That was pretty much what the original Dr.strange was like, at one point he was like one of marvels strongest characters, had any power he needed when he needed it through what ever spell he used at the time. Marvel realized this was a bit daft so toned him down.
Doctor fate is usually used as a deus ex machina in DC, it’s just a matter of how much effort or will nabu has to exert, or what Kent has to sacrifice to become Dr fate.
@@Raximus3000 I don't think so, given the fact that his primary knowledge base is Marvel. I'm a huge fan of DC and know a lot about it. However my knowledge of Marvel wasn't nearly as extensive until I found Rob forever ago. So I must respectfully disagree.
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*For the "What If" fight between Dr Strange & Dr Fate, I'd also give it to Dr Fate. Here's my main reason as to why: Fate has the advantage of casting most/all of his spells non-verbally, while many of Strange's required specific hand movements, incantations & the cooperations of many deities/mystical beings. Ex: Dr Strange's most common binding spell "The Crimson Bands of Cyttorak", which can be found in chapter 53 of the Book of the Ancient Scrolls. Stephen is seen making the "rock on" hand gesture whenever he does this spell & in addition to this, he needs the permission of Cyttorak himself to use this piece of his power. Think of it like this, Strange was a man borrowing the powers of a god(s), while Fate's a god borrowing a man. Sometimes the god(s) i.e the vishanti can say: "NO POWWWA FOR YOU!"
Dr Fate being able to go toe to toe with Superman is Epic and why Dr Fates one of my fav characters. Superman being able to go toe to toe against Dr Fate who can use Magic powerful enough to battle the likes of Specter and Chaos etc is just as Epic.
I think both Dr. Fate and Strange tend to be able to pull out high level magic feats pretty evenly depending on the story, but Strange does tend to have a specific limitation Dr. Fate tends to ignore quite a lot, which, save for some high level stuff that tends to require charging, Dr. Fate has literally no "Cast time" for pretty much almost all his spells in most of his story's. Strange has to recite the the bands, or yell about bolts of bedevilment, or summon the peppermint york of the patties, while Dr. Fate just tends to blast, throw you into another dimension or simply just punch you with his superhuman strength, with the only things he's saying is how much he's going to kick your butt for what infringement against order you just did. Some of his bigger spells he has to paint some symbols in the air, or mention this or that but its always the high level stuff. So Strange tends to lose based on cast time. As far as a skill stand point, I still think Dr. Fate tends to win, but you gotta give Strange the leg up on "outside the box thinking." While Fate is definitely capable of thinking somewhat chaotically, he's still a lord of order, while Strange very much prides himself on understanding the insanity that tends to come with magic and just roll with it, which tends to give him an edge in problem solving and variation. Its why so often Strange doesn't physically beat his higher level opponents like Memphisto or Sattanish (I'm not gonna look up the spelling of those guys XD) but instead tends to trick them into their own defeat, which works really well when your fighting someone like Nightmare who literally just pulls the reality rug out from under you. Though it would be hilarious to see Nightmare try Dr. Fate and he just punches him in the face in his disembodied gloves and helmet mode, cause when was the last time a sentient helmet slept.
Listen hear me out. Fate does his bidding mostly based on what the lords of order tell him to do, Strange doesn't have that thus he is not bound to someone who tells him what he can and can't do. Plus Strange will do anything to win, plus Strange now was stripped of 70% of his power and he is still crazy powerful. Knock off the Helmet he ain't doing much. Yeah let's say for instance the Lord's gave Fate all of their combined power to stop Strange then he will lose. But think of it like this Strange could have both the power of the Lord's of Order and some or all of the power of the Lord's of Chaos to get the upper hand. Fate is is similar to a robot following orders and has to get updated to go with a new set of directives where as Strange doesn't. Granted he is weaker because he lost some of his power but any entity he can call upon to get an absurd amount of power is where they differ. Any means necessary vs By the book.
A common issue with DC is that they underuse a lot of their superheroes severely it’s always focus on Batman, Flash, Superman, green lantern and Wonder Woman. They seem like the only superheroes with fleshed out rogues galleries, they just gotta use their heroes more especially ones like Doctor Fate. Doctor Strange is a blatant rip off of doctor fate and I feel like if doctor strange were to be used more outside of the comics he’d be just as popular or if not more popular than doctor strange.
Crazy coincidence but I just finished reading the 2nd volume of JLA dark today! Doctor fate is pretty awesome. I like the Order and Chaos paradigm he works under. One of my favorite characters currently.
