weapons and the story of McVey against his pupil)…all that being said… the Vikings (especially the D) looked flat and low energy. Not overly concerned…self inflicted penalties were key and a half step away from several big opportunities. SKOL! CD injury was my biggest concern coming out of this game.
I agree on the job at the end, but the "booth" doesnt have the authority to call a penalty sadly...now the argument can be made they should have that ability, but the way the rules are currently written they cannot overturn a non-call.
There is more pressure in the back of my britches after eating baked beans, then what the vikings defense caused last night.
Who is behind you bro?
@@tonym2513 lol
3 pressures and 47 uncalled holding penalties by the rams oline.
Aren't all scoring plays supposed to be reviewed? Safeties give points so they are a scoring play. Why wasn't it reviewed?
They are reviewed to see if the score counts. Meaning ball crossed goal line, receiver got feet down in bounds etc. not reviewed to see if there was face mask or a holding call
@@bradm4493 when they do a review they will call penalties. They do it all the time
The Vikings are doing so much better than I anticipated, so I am super pleased with their current record and expect them to turn this around soon. I watched last night's game fully expecting them to score and tie the game. Maybe my rosy outlook is because I expected the team to be 1-6 right now, but I believe in the team more that I have in recent years. I am even okay with KOC getting a bit "pass-happy" and straying from the run at times and Flores' tendency to rely on the blitz. Fingers crossed.
Bad calls like we saw last night doesn't lend to the belief that the NFL has any integrity.
Fat l
When it comes to the eyes in the sky, a no-call is different than a called penalty. Once the eyes in the sky start calling penalties then you've opened pandora's box. Holding can be called on every play. Pass interference can be called on every play. Everything subjective would take us down a penal rabbit hole I don't want to go down.
Replay assist should not have assisted. Not in the rulebook to overturn facemask penalties. Said as such on the broadcast. Would be like reviewing touchdowns to see if there was a holding.
So glad I benched the Vikings D in fantasy. I thought with Kupp and Nacua in we would not do well and I was right. But which D can stop both of them plus Kyren Williams?
I share the thinking of "you gotta live with bad ref calls" for the most part, but I think this level of missed call transcends that whole argument. If a player can commit the most BLATANT penalty right in front of two referees and get away with it, and all we will get is a comment from the refs after the game saying "they couldn't see it clearly" and absolutely nothing else will come out of that, then who's to say the league can't and won't blatantly decide the outcome of games through bad refereeing since there is nothing anyone can do to refute them. This is the type of call that severely diminishes my enjoyment of the sport.
Is Pace having green dot these last 2 games part of the issue- making wrong/bad schedule calls and rotations on the LOS?
Leads to the argument that refs don't "call" the game, they control the game. If the ref doesn't make an obvious call right in their face what else don't they call to affect the outcome?
This team, organization just can't find those players that are hard...opposite of soft. This team just seems to be, in the end, just average. They aren't horrible, they aren't great, they are MID.
Thanks for your two cents
It wasn’t incompetence. The NFL wanted the Rams to win so refs officiated accordingly
I like all the fans are angry with a bad call, but I am more upset that this team was not playing well and were flat and not the ream that started the season. The rest of cc the NFL has figured out what you can do to deal with the defense. They have figured how make them look like a bad defense. Tge Offensive line is also looking ragged at best, and with #71 injured last night, I hope the best for him. So if the Staff of tge Vikings can't get the team up and ready for the games, they have to change the scheme on both sides of the ball because it's not working. As the season goes on, the injury monster seems to show up and that seems to happen much on this team in the middle of the season. Many of the top players try to get more to go the extra mile, and leads to injury. This is a decent team, but may make the playoffs, but there are better teams.
We now know that the Brian Flores D has been massively overhyped and now teams are finding ways to beat it.
They still had to go 90+ yards with no timeouts and be successful with a 2pt conversion
Darnold should have faked an injury. Refs sometimes announce they missed the call.
6 points the last 3 quarters this offense can’t get it done. Darnold is abysmal when pressured. Literally bottom 3 qb in the league when blitzed
Agree. He is either stupid, incompetent, lying or on the take. He does not need to be a referee.
If they reviewed the 3rd and 12 play to Kupp, wouldn’t that have been called a hip drop tackle?
