Where was this woman when I needed her in school, to reach a word count. I’ve never seen anyone as skilled at saying absolutely nothing whilst talking for 13 minutes!
She talks the equivalent of skipping a line when writing a paragraph m! It drags on and on and in! You know you are about the throw everything at the wall to see what sticks when your opening statement in 12 minutes long! 4:30 TS: she says he is the presumption of innocence and he is inno.. & stops then says please remember he has the presumption of innocence b/c she knows he is NOT innocent & can't say it! She NEVER says he IS innocent not once..... also says something like don't just assume or not presume he is innocent just b/c of not liking him or something to that effect but he should of taken that advice then they wouldn't be where they are if he used that principle!
Did you ever not read the assigned book in English Lit but still stood up in class and gave your report about it using broad general statements that meant nothing and led in circles? Yea...this is like that.
Lmao 🤣 I did a speech/report on The Great Pyramids of Egypt in 8th grade; never studied it and what i said in class that day was what I can remember from skimming through references the night before. So embarrassing...but got a C -
This poor defense attorney has to go after one of the best opening statements I've ever heard...to defend someone obviously guilty. I imagine sitting there, listening to the prosecutor's opening statement, thinking about all the evidence, thinking "what. The. F. Why df won't my client take a damned plea, so I don't have to stand up here?! Is he aware that I'm a lawyer, not a wizard?" I do not envy her. (I'm aware that he has the presumption of innocence and I'm open to any and all evidence from this trial. However, I am not a jurist, just some bozo on UA-cam. But also...the evidence is just. So damning!)
@@davidhaney1394 there's no reason not to take it to trial because the sentence for murder in Wisconsin is guaranteed life without parole, so pleaing on it gets you nothing. Best to assert your rights and take it to trial However, any time you see a defense consisting of "Reasonable doubt is a high standard", it's a weak case. Their best move here was probably just to come out swinging on the GF
I agree!! About halfway through the Prosecution's opening I was thinking how does the defense even follow this!! That was an easy to follow story the Prosecutor laid out for the jury. The defense is gonna have their hands full with this one!! I can't wait to see how it all plays out!!
Come on! Just because he happened to go for a stroll in the same spot as they found his father's remains. Pure coincidence. LOL - guilty, guilty, guilty.
Really, this is a perfect example for law students on how screwed you are trying to defend someone as guilty as sin. She constructed together a bunch of sentences with no substance or any information directly related to the case. She’s even comically stated she won’t be doing much cross examinations in a murder case!! Why? Because she can’t and not because she didn’t have too.
she doesn't make any sense because her whole argument is super generalized, she doesn't talk about anything specific and it just makes it look like they have zero evidence to even suggest reasonable doubt.
She could have just said, "Assume innocence. Don't presume. Wait until all evidence is presented. Think critically. Thank you very much." And then just sat down. Lots of words where nothing is really said doesn't help Chandler's case. Hook. (note: you can play this at x2.0 speed and not lose a thing.)
This opening could have been applied to any case; very little reference to the actual case. In a case like this one all the defence can do is make sure the prosecutors adhere to procedure.
I was really hoping she’d present an alternate story, presenting evidence that her client couldn’t have been involved in this. Instead, we get absolutely nothing. She didn’t even try to counter any of the evidence. Such a tragedy. He’s doomed
Mitchell also lost his only sibling. Thankfully, he has a fiance and can create his own family. Will take a long, long time to heal from such an unthinkable, imaginable and untimely loss of both of his parents. They had a lot of living to do. Lives cut too short by an ungrateful monster.
I was interested to watch his defence...but there is none...I guess she is just trying to do her job..13 minutes compared to the prosecution speaks volumes
You notice every time the defense says, "I got no objections" she says it in a ridiculous cheery voice. Like she is trying to project "we got this wrapped my guy is innocent". It drives me crazy.
I just don’t EVER remember wanting or accepting anyone referring to me as “a kid” when I was a 23 year old woman. 23 years old is not a a helpless kid despite his attorneys attempt to present him as one.
Why is no one complaining about the prosecution referring to him as a kid but when the defense does it everyone starts freaking out? I think he's guilty but no one is trying to paint him as a helpless kid, they're simply trying to say that he's normal compared to other males around his age.
I had already served 5 years in the military by the time I was 23. This guy is not a “kid”. Many of my military comrades where only 18 years old and where adult men and woman proud to serve our country. He’s falling asleep during his defense opening statement. His head keeps snapping back.
Opening statements. Prosecution: 1 hour 7 minutes. with visuals, a coherent narrative, painting the defendant a compulsive liar making his (possible) future testimony suspect. Defense: 13 minutes. No visuals, half the time spent talking about herself going to law school. Incoherent ramblings with the speech patter similar to someone on both Molly and Xanax. I already know the outcome of this case, but will continue to watch as this is way better than anything on TV or netflix Edit: around 1:25 ish is the exact moment chandler realizes his defense attorney is completely incompetent and he's going to jail for the rest of his life.
True, but even the world's best defence lawyer would flounder with this clueless, parent-murdering man-child for a client! Be fair - it's a disastrous case to defend. Never ceases to amaze me how even the most blatantly guilty killer will insist they are innocent. This dork will go to his grave claiming he didn't do it, because he'll never be man enough to own his evil acts.
I had to listen after watching the entire case and the amazing prosecutors opening…and honestly, not even the BEST defense attorney could have come up with anything to say to show reasonable doubt 😂!! She tried and I’m sure that pos murderer refused to take a deal and not go to trial, as I’m sure he was told to do!!
If my lawyer started giving dictionary definitions for words like “assumption”…I’d just plead guilty and go willingly to the cell. It’s over by then. Completely over 🤦🏾♀️
Your so right I don’t know why he didn’t this trial. It’s sad the family and friends have to go though this. He’s knows how much evidence they have against him. It’s just unbelievable. RIP krista and Bart.