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I never really read much Dr Fate stuff when I was a kid back in the 60-70's. That being said, I always thought he had a truly epic helm. When I saw Pierce Brosnin unveiled in the trailers I knew they had found the perfect actor to play him. Haven't seen Black Adam yet, but man - I can't wait
They are both capable of insane magical feats.. both are capable of time manipulation.. both are capable of all the same stuff except raw speed and power. Strange needs to absorb entities and do all kinds of crazy stuff to greatly enhance his durability and raw strength.. Fate just shows up ready to go. I see it being a brutal pummeling rather than a battle of magic at the end of the day. Can only throw each other through but so many dimensions and swiss cheese each other but so many times before stuff comes to physical blows.. xD I like Strange more at the end of the day, but it is what it is. He would get his ass beat.. realllly bad.
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@@jamesmayle3787 hahaha the Bible is a book of lies used to inslave the gullible and weak minded. That one book has caused for more bad throughout history than good & it continues to do so..Wars, death..etc. It corrupts the mind, body & soul. The world is always growing and evolving for the better but you religious nuts want to try & stop that. One day you'll ask for forgiveness from us for blindly judging your fellow man & we will forgive you not cause we think we have to but cause we are open minded, accepting of who people are and we're respectful of those who admit THEIR sins.
Another thing is the fact that if he’s all powerful like this there will be no DC movie with his involvement on purpose, the fact that he’s in the latest movie tells us immediately he will be powered down just like strange.
I would love to see some character comparison videos between similar Marvel and DC characters! Like Namor/Aquaman or Mr Fantastic/Plastic Man for example. Not necessarily who would win in a fight but just talking about their similarities and differences.
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I mean now he is , Strange got nerfed like 30 times xD. Also telling me Fate stalemated Superman is like telling me Blastoise Stalemated Charizard . Like sure...kind of a type advantage but sure.
Okay, but what I wanna know is, how powerful would Dr Strange be, wearing the Artifacts of Fate (Helmet, Amulet and Cloak), considering he's already the Sorcerer Supreme of the Marvel Universe.
Strange is more intelligent and knows how to best use whatever magical artifacts he's given access to. My guess is he would likely become even more powerful than Dr Fate.
That exist. There is an amalgam comic series that is called Dr Strangefate. It's the same series Darkclaw is from(batman x Wolverine) Marvel and DC had huge Crossover and a mixed universe in the 90's
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I think that pushing forward the assumption that Dr. Fate's powers and supernatural might can match, if not surpasses even The Presence Himself is a *major* misunderstanding of the DC Multiverse cosmology. Nobody is more powerful than The Presence. The Presence is The Source. The Source is God, and from God has been begotten all matter, energy, thought and concept within the DC Multiverse-- which includes Hecate, the wellspring of all Magic within the Multiverse as well as the reason why the Lords of Order (who bestowed their powers to Dr. Fate) exists, to begin with! Telling that Dr. Fate can surpasses His own Maker equates to say that Sauron can equates Tom Bombadil. Or the likes of Scarlet Witch and the Phoenix Force the One-Above-All. Or Son Wukong/Monkey-King Buddha and the Jade Emperor. Or Sailor Moon at her Sailor Universe form to... whatever created her Universe, to begin with.
@@jojoalcide377 huh?? Dr strange most powerful spells (even some that are that powerful) requires him to invoke certain entities...Dr Fate doesn't have that same limitation bc Nabu is THAT entity.
@@RLSmith-jt8qj Indeed, same here. Have though of What If appeared now (well when though of it was during New 52 and All New All Diff Marvel). Or What if Warp World merged with something like DC Eath 32.
I always found the battle between strange and fate as to who's stronger to be a bit off, both have versions that are so ridiculously OP and are probably close to each other in power.
That is a fun hypothetical. I’d say it’d come down to which universe they were in. I think of marvel like electro in Spider-Man and like to think chaos magic would work respective to the universe and home team has the advantage lol
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ooooh good question! Personally, i think Scarlet Witch would need a HUGE power boost to even stand in the same room as Nabu (like House of M for example) Nabu's counter-magic could easily break most of what Scarlet Witch can do by simply unraveling the spells with his own will, but from what i understand he can still be overpowered if the enemy caster has a stronger will/power source
Dr fate beat classic dr strange ! Dr fate nabu Is the God of order ! He Is infinity time more powerfull than any dr strange form ! Dr fate nabu beat the Spectre the DC comics living tribunale , classic dr fate Is Omniversal level being!!
I'd say, that depends on which version of Dr. Strange we're talking about. 1970's and 80's strange was damn OP, he was an actual plot device for Marvel comics.
Love Doctor fate. For me, I got to experience his awesomeness from Young Justice season 1. I’d seen Justice League Unlimited and later played Injustice 2 but YJ season 1 is what made me love the character.
Didnt Dr Fate survive crisis on infinite earths? Wasn't he one of the few being's to remain intacts after that event at full power? The only other being that i believe survived that crisis at full power was darkseid right?