Feels like the Lions and Packers play callers just end showing the nfl how to school the defense each year
Giving up a 28-7 lead to 6 points with 10 mintues felt like an alarm many wanted to ignore
Also that no facemask call does not change the game but a league that claims to care about player safety it not a good look
The face mask was egregious but let’s not act like the Vikings offense wasn’t held to two field goals in the second half of that game. To say the Vikings would drive 80 yards down field with 1:30 left on the clock score a td and a two point conversion to tie it up with no timeouts left is crazy. The Vikings hadn’t shown the ability to finish drives the entire second half of that game
I’m just confused. The face mask no call was blatant, but it’s not like you win the game if they make the call. You still have to go 80 yards
I’m sorry but when I saw that 90% of the money was on the Vikings, I pivoted and bet on the Rams. If you’re someone that doesn’t believe that sports are rigged, this is a prime example that it is. 90% OF THE MONEY ON THE VIKINGS.
Dude you're better than to even infer that there is some conspiracy. You're smarter than that man.
I agree with the play call that hurt Darrisaw.
He saw his head turn, can't see...lol He was 3 feet from it.
As a rams fan this was 100% a clear facemask but I feel no sympathy for the vikings. The rams had the same thing happen against the bears and not a word was said lol.
You shouldn't feel sympathy for a organization that hasn't gone to a SUPERBOWL in 50 years
Still down 8 with no timeouts needing to drive the entire field AND get 2 just to TIE. Horrible call, but not why the Vikings lost. They also missed holding in the end zone on the same play and a facemask on the Rams last drive. Better team won tonight. Vikings got manhandled on both lines of scrimmages.
First, every team gets horrific no calls.
If they saw it and flagged it, that still doesn’t tie the game. Queens still need to go 82 yards with no timeouts, score a tuddy and a 2pt conversion with no time just to get to overtime.
Stop acting like that call cost your team this game.
Lions have dealt with this for decades and nobody wanted to hear us cry.
SHUT UP FOOL!
The Vikings were not going to drive the whole field with no timeouts left and then get a 2 point conversion. Yes the refs screwed up.
I think betting money is corrupting some NFL officials. The NFL is ruining the game by embracing betting. It’s way too easy to pay an official under the table with bitcoin. People will stop watching if they think Gamblers are influencing the outcome. The only way the NFL can control it is allow reviews of referee calls AND non calls. Pass interference/defensive holding calls are way too inconsistent.
They had 2 huge bad calls on 3rd down we had them stopped and would have gotten the ball back.
This same play Fiske was getting held, no call. On the Rams last drive, Williams got a no call on a face mask that would of iced the game. This nonsense about a right to a chance is selective whining. The Vikes got out coached and out played.
The Lions need to return Flores' soul. Go Lions
Where is Dallas Turner? Is he a bust?
What if, the Vikings are trading for Matt Stafford and intentionally held back their pass rush for fear of injuring him
we were hosed
Gilmore is old, slow and always looks like he's just there for a paycheck.
Face it Vikings fans, the Vikings had no chance of winning that game, because nobody wins the following game after they play the Lions, nobody… 😉🤣
I'm just checking in to say I knew y'all was over-rated, 2 national TV games back to back and lay eggs
Welcome to lions world bad calls
We play fine the refs screw Mn sports again and Vegas made mad money
Blah blah blah blah fat L ! But yea that call was bad .
Rigged league
The refs have sucked for 30 yrs, so that's no excuse. This team is back to "hoping" this or that team loses, or that they have an easy schedule. They lost whatever they had in the 1st 3 games. Having 3 garbage drafts is why they're where they are, and now they have 1 real pick and a couple nothing picks next yr. They are in deep shit and are going to be there for a while.
Facemask penalties are one of the most dangerous things in the NFL…. any personal foul should be able to be called from the replay if the refs miss it… if they’re gonna make a hip tackle a foul out of “safety“ they sure as heck should be able to generate flags from the replay booth on things as flagrant and dangerous as facemasks if they truly want to put it into it… I think what makes this so infuriating is that it was a flagrant in the sense that he didn’t just grab it and let go. He literally pulled him to the ground by his face mask.
There really needs to be a rule change, allowing replay to overturn an obvious bad call or when one has been missed. In this case, would have been very quick and easy for replay to intervene and point out the obvious face mask. The Vikings totally got hosed on that one.