You know that one person that doesn't do their part for the group project, then has to wing it on the due date? This was painful to listen to. I understand reasonable doubt and burden of proof are important...but they shouldn't be the whole opening argument. He's in trouble
Sometimes, the reasonable doubt argument is all that we have. Sometimes the evidence is overwhelming against our clients. When this happens, we make sure the process is fair, and we repeatedly discuss the State’s burden and the presumption of innocence.
@@lds8137 understandable. You know a great deal more than I do on this topic, for sure. I felt the defense's case was lacking throughout, but this is through a layperson's perspective. Thank you for taking the time to comment on my post.
@@antoniettamartino657 exactly!! Court appointed or not…I can’t see any of the best defense attorneys coming up with some way to show reasonable doubt!! The state proved his guilt in every way imaginable!!
@@antoniettamartino657 let me guess. You have 0 experience defending anyone in a court of law, but you’ve watched a few UA-cam clips plus a few episodes of Law&Order so you know what you’re talking about, right?
Omg- her first words Chandler didn’t murder his parents 🤦♀️ Poor jury now has to sit there along with that poor family and all those affected for days having to relive this again .
How to say I don't have a defense without saying I don't have a defense. I understand her predicament and I would recommend she attend some rapport-building classes ASAP.
The prosecutor spoke for almost an hour and a half, no notes, all facts, all memorized, all laid out perfectly. She spoke for 13 minutes and had to look at her notes the entire time and read from papers, and still gave no actual information on why he’s innocent other than “well, we don’t know what happened”. I almost feel bad for her having to follow up that absolute legendary opening - but still, she gave nothing to sway anyway other than “we don’t really know, now do we?” Well - yes, we do know. We know because of the rockstar attorney who has absolutely as much proof anyone can have without the actual murder being videotaped.
When did the defense attorneys’ job become “get them off” vs. making sure they get a fair trial?!?!?! She sounds like a fool. Make sure he gets a fair trial, that’s your job not BS-ing your way through the trial in hopes to set a murderer FREE. She’s either braindead or conscienceless.
@@differenttakethanmost You misunderstand the role of defense attorneys. Their job isn't to be the ones who give then a fair trial. That job is given to the trial system at large. That's why we have a judge, a jury, a defense attorney, a prosecutor, rules, etc. The defense has an important part to play in that it needs to try and get the defendant of the hook. This is because the idea is that if a jury convicts a man despite the best efforts of a competent defense, then it gives credence to the fairness of the system. The goal of the adversarial legal system is to have each party check the amount of mistruth the other side can bring up.
At around 1:35 when the defense attorney says "... they won't be answered at the end of this trial" you can see the DA's reaction and it's priceless lol.
Well, she hasn't got much to work with really. What can be said when a defendant is so glaringly obviously guilty. String some words together, bore the jury and hopefully they won't notice
How about "You just heard an unbelievable, shocking horror story from the prosecutor! And that's it - unbelievable! My client is devastated. He worked with LE from day 1, got down to the department immediately after their request. Why would he do that if he is guilty?.... He did everything possible to help and find their beloved parents! Remember what my colleague told you? They renovated their house! Some work was done by Bart himself due to money issues. Bart was always tight with the money which caused friction......" Or qui bono? Follow the money, which could be further spun with the above, a loan shark, some alleged shady dealings he accidentally stumbled on due to his work. Or some intruders. Think a bit, there is always at least one good story (mustn't be true!) in every case! That's from the top of my head without any further thoughts! As his attorney I would have at least told a good story to get reasonable doubts! That's always possible! You only need 1 to get him off!!!!! At least give the jury something to think about! That's one step away from doubts and another little one from reasonable doubts!
@@nobletarabas1 if he's your client then I understand your position that you must defend him. Personally, I have never seen a more guilty person in my entire life. Absolutely every arrow just pointed at him. If you followed the money, where did it lead? Why wasn't that brought up at trial? They were renovating their house, not sure what that proves as millions of people renovate their own house (I just built my own stable because ready made ones are too expensive) doesn't mean I'm tight with money, means if I can do it myself cheaper then why not. Even if Bart was tight with money, he was still looking after Chandler, his adult son.. housing him, feeding him etc. Where's the proof of Bart stumbling on shady dealings or loan sharks?. No intruders we're on the security cameras. Most people would be helpful and forthcoming to police to help cover up. If you didn't, I'm sure that would lol more suspicious. How did Christa's phone end up in the house, wrapped in foil in her shoe and put under a shelf, yet a phone call to chandler was made on it after she went misssing? Chandler was in the house pretty much the whole time, how did burnt skeletal remains get into the fireplace? The hidden gun, Bart's torso on the property of his girlfriends family, the tracker showing chandler in the place where parts of his mother were found. That's the bits off the top of my head. How would a loan shark know where to place all this evidence? I get he's your client and I respect your position but the proof of his innocence, (or even any doubt whatsoever) just isn't there. It just isn't. It was a very easy case for the prosecution.
@@Horseymama1 I get your drift and I am all with you! My "task" however was to show how a normal defense lawyer easily could have argued to cast doubts. Yes, I could have thought of every little angle and I would have to come up with a "good story" which can hold a bit. It's possible with time, knowledge of the evidence, circumstances and a bit effort! His defense team did literally *NOTHING* and that is in my book more than negligence!!!! They got money for nothing and should be at least investigated if not be immediately disbarred!!!!
So she’s basically saying to the jurors: you will be presented with tons of evidence but it’s your job to ignore the evidence and look for what’s missing to make your judgment. That is bass ackwards!!! 🤦🏻♀️
I watched this whole trial, day by day, from the start, and then came back to review the defense's opening arguement. Seriously, I wouldn't allow these 2 ladies clean my toilet let alone defend me on murder charges. Give it away girls.
"You're just not going to know how Bart and Krista would have reacted to these lies. That's never going to be explained to you. Why lying turns into murder or HOW lying turns into murder! Be sure to look for what you're not told. Because that's evidence just as much as any evidence." What the... I wonder if she thought, "That sounded better in my head!" LOL
Is this woman one of those attorneys you don’t have to pay for? All I needed was 30 seconds to know how hopeless she is. Also… why does she keep referring to “ when she went to law school “ … almost like she feels she has to let you know she didn’t get her law degree at Walmart.