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Respectfully your wisdom, knowledge and experience but Dr Fate (wholistically) but I noticed reference of long time reference to Dr Fate over the decades/artists/writers, which given the multiverse series of event, can we say that Dr. Fate is all the same capability/person? Maybe limiting it to a universe version might be a better comparison? As if one version of Dr. Fate another versus another universe of Dr. Fate might be a stalemate, if they are all equal. One man's greatness might be another man evilness.
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Seems like you're a couple years too late from when Death Battle did Dr Strange vs Dr Fate. Would like to see you do a Beyond Omega Level video on Cosmic Fear Garou just based on how powerful he could become if placed in other verses
Doctor Fate has proven he's more powerful than Doctor Strange. The JSA member has demonstrated his skill is above anything the Avenger can do. DC Comics' Doctor Fate has proven he's more powerful than Marvel's Sorcerer Supreme, Doctor Strange.
I would love to see a video of Dr. fate versus Doctor Strange because most of the powers that you mentioned Dr. fate has Doctor Strange at his most powerful can do as well
Yeah but that's the thing u say Dr Strange AT HIS MOST POWERFUL can match Dr Fate...But Dr Fate can simply be in base form alone to match up against the most powerful form of Dr Strange
Dr. Fate vs Dr. Strange sounds like it would be a perfect video for some sort exclusive content you could get from a third party platform for a nominal monthly fee.
Using Spectre as a gauge is pretty rough since he's always getting owned almost as much Blackbolt. Current Fate v current Strange? Current Fate easy. Classic Fate v classic Strange? Classic Strange easy.
...Wasn't Fate/Nabu and his "siblings" greatly reduced in the JL Dark comic where magic is quite frankly accepted as made up rules and energy from another dimension?
I say Strange is more powerful. I will say that I'm talking Strange at the height of his power. I'm also picking Strange as the winner, because Strange isn't in conflict with himself like Fate can be. Sometimes Nabu and his host come in conflict, and that alone could cause a loss for him.
Whatever you just commented doesn't make sense. While it's trur Dr Fate can get rough with his hosts, Most of the time especially in battle he is in control. Remember Dr Strange is a human being borrowing the powers of godlike beings. Dr Fate is a god borrowing a human.
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Just wondering... Have you read any Manhwa Comics like Solo Leveling, Omniscient Reader, The Beginning After the End, etc.? If so, what do you think about them?
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The most important thing to remember about Fate is that he's basically as strong as the writer needs him to be at any given time. Does the writer need a power house that can hold off even the strongest foe while other stuff happens? Fate can do that. Does the writer need a character to act as the chess master to help put everyone into place so they can overcome seemingly insurmountable odds? Fate can do that too. But, the flip side is also true. Does the writer need a seemingly strong, semi-well known character to job in a fight to make another character look strong? Well.. yeah, Fate can do that. Fate has been one of the strongest gods of the DC multiverse, and also weak enough for a random mook in Salem to knock off the helmet, and everywhere in between. It all depends on what role the writer needs him to fulfill.
Thank you for the series of videos you did on Doctor Fate. I'm about to watch the death battle between him and Strange now and my prediction is the same as yours
Yeah it'd be Doctor fate easy for one reason those are HIS powers where as Dr. Strange has to borrow the power from other beings granted these beings giving him a portion of their powers makes him no joke but strange is still a guy asking for the power
Hickman made a cheeky move in Time Runs Out, where he basically had Avengers face a group of heroes from a different universe, who were "Not Justice League due to copyright issues, but totally Justice League". Among them was a magician who relied on relics to draw his magic from (intended to be Dr. Fate). Strange kind of ridiculed him for being a second rate charlatan, who possessed no true magical power of his own, before he pretty much wiped them all out.
The Spectre lost his luster a long time ago. For as powerful as he's supposed to be there sure are a lot of beings out there that can match or trump him when the plot requires it.
I would say they are evenly matched as far as their character is in their own respective universes(DC/Marvel). But on the outside looking in Dr. Fate would have an extremely hard time with Dr. Strange because of Dr. Strange ability to absorb and use an adversaries magic against them. If Dr. Strange needs a learning curve to fully know the magic of Dr. Fate then Dr. Fate may have an advantage if it came to these magical juggernauts. Being that both a mystics of magic and have been trained by the ones that came before them I would think they would never be invovled in a voluntary fight. Thanks Rob for an interesting analysis.
I would have to Agree with your Opinion, Dr Fate IS More Powerful. Although, I would Love to see a Movie come out soon, ie. Dr. Fate (who would be the Best actor, hmmm).
Marvel already shown why Dr Strange is more powerful when Dr Strange faced off against Marvel's version of Dr. Fate and killed him. Dr Strange even narrated in detail to that version of Dr Fate why he was superior before he killed him.
