Water mixable oil paints review of Daler Rowney Georgian paint and comparison to Winsor and Newton
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- Опубліковано 18 жов 2024
- A review of Daler Rowney Georgian water mixable oil paint and comparison to Winsor and Newton Artisan oils. I preferred the Georgian oil paints which I have linked below. Painted on cardboard with a gesso primer.
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Fantastic thorough review! I'll definitely be getting myself a set of these!
Thanks for watching Phil, glad you liked it. Enjoy your painting 🙂🎨
Smaaaart idea using the plastic box. Gives me a reason to buy chocolate!
Thanks, I don't need an excuse 🤣🍫
It’s worth remembering that Artisan is artist grade and DR Georgian is student grade. That’s why your Artisan is thicker - it has less fillers and more pigment of higher quality.
Yes, good point.
Thanks for watching Kyomii. As the water mixable oils are a very new concept I wasn't sure of the definition. Daler clearly say they are a student quality, however there is no clear labelling on the Artisan. The binders are going to be very different to the conventional oil binders because of the "emulsion" that makes them water mixable. I still would say I much prefer the Georgian and there is certainly plenty of pigment in them even if they are classed as student. Thanks for your feedback 🙂🎨
Cally Lawson Hi Cally, all water mixable oils are exactly the same as traditional oils except for an additive (not a binder) that is used to make them water mixable. You can buy a similar additive on the retail market and add it to any traditional oil paint to make them water mixable if you wish. It’s called “medium W” and is made by Schmincke. Artisan are artist grade and will probably have better lightfast ratings, and most definitely better pigments and less binders. Student vs artist grade is personal choice, for me it’s a no brainer because I want all my work to be as archival as possible for personal reasons.
Thanks for the info Kyomii. Of course the paint you work with is very much a personal preference. How archival a paint is, as you know different for each colour and depends on the type of pigment not the quantity used. I.e. the same pigment in student quality if it has the same type of pigment can be as archival but you may need to build up more layers for the same depth of colour. Many Artists use a mix of brands and quality types in order to find the colour palette that works best for them. As far a how archival a paint is, you need to check each colour individually.
@@Kyomiibrown thanks i didnt know that artisan means artistic quality i thought it was for students
Thank you so much for doing this. I just started trying out the W&N Artisan brand. I was an oil painter and decided to try water soluble. Figured W*N was a good brand. I have been sooooo disappointed in them. For the very reasons you discovered. I will buy a set of the Georgian ones to try because i also have asthma. Thank you so much again!!! Phyllis
Glad it was helpful!
I kept the same chocolate box for a palette. I knew it was a good idea. 💖
I use both Daler Rowney and Winsor and Newton white and zinc water mixable oil
Im painting with Georgian, they are very good paints. Very good pigmentation, mixes well, very pleasure consistence. I use just a little
bitt artisan tinner to block in and medium to do the paint fatter in the next leyers. I have some Artisans, pigmentation is the same in tests. So Im prefer georgian, good paint for very good price.
Hi Sigita, thanks for watching. I completely agree, I think the Georgian's are great quality, especially for the price 😀🎨
I have ordered these, some say do not use water for the water based oils which defeats the purpose of them. They said use oil based mediums lol. Thanks for the video.
Thanks for watching. The main purpose of them being water soluble is being able to rinse your brushes without using solvents. You can use mediums like linseed oil with them if you like. It's really nice not having the smell of the solvents. Just keep in mind that if you use too much water the colours will be diluted and not as vibrant. Stick to thick layers over thin layers to avoid cracking. Enjoy your new paints 🙂
great that you have found a better product to work with, thanks for the video cally
Thanks for watching Ian 🙂🎨
Thank you so much for sharing!
I just painted a portrait using these georgian WMO. Of course, I am still wondering, if I had used traditional oils (especially some of the nicer brands, including winsor and newton) how different the painting would look... I was surpised to hear that in this video you approved these paints, as I would've automatically assumed that Winsor and Newton would be a more quality brand.
Thanks for watching, glad you liked it. I think paint choice is a personal thing depending on your style and technique. I still much prefer the Georgian. Enjoy your painting 🙂
Thank you, Cally! I am starting with WN Artisan, 14 colors, and so excited. I bought a very cheap trio of oils with black and white and got hooked! If by the end of the vid, I may go with some Georgian, but I think the WN blue is more to my liking...need to watch, will come back if you do oil videos. I need to look and see if you have
Paint choice is a personal thing and depends on your style, colours you like etc. I am sure you will enjoy using your Artisans and you can add a little linseed oil to them to make them easier to work with. Most of all it is nice being able to clean your brushes in water and have no solvents 😀 Thanks for watching, I will try and do more oil videos soon.
@@CallyLawson I did get to buy Daniel Smith water mixable Linseed, and Fast-Dry mediums, also I could not resist trying Artisan stand oil. I really went all the way in my investment, but very happy that I have.
Oh wow, I didn't know DR did these, I bought the Artisans when they first came out, but didn't like them very much (issues with clogginess being one of the problems), so I use normal oils, without solvents (I just clean with linseed oil and washing up liquid, a slower process, but does the trick). I have placed an order for the DR set and am looking forward to giving the Georgians a try - thanks for this! :)
Thanks for watching. I am sure you will prefer these when they arrive. Enjoy your painting 🎨🙂
I just invested in a full mixing set w sap green and diox purple, of the WN Artisans. I began with the cheapest oil paaint on the marrket, so I am sure to enjoy anything better, lol. I did 3 5x7 and was hooked! I want easy cleanup and no breathing odorless MS for hours. I have a sore throat-gah I need that paint now!! hahaha!