6:10 Chandler is whining in his head "Where's MY fancy power point?!?! My parents got a fancy power point!" His entire life was him always wanting what everyone else had and never taking any responsibility for his lack thereof. Everyone was out to get him, nothing ever went his way and nothing was ever his fault.
Idk if it's a speech impediment, but the defense keeps missing the L in Chandler's first name. I think saying the name of your defendant correctly would help his case
Somehow gets haLderson, but not chandLer. so weird. I'd feel so defeated in his place, my attorney not knowing my own name (opening statement aside...).
poor lady. She doesn't stand a chance. And at least she's not trying to take us (and the jury) on a magic round about that goes off its rollers ... so many defense attorneys try that and it does nothing to help the case!!
First, my heart breaks for his surviving brother, Mitchell. How does one recover from a sibling murdering and dismembering your parents? Second, 23 years old ins not a “kid”. Third, why/how is it that Chandler arrives to court from prison with an impeccable fresh, perfectly coiffed hair arrangement? Fourth, I hope that his attorney is “appointed”, not private…she is not so good.
Chandler is in jail, not prison. There is a presumption of innocence. He has the right to be present in court and appear before the jury in a presentable way.
I agree, you immediately think of Grant Amato's brother that survived. Both parents, younger brother dead. Other brother in prison for life. Lost 4 family members that day.
Idk if it’s the lazy opening statement, unprofessional appearance, or her inability to catch her breath…but I would be HYSTERICAL if she was my attorney. I’d admit my guilt just to get her to stop talking.
This is why people need to stop telling their children they can be anything they want to be when they grow up. She is a horrible trial attorney. She is boring and bland. She sounds ...like she looks. I'm sorry but it's true.
I dont blame the attorney this is a free paycheck for her. She can't really do anything more then what she did. I cant imagine many attorneys would even take him as a client due to the overwhelming evidence against him. Someones gotta do it haha
Ace prosecutor William Brown gave a superb opening statement over an hour long, with visuals. This hapless defence attorney struggled to perform for around 13 minutes, and only helped Mr Brown confirm her client's guilt! Seems her main strategy to win the jury's sympathy, is to repeatedly refer to her 23-year-old client as 'a kid'. He's a grown man, and not even his pathetic, schoolboy murder cover-up can hide the fact!
Prosecutor’s opening statement : over an hour long, never looks at his notes. Defense’s a mere 13’ and she keeps looking at her notes. For what I don’t know..
Defense attorney seems awkward. Can't blame her really, that prosecutor's opening was stellar. I felt like the case was done and dusted when he finished.
I have ALWAYS wondered what it must be like to be a defense attorney for a suspect that everyone knows is guilty. I have always thought about the peculiarity of the situation, when there is simply no hope for cogency, it’s just so pointless and the defense attorney even being their is just so inane. How strange that must be. And this clip right here, a 13 minute video sums up perfectly what it’s like.
I’ve seen a lot of opening statements. This is definitely the worst I’ve ever seen. I know he’s super guilty and there’s a ton of evidence, but don’t you at least have to try as a defense lawyer? She said nothing.
Is she really trying to use the memories of the victims to try to convince the jurors to not be too judgemental towards their killer??? Omg... It's unbelievable!!!
She's not nervous because she's about to give her opening argument. She's nervous because she's been sitting next to a man who killed his parents and burned their heads in their own fireplace. Jesus.
It might have helped if she could remember her clients name. I've watched less than two minutes of her opening argument, and she called him 'Chander' at least once so far (right before the one minute mark).
They are state paid defence....they have to do the best they can, which is this. They get paid regardless. Chandler will go down the ' my defence was incompetent' route after this for an appeal, mark my words
@@susiefoxy8130 And he would be right!!! Those two sad excuses of attorneys did literally *NOTHING* !!! Nearly no cross examination, this hilarious opening statement, their behavior (no energy, no sign of interest in the case,...) It's a shame!
This lovely woman, this defense attorney knows, WITHOUT A SHADOW OF A DOUBT, that she would move herself and her whole entire family, out of the house that has been passed down for generations, that she now owns AND LOVES, the house where she & her Granny stood in that kitchen, rolled out dough & baked her first-ever, prize-winning, chocolate chip cookies, if the person she's attempting to defend in this video, moved next door. I rest my case.
How can you put a decent defence case together with this ???????? Chandler did not commit murder ??? Let’s see if the jury think he didn’t murder his nice old pops
@@jessworld8662 oh yeh. They’re is that. She reminds me of rola cola as we called cheap nasty supermarket coke when your parents go cheap that weekend to prove the point. All the rola cola went undrank. Cheapness doesn’t get you anywhere. Footballers get off all sorts UK just by paying the big bucks to solicitors. ( our attorneys )
@@frostygal It is not her fault even if he did it. She, as his defence attorney, has to uphold the claims of her client at least until the end of her service.
Oh my goodness, what a contrast between her and the prosecutor. This is a such a simplistic opening statement and she still has to read from her notes. She’s trying to sound passionate, but she has to keep stopping to see what she is supposed to say next.
I’m cracking up listening to this opening I know it’s a very serious situation he is in but this lady is hilarious. I could not sit there and let her continue to represent me in any case, even if I killed my goldfish. I hope not all public defense attorneys work like her. Before the states opening I had no clue about this case, after the states opening it’s hard not to find him guilty. But since she talks about the constitution and all his rights I do believe he will not get a fair trial based on her opening. I could not sit there and let her continue to dig my own grave.
Mcsquared87 What specifically in the defense’s opening statement, is a good example of your comment? Not disagreeing at all, just want to see your perspective.
"This evidence could prove other facts..not necessarily this fact but these other facts, even 6 or 7 other facts.but it might not prove this thing"..........that's good lawyering right there!
She doesn't, she knows all facts are against him. To me, she's just talking just to say something. In chat, someone said she's a public defender, so she's doing what she can.