Marvels version of dr fate is dr strange lol 😆 dr strange is a copy of dr fate my dude , dr fate created in 1940s he’s the original he has more history dr strange was created 20 years after him 1960s
@@niceandflyy 🤦🏾 I don't care which sorcerer came first you're trying to change the topic to something it isn't about. Both companies copy each other. Superman is copy of Philip Wylie character which came years before superman and Siegel who created superman read Philip Wylie books so you know be copied him. Clearly you rarely read comics if at all. Arguing with newbies who mostly watch youtube videos and regurgitate what they hear is 🤦🏾 . You tell them facts from the comic they still want to argue. The dude even look like Dr fate smh 🤦🏾 had the exact same powers as Dr fate. Costume like Dr fate. You still want to argue. Dr Strange then proceeds to give point by point differences between them before killing him. Don't bother responding I'm not reading it.
So basically Dr. Fate has all the powers that any particular writer gives him at any particular point.
Pretty much.
I mean, that happens with every Magic User in comics, honestly
that's pretty much the case with every hero in the comics
mhm..
That was pretty much what the original Dr.strange was like, at one point he was like one of marvels strongest characters, had any power he needed when he needed it through what ever spell he used at the time. Marvel realized this was a bit daft so toned him down.
I really enjoyed having the powers discussed via specific examples
Dr. Fate is stronger because he wears a helmet therefore, he can go onto construction sites safely as well as being safe free m other flying objects.
Thank you, Mr. Gooch.
And a cape so that makes him stronger too especially on all the construction sites and definitely poses no risk or tripping hazard whatsoever
Only Strange can take it off.
@@ZeusEBoy Sarcasm?
Word to OHSA
Doctor fate is usually used as a deus ex machina in DC, it’s just a matter of how much effort or will nabu has to exert, or what Kent has to sacrifice to become Dr fate.
Not only Doctor Fate, every magical user in comics is a deus ex machina.
There is always a spell writers can create.
@@djkleb7645 same can be said for any Tech characters just inventing world changing stuff and forgetting about it 5 seconds later
@@djkleb7645 that's why I usually don't care for magic characters
Beyond Omega Level: Popeye the Sailor Man
Awesome suggestion. I wouldn't have thought of that.
He is though😂
He is strong 💪 to the finish!!
Indeed
He took out Robin Williams. Sadly, he’s not Omega.
Doctor Fate sounds very similar to Doctor Manhattan in terms of how ridiculously powerful he is.
He can par with manhattan
Dr Manhattan became a literal god in the end though
"It's Faten' time" - Doctor Fate
But can Dr. FATE beat Dr. Strange who summons Batman with prep time? 🤔
Lmfao!!!
Lol
Lml but realistically dr strange don’t even know about bat man. So can dr.fate summon Batman with prep time is the real question
Strange claps him if batman is there with prep 🤣
no
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He is a DC fanboy?
@@Raximus3000 I don't think so, given the fact that his primary knowledge base is Marvel. I'm a huge fan of DC and know a lot about it. However my knowledge of Marvel wasn't nearly as extensive until I found Rob forever ago. So I must respectfully disagree.
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I've always wanted a team up of Doctor Fate and Dr. Strange. They could go up against the Lords of Chaos and Dormmamu, possibly.
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Why's it always gotta be dormamu
@@lacikirk4215 He was the first character I thought of. Shuma -Gorath would be good, too.
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*For the "What If" fight between Dr Strange & Dr Fate, I'd also give it to Dr Fate. Here's my main reason as to why: Fate has the advantage of casting most/all of his spells non-verbally, while many of Strange's required specific hand movements, incantations & the cooperations of many deities/mystical beings. Ex: Dr Strange's most common binding spell "The Crimson Bands of Cyttorak", which can be found in chapter 53 of the Book of the Ancient Scrolls. Stephen is seen making the "rock on" hand gesture whenever he does this spell & in addition to this, he needs the permission of Cyttorak himself to use this piece of his power. Think of it like this, Strange was a man borrowing the powers of a god(s), while Fate's a god borrowing a man. Sometimes the god(s) i.e the vishanti can say: "NO POWWWA FOR YOU!"
You copied this nearly word for word from Screw Attack's Deathbattle.
I agree that's the difference
Dr Fate being able to go toe to toe with Superman is Epic and why Dr Fates one of my fav characters.
Superman being able to go toe to toe against Dr Fate who can use Magic powerful enough to battle the likes of Specter and Chaos etc is just as Epic.
Dr FATE can literally turn himself into SUPERMAN, Literally!
Literally?
@@Acularis i said " literally "
preach lol no joke
@@DangeistYT are you literally sure?
@@Acularis bro i read comics to make a living.
I think both Dr. Fate and Strange tend to be able to pull out high level magic feats pretty evenly depending on the story, but Strange does tend to have a specific limitation Dr. Fate tends to ignore quite a lot, which, save for some high level stuff that tends to require charging, Dr. Fate has literally no "Cast time" for pretty much almost all his spells in most of his story's.