Hi, I really like the purple, try mixing it with burnt sienna, you can get some lovely warm dark colours that way! Have fun with your new paints 😀
I have not tried the georgian but i have the artisan brand and used it straight from the tube. I found it to be thick and difficult to manipulate until i used the water mixable linseed oil.
Yes, I agree, it is thick, certain colours are worse than others. Thanks for watching 🙂
Oh Heck Yeah! Outstanding and glad you're responsive to your viewer comments:) I'm hooked. I hope I didn't miss, but what about price difference? Subscriber from NW Florida.
Hi, thanks for watching and for subscribing, much appreciated 😊 The price here in the UK is very similar, no difference really, although prices for each colour vary slightly. I am not sure if that is the same in the US.
Hi, I have just brought the dowler rowney water mixable geogrian oil paints, what oil medium did you use. Annette Ramsey.
Hi, thanks for watching. I use a tiny amount of linseed oil with my water mixable oil paints.
I am looking for a range of water mixable oil colors so I do not have to use my regular oil colors because of the salvents. Nice video. Love Terri Simmers.
Thanks for watching Terri, glad you liked it. Enjoy your new paints when you get them 🙂
Great video! are them both glossy? any of them is more satin or matte finish?
Hi Andre, thanks for watching. They are quite similar. However, I would say that the Georgian is slightly more matt. Neither are too glossy without the addition of linseed oil, which gives a nice gloss. If you prefer a satin or matt finish I would recommend a varnish, I use a matt spray varnish.
I use walnut oil for a medium.
I'm very new to all of this, but was a bit freaked out when I read tonight that Daler Rowney Simply paint flakes off after 6 months...is that true??....and, hopefully the Georgian does not flake? Also a quick question, Is there a bit of paint snobbery out there?
Hi, thanks for watching. I have paintings from much longer than 6 months ago using the Georgian and it has not flaked at all. I always varnish my paintings. Yes, I definitely think there is some snobbery and some ingrained ideas that go back centuries and haven't taken into account new technologies and developments.
I’ve used Georgian (traditional oil) paints for over 20 years and have never had flaking. I’d say the surface wasn’t primed properly
Thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching!
I received DR Simply as a gift but I can't get around using them because I don't have mediums, pallets, paper. I tried them dry and they are difficult to work with.
Thanks for watching, I hope that you get the chance to enjoy using your paints in the future. You don't need any special mediums, just a tiny bit of linseed oil will make them more workable.
can one work at the same time with watermixable oil color and normal oil color ?
Hi Else, thanks for watching. Yes, you can use them together. If you use a small amount of traditional oils, you can even still wash your brushes in water. However if you use a higher ratio of traditional oils to water mixable oils, you will need to clean your brushes with solvents. If you are switching from traditional to water mixable, a good way to use them up is to mix in a just small amount each time.
I don't like the drag of the Artisans. Globs on the brush. Also the Burnt Sienna is just too dark, cool, and muddy. Looking to find another brand. Thanks for this confirmation of Artisan, but might look into Lukas or RT as Georgian are student grade.
Hi, thanks for watching. I am going to give the Holbein paints a try, when I can afford some. Don't be put off by the Georgian being student grade, they have plenty of pigment and a nice range of colours.
I've just started using the DR water soluble oils and they have a fishy smell I really don't like. Its my first time using oil paints so is this smell normal?
Yes, I don't think the smell is that strong compared to some other paints. I use linseed oil with mine, so that smell tends to mask it. Thanks for watching.
Thankyou really helpful.
Thanks for watching, glad you found it useful 🙂🎨
How does glazes work with the water mixable paints?
Hi, thanks for watching. Do you mean a glaze of another colour? Or are you referring to varnishes? In either case, the same techniques apply as with traditional oils. Remember the thick over thin rule to avoid cracking. Like all oils you must wait several weeks or more to make sure they dry before applying a varnish.
@@CallyLawson Thankyou for such a swift reply -given time I will have a look at all your videos yours with many thanks Duane
Hi cally thank you...I used before cobra by royal talens....horrible...now using artisan ....it's good....Want to try georgian....but I dislike the red
Thanks for watching. We all have colours we dislike or prefer. Best to buy individual colours and make up your own palette, which can include a variety of brands.
I recently bought some oil paints and i’m brand new to this medium, I find the oil paints to be very thick and very hard to blend , would you recommend any thinners if there is ? or would it be better for me to just buy some better quality oil paints.
Hi Orla, thanks for watching. It is difficult for me to answer without knowing the brand and just how thick they are. There are a variety of mediums that you can add to oils. Some make them more workable, some make them quicker drying etc. I would suggest using a simple white spirit brush cleaning thinner and having a play with that and see how it goes. Linseed oil is also nice, however it increases the drying time a lot! Different manufacturers have their own ranges of media to work with their oil paints, so it would be worth googling the brand you have, to see what is reccomended. I hope that helps.
Cally Lawson Thank you so much Cally !! will definitely look into this
Idk why but for the Georgian oils I use at school won't mix with the water. Super weird.
Georgian also has a range of traditional oil paints. If they’re water I’m able it will say so on the tube, if not you need solvent or oil
I've never used water-mixable oils, but maybe the thicker paint has more pigment in?
Thanks for watching Fabrizio. Yes I agree, maybe it has (although the Daler appears to be well pigmented too) and it is good to have a thick paint and nice to work with a palette knife. It's not really the thickness that I don't like with the Artisan, more that it's very clingy and sticky and requires working more when mixing.
I loved the consistency of the georgian paints but the color selection is awful. They dont have single decent lightfast yellow.
Yes I agree, they do need to expand the colour range. The yellows are also the slowest to dry. Thanks for watching 🙂