Omg I'm commenting as I'm Watching, swear I bet he thinks wtf sis I gt myself into with this attorney, she completely disregards the fact that there's a human body part found inside a residence. Common... I bet the bar must of been super easy back in 1990 whatever she said. Wow
Wow, how can she stand there & lie like that…I thought perhaps she’d give a spiel on reasonable doubt etc etc, or take another angle, & just not mention that he was innocent (similar to the defences opening statement in the Joel Guy jr trial back in 2020….he killed & dismembered his parents in similar circumstances), but for her to say this, gives the defence zero credibility
Just a reminder that defence attorneys have to stand for what their client says. Otherwise, having the defendant filing for misrepresentation mid trial will be disruptive to the proceedings.
@@triedtofail exactly. The best thing for her to do for the victims is to be good at her job. It's not her fault that she's been given the worst case ever
@@triedtofail I mean, she's already conceded the lesser charges (Mainly the desecration) despite him pleading not guilty. This is probably already a good ineffective assistance of counsel appeal
Yeah, it was coincidence that Cress seen Barts blue Subaru backed up to the same area where Barts torso would be found the following day and that Chandler was driving the car, I can only imagine the defense attorneys are playing Free Cell on their laptop's during the trial.
Just spent over an hour listening to the prosecutor and couldn’t get enough, I’m literally five minutes in and I don’t think I can hear anymore. I don’t even know what else to say. But, apparently she doesn’t either.
0:45 She won me over with this sentence. She sounds so real and loving and persuasive. She's so convinced and confident. Nothing more needs to be said. Why is the state of Wisconsin harassing this young man?
Where was this woman when I needed her in school, to reach a word count. I’ve never seen anyone as skilled at saying absolutely nothing whilst talking for 13 minutes!
😂😂😂 I thought the same thing lol
😂 Seriously!
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She talks the equivalent of skipping a line when writing a paragraph m! It drags on and on and in!
You know you are about the throw everything at the wall to see what sticks when your opening statement in 12 minutes long!
4:30 TS: she says he is the presumption of innocence and he is inno.. & stops then says please remember he has the presumption of innocence b/c she knows he is NOT innocent & can't say it! She NEVER says he IS innocent not once..... also says something like don't just assume or not presume he is innocent just b/c of not liking him or something to that effect but he should of taken that advice then they wouldn't be where they are if he used that principle!
She uses 12.5 font but in speech
Defense opening argument was that:
1. There is a lot of evidence against Chandler.
2. Don’t look at that evidence.
😂😂😂😂😂😂
I know I shouldn’t, but I have been CTFU throughout this whole comment section 😂
Lmao!!
Rofl
Actually it’s CHANDER Halderson. 23 years old. Young man. Lives in that Halderson’s. Home.
Did you ever not read the assigned book in English Lit but still stood up in class and gave your report about it using broad general statements that meant nothing and led in circles? Yea...this is like that.
Haha totally!
Definitely!
Lmao 🤣 I did a speech/report on The Great Pyramids of Egypt in 8th grade; never studied it and what i said in class that day was what I can remember from skimming through references the night before. So embarrassing...but got a C -
Lol. Perfect comparison
😂😂 Ya, it really is!! OMG!!!
This poor defense attorney has to go after one of the best opening statements I've ever heard...to defend someone obviously guilty. I imagine sitting there, listening to the prosecutor's opening statement, thinking about all the evidence, thinking "what. The. F. Why df won't my client take a damned plea, so I don't have to stand up here?! Is he aware that I'm a lawyer, not a wizard?" I do not envy her.
(I'm aware that he has the presumption of innocence and I'm open to any and all evidence from this trial. However, I am not a jurist, just some bozo on UA-cam. But also...the evidence is just. So damning!)
@@davidhaney1394 there's no reason not to take it to trial because the sentence for murder in Wisconsin is guaranteed life without parole, so pleaing on it gets you nothing. Best to assert your rights and take it to trial
However, any time you see a defense consisting of "Reasonable doubt is a high standard", it's a weak case. Their best move here was probably just to come out swinging on the GF
I agree!! About halfway through the Prosecution's opening I was thinking how does the defense even follow this!! That was an easy to follow story the Prosecutor laid out for the jury. The defense is gonna have their hands full with this one!! I can't wait to see how it all plays out!!
Come on! Just because he happened to go for a stroll in the same spot as they found his father's remains. Pure coincidence. LOL - guilty, guilty, guilty.
The real bozo is the public defender.
I was thinking someone would just shout 'get on with the sentencing already!' with all that damning evidence.
What a hard job this woman has. Defending the indefensible. Trying to make a grown, disturbed man into “just a normal kid” is ludicrous
Even OJ is more innocent than this guy.
@Marty McFly 🏅Comment of the year award! 👆🏼🤣
@Marty - hilarious comment
Lol!
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Really, this is a perfect example for law students on how screwed you are trying to defend someone as guilty as sin. She constructed together a bunch of sentences with no substance or any information directly related to the case.
She’s even comically stated she won’t be doing much cross examinations in a murder case!! Why? Because she can’t and not because she didn’t have too.
*...many cross examinations *...didn't have to
@@January. Relax, please!
@@ivannio8519 Rather than giving me advice, you should be spending your time improving your sorely lacking English skills.
she doesn't make any sense because her whole argument is super generalized, she doesn't talk about anything specific and it just makes it look like they have zero evidence to even suggest reasonable doubt.
She has to work with what she has unfortunately. It’s her duty and her personal feelings has nothing to do with the task at hand.
She could have just said, "Assume innocence. Don't presume. Wait until all evidence is presented. Think critically. Thank you very much." And then just sat down. Lots of words where nothing is really said doesn't help Chandler's case. Hook. (note: you can play this at x2.0 speed and not lose a thing.)
Kinky. Eloquently & brilliantly said! 👏👏👏
This opening could have been applied to any case; very little reference to the actual case. In a case like this one all the defence can do is make sure the prosecutors adhere to procedure.
I was really hoping she’d present an alternate story, presenting evidence that her client couldn’t have been involved in this. Instead, we get absolutely nothing. She didn’t even try to counter any of the evidence. Such a tragedy. He’s doomed
Mitchell also lost his only sibling. Thankfully, he has a fiance and can create his own family. Will take a long, long time to heal from such an unthinkable, imaginable and untimely loss of both of his parents. They had a lot of living to do. Lives cut too short by an ungrateful monster.