Strange has to recite the the bands, or yell about bolts of bedevilment, or summon the peppermint york of the patties, while Dr. Fate just tends to blast, throw you into another dimension or simply just punch you with his superhuman strength, with the only things he's saying is how much he's going to kick your butt for what infringement against order you just did. Some of his bigger spells he has to paint some symbols in the air, or mention this or that but its always the high level stuff. So Strange tends to lose based on cast time. As far as a skill stand point, I still think Dr. Fate tends to win, but you gotta give Strange the leg up on "outside the box thinking." While Fate is definitely capable of thinking somewhat chaotically, he's still a lord of order, while Strange very much prides himself on understanding the insanity that tends to come with magic and just roll with it, which tends to give him an edge in problem solving and variation. Its why so often Strange doesn't physically beat his higher level opponents like Memphisto or Sattanish (I'm not gonna look up the spelling of those guys XD) but instead tends to trick them into their own defeat, which works really well when your fighting someone like Nightmare who literally just pulls the reality rug out from under you.
Though it would be hilarious to see Nightmare try Dr. Fate and he just punches him in the face in his disembodied gloves and helmet mode, cause when was the last time a sentient helmet slept.
Listen hear me out. Fate does his bidding mostly based on what the lords of order tell him to do, Strange doesn't have that thus he is not bound to someone who tells him what he can and can't do. Plus Strange will do anything to win, plus Strange now was stripped of 70% of his power and he is still crazy powerful. Knock off the Helmet he ain't doing much. Yeah let's say for instance the Lord's gave Fate all of their combined power to stop Strange then he will lose. But think of it like this Strange could have both the power of the Lord's of Order and some or all of the power of the Lord's of Chaos to get the upper hand. Fate is is similar to a robot following orders and has to get updated to go with a new set of directives where as Strange doesn't. Granted he is weaker because he lost some of his power but any entity he can call upon to get an absurd amount of power is where they differ. Any means necessary vs By the book.
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We need more Doctor Fate stories animated in DC content honestly he’s just too sick
A common issue with DC is that they underuse a lot of their superheroes severely it’s always focus on Batman, Flash, Superman, green lantern and Wonder Woman. They seem like the only superheroes with fleshed out rogues galleries, they just gotta use their heroes more especially ones like Doctor Fate. Doctor Strange is a blatant rip off of doctor fate and I feel like if doctor strange were to be used more outside of the comics he’d be just as popular or if not more popular than doctor strange.
@@batmangummies5393 him and martian manhunter i rarely see their true power
Crazy coincidence but I just finished reading the 2nd volume of JLA dark today! Doctor fate is pretty awesome. I like the Order and Chaos paradigm he works under. One of my favorite characters currently.
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I never really read much Dr Fate stuff when I was a kid back in the 60-70's. That being said, I always thought he had a truly epic helm. When I saw Pierce Brosnin unveiled in the trailers I knew they had found the perfect actor to play him. Haven't seen Black Adam yet, but man - I can't wait
Loved Black Adam, but sad face for Dr Fate :(
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They are both capable of insane magical feats.. both are capable of time manipulation.. both are capable of all the same stuff except raw speed and power. Strange needs to absorb entities and do all kinds of crazy stuff to greatly enhance his durability and raw strength.. Fate just shows up ready to go.
I see it being a brutal pummeling rather than a battle of magic at the end of the day. Can only throw each other through but so many dimensions and swiss cheese each other but so many times before stuff comes to physical blows.. xD I like Strange more at the end of the day, but it is what it is. He would get his ass beat.. realllly bad.
So? Fate has to merge with other beings to achieve his final form.
@urusledge Yeah...he merged with Nabu, and they took out many Lords of order and chaos at the same time💀.
i like strange a lot more lol
but in a vs battle hands down I'll pick fate
that says a lot. i should check out a strange tpb sometime tho. if you have a good rec?
I'm more hype to Dr. Fate then Black Adam in the new movie tbh
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Same bro I was excited for black Adam but seeing fate in the trailers took me back to childhood excitement so I’m ready
I'm excited for all of them,but it's sad that their going to have to nerf Fate
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Awesome! THAT'S the video on Dr. Fate I wanted! Insane power levels, very cool.
Thanks, great stuff!
Another thing is the fact that if he’s all powerful like this there will be no DC movie with his involvement on purpose, the fact that he’s in the latest movie tells us immediately he will be powered down just like strange.
Not really looks like he’s just gonna hang back
I would love to see some character comparison videos between similar Marvel and DC characters! Like Namor/Aquaman or Mr Fantastic/Plastic Man for example. Not necessarily who would win in a fight but just talking about their similarities and differences.
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I mean now he is , Strange got nerfed like 30 times xD. Also telling me Fate stalemated Superman is like telling me Blastoise Stalemated Charizard . Like sure...kind of a type advantage but sure.