Chandler is more doomed here than all the male vacationers on the Titanic.
*Diane Shatto* Yes, thank goodness he's doomed 👍🏻
I was interested to watch his defence...but there is none...I guess she is just trying to do her job..13 minutes compared to the prosecution speaks volumes
You notice every time the defense says, "I got no objections" she says it in a ridiculous cheery voice. Like she is trying to project "we got this wrapped my guy is innocent". It drives me crazy.
I just don’t EVER remember wanting or accepting anyone referring to me as “a kid” when I was a 23 year old woman. 23 years old is not a a helpless kid despite his attorneys attempt to present him as one.
Why is no one complaining about the prosecution referring to him as a kid but when the defense does it everyone starts freaking out? I think he's guilty but no one is trying to paint him as a helpless kid, they're simply trying to say that he's normal compared to other males around his age.
I had already served 5 years in the military by the time I was 23. This guy is not a “kid”. Many of my military comrades where only 18 years old and where adult men and woman proud to serve our country. He’s falling asleep during his defense opening statement. His head keeps snapping back.
Nowadays, that's not a kid, that's a child.
Yeah but he seems to think of himself as a kid; a little kid at that. It's part of his whole schtick and it worked for him for a long time! Lolol 😃
Well he DOES play video games and play with his dogs soooo ... lol
Opening statements.
Prosecution: 1 hour 7 minutes. with visuals, a coherent narrative, painting the defendant a compulsive liar making his (possible) future testimony suspect.
Defense: 13 minutes. No visuals, half the time spent talking about herself going to law school. Incoherent ramblings with the speech patter similar to someone on both Molly and Xanax.
I already know the outcome of this case, but will continue to watch as this is way better than anything on TV or netflix
Edit: around 1:25 ish is the exact moment chandler realizes his defense attorney is completely incompetent and he's going to jail for the rest of his life.
Hit the nail on the head!!
Lol I call it. He’s going to hang it up before getting to prison.. he can’t handle life without
This is serious, but the comments are soooo funny. Talk about revenge from beyond the grave... This defense attorney is really bad.
Exactly well said!!
True, but even the world's best defence lawyer would flounder with this clueless, parent-murdering man-child for a client! Be fair - it's a disastrous case to defend. Never ceases to amaze me how even the most blatantly guilty killer will insist they are innocent. This dork will go to his grave claiming he didn't do it, because he'll never be man enough to own his evil acts.
Thank you to all the comments. It saved me time from listening to her. I quit after about 2 minutes in. BUT the Prosecutor was AWESOME in his opening.
Ditto...she was too painful to watch. I'm certain she wasn't the top of her class.
To be fair, prosecutors job was pretty easy considering the overwhelming amount of evidence he has.
@@zoots15 true, but the quality of his presentation was A+.
I had to listen after watching the entire case and the amazing prosecutors opening…and honestly, not even the BEST defense attorney could have come up with anything to say to show reasonable doubt 😂!! She tried and I’m sure that pos murderer refused to take a deal and not go to trial, as I’m sure he was told to do!!
She's so horrible it's pretty entertaining. I know that sounds horrible considering the case but both of his attorneys did a shockingly horrible job.
If my lawyer started giving dictionary definitions for words like “assumption”…I’d just plead guilty and go willingly to the cell. It’s over by then. Completely over 🤦🏾♀️
Your so right I don’t know why he didn’t this trial. It’s sad the family and friends have to go though this. He’s knows how much evidence they have against him. It’s just unbelievable. RIP krista and Bart.
Poor woman had the task of threading a needle with boxing gloves on whilst blind folded! 😂😂
Defence counsel: “The role of being a juror is different than being a person”.
Glad I’m not the only one that was like “wait, wtf?!” What a great start there. Then let’s talk about ourselves.
😂😂😂 I just can’t
You know that one person that doesn't do their part for the group project, then has to wing it on the due date? This was painful to listen to. I understand reasonable doubt and burden of proof are important...but they shouldn't be the whole opening argument. He's in trouble
Sometimes, the reasonable doubt argument is all that we have. Sometimes the evidence is overwhelming against our clients. When this happens, we make sure the process is fair, and we repeatedly discuss the State’s burden and the presumption of innocence.
@@lds8137 understandable. You know a great deal more than I do on this topic, for sure. I felt the defense's case was lacking throughout, but this is through a layperson's perspective.
Thank you for taking the time to comment on my post.
that was the whole Interrogation him just winging a made up story!!
This attorney is a prime example of you get what you pay for.
I sure they are court-appointed public defenders.....
This attorney sucks, but not much you can do when the case is straight forward, Chaz killed his parents
@@antoniettamartino657 exactly!! Court appointed or not…I can’t see any of the best defense attorneys coming up with some way to show reasonable doubt!! The state proved his guilt in every way imaginable!!
In this instance...... *NOTHING*
@@antoniettamartino657 let me guess. You have 0 experience defending anyone in a court of law, but you’ve watched a few UA-cam clips plus a few episodes of Law&Order so you know what you’re talking about, right?
Omg- her first words
Chandler didn’t murder his parents 🤦♀️
Poor jury now has to sit there along with that poor family and all those affected for days having to relive this again .
I just wonder why oh why he let this go to trial. This should not have happened. I wonder if his lawyers tried to talk him out of this
What is she even saying 😳
How to say I don't have a defense without saying I don't have a defense. I understand her predicament and I would recommend she attend some rapport-building classes ASAP.
Totally agree.
The prosecutor spoke for almost an hour and a half, no notes, all facts, all memorized, all laid out perfectly.
She spoke for 13 minutes and had to look at her notes the entire time and read from papers, and still gave no actual information on why he’s innocent other than “well, we don’t know what happened”. I almost feel bad for her having to follow up that absolute legendary opening - but still, she gave nothing to sway anyway other than “we don’t really know, now do we?”