Okay, but what I wanna know is, how powerful would Dr Strange be, wearing the Artifacts of Fate (Helmet, Amulet and Cloak), considering he's already the Sorcerer Supreme of the Marvel Universe.
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Strange is more intelligent and knows how to best use whatever magical artifacts he's given access to. My guess is he would likely become even more powerful than Dr Fate.
That exist. There is an amalgam comic series that is called Dr Strangefate. It's the same series Darkclaw is from(batman x Wolverine) Marvel and DC had huge Crossover and a mixed universe in the 90's
@@BiggestDoucheEver yeah, except Dr Strangefate turned out to be Professor Xavier under the helmet.
@@DeathBYDesign666 Nabu literally can negate the magic elements so I dont really think that is much easier to be stated as a fact
So basically, in the Black Adam movie if Dr. Fate gets pissed and needs to forcefully subdue black Adam he should be able to right?
Beyond Omega Level The Spectre merged with Nabu's helmet
His matter and reality warping is crazy powerful. He’s literally almost omnipotent. He could destroy the multiverse.
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He can basically do anything that the plot needs him to be.
He got outsmarted by Constantine inside his own helmet and killed by a low level demon ,so he is just a dumb powerful god
@@oluwadamilola6233 yea but he has some really powerful version of himself tho.
@@garymcguire9006 i was talking about NABU who is pretty much the entity Dr fate. He is the powerful version
I think that pushing forward the assumption that Dr. Fate's powers and supernatural might can match, if not surpasses even The Presence Himself is a *major* misunderstanding of the DC Multiverse cosmology.
Nobody is more powerful than The Presence. The Presence is The Source. The Source is God, and from God has been begotten all matter, energy, thought and concept within the DC Multiverse-- which includes Hecate, the wellspring of all Magic within the Multiverse as well as the reason why the Lords of Order (who bestowed their powers to Dr. Fate) exists, to begin with!
Telling that Dr. Fate can surpasses His own Maker equates to say that Sauron can equates Tom Bombadil. Or the likes of Scarlet Witch and the Phoenix Force the One-Above-All. Or Son Wukong/Monkey-King Buddha and the Jade Emperor.
Or Sailor Moon at her Sailor Universe form to... whatever created her Universe, to begin with.
lol at fate being above Presence all lords of order and chaos are nothing compared to just the spectre
@@smal750 Exactly.
could you please do this with zatanna? people really underestimate her.
It depends on the version of Dr strange. Original Dr strange was crazy powerful. They nerfed him later.
Facts, he was taking on the Living Tribunal if I'm correct.
@Frankie not LivTrib, but he put shame sumagorath(name butchered) and mephisto and dormamu, on a daily basis
Rob doesnt know how to powerscale. Strange is indeed much stronger
@@jojoalcide377 huh?? Dr strange most powerful spells (even some that are that powerful) requires him to invoke certain entities...Dr Fate doesn't have that same limitation bc Nabu is THAT entity.
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Now imagine how strong Dr, Strangefate is as he is a combo of Dr Strange and Dr Fate with a hint of Xavier.
I wish Amalgam continued.
@@RLSmith-jt8qj Indeed, same here. Have though of What If appeared now (well when though of it was during New 52 and All New All Diff Marvel). Or What if Warp World merged with something like DC Eath 32.
I always found the battle between strange and fate as to who's stronger to be a bit off, both have versions that are so ridiculously OP and are probably close to each other in power.
Bro do a reaction and breakdown of the death battle between Fate and Strange, it would be awesome👍😎
Nice vid brother!
Question how would his and scarlet witch’s powers effect each other one’s magic is order based and the other is chaos based?
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That is a fun hypothetical. I’d say it’d come down to which universe they were in. I think of marvel like electro in Spider-Man and like to think chaos magic would work respective to the universe and home team has the advantage lol
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ooooh good question! Personally, i think Scarlet Witch would need a HUGE power boost to even stand in the same room as Nabu (like House of M for example) Nabu's counter-magic could easily break most of what Scarlet Witch can do by simply unraveling the spells with his own will, but from what i understand he can still be overpowered if the enemy caster has a stronger will/power source
Amalgam's Dr. Strangefate was ridiculously op
You should do an episode on Amalgam comics!!!!
I feel like we wouldn’t be having this conversation if they weren’t both doctors. This guy is levels above Strange.
*He's so powerful he knew I was frozen in ice and that's pretty much omniversal level perception!!*
Could Doctor Strange, ever be as powerful as Doctor Fate, like Classic Doctor Strange?
Pre retcon Doctor Strange was easily more powerful
Classic Strange is OP, like Silver Age Superman OP, probably more.
Dr fate beat classic dr strange ! Dr fate nabu Is the God of order ! He Is infinity time more powerfull than any dr strange form ! Dr fate nabu beat the Spectre the DC comics living tribunale , classic dr fate Is Omniversal level being!!