Well - yes, we do know. We know because of the rockstar attorney who has absolutely as much proof anyone can have without the actual murder being videotaped.
and even if it had been videotaped , the defense would say "it wasnt chandler in the video"....but thats their job.
When did the defense attorneys’ job become “get them off” vs. making sure they get a fair trial?!?!?!
She sounds like a fool. Make sure he gets a fair trial, that’s your job not BS-ing your way through the trial in hopes to set a murderer FREE. She’s either braindead or conscienceless.
@@differenttakethanmost well said !!
@@differenttakethanmost You misunderstand the role of defense attorneys. Their job isn't to be the ones who give then a fair trial. That job is given to the trial system at large. That's why we have a judge, a jury, a defense attorney, a prosecutor, rules, etc. The defense has an important part to play in that it needs to try and get the defendant of the hook. This is because the idea is that if a jury convicts a man despite the best efforts of a competent defense, then it gives credence to the fairness of the system. The goal of the adversarial legal system is to have each party check the amount of mistruth the other side can bring up.
yes but he was a man and she is a woman
You know it's bad news when it makes you bust out laughing, as soon as the defense begins the first sentence of their opening statement.
At around 1:35 when the defense attorney says "... they won't be answered at the end of this trial" you can see the DA's reaction and it's priceless lol.
Good catch. The eyebrows. Painful to him, I suspect, as he gave the most articulate, elegant opening statement I've ever heard.
Those poor defense attorneys dont have a chance.
She really took one for the team. Did the best with what she had to work with!
She basically said: We the defendant couldn't find any holes in the prosecutor's story, but it's still important you do. And it is.
Well, she hasn't got much to work with really. What can be said when a defendant is so glaringly obviously guilty. String some words together, bore the jury and hopefully they won't notice
How about "You just heard an unbelievable, shocking horror story from the prosecutor! And that's it - unbelievable!
My client is devastated. He worked with LE from day 1, got down to the department immediately after their request. Why would he do that if he is guilty?.... He did everything possible to help and find their beloved parents!
Remember what my colleague told you? They renovated their house! Some work was done by Bart himself due to money issues. Bart was always tight with the money which caused friction......"
Or qui bono? Follow the money, which could be further spun with the above, a loan shark, some alleged shady dealings he accidentally stumbled on due to his work. Or some intruders. Think a bit, there is always at least one good story (mustn't be true!) in every case!
That's from the top of my head without any further thoughts! As his attorney I would have at least told a good story to get reasonable doubts! That's always possible! You only need 1 to get him off!!!!!
At least give the jury something to think about! That's one step away from doubts and another little one from reasonable doubts!
@@nobletarabas1 if he's your client then I understand your position that you must defend him. Personally, I have never seen a more guilty person in my entire life. Absolutely every arrow just pointed at him. If you followed the money, where did it lead? Why wasn't that brought up at trial?
They were renovating their house, not sure what that proves as millions of people renovate their own house (I just built my own stable because ready made ones are too expensive) doesn't mean I'm tight with money, means if I can do it myself cheaper then why not. Even if Bart was tight with money, he was still looking after Chandler, his adult son.. housing him, feeding him etc.
Where's the proof of Bart stumbling on shady dealings or loan sharks?. No intruders we're on the security cameras.
Most people would be helpful and forthcoming to police to help cover up. If you didn't, I'm sure that would lol more suspicious.
How did Christa's phone end up in the house, wrapped in foil in her shoe and put under a shelf, yet a phone call to chandler was made on it after she went misssing?
Chandler was in the house pretty much the whole time, how did burnt skeletal remains get into the fireplace? The hidden gun, Bart's torso on the property of his girlfriends family, the tracker showing chandler in the place where parts of his mother were found. That's the bits off the top of my head.
How would a loan shark know where to place all this evidence?
I get he's your client and I respect your position but the proof of his innocence, (or even any doubt whatsoever) just isn't there. It just isn't. It was a very easy case for the prosecution.
@@Horseymama1 I get your drift and I am all with you!
My "task" however was to show how a normal defense lawyer easily could have argued to cast doubts. Yes, I could have thought of every little angle and I would have to come up with a "good story" which can hold a bit. It's possible with time, knowledge of the evidence, circumstances and a bit effort!
His defense team did literally *NOTHING* and that is in my book more than negligence!!!!
They got money for nothing and should be at least investigated if not be immediately disbarred!!!!
So she’s basically saying to the jurors: you will be presented with tons of evidence but it’s your job to ignore the evidence and look for what’s missing to make your judgment. That is bass ackwards!!! 🤦🏻♀️
I watched this whole trial, day by day, from the start, and then came back to review the defense's opening arguement. Seriously, I wouldn't allow these 2 ladies clean my toilet let alone defend me on murder charges. Give it away girls.
"You're just not going to know how Bart and Krista would have reacted to these lies. That's never going to be explained to you. Why lying turns into murder or HOW lying turns into murder! Be sure to look for what you're not told. Because that's evidence just as much as any evidence." What the... I wonder if she thought, "That sounded better in my head!" LOL
When she said, “Chandler Halderson did not murder his parents,” I literally snickered. Yeah RIGHT!
How embarrassing. Pan to Chander, & he must be thinking, “Just sentence me already”
😂
Is this woman one of those attorneys you don’t have to pay for? All I needed was 30 seconds to know how hopeless she is. Also… why does she keep referring to “ when she went to law school “ … almost like she feels she has to let you know she didn’t get her law degree at Walmart.
I have zero words for this opening statement. Way to fumble the ball 😬😬😬 can’t defend a monster though
When defending a case as reprehensible as this one it's probably best to say the bare minimum.
LOL - you must only convict when it is proven...or if it is proven but it won't be. Poor woman - hard job pushing water uphill.
Lol... she's telling the jury just use your imagination.
6:10 Chandler is whining in his head "Where's MY fancy power point?!?! My parents got a fancy power point!" His entire life was him always wanting what everyone else had and never taking any responsibility for his lack thereof. Everyone was out to get him, nothing ever went his way and nothing was ever his fault.
My parents got a fancy PowerPoint 😂🤣😂
Poor kid 😢🤦♀️
Idk if it's a speech impediment, but the defense keeps missing the L in Chandler's first name. I think saying the name of your defendant correctly would help his case
Somehow gets haLderson, but not chandLer. so weird. I'd feel so defeated in his place, my attorney not knowing my own name (opening statement aside...).
I noticed that too!
This wreaks of appeal!
There's little she can do to help his case besides miracles...
I noticed this too
I just started laughing and asking myself what she was talking about after hearing the prosecutors opening statement.
poor lady. She doesn't stand a chance. And at least she's not trying to take us (and the jury) on a magic round about that goes off its rollers ... so many defense attorneys try that and it does nothing to help the case!!
First, my heart breaks for his surviving brother, Mitchell. How does one recover from a sibling murdering and dismembering your parents? Second, 23 years old ins not a “kid”. Third, why/how is it that Chandler arrives to court from prison with an impeccable fresh, perfectly coiffed hair arrangement? Fourth, I hope that his attorney is “appointed”, not private…she is not so good.
Chandler is in jail, not prison. There is a presumption of innocence. He has the right to be present in court and appear before the jury in a presentable way.
I agree, you immediately think of Grant Amato's brother that survived. Both parents, younger brother dead. Other brother in prison for life. Lost 4 family members that day.
She is a public defender, and a horrible one to boot
He's a Grown man.
@@thedreamer7240 and?
Idk if it’s the lazy opening statement, unprofessional appearance, or her inability to catch her breath…but I would be HYSTERICAL if she was my attorney. I’d admit my guilt just to get her to stop talking.
Hehehe!! Too true!
This is why people need to stop telling their children they can be anything they want to be when they grow up. She is a horrible trial attorney. She is boring and bland. She sounds ...like she looks. I'm sorry but it's true.
Lol! In her defence this is a tough one!
2 people died. It was intentional
I dont blame the attorney this is a free paycheck for her. She can't really do anything more then what she did. I cant imagine many attorneys would even take him as a client due to the overwhelming evidence against him. Someones gotta do it haha
I'm getting second hand embarrassment here.
Ace prosecutor William Brown gave a superb opening statement over an hour long, with visuals. This hapless defence attorney struggled to perform for around 13 minutes, and only helped Mr Brown confirm her client's guilt!
Seems her main strategy to win the jury's sympathy, is to repeatedly refer to her 23-year-old client as 'a kid'. He's a grown man, and not even his pathetic, schoolboy murder cover-up can hide the fact!
It's worse than that. Right before the one-minute mark she mispronounces her clients name. She couldn't even get THAT fact right.
@@Ocrilat Another Elaiiiinnnneeee 🤦🏻♂️🙊🙈🤭😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
@@nobletarabas1 LOL!
Prosecutor’s opening statement : over an hour long, never looks at his notes.
Defense’s a mere 13’ and she keeps looking at her notes. For what I don’t know..
The length of the two is laughable.
Must be reading note she wrote to herself:
JESUS TAKE THE WHEEL
She’s checking her pictures
@@deeb8733 😂🤣😂🚗💨
@@deeb8733 😂😂😂
Defense attorney seems awkward. Can't blame her really, that prosecutor's opening was stellar. I felt like the case was done and dusted when he finished.
I have ALWAYS wondered what it must be like to be a defense attorney for a suspect that everyone knows is guilty. I have always thought about the peculiarity of the situation, when there is simply no hope for cogency, it’s just so pointless and the defense attorney even being their is just so inane. How strange that must be. And this clip right here, a 13 minute video sums up perfectly what it’s like.
Pretend dear jurors, this pos is a cupcake with sprinkles
Oh god I couldn’t imagine being in her shoes 😂 bless her
Do they have a class in law school for defense attorneys? When a client is 💯 guilty but your profession forces you to “defend” anyway…
7 minutes in, and this feels longer than the hour long prosecution...
Defense doesn’t seem nearly as prepared as the prosecution!
Absolutely right, these two statements were like night and day in their quality.
She can’t even pronounce his name correctly “Chander” 😬
I’ve seen a lot of opening statements. This is definitely the worst I’ve ever seen. I know he’s super guilty and there’s a ton of evidence, but don’t you at least have to try as a defense lawyer? She said nothing.
Is she really trying to use the memories of the victims to try to convince the jurors to not be too judgemental towards their killer??? Omg... It's unbelievable!!!
How really can she keep a straight face ?
This is just some word salad drizzled and dressed with guilt! Poor lady didn’t stand a chance after the prosecution did their amazing performance!
She's not nervous because she's about to give her opening argument.
She's nervous because she's been sitting next to a man who killed his parents and burned their heads in their own fireplace.
Jesus.
It might have helped if she could remember her clients name. I've watched less than two minutes of her opening argument, and she called him 'Chander' at least once so far (right before the one minute mark).
I have been following the trial for the last 3 days, I just don't understand how this attorney and the defendant think he'll be found innocent.
They honestly don’t but he is entitled to a defense regardless of the overwhelming evidence against him.
They are state paid defence....they have to do the best they can, which is this. They get paid regardless. Chandler will go down the ' my defence was incompetent' route after this for an appeal, mark my words
@@susiefoxy8130 And he would be right!!! Those two sad excuses of attorneys did literally *NOTHING* !!!
Nearly no cross examination, this hilarious opening statement, their behavior (no energy, no sign of interest in the case,...) It's a shame!
This lovely woman, this defense attorney knows, WITHOUT A SHADOW OF A DOUBT, that she would move herself and her whole entire family, out of the house that has been passed down for generations, that she now owns AND LOVES, the house where she & her Granny stood in that kitchen, rolled out dough & baked her first-ever, prize-winning, chocolate chip cookies, if the person she's attempting to defend in this video, moved next door.
I rest my case.