@@kingjames846 Keep thinking that lol 😂
@soled25 No, I don't think so lol. Classic dr strange is a multiversal reality warper
well, DAMN. had no idea he was THIS powerful.
Well after watching this video, we need a Dr. Fate stand alone movie.
A Dr. Fate/Dr. Manhattan book could be really interesting.
I'd say, that depends on which version of Dr. Strange we're talking about. 1970's and 80's strange was damn OP, he was an actual plot device for Marvel comics.
Yep!
The power scaler response videos are gonna go crazy if you release anything with versus in it
I also like Doctor Fate's ability to be like, "I want to be Superman" and he can just do that. Amazing mic drop moment there
Love Doctor fate. For me, I got to experience his awesomeness from Young Justice season 1. I’d seen Justice League Unlimited and later played Injustice 2 but YJ season 1 is what made me love the character.
I wonder what would happen if Constantine got his hands on the helm?
He actually have. He defeated trigon by using helm but got killed.
I’d love to see a ComicsExplained Versus series
Didnt Dr Fate survive crisis on infinite earths? Wasn't he one of the few being's to remain intacts after that event at full power?
The only other being that i believe survived that crisis at full power was darkseid right?
that mask guy too. psyco pirate i think
woah thats bad ass..
Really loved seeing Dr Fate on screen in Black Adam 🙏🏼💯😁
And yet he didn't lift a finger against Dr Manhattan
yea thats a huge missed opportunity really
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Respectfully your wisdom, knowledge and experience but Dr Fate (wholistically) but I noticed reference of long time reference to Dr Fate over the decades/artists/writers, which given the multiverse series of event, can we say that Dr. Fate is all the same capability/person? Maybe limiting it to a universe version might be a better comparison? As if one version of Dr. Fate another versus another universe of Dr. Fate might be a stalemate, if they are all equal. One man's greatness might be another man evilness.
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Seems like you're a couple years too late from when Death Battle did Dr Strange vs Dr Fate.
Would like to see you do a Beyond Omega Level video on Cosmic Fear Garou just based on how powerful he could become if placed in other verses
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Doctor Fate has proven he's more powerful than Doctor Strange. The JSA member has demonstrated his skill is above anything the Avenger can do. DC Comics' Doctor Fate has proven he's more powerful than Marvel's Sorcerer Supreme, Doctor Strange.
ok
I mean in their own universes they’re obviously gonna be more powerful.
And most characters that are like fate and strange are usually always the most powerful ones imo.
How so? They're both equal in power.
To put it simply dr.fate can easily end one's fate and change one's fate by thought.
I would love to see a video of Dr. fate versus Doctor Strange because most of the powers that you mentioned Dr. fate has Doctor Strange at his most powerful can do as well
Yeah but that's the thing u say Dr Strange AT HIS MOST POWERFUL can match Dr Fate...But Dr Fate can simply be in base form alone to match up against the most powerful form of Dr Strange
Dr. Fate vs Dr. Strange sounds like it would be a perfect video for some sort exclusive content you could get from a third party platform for a nominal monthly fee.
Watch death battle
Using Spectre as a gauge is pretty rough since he's always getting owned almost as much Blackbolt. Current Fate v current Strange? Current Fate easy. Classic Fate v classic Strange? Classic Strange easy.
...Wasn't Fate/Nabu and his "siblings" greatly reduced in the JL Dark comic where magic is quite frankly accepted as made up rules and energy from another dimension?
Specter is way beyond blackbolt lol
@@niceandflyy TRUE. & Spectre either gets owned or peaces out every Crisis
Nabu fought unbound spectre after he absorbed all the magic in the universe. battling unbound spectre is no joke his powers are basically limitless.
How classic strange wins? Explain
As a kid I always liked Dr Fate, cool character and I liked the costume.
I say Strange is more powerful. I will say that I'm talking Strange at the height of his power. I'm also picking Strange as the winner, because Strange isn't in conflict with himself like Fate can be. Sometimes Nabu and his host come in conflict, and that alone could cause a loss for him.
Dr fate at the height of he’s power he wins lol
Whatever you just commented doesn't make sense. While it's trur Dr Fate can get rough with his hosts, Most of the time especially in battle he is in control. Remember Dr Strange is a human being borrowing the powers of godlike beings. Dr Fate is a god borrowing a human.
Comics explained has confirmed death battles findings. Now that’s a reliable source!
Doctor Fate is everything Doctor Strange wishes he could be.
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How? They're both equal in power.
@@richardajayi3194 Not even close.
@@alltheworldsastage4785 They are
@@richardajayi3194 Not really.
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Have you read any Manhwa Comics like Solo Leveling, Omniscient Reader, The Beginning After the End, etc.?
If so, what do you think about them?
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First?
Yeah Dr Vs Dr! Bring it on.