Lol
Brilliant 😃
How can you put a decent defence case together with this ???????? Chandler did not commit murder ??? Let’s see if the jury think he didn’t murder his nice old pops
Oh my gosh he is so guilty!! All evidence points to him. This lady is crazy 😜
She either sucks or she's trying to help the other side lol
@@jessworld8662 oh yeh. They’re is that. She reminds me of rola cola as we called cheap nasty supermarket coke when your parents go cheap that weekend to prove the point. All the rola cola went undrank. Cheapness doesn’t get you anywhere. Footballers get off all sorts UK just by paying the big bucks to solicitors. ( our attorneys )
@@frostygal It is not her fault even if he did it. She, as his defence attorney, has to uphold the claims of her client at least until the end of her service.
@@triedtofail oh I know your right…just was hard to watch 😬
Oh my goodness, what a contrast between her and the prosecutor. This is a such a simplistic opening statement and she still has to read from her notes. She’s trying to sound passionate, but she has to keep stopping to see what she is supposed to say next.
I’m cracking up listening to this opening I know it’s a very serious situation he is in but this lady is hilarious. I could not sit there and let her continue to represent me in any case, even if I killed my goldfish. I hope not all public defense attorneys work like her. Before the states opening I had no clue about this case, after the states opening it’s hard not to find him guilty. But since she talks about the constitution and all his rights I do believe he will not get a fair trial based on her opening. I could not sit there and let her continue to dig my own grave.
Mcsquared87 What specifically in the defense’s opening statement, is a good example of your comment? Not disagreeing at all, just want to see your perspective.
She sounded like she is teaching 2nd Graders how to do an addition.
What else is she meant to say? It’s clear as day that the defendant is guilty so it’s hard for her to strongly defend him
January 6th insurrection Lawyer here.. Let her do her job - Simply ignore the facts, and what ebidnce do you haves?
She’s so bad that I’m afraid even if you were innocent of killing Your goldfish she’d have you convicted!! 😂
it's chandler.. not chander... defense attorney doesn't even know her client's name!
Omg this lady lawyer? Is for real?
Jesus Christ
She takes the award for the most ridicules opening statement
How did she become a lawyer? This whole speech had nothing to do with her client because she knows he is guilty. She never had a chance
"This evidence could prove other facts..not necessarily this fact but these other facts, even 6 or 7 other facts.but it might not prove this thing"..........that's good lawyering right there!
“We will never know how or why lying turns into murder”.:.ummmm I thought YOU said he DIDN’T murder them?!?!
This is crazy. How does she think the jury will buy this?
She doesn't, she knows all facts are against him. To me, she's just talking just to say something. In chat, someone said she's a public defender, so she's doing what she can.
She is not saying anything to defend anything. She has to do something to get paid.
Omg I'm commenting as I'm Watching, swear I bet he thinks wtf sis I gt myself into with this attorney, she completely disregards the fact that there's a human body part found inside a residence. Common... I bet the bar must of been super easy back in 1990 whatever she said. Wow
She just needs to handle parking ticket cases😳
If anything!!!!!!
O.m.g. I have never seen or heard a worse inept defence opening. Statements they would of been better to just skip it. Wow. Wow. Wow.
this guy is screwed.
They should have gone with the "Chewbacca Defense" in a this trial.
Let’s get this straight as she said” I left law school knowing…..I’d have to spend my career defending murderers”.
His lawyer’s opening statement is an insult to the minds of each and every juror.
The defense attorney had literally no chance after the prosecutor’s opening statement.
probably the worst defence possible
Defense did a 13 min opening whereas prosecution did an hour longer? That’s never a good sign lol
Do they have online law degrees in Wisconsin😳
This sounds like the defense was trying to meet the word count requirement
I wonder if she is so bad and poor in his defense that is going to be possible to request do this trial again.
The Lawyer You Know did an amazing breakdown and analysis of her opening I highly recommend it.
Maybe her heart isn't in this because her client and the evidence sucks for the defense. I can't believe she needs notes to get up there and babble.
She doesn't have an enviable task. I appreciate her gumption🌞
I'm sold. He clearly didn't do it
Facts. Laws. And logic :D
Wow, how can she stand there & lie like that…I thought perhaps she’d give a spiel on reasonable doubt etc etc, or take another angle, & just not mention that he was innocent (similar to the defences opening statement in the Joel Guy jr trial back in 2020….he killed & dismembered his parents in similar circumstances), but for her to say this, gives the defence zero credibility
Just a reminder that defence attorneys have to stand for what their client says. Otherwise, having the defendant filing for misrepresentation mid trial will be disruptive to the proceedings.
@@triedtofail exactly. The best thing for her to do for the victims is to be good at her job. It's not her fault that she's been given the worst case ever
@@triedtofail I mean, she's already conceded the lesser charges (Mainly the desecration) despite him pleading not guilty. This is probably already a good ineffective assistance of counsel appeal
Yeah, it was coincidence that Cress seen Barts blue Subaru backed up to the same area where Barts torso would be found the following day and that Chandler was driving the car, I can only imagine the defense attorneys are playing Free Cell on their laptop's during the trial.
This is one of the worst opening statements I have heard.
“The evidence will show you there’s a gap in the evidence “ ……. Tell me your clients guilty with out telling me your clients guilty
Just spent over an hour listening to the prosecutor and couldn’t get enough, I’m literally five minutes in and I don’t think I can hear anymore.
I don’t even know what else to say. But, apparently she doesn’t either.
SAME. I aborted after five minutes and headed for the comments section.
This has to be one of the worst opening arguments I have ever heard…
"Evidence of one thing is not necessarily evidence of another thing." Genius.
This woman had no argument to make, the Prosecutor ate it all.
This poor women has no hope in this case
Wow, that was an embarrassing demonstration of offering a defense opening statement.
You could even see it in Chandler’s eyes… sh!t, I’m screwed!
0:45 She won me over with this sentence. She sounds so real and loving and persuasive. She's so convinced and confident. Nothing more needs to be said. Why is the state of Wisconsin harassing this young man?
Please tell me this is sarcasm lmao
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Exactly there's no evidence he did it they have obvious bias against him..
She couldn't even be bothered to make a "fancy Powerpoint" for him.. so sad..
He needs a new attorney
I honestly didn't expect that. I thought they would just say he was abused to save him
The worst defense opening EVER!