Please do more Dr Fate/JSA vids Rob
The most important thing to remember about Fate is that he's basically as strong as the writer needs him to be at any given time. Does the writer need a power house that can hold off even the strongest foe while other stuff happens? Fate can do that. Does the writer need a character to act as the chess master to help put everyone into place so they can overcome seemingly insurmountable odds? Fate can do that too. But, the flip side is also true. Does the writer need a seemingly strong, semi-well known character to job in a fight to make another character look strong? Well.. yeah, Fate can do that.
Fate has been one of the strongest gods of the DC multiverse, and also weak enough for a random mook in Salem to knock off the helmet, and everywhere in between. It all depends on what role the writer needs him to fulfill.
Thank you for the series of videos you did on Doctor Fate. I'm about to watch the death battle between him and Strange now and my prediction is the same as yours
Pierce Brosnan like:"hmm I can see me in this comic movie. What was the second best to god character name again?"😉
I like the character explained being separated from the character powers/greatest feats explained videos.
Dr Fate needs a Movie or Series
Once SpongeBob unlocks the Krabby Patty secret formula he’ll be more powerful than both of them combined.
Depending on your source, the Helmet of Fate is not an artifact of Nabu - it IS Nabu - the form he takes in the Earthly Realm.
Dr. Fate vs Dr. Strange would make an awesome Death Battle! Oh wait ;)
Dr Fate feats are far beyond Strange
This is amazing but could u make a vid of dr fate vs scarlet witch
You should start a vs series where u talk about feats and ur personal opinion on which character is better or stronger
Yea I would love a vs video with both Doctors. I think it'll be an interesting comparison
The guys at Death Battle did strange vs fate and yeah.... Fate's OP. They really get into the numbers and facts as to why.
Yeah it'd be Doctor fate easy for one reason those are HIS powers where as Dr. Strange has to borrow the power from other beings granted these beings giving him a portion of their powers makes him no joke but strange is still a guy asking for the power
Hickman made a cheeky move in Time Runs Out, where he basically had Avengers face a group of heroes from a different universe, who were "Not Justice League due to copyright issues, but totally Justice League". Among them was a magician who relied on relics to draw his magic from (intended to be Dr. Fate). Strange kind of ridiculed him for being a second rate charlatan, who possessed no true magical power of his own, before he pretty much wiped them all out.
Please rob do the video who would win between doctor strange or fate
The Spectre lost his luster a long time ago. For as powerful as he's supposed to be there sure are a lot of beings out there that can match or trump him when the plot requires it.
Definitely frustrating. He's the Galactus of DC
You should do a video discussing the differences in magic between the two universes.
4:36 damn look at dem heavies on Hawkgirl! Lol
Can you make a video explaining all the lords of order and chaos
I would say they are evenly matched as far as their character is in their own respective universes(DC/Marvel). But on the outside looking in Dr. Fate would have an extremely hard time with Dr. Strange because of Dr. Strange ability to absorb and use an adversaries magic against them. If Dr. Strange needs a learning curve to fully know the magic of Dr. Fate then Dr. Fate may have an advantage if it came to these magical juggernauts. Being that both a mystics of magic and have been trained by the ones that came before them I would think they would never be invovled in a voluntary fight. Thanks Rob for an interesting analysis.
I would have to Agree with your Opinion, Dr Fate IS More Powerful. Although, I would Love to see a Movie come out soon, ie. Dr. Fate (who would be the Best actor, hmmm).
You should check out Death Battle channel, they already made Dr. Fate vs Dr. Strange a while ago.
Marvel already shown why Dr Strange is more powerful when Dr Strange faced off against Marvel's version of Dr. Fate and killed him. Dr Strange even narrated in detail to that version of Dr Fate why he was superior before he killed him.
Marvels version of dr fate is dr strange lol 😆 dr strange is a copy of dr fate my dude , dr fate created in 1940s he’s the original he has more history dr strange was created 20 years after him 1960s
@@niceandflyy 🤦🏾 I don't care which sorcerer came first you're trying to change the topic to something it isn't about. Both companies copy each other. Superman is copy of Philip Wylie character which came years before superman and Siegel who created superman read Philip Wylie books so you know be copied him. Clearly you rarely read comics if at all. Arguing with newbies who mostly watch youtube videos and regurgitate what they hear is 🤦🏾 . You tell them facts from the comic they still want to argue. The dude even look like Dr fate smh 🤦🏾 had the exact same powers as Dr fate. Costume like Dr fate. You still want to argue. Dr Strange then proceeds to give point by point differences between them before killing him.
Don't bother responding I'm not reading it.
@@kcopara1 what are you saying lol ? Write properly and it is true Dr fate was created before dr strange just look it up it’s that simple
Rob... we need that Doc Fate/ Doc Strange video.. STOP PLAYIN!! 😡🤣